Jordan Peterson - The Tragic Story of the Man-Child

[@garrettkeith1959]

"A man who procrastinates in his choosing will have his choice made for him by circumstance" -Hunter S. Thompson

[@RantTherapist]

How many cocaine a day did that guy inject? Nevertheless he was a genius of his own terms. I'm just starting to read his hells angels book. About 20 pages in.

[@PhatInAHat]

That's not entirely a bad thing, to some extent - by all means narrow down your choices to what you are most interested in, but it can also be beneficial to consider circumstance along the way as you may have a number of choices which could be equally attractive to you, but external circumstances might tell you that one of those choices open to you might prove the most advantageous to you in the long-term.

[@geraltblaviken6127]

Garrett Keith The illusion of thinking that you have freedom of choice plays a major part in the process of self development and created this paradoxical absurdity

[@PhatInAHat]

What exactly do you mean by your post? I agree with what you say about there being an "illusion of thinking that you have freedom of choice", but how does this relate to the process of self development?! Would you say that the recognition that freedom of choice is an illusion actually helps one on the path to self development?!

[@geraltblaviken6127]

PHat in a hat I mean that the process of self development is indoctrinated by the educational system, for the sole purpose of social engineering. The whole process is predetermined and most people are unaware,thus the illusion

[@gabrielmaddern6070]

"You can be an idiot at 25" >Turns 26 > Sweating intensifies

[@blackcitadel37]

Same

[@theelderelk5582]

Same

[@sweetchocolate123z]

Same !

[@gabrielmaddern6070]

27 now

[@sweetchocolate123z]

@@gabrielmaddern6070 how is it going man?

[@Scuba-Steven]

"When you're 25 you can be an idiot" As a 24 year old, this was nice to hear.

[@chasem1032]

Same I’m about to turn 24 this month lol

[@Scuba-Steven]

We got this boys. I'm gonna try to exercise more, I think I've been under estimating it.

[@SovereignStatesman]

Justin: He just wants you to go to college, to pay the salary of idiots like HIM. He's not a STEM professor. He makes his money on STEM students who are forced to take extracurriculars to get a degree.

[@loveandsqualor6034]

YOUR COMMENT SUGGESTS YOUR IDIOCY IS ETERNAL..

[@carloregalado7751]

Let's clean or room together. we can do this boys!

[@danielcook1271]

I am the 30 year old man child and it's terrifying and soul destroying. Don't let it happen to you. What he says is true.

[@lizzychrome7630]

You still have time to turn your life around and become Iron Man.

[@tylerdurden7057]

Hey man how are you... I can relate with you!

[@Meleeman011]

Lol I've seen the otherside of that coin, and it's not much better.

[@MikeKaz02]

@@Zerozerozero0x0x0 The 30 year old man child is the person that can’t defend himself in the real world, because he has everything handed to him, still lives with his parents and is scared to accept the responsibility of life struggles they must endure. I’m still in that stage but I’m trying to get through it and put more responsibilities on myself, stop blaming the world for my problems, and fix them myself, learn new things and reach for goals that will sustain my existence across time instead of sit there at 30 at my parents house playing video games all day, doing nothing, and making a shitty 16 an hour for all of my life. I started to go to school, got promoted, starting taking responsibility, and stopped whining…well like a child about how everyone is doing better than me and it not being fair. Getting out of that man child mindset is crippling. However it’s mostly an attitude change that needs to be implemented into the person’s life. That’s how I see it.

[@psychostranger2097]

I am 37 years old man child.

[@Demention94]

"They rob your future self while allowing you to pretend you have an identity" That is one of the most accurate critisisms of Universities I have heard.

[@erice.stewart3020]

Demention94 You can't deny, no one who's sane or in their right mind can deny there's an agenda at play nationwide, and some say worldwide to halt the maturation process of young adults and keep them permanently and developmentally stunted. When I went to university I was surprised to find that there was nowhere to go, or everything around me was a 'Pleasure Island' as he said. Contrary to popular belief, this horrified me because I came in with a drive wanting to be successful - Immediately I felt the danger there that there was no support for development or molding young minds into a normal and healthy adults. Obviously this felt horrible, and I was already 25 due to working, and some other personal issues. A lot of which by partly stemmed from the malevolent, sick society that we now live in. People still don't believe it, and call you "conspiracy theorist". I guess I wear that as a badge of honor. I went to one of the biggest liberal arts schools on the east coast, but I was there for a science degree which I completed. Like many of you I had no idea what I was walking into. I didn't even know what a liberal arts school was about, but just went there for the program. But, I didn't come out of that place the same. There was zero, absolutely zero support for maturation there. Which I at the time thought very extremely strange considering it was a, University. That was the biggest mistake of my life - In retrospect. I should be packed up and gone somewhere else immediately, but didn't and I ended up choosing to drink the kool aid after a while. Life is tragic, and fuck them, for doing everything they can to destroy our lives and every chance we have at living them, by foisting on us an endless state of arrested development, corruption and endless...degeneracy/lack of ethics. Thank God for Jordan Peterson. I'm 31 years old have 2 degrees in Science and am more or less..jobless. I was swayed away from the path of my life by corruption, and important developmental guidemarkers which simply were not there in the environment -but plenty of corruption was -when I needed them. That's that and not without great difficulty and delay later on it will happen. I was let down, along with millions of other college educated young people, expecting something positive and hopeful from this country and once again - eating shit. We should have done something about this long ago. Hell, this country is going to hell so fast. Stay strong and cling to yourself. That's all you can do, everything else has let us all down it seems. It's up to us now, for our everything. Don't expect the luxury of society providing the framework.

[@erice.stewart3020]

It's true. Communists and Marxists have hijacked the country. All that they say, The State, are lies on top of lies. I'm surprised they don't shut down Jordan Peterson for being a beacon of light and telling the truth.

[@bmack1708]

You might not be aware of it, but Google tried to remove him from all their platforms just last week. Luckily for us, he's now known enough that lots of people were talking about it and he got his accounts back a couple days later. But, sadly, it's pretty much only a matter of time before someone use the very vague hate speech canadian laws to shut him up for the duration (easily 3-4 years) of a trial that will go nowhere.

[@Cirris]

The kids today aren't the lost boys, they're the LARPing Commies.

[@seeingeyegod]

Pretty damn true except for the exceptional students who actually know specifically what they want to go to University for. I never wanted to go to an Ivy League college, even though I could have gotten in, and I could have gotten my parents to pay for it. It seemed like it would have been a massive waste of money and that I'd be pretending to be something I wasn't. I guess I knew I was a slacker and knew I'd disappoint them. I saved them a lot of money by going to State schools.

[@cotegt]

"Procrastination is the thief of dreams." - Native American Proverb

[@Stoic1976]

g0neplatinum NA had a completely different way of life. I don’t think dreams of becoming something greater than everything else would have even been comprehended.

[@GinHindew110]

maybe it means you should be sleeping instead of procastinating? cause you know, you will be dreaming

[@MrJackal43]

g0neplatinum hahaha. That be true if Native Americans had written history, you fn dolt.

[@AlexKS1992]

@@MrJackal43 Ever heard of the Mayans or Aztecs.

[@SovereignStatesman]

​@UC1QbmR2M8XaTAB3eOWCdN7g- ​And dreams are the food of procrastination.

[@Tatsigr]

The man who refuses to fight his battles ends up fighting them all in the end. Alexander the Great.

[@xcxc7167]

what battles?

[@ddqwf]

anglekan Alexander The Great is only great because he didnt wait around for the tribes North of the Danube to invade his nation. He got up an vonquered them before they and the illyrians came to him the greek as well to an extent ect ect.

[@siriusleigh24]

You say that like its a bad thing

[@naman245]

Daniella G Let it all hit me,fuck it all.

[@painexotic3757]

We're all going to die in the end so these so called "battles" don't matter in the long run.

[@mbonnar]

This man speaks from having listened to hundreds of patients talk about their problems and dealing with them. That alone deserves incredible merit attached to his words.

[@Vinc34U]

is he really helping anyone though? all I see him do is shaming but the thing is success is often never an option

[@Leonard-Mazet]

Yup the message is interesting but he lacks the compassion. HE is still acting as captain hook in my opinion; with good old shame n' blame.

[@Arjun-eb1yc]

@@Vinc34U Something seems to be working judging by the thousands of testimonies online from people who have improved their lives based on his advice. I know somebody in person too who did.

[@kratinshastri6550]

@@Leonard-Mazet true, but you also have to understand that a lot of times in life others can only show you what you should be doing. How you should be doing it is something that you have to figure out for yourself - or that it's up to you to find someone who will tell you the method.

[@martinledermann1862]

@@Leonard-Mazet He lacks compassion in your view? You must have never listened to his other lectures, interviews or various talks he gave.

[@zeepopular]

Been avoiding this video in fear he would describe me perfectly.

[@mando_apolgetico]

Stephen Jeffreys roughly speaking

[@frnzilla]

Stephen Jeffreys same .

[@jaetrnn6000]

The truth can sometimes be scary but accepting it is necessary in moving forward. There's no moving backwards in acknowledging something you've known deep inside all along. It takes great strength and courage to face yourself.

[@Ron-bz2xl]

Well, did he?

[@WaterKatara]

Yea Ron had my question...did he?

[@rustyshackleford5553]

Never realized the clock was a symbol for mortality in Peter Pan... Damn

[@hal9000xxl]

You see maybe it even wasn't but Jordan is so good to connect stories with real world like he did in his book with Bible. I have never seen someone use book or story to relate it to real life like Jordan does to pass his message. The point is it just doesn't matter what creator of Peter Pan thought Jordan's message is so powerful that it floors you down. It hits you like hammer right in the head and the more it hurts it only means the more you need it!!!

[@AntiCookieMonster]

ikr? getting btfo with truthbombs from dr. Peterson over here

[@claudermiller]

I didn't know Peter pan had a message. I thought it was just a cartoon.

[@Glasshopper]

The original story of Peter Pan was written because James Barie saw numerous homeless children dying of malnutrition. Neverland represented never growing up because they died. That's also why the imaginary meals. It was not just a cute children's story it was a scathing commentary of the disposability of the unwanted children.

[@Flippyboy]

It wasn't. That's Jordan's interpretation. It is a good interpretation but no THE intepretation.

[@ericrobbins9396]

I am finally coming out of my man child stage of life. Admittedly, I pissed away all of my 20s by drinking, using drugs, and working dead end jobs. I mooched off my mom and familly because they enabled me to continue this lifestyle without having to pay Bills and be responsible. Unfortunately all of this stunted my growth as far as being an adult. I am now 30 today and doing stuff I should have been doing in my early 20s. It's okay though. Now I pay all my Bill's have my own place, car, decent job. I wake up at 330 am every day to workout before work and am going to pursue a career in fitness. I quit drinking and drugs and everyday strive to become a better version of myself. Do not baby your kids or enable your familly members. You will realize, through struggle, that you are stronger than you have ever imagined.

[@Mountainman1971]

As a mother of a 25 yr old that I am enabling...thank you for those words.

[@bdhdhdhhdhdhjd3073]

Ok boomer

[@ericrobbins9396]

@@bdhdhdhhdhdhjd3073 nah I'm a doomer turned bloomer.

[@aLi112]

@@ericrobbins9396 great man i'm 19 going to turn 20 and your comment gave me alot to think about ty

[@ericrobbins9396]

That's for the comments guys. One thing I want to say that has helped me significantly is working out. I don't know if this will help anyone but the gym is a fantastic outlet that will also carry over in to other aspects of your life. It will teach you self disciple and also give you the confidence and self esteem boost to perform better in other activities throughout the day. Another thing I've learned to do is to write everything down that I need to remember. Appointments, bills, important dates etc this will help you be organized and succesful.

[@s4awd2]

I have a family member who is exactly this. Smart, charming, good looking guy who we all thought could be a businessman, lawyer, teacher etc. Everyone praised him continuously and girls fawned over him but as the years passed he never really did anything aside from graduating. He is now in his early 40's and still in his parents house stating that men are in their prime in their 50's so he has "time". Very scary. Perfect example of being taken totally unaware. Blink and 10-20 years will have passed.

[@onebrokegirl3864]

Wow most phDs at that age I know work at some kind of job e.g lecturer and such, this is just wow

[@xen3588]

50 year olds certainly have more oppurtunity and less oppression right now thats for sure

[@katierose1893]

What did he graduate in? Did he not work at all?

[@s4awd2]

@@katierose1893 Graduated from BU and worked at various banks and law firms and was always the life of the office parties. Had relationships with coworkers but as with any Peter Pan, he always dropped the relationships, switched jobs. Given there was no traction or career path, this led to lower tiered back office positions and IT which he thought would be fun but of course isn't lol. He then became a tutor overseas and ultimately decided he would become a pilot. He took the lessons provided by his parents but was not able to commit to the massive amount of hours required realizing even if he did put in the flight hours, he would be 50 + before he could get a commercial license for a low level pilot job. Not sure what's next but he seems happy.

[@red3dart32]

@@s4awd2 Well it doesn't sound that bad. When you said "he never did anything after graduating and lives with parents at 40", I thought that he just partied, fucked around and never worked, being financially dependent on his parents. But it sounds like he tried a lot of careers. Sure, maybe you think it'd be better if he settled in a career path and got married. But idk, grass is always greener...

[@chucknorrisffs]

"What have you been doing for the past 10 years ?" *Existential crisis intensifies*

[@francescogiacomopelagatti8221]

Hell, that s the crisis you want to dig through. That s the kind of crisis that makes you uncomfortable, but lets you grow up. The guy speaking in the video has got good points. On the other hand he's only telling what the peter pan syndrome is, he s stating what can be found in any psychology book. He s cool, yes, he knows a lot of things, but his perspective seems rather limited. Hell, are you kidding? Who wouldn't like to be Peter pan, living a life of adventures, taking life as a joke, laughing at life itself? Those who can laugh at life are the wiser amongst men, and can do everything. Who wouldn't like to be cptn Hook? Heck you fear time sure, who doesn't? He s got his own crew, a ship, he s a pirate, a most feared one, he s a rebellion against society, a man who fights for his own dream, for everyone s dream, even if he s got no hope, even if his dream seems stupid, even if he knows he gonna lose all the time. He s not an adversary to Peter, rather he s his other half. And yes they fight, as every man fights himself every day. Is Hook a bad guy then? And yes if you look at them from a bourgeois perspective Peter and Hook will look gray and flat and without hope, something wrong indeed. But that s why this guy is commenting Peter Pan and you could still write it.

[@chucknorrisffs]

@@francescogiacomopelagatti8221 It's not what others think about you, I could care less on the judgements passed on me by society. Your subconscious mind is the one that bites you in the ass depending on how you live your life in the form of the 'road not taken'. It effects you psychologically giving birth to various detrimental complexes and how you view yourself in the long run, just as much as how discipline effects you for the better physiologically and psychologically. So in essence no one would enjoy living the 'Peter Pan' lifestyle in the longrun, it will mess you up every time your subconscious mind chips away at you manifesting feelings of inadequacy and self-loathing. This is how depression, social anxiety and in worst cases schizophrenia come about. These things have a way of snowballing, even though you might not see it now.

[@francescogiacomopelagatti8221]

@@chucknorrisffs maybe i didn't explain it well, but what i wrote was all about the self, not involving others. It s not about the peter pan lifestyle. It s about the crisis you mentioned in the first place. You have to dig through it, ride it. That s why i find the speech in the video limited in regards of perspective. Just don't kill your inner Peter, or you will wake up some day in your 50s watching behind you and struggling with the road not taken. Imagine what the world would be without Peters and Hooks, there would be no art, no music, no literature etc. Ok not everyone can be an artist, not one worldwide known at least. But that should not stop you. That s why i described Hook as i did, he s got a purpose, he s got a meaning in life. This is also the reason why most crisis manifest in the first place, in the forms you already mentioned. Ppl at certain points in their life discover a total lack of meaning, cos they gave away all they had to become something and now find themselves being only that something, which is not a meaning strong enough.

[@chucknorrisffs]

@@francescogiacomopelagatti8221 Fair point. I guess Moderation between the two is key and it's one of my hardest struggles in life..

[@francescogiacomopelagatti8221]

@@chucknorrisffs if moderation works for you then let it be moderation. Everyone needs to find his own balance, which is btw different for all ppl. It s by no means very hard to obtain and even harder to keep. I wish every guy on the net was as wise as you, wish you all the best.

[@umeuwe]

"You can be anything - but you're not anything." The brutal Truth of being too flexible.

[@vladdrakul7851]

It's just simplistic BS pretending to be 'insightful'. Of course no one can be everything. Time and space are limited and one does need to specialize but narrowing your horizons (which is what this fake guru is pushing because he wants to CONFIRM bias and bigotry and injustice rather than fight it). All my life i have been learning, New instruments, new history, new foods to cook, how to parent etc. This man is poison and you only have to see how all the racists, women haters and neo Nazis love him to see where he really stands. He talks rationality but defends religion which is immature reality avoidance. He pushes psychedelics irresponsibly. To close not open the mind. This guy is today's Charles Manson with good manners!

[@vladdrakul7851]

Your just another minion for a false prophet. Who do I have to be for logic to make sense? Look at yourself, you don't know why I criticize him OR what Peterson stands for. He is exactly like Manson in what matters. Weak fools falling for a narcissist. He speaks rubbish very nicely though but he gets people to like him because he tells people what the WANT to hear (as Hitler did, which explains why Nazis like him so much). He loves all the attention (he's a plastic Jesus) but he is full of shit. Like Trump he LOVES the unintelligent who can't see how full of it he is. You say a lot of fools listen to him . On this one thing you are tragically right and that's the problem, Just like McFood, the more tools 'lovin' it', the worse!

[@Nyarlathotep_Flagg]

Vlad Drakul+ When it comes to this specific point, I neither agree, nor disagree with you. It is not so simple as either you, or Peterson thinks in my opinion. And the idea that adulthood is about responsibility is a myth. It is, and was always about understanding. Forming an understanding of the world, is what makes you grow up. Responsibility is just one of the short-cuts(though I do not mean that as derogatory terminology, it is a legit path that grants a certain type of understanding. An understanding dependent upon what path and object/subject you become responsible for). I believe that much like many other intellectuals, he has chosen to push these simplified perspectives because the masses are seemingly incapable of grasping anything more profound(and so he accepted the flaws, in return for the gains, in terms of societal constructs). Religion was the same.

[@laughingalien]

Exactly, Andrew. The only way to grow (mature) as a human being is to experience life. Make your own decisions and take responsibility (i.e., accountability) for your actions. Jordan is stating the obvious (which resonates with a lot of folks).

[@bamawebdev8640]

Vlad: Gee, you don't seem like you have an agenda at all. If Peterson is concise, it's simplistic BS; If he's verbose, it's a word salad. Well? Which is it? Pick one and make an actual argument.

[@wchmielinski]

Don't reject advice just because it triggers you. In fact, that's exactly when you should be digging deeper.

[@artawesome30]

OMG RIGHT. It's crazy, the advice that offends/pisses me off the most is usually what I need to hear the most (even when I initially discount it as being "stupid" or "pointless"). I wish more people were willing to put their pride aside and accept that

[@deevee7221]

@@artawesome30 The problem is Brain. Many can't think critically or are socially inept and can blame disorders or anything else they imagine to dodge accountability for farming ass cells...and they strike out at jobs others can get.

[@qwertyuiop-ke7fs]

It hurts but you gotta hear it if you've got a thick skull.

[@cam553]

JP has some good points to make, and in some cases, offers sound advice. But this is not a one size fits all world. The man takes medication which sometimes leads to a sense of confidence and empowerment. This can be heard in his often fluent and eloquent articulation. This is not a model that Everyman should follow, and can lead to problems later in life. There is a honeymoon period while the patient is spellbound and literally unaware of the temporary soothing of the ego. They, whether consciously or not, are literally addicted to the sound of their own voice. Confidence and self esteem are abstract concepts that exist nowhere in the known universe. While it may be useful to convey confidence at certain times and behave stoically at others, detachment from ego and contrived goals maybe a better way to inner peace or contentment. I’m sure there’s plenty of men out there who are unhappy in their jobs and marriages that follow these self help books. Some maybe even hate or are hated by their children or spouse. I feel for these men that have tried so very hard.

[@Off-The-Top-Of-My-Head]

Cam 76 wow. Seems like you have it all figured out then, huh ? Got any stock tips

[@papaspike]

"There's a sacrificial element in maturation. You have to sacrifice the pluri-potentiality of childhood for the actuallity of a frame". This phrase this man said was something I've been subconciously thinking about and been afraid of for a very long time as a guy in my early 20s, but I could not find the words to describe it... This alone opened my mind a lot.

[@StudioThirtyEight]

"Some people die at 30 and aren't buried until they're 75." -- Benjamin Franklin

[@zeethree]

I think Peterson died at 20. He looks awful for his age and seems like a miserable man.

[@jakesilvers2844]

Z I’m not going to add detail to this as I’m not going to waste energy responding to the preponderance of things asinine about you’re statement. So I’ll leave it at this, you obviously missed the point of the video, and are obviously making a foolish in-cohesive statement because you disagree with him and couldn’t think of something more valuable to say

[@emiliathomas4730]

@@jakesilvers2844 looks like someone cracked open mr thesaurus lmao chill Jake

[@jamesbra4410]

ie men who get married

[@jakesilvers2844]

@@emiliathomas4730 meh got bored, felt like shutting a libby up. thats nothing

[@ryn1706]

Please stop posting lectures about me on the internet.

[@MrSouthsideMuscle]

🤣🤣🤣

[@kevinyoung947]

Gold!!

[@playertomek5821]

Hahahahah....you savage

[@zekegonzalez1845]

Dude! This guy fucking hit me where it hurts! Haha

[@gusntroll]

Lol

[@fps8786]

What do you wanna be when you grow up? Me: save people Oh, you wanna be a Doctor? Me: i wanna be a plumber

[@annieinwonderland]

As he said they have saved more lives

[@KennethSee]

That's how we eventually defeated diseases like cholera and dysentery. Yes, vaccines and modern medicine were key factors but hygiene and plumbing made those advances stick.

[@007Fusiion]

Right there, you have a class divide.

[@scrwd4568]

You can save the princess as well, just find the right castle

[@iamrockness]

It's-a me, Mario!

[@mariabrady3999]

"They rob your future self while allowing you to pretend you have an identity" That hit me in the gut.

[@philobetto5106]

Testis 👀

[@kanethompson708]

Ditto.

[@julianspence6880]

yep hearing this at age 30 hits hard

[@MattMussett]

Blocked in like tetris

[@LopsideMakes]

Glad I’m hearing this before my later life! I’ll make sure to work through life responsibly!

[@FBWUniverseMode]

Am I the only one who believes his speeches are like the conversations you have in your head?

[@jennytaylor3324]

No! And yes, I've also thought that to myself.

[@francescogiacomopelagatti8221]

More like a printed book than what i have in my head, maybe close somehow.

[@jennytaylor3324]

@@francescogiacomopelagatti8221 A diary?

[@trevorfranks69]

Worth to be written to a novel

[@NC-do7fv]

That’s what Bill Maher basically said when JP was on his show. I agree with that what he says sounds, for lack of a better word, obvious. However, I think it’s his ability reduce us to our lowest common denominator and translate it so precisely into spoken words is remarkable. Thanks JP!

[@AllieMoonSailor]

“Time has already got a piece of you”

[@kitkat186]

His haters don't like the truth, so they want to shoot the messenger.

[@kenburns4547]

I was happy before I was alive, I can handle what's after.

[@cellardoor199991]

This is what Pink Floyd " Time"is all about.

[@revokdaryl1]

@@kenburns4547 How do you know you were happy before you were alive? When you weren't alive, you didn't exist. How can someone that doesn't exist experience happiness?"

[@echsfreshman]

As a 25 year old whose father left me at 13.. I apprecieate you Mr. Peterson.

[@mando_apolgetico]

Xavier Singletary roughly speaking

[@jyoti61948net]

More power to you brother.

[@exxie1]

God bless you brother.

[@edaguilar1798]

13 was the same age my father left It was perhaps worse at this age Strength and peace to you bro

[@soapfan2700]

That’s your dad’s loss. Was he the description of the man child?

[@shadow6543]

To all the man children there is hope, I was in the situation JP described at 24 no job, no direction, overweight. Then my dad died, without a safety net it was sink or swim. Now at 30 I’m married with two kids, in great shape and interning at a law firm. Struggle builds fortitude, success is out there you will find a way 🙏

[@Beezmilk]

Awesome

[@lukemerrifield9844]

I thank you for this, I'm 24 atm (25 in july) pretty much the same situation so gives me hope that someone started this journey off similar to where I'm at. Thank you and all the best to you.

[@manoftherainshorts9075]

I am 31 with no relationships ever, in a simple job, and the life is great.

[@jacksondickery509]

Fucking incredible 🙌

[@jmaj4521]

jesus christ you're superman

[@Oldhogleg]

I used to have a saying: "Every lifestyle has it's price, it's a matter of choosing which price you're willing to live with".

[@overhang88]

I would add, "and what price you're willing to pay"

[@kiliya1086]

OldHogleg, I so agree, my father told me once "you can do whatever you want as long as you're willing to live with the consequences" ,similar and equally as wise.

[@kinkreetmusic2518]

Reminds me of a quote from American Gangster: Success. It's got enemies. You can be successful and have enemies or you can be unsuccessful and have friends.

[@permaculturedandfree2448]

Oldhogleg or without 😉😆

[@jagjag1277]

Kiliya 108 and that is essentially the meaning of RESPONSIBILITY. Responsibility breeds life direction and purpose. A lot of young people always ask for a greater purpose in life when they can even lift a finger for RESPONSIBILITY.

[@Kryptnyt]

I feel bad for the guy he's making eye contact with for this whole lecture.

[@rogerpharel207]

Kryptnyt Like he's looking straight at you 🤓😣😎🤔😁

[@Big_Sierra]

Kryptnyt I was always that guy in school, the ones the teachers seemed to talk to more often. I think it was because I was engaged and they could tell. It’s an energy exchange.

[@insomb]

ahaha

[@cellardoor199991]

Kryptnyt LOL

[@Aworology323]

(camera moves in on face) (eyes shifting left and right)

[@c.o.2836]

I'm 26 , soon 27. Damn that struck me to the core. I need to grow the hell up and pick my sacrifice.

[@SovereignStatesman]

Don't be an idiot, you don't owe a thing to anyone but yourself.

[@thewhizkid3937]

@@SovereignStatesman ^ me gusta eso

[@lincolnq2141]

turning 27 in a few months lol

[@GNMbg]

you can do whatever the fuck you want

[@francisthagreat]

im 32 i wish i was 27 again lol... jokes aside look at what u really wanna do and go all in guns blazing, dont quit ur day job tho. all i can say is look at it like a marathon not a sprint. eventually everything compounds..

[@dasunit07]

Other thing I’ll add is as 32 year old male, life hits quick from 25-32. Can’t believe I’m 32 sometimes. And I took it pretty easy between 25-30, and my last 2 years have been literal hell learning that I have to sacrifice in order to feel fulfilled

[@joseignacioctm]

shit man im 25 i wish i didnt read this

[@mustbemeech]

@@joseignacioctm same😂😂😂 life is strange have a beer and laugh

[@DL-nb9hp]

what's next?

[@MrRAGE-md5rj]

@@DL-nb9hp Get a job, I guess.

[@justinhopper5941]

I’m 33 and feel the same. I really feel after 28 time went extremely quick and suddenly everyone you know is married with a few kids

[@sim.frischh9781]

Plumbers also save Princesses, at least according to Nintendo.

[@sim.frischh9781]

If he marries the Princess, he now is a King! So he is NO LONGER a plumber. Yet he HAS BEEN one.

[@pyrointeam]

Yeah but because that girl can't go one day without being kidnapped he has to use his plumber skills most of the time, making him more a plumber than a king

[@kathrynj.hernandez8425]

Sim. Frischh Bwahahaha

[@pyrointeam]

a man? Sorry i'm out, that's so transphobic, have you ever asked him if he identifies as a man and which pronouns he prefers? No? Then you are literally Hitler.

[@KK-jo2uf]

MARIO , Right ?

[@GameBOY5235]

i love how jordan recontextualizes disney movies from innocent childhood fantasies of whimsy and wonder into completely depressing relatable representations of the harshness of reality

[@SteezySteve760]

saito he dissected the fuck out of the Peter pan story. Lol

[@hyperspacejester7377]

The reason those whimsical wonders resonate is *because* of the underlying harsh reality! 👍

[@austinjackson7103]

The story existed before Disney

[@HuntingTarg]

Yes, and at the end of Peter Pan, he returns to London to find Wendy has grown up. She remembers the past, but he does not. The ending of J.M. Barrie's Peter Pan is actually a sort of social tragedy - the boy who never became a man.

[@drackxman]

Peter Pan was a short story and then a novel in 1911, way before Walt Disney started Disneyland.

[@KTChamberlain]

At the age of ten I learned a great piece of wisdom from my stepdad that acted as the foundation towards maturity and playing it smart: "Stupid costs extra."

[@neonshark6972]

Stupid does cost extra but we have over used and abused stupid so much that now we are over populated with stupid.

[@neonshark6972]

@imahelpfulperson its only a matter of time for when stupid people will be in a true furnished prison and jobs/labor will be filled with automation to produce FOR those in power. Video games and social media are primary example of the beginning of furnished prisons.

[@Connie938]

Your stepdad is a very smart man!

[@lekkki1]

lol. My dad used to always say: Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. It took me a while, but I figured it out.

[@mando_apolgetico]

KTChamberlain roughly speaking

[@seintmike7907]

All these other guys needing help, makes me feel not alone. I hope you are all doing okay. At 28, still at my parents, unemployed, college student, loss of drive, depressed, low self worth. I believe we can do it.

[@sydneykabiru9352]

You will be okay

[@blackblurable]

That's cool that you believe in something.

[@tribecalledmaya]

at least you are in college!! continue to challenge yourself, discomfort with awareness of purpose leads to growth.

[@seintmike7907]

@tribecalledmaya thank you Maya. I appreciate that. Just got a new job 3 weeks ago too!

[@brother_of_bruh]

Hell yeah brother, I'm rooting for you. Feels good to not be alone with these struggles. I should really look for a self help group or some stuff like this in my area

[@franzhaas6889]

JORDAN "ROUGHLY SPEAKING" PETERSON .

[@Runny117]

thatd be a great name for his podcast

[@josephbrandenburg4373]

Jordan "as Jung says" Peterson.

[@theusher2893]

Jordan "clean your room" Peterson

[@rampant9358]

Jordan "lobsters are humans" Peterson

[@7pazzainteramala]

Jordan "as far as I'm concerned" Peterson

[@LightCrasher]

"If you don`t go and get what you want you will die in a pile of what you did not wanted" - Chuck Palahniuk

[@user-iu3ii8sq6t]

Dude Chuck is like this guy but without all the bitterness and insistence on natalism

[@user-iu3ii8sq6t]

@@AlexAlcyone it's not the thing you want that matters - it's the drive to get what you want, so you can spend your life steering your own ship and not just being pushed around, because then you can at least say you did everything you could to grow and find your own meaning

[@user-iu3ii8sq6t]

@@AlexAlcyone why do people have to remember your name for you to matter? What if you have a silent positive effect on others that ripples down through the next generations?

[@user-iu3ii8sq6t]

@@AlexAlcyone hmm, if that doesn't work for you, consider this: billions of years from now, the heat death of the universe will occur. Everything destroyed. All dimensions collapse, including time. Which means everything that has ever existed, everything that ever happened happen at once. Everything, everyone outside of time. It will feel like a still eternity without time to move events forward, experiencing everything in your past at once. Do you want that to be a pleasant experience? If so, live well, grow, invest in yourself, live in the moment.

[@satnav1980]

Sweet. So there is light at the end of the tunnel.

[@nnamdi602]

I'm 28... I can feel the walls caving in... But I'm fighting & I will come out of the other side.. The sacrifice I have chosen is my comfort zone.

[@CDines]

I quit my job at 28 (thinking I could find potential elsewhere) and went full on hermit mode on drugs till 30. One day I woke up and realised everything he just said in this video

[@CDines]

@Ayor a alive and well thank you for asking. Went back to the job I quit as I was lucky enough for them to hire me back during tough times. Pretty much changed my mindset forcefully. I hope this method works

[@eirikram]

I wish I had these lessons in my life when I was a young 20-year-old man child. I am 36 now, lost many good women, I have no children, I am alone. There is still enough time to make sacrifices and accept my mortality. Sacrifice, you get to pick your damn sacrifice, that's all. You don't get to not make one.

[@ramsnation196]

well said brother

[@johnbartender3451]

Same here. I recently lost a woman that could have been my wife… I knew deep down she was different. I never been this hurt in my entire life. That was a wake up call to stop acting like a teenager a be a man. I’m 37.

[@manoftherainshorts9075]

Why don't sacrifice your progenesis?

[@ericphilen3433]

37 here bro, it’s ok, we are late bloomers. I’ve dealt with addictions, my uncles and friends suicide, multiple trauma accidents via cars, tire blown up in my face, PTSD, depression, etc. But we are still here! Make the best of it. It started with replacing my worries with gratitude 🙏🏼 Not throwing myself a pity party Stay Disciplined. Stay Blessed. Stay Up.

[@bryaneddy5272]

dude I'm forty and only started caring about getting my shit straight when I was about 33. It's doable and life doesn't have to suck.

[@richardsou]

"Potential is interesting, Performance is EVERYTHING." This video makes sense. Every boy is talented, but a man chooses the wall to lean his ladder up against and stays there until he becomes successful. Only when you are successful do you get another role!!! This was comforting to hear due to me wanting to be successful in two endeavors in order to create a lifestyle for myself and family where we ultimately rely on our passive income, not our job income. I am 33 years old today, and realize that the next couple of years will be a challenge of wits... but the most important thing to me is to do the work, do it my way and do it with people that have like-minded goals.

[@_siai]

More power to you! I resonate with your comment about passive/job income so let me tell you something I've learned in my pursuit of that myself: Do one thing to the completion before you begin another. All the best!

[@cristianm7097]

Corporations will stunt your development as a human being.

[@cristianm7097]

@Rishi Life is not enjoyable anymore as a stunted human being.

[@proudatheist2042]

Not everyone is talented.

[@pennation4234]

Don't know why people hate this man He's just brilliant

[@toontic1543]

He speaks the truth and that is enough for some very closed minded people not to bear a millisecond of it.

[@llewodcm20]

There is a growing class of modern humans who can't handle the truths of life... Realities that are too harsh for them, and they don't want to hear it from anyone.

[@Inannarising]

People hate him? 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@Pomiferous]

@Hippo Pilot People need a sense of purpose in order to find fulfillment.Joining causes is a poor way but none the less popular method of going about finding it.

[@AlexKS1992]

I don't hate him but I think he's a windbag who thinks he's Gods gift to mankind.

[@marcwareham9351]

Imagine comparing a 18 year old of today, with a 18 year old from 100 years ago!

[@theguybehindyou4762]

To be fair, the 18 year old from a century ago had his hard work rewarded with good pay he could live off of, and he wasn’t being lied to from every angle.

[@lnfestissumam]

You mean slaving in a factory for pennies? Yeah, pretty fulfilling existence.

[@rd3299]

@@theguybehindyou4762 A century ago, an 18 year old would likely have been brought up believing he had to either find work in the growing industries or labor in the farms, start and raise a family, and fight in the Great War or whatever conflict his country happened to be coming to at the time...

He could easily handle wife and kids, in fact they married young anyway.

[@rd3299]

@ Aint nothing easy about a wife and kids

[@pearlcorcet9652]

As a 20 years old female, I heavily relate to this. Being the first born, from my birth everyone has been congratulating me on my potential and ability without me having to do much anything. I also have the privilege to grow up in an environment that always cater to my needs, so overtime, I never take full responsibility for my decisions and trying hard in anything, my social relationships are strained or non existent and my future is really blurry. I have no basis knowledge of my studies and a clear sense of where I’m going, and I’m always making my parents worry because of my behavior. I know I’m still young, but I’m afraid that I can’t change and I will become a burden to my family in the future, because it’s only now that I realized my Peter Pan syndrome is really severe.

[@anotheryoutuberperson38]

You blame yourself too much and probably have ADHD. The future is blurry for everyone right now, find what you’re good at and work on it.

[@amitsingh-yk3ps]

I will suggest u to move out and travel more alone

[@hope-cat4894]

Same here. It's good that you see this now because once you've realized you have a problem, you're on your way to fixing it. You're not alone in being a woman-child needing to let go of adolescence.

[@timspiker]

Nah you will never be a burden. When I was 20 I started working towards my dreams, I achieved them when I was 24 and then lost them all due to Covid shutting down my business (I was a DJ and party organizer). Losing those 4 years and losing everything I had built made me realize that you shouldn't worry at all. Just spend your time having fun. If I could do it over, I'd probably choose to stay at home and play video games like I am now at 27 living back with my parents. Life is too short and you don't know what dumb things happen in the future. It is pretty much unpredictable and so making any planning is undoable and will likely not work out the way you want, which then could make you end up where you started. It's not worth it. Appreciate the life you've been given and be there for the people around you, they'll never see you as a burden.

[@anandpushkar7510]

One day will be in a better place my friend, till then we keep on going and giving our best

[@chriscross4004]

C. S. Lewis wrote: "The little boy chose security, the grown up man chose suffering."

[@heyhoe168]

No one in healthy mind chose suffering, this is the bullshit. I may understand a trade, but the pure suffering?..

[@0Demiyah0]

Happiness is overcoming struggle, not evading it 💯

[@janmajer4662]

@@heyhoe168 He choses the suffering so the others are happy and secure.. then his job is done.

[@evilpajamas8192]

@@@heyhoe168 many saints choose suffering to experience life, Buddha is a prime example.

[@evanurena8868]

@@0Demiyah0 There's also people that overcome struggle or at least cope with it but still end up unhappy. So struggle doesn't always correlate with happiness.

[@1life744]

Heal your inner wounds and become alive. Opinions of society wont matter when you freed yourself from yourself. Feeling ashamed that you havent accomplished anything in societys eyes is being unkind to your self. Most humans accomplish things on the outside but never heal their ancient wounds. And that is the most profound journey to undertake. Everything falls into place after that

[@dewaynestafford5507]

BINGO

[@platoschronus5560]

1 Life You have no idea how bad I needed those words. Thanks for being you 🙏🏻

[@sarahdixon6011]

Face fears head on 🤨

[@chocolateextravaganza1907]

👌

[@theapplechapel]

True, very true. Life will shape you so you will grow up but you have to take the initiative to heal your inner self, no outer pressure will make that happen naturally.

[@bearifiablepau2095]

I get so much crap from the people around me for wanting to convey this message. Living in Neverland is quite dire, adult-children feel so angry and distressed and lost, truly lost. They have no clue why. They are not capable of putting two and two together that they never did the work, thus they don't have the results. They confuse tyranny with being held accountable for their actions. I've had to fight a battle against lost boys and girls, angry adults that treat me like garbage because I do the work and expect them to do the same (my bad). They don't realize I'm not the enemy, they think the mess out there is put upon them when really it's the mess their party-lives left behind. Thank you for existing and verbalizing what is not allowed to many of us, Jordan Peterson.

[@zeethree]

I never had a party life and I became a lost boy. I never drank, did drugs, or socialized at all. Don't make assumptions. A lot of us have anxiety disorders from the way we were raised and poor parenting. Technology has damaged us psychologically as well. Games, porn, social media, smartphones have given us substitutes for traditional experiences and necessities. The rise of female empowerment has also decreased what many men have to offer women. If you can't attract a good woman without an absurd amount of effort then most men are gradually going to walk away from the responsibility. Feminism turned natural companions into competitors.

[@bearifiablepau2095]

Oh I see, it looks like I'm saying that all lost people were party people. I agree it's not always the case; I'm sorry to hear you had a rough situation. We're usually not in control of our circumstances, nevertheless we are in control of our reactions, therefore we can decide whether to be responsible or not. I'm quite displeased with the lack of responsibility and accountability on the part of most of the adults that surround me. I didn't mention feminism, I'm not sure why you brought it up. I will say, it would do men well to develop a sense of responsibility and self-respect. Girls don't want flashy macho type guys. In general women don't care about that, we care most for integrity, at least when it comes to long lasting relationships. Maybe it would help if you knew that also have attraction problems, we get frustrated, we compete, sometimes we feel like we have to put absurd amounts of energy to be noticed. I'm sorry but giving up is a choice, we all gotta deal with difficulties, so toughen up and go get em! ;)

[@zeethree]

@@bearifiablepau2095 Telling a guy to just toughen up is a joke meme which means you're clueless and out of touch. You are incapable of empathizing with the suffering of men. What I'm saying to you, if you could listen, is that there is no longer a benefit to become what you narrowly define as being a "responsible man." Women are now mens competitors, not their companions. Feminism and technology have broken the social contract. Marriage rates and birth rates will continue to decline. When I heard my brother's friend was getting married I felt deep sadness for him. I never told him, but I felt very sorry for what he was signing up for. It's like hearing your friend enlisted in an army. You're not ashamed of him, but you feel sad about it because he's potentially making the most regrettable decision of his life. I don't consider people who jump into things brave or tough, most of them are just stupid and naive about the consequences of their actions.

[@bearifiablepau2095]

Thank you for your reply Z, I see your point. I was in a predominantly male college for some years. I understand what you mean by the death of social contract. Having said that, the non-existence of a social contract has nothing to do with lack of responsibility, of boundaries and of acting in humane ways. In those days I had a constant feeling of being downplayed do to my gender. Btw, I was never a player, I didn't dress provocatively nor sought to gain advantage out of qualities other than what schoolwork required (mostly intellectual); this perceived lack of femininity led to isolation, as I got no attention from supposedly smart guys; these boys constantly objectified women and idealized the image of perfect-looking women in front of me and other female friends. Some even resented women because of bad experiences, in other words, victim mentality -I might add, that we girls have bad experiences too btw. I'm sorry but most of these guys had no balls and were absolute hypocrites, crying because some pretty girl didn't want to be with them while at the same time systematically ignoring and downplaying their female peers. Respect and consideration for others has nothing to do with gender in it of itself. What I enjoy about JP´s videos is that he has the capacity to present clear ideas, an tangible action plan for people, sometimes aimed specifically at men because of it's nature, and sometimes at women.

[@zeethree]

@@bearifiablepau2095 Men are very visually motivated regarding sex. So you say you didn't dress provocatively and then complain that you didn't get attention. You're complaining about a biological design of men. No different than a man complaining that women seek out men with more resources and competence. Most boys in college, let's not call them men because most are not, are looking for sexual experience. They're not thinking about women they want to marry or start a family with. What changed? It wasn't that way for my grandparents. To expect most boys today to want to be mature at 20 would require society to change in a way that rewards that goal. Married men and fathers aren't treated with any respect while sexually active guys are idolized by other guys and sought after by physically attractive promiscuous women. Married men are no longer seen as father-knows-best types, they're a bunch of simps who have their finances and decisions controlled by their wives and who retreat to a dark corner of their house they call a man cave. Every marriage today is tenuous at best and the costs to a man of a failed marriage are brutal. The costs to a man of a successful marriage are often brutal as well since raising/providing for kids is no picnic for men or women. This isn't an era where you're coming home from work and the pipe and slippers are awaiting you for your hard work. So what exactly is supposed to be the motivation for boys to hurry up and act like men? To get to your second marriage faster? Society caters to extended adolescence and encourages it with social media, dating apps, games, porn, movies, music and KZbin. So boys indulge in it because it feels good up until they reach a point where they realize that their lives have no purpose. They have no women and children to provide for and protect. The most satisfaction a man can get is to be so competent and useful that he can take care of others who love, appreciate and respect him. Ultimately I think everyone is losing today regardless of what choices you make. Responsible married men have a rough life. Carefree boys have a lack of meaning in life. Women who prioritize higher education and career goals are more likely to end up alone. Marriage isn't forever anymore so even if you get there you have poor odds for success. Bottom line, why be responsible in a world where there is no obvious reward for it? Women used to make the rewards for becoming a man obvious, now it isn't clear if there is any reward at all.

[@adamhonestyanddecency5054]

2:15- "It is NOT a happy day."- Damn straight. Hit me at forty-one. But I can still make choices, and I will. Life's not over until it's over.

[@Magipot6]

Adam Honesty and decency, same here I’m 35 at my desk like damn he hit the nail on the head. But options still exist.

[@HuntingTarg]

"It ain't ovah, 'till it's ovah; 'till the fat lady sings." -Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

[@molestedmango]

Yeah pretty much

[@AlielJorax]

May want to consider what Randy Pausch said in his Last Lecture on that (free quote): Don't beat yourself up over not knowing what you wanna be in life. Some of the more interesting people I knew in life did not know with 30. Some of the MOST interesting did not know with 40... Check it out!

[@SaraLovesTea]

Adam Honesty and decency its not over until u stop breathing 🤷🏻‍♀️ Nelson Mandela was a true example

[@Lloydy786]

I just turned 35 and still haven't chosen a career. Been "thinking what to do" for the last 15 years. There are too many options, I'm not sure if I'll be good at it, I don't know if I'll like it. Same thing for 15 years. Now I'm 35 very little job experience, no qualifications, IM NOTHING BUT POTENTIAL, an old infant and that's an ugly thing. I could be anything but I'm not anything. Today I will choose to be "something".

[@jandub7569]

I hope you did your decision

[@rosycc0606]

To be you need to act

[@DanielLopez-sh2pp]

I feel Ai will simply help me get the ball rolling and doing many things at the same time while adding complex meanings, memories, dreams etc. While being inside the matrix while being able to write multiple stories while moving forward in multiple realities and demensions. So time is no limit if you are engrossed in what you are doing. Since time is just there. You write your own stories.

[@007lutherking]

I'm 30 and i have an engineering degree, i failed my masters, wasted years, had a couple of years of professional experience. Now in a different country and couldn't find a job for 3 years straight. Finally found a gig leaned from it, now doing it on my own as a business. Not something i wanna do for the rest of my life. I can totally understand your situation, it's hard to pick a career as i do not want a career in my field and i wanted to get into IT but idk about that either. It's messed up when youre not passionate about something specific and want to only get into that field. Perhaps you are

[@wintertontoday]

Totally feel you. Good luck. 💪

[@DavidAlbujaGavela]

wow. 36 years old peter pan here. in tears.

[@ways1]

Don't worry, you are young.. joke. Ppl learn a career in 3 years or less, what I mean is if u start now -with full motivation- you can get your shit together by 40. Lets go!

[@pickmeup95]

24* it's tough without a male role model. I think I was always waiting for that call to action. No sob stories tho Ima manifest my own motivation...after one more video

[@UberStomp]

I studied for my GED and went to a trade school at 36. Never too late brother!

[@Ironfrenzy217]

I awoke at thirty and am still trying to figure out how to get up and stay up.

[@rizzotto95]

You cried because the penny finally dropped. As long as you're still alive you can change things. Some people never realise they need to change so you've already made progress

[@Pakadork]

How tragic that not a single person in my life growing up was like Peterson. I feel like I'd be trillions of lightyears ahead from where I am now if I had a role model like him growing up.

[@Kwatson855]

Me too!

[@RazzLeSH]

Peterson is an intellectual genius, these people are rare to come across and should be cherished. At least we've got his knowledge and can apply it to our own lives, god bless

[@darkdjinniumbrage7798]

For real

[@shawnesantana575]

​to do it😢

[@mooshway2000]

You can do it now, it's up to you. Most of us don't have perfect role models, even if we did we'd find them overbearing.

[@n4ko]

I know the feeling. I woke up at around 27 years old. Highly introverted, haven’t spoken to people for nearly 10 years. I had to construct a social life and find things that I like as fast as I could. I’m 32 now. The social life part is still complicated but I found a few things I like that take up my time in a healthy way and I’m a few years in a psychology career. And I love it. Not pretending there. It can be done but I always felt the hardest part to take actions was being really aware of things I already knew. Conciesness of who I am has really taken me a long way

[@ScringlyMcdumplefart]

@barbara Corcoran this person above me is insecure about their own career.

[@ramsnation196]

this is insanely inspiring thank you because I want to become a psychologist too

[@joshfromtwitch7759]

Can you share what you did to meet people, I have no social circle anymore in my 30s and don't say bars

[@n4ko]

@@joshfromtwitch7759 that’s never been easy for me. I do treasure the few friends I have but i still struggle sometimes. If i had an answer I would say that work has done wonders for me. I Pay college working in a factory. For the first few years I mostly kept to myself ( like most of my life) but I started to learn a few things. I became dependable and people started to look out for me. I guess that actually knowing how to do something right made the anxiety go away (sometimes). This was 10 years ago and one step took me to the next. You have to put yourself out there. It’s going to be uncomfortable and awkward sometimes but there really is no other way.

[@ramsnation196]

@@joshfromtwitch7759 u have any hobbies u wanna start?

[@MsNezbet]

This video was a wake up call for me when I watched it a year ago. The way Peterson jumped from a young 20 something with potential to the old infant sent a shiver down my spine. Fear of failure never really resonated with me throughout school/university. Then 18 months flew by after I graduated and I was still a manchild (at the time of first watching this video). Moved cities, got a decent job and actually bear real responsibility for the first time in my life. I wouldn't say I've found "meaning", but it's better than delaying the inevitable/trying to convince myself that I was happy being a NEET.

[@umagnovenju]

you'll never find a meaning only what keeps you off suicide

[@pokefanover900000000]

Good for you man.... I'm still in the process.... Goin to college rn

[@fozzyozzy1030]

@@MsNezbet how'd you do it school, self taught?

[@OhWaker]

Yeah dude, how did you get good enough to be paid/get a job as a software dev? Did you teach yourself or did you go [back] to college for it or take programming courses?

[@OhWaker]

@@MsNezbet I see. Damn, I've been a NEET for 5 years with college and work for 3 years between NEET years 4 and 5 and sometimes it feels like the road is very long. Good to be reminded that it's possible to reach the end.

[@atrocious_pr0xy]

I was 32 when i woke up and realized i had to grow up.. it wasn't enough that i had a wife and son prior to that. it is a lone journey to see yourself as something tangible and not whimsical. My realization is horrific, though, due to knowledge of wasted time.. But there is solace in knowing i have time to choose my sacrifices.

[@uchechukwuibeji5532]

Same bro. I turned 32 in June and I'm catching up on a lot of things I've missed. This whole year has been a transitional series of moments in my life. Keep fighting the good fight and don't give up. Too much is on line at this point.

[@signorUBO]

How is possible that you were not adult enough? Even if the son, and the wife subsequently, were an accident, you got them, you were not expressing responsibility to them? Hadn't you got a career?

[@Julia-ey4zd]

What have you realized specifically?

[@mrs.schmenkman]

You guys are backwards thinking. You should be happy you learned now instead of when you 62

[@itown4ever]

Exact same boat as you. Coasting along and then WACK! Like a hard strap over the ears. Thank God video games actually became boring - it's just KZbin that's left that I need to leave behind. PS I have 2 year old son and I'm living with his mother but none of it was planned. I'm not about to lie to you or myself that I adopted the responsibility willingly - it just happened to me but I thank God every day that it did.

[@Shnecko]

I'm 33, quickly becoming that 40 year old he warned about in the video. I haven't chosen my sacrifice. I haven't had to face that moment yet. One day, my parents will no longer be here to support me, and I will get hit with circumstance like running into a brick wall. I feel so gripped by my inaction, it has become a way of life for me ever since high school graduation. Depression sat in years ago, and I'm clueless as to how I should begin.

[@anish15]

Just start from wherever dude, do any job. If you're eager and willing to learn and show up there are people willing to hire. Just don't wait to be prepared, just dive and do it. As you start doing some work, get into some routine your mind will start working and things will start working out itself. It will be hard at first a d there will be days you won't feel like doing it but the thing is to just do it. I've been there where you are and choose to take action not care about what people think and did whatever work I could find and suddenly I'm enjoying it and wonder why didn't I do it five years earlier but it's always better to do it now than five years later! So just do it, apply for whatever jobs are there and whatever I mean whatever once you're life looks like its on some sort of track, get some education on what you would like to persue as a career, it's never too late! Good luck my man!

[@CDines]

I vowed to never do anything customer related in my 20s cos I'm very introverted. At 30 now, I wish I put my younger more energetic self out there to learn everything I could from tough choices

[@arnoldwayne5402]

How are you doing now?

[@joshfromtwitch7759]

I had to be pushed to get a job I was so depressed laying around doing nothing but once you start being active life becomes cool again. Just go to a temp service and take a job.

[@user_7239]

Why the fk is it so hard? Just start doing shit that’s good for u that feel sucky. And keep doing it over and over. You lack discipline bc you gave up on everything that was hard but good. Get used to pain and discomfort or you’re screwed. And stop whining and playing dumb. U sound like a child.

[@AS-kg3mf]

"You're an old infant and that's an ugly thing" 😆

[@oceanside9508]

Alyssa Sharp, I sincerely hope you didn’t interpret that statement imagining a literal “old infant”. He’s speaking metaphorically for crying out loud, don’t be silly. I’m only saying that because it isn’t actually something to laugh at, he’s making a serious point that should be taken seriously.

[@SerenityNow331]

@@oceanside9508 Yeah, I caught that too. Ms Sharp isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, it seems.

[@zizu1236]

@@oceanside9508 everyone gets that it is a metaphor you imbecile. Hovewer visualising the image of that is quite funny.

[@oceanside9508]

Helper's Corner, I am known to be somewhat of a jokester myself, believe it or not. But this particular “joke” just rubbed me the wrong way. To me, this was like trivializing and joking about a sad tragedy. The tiny bit of humor to be found in this ridiculous literal interpretation of a metaphor is heavily outweighed by the tragic core of the statement. I didn’t mean to be a debbie downer and put down other people’s fun. I guess the topic just personally hit somewhat close to home and because it is, in its essence, quite a dumb and childish joke. But there’s nothing wrong with that, I just didn’t find it very fitting given the seriousness of the topic, in my opinion.

[@thereisnosanctuary6184]

Cape Meares Erase all your comments. You can do that you know.

[@AlanWattResistance]

Perterson is spot on. I'm now in my 30s and it's amazing how differently people treat you compared to when you were in your 20s. It's like Peterson says, when you're young you have the excuse of being young and stupid, but when you hit 30 people judge you more harshly, like they now expect you to have all the necessary tools to become successful, and if your not, then you're just a loser by choice.

[@econogate]

You seem to forget that winning and losing maybe relative. One persons junk maybe another persons gold. Judging people based on the number they are at maybe like trying to read palms and predict the future. His points are valid though, just that if not careful with these observations one can fall into a trap of overgeneralization.

[@timothyblazer1749]

For men, this is true. Not so for women, generally speaking. A woman "returning to work" after being out of the workforce for 10 years raising children, or even just being in a marriage without children, is welcomed with open arms. All she has to do is talk about the community work she did, or the volunteer work she did, etc. A man will be laughed at, even if he spent the last 10 years travelling, learning and growing in other ways;, and is, in essence, a much better candidate than the above woman. It's sociological bias. End of story. And being sacrificial.. that's nonsense. Thats what is demanded by society, not what is demanded by The Universe.

[@stumbling]

Timothy Black, raising a child is a pretty bloody good excuse for a gap in your resume.

[@crazymdrive]

They only do those things to White men.

[@zackklein2225]

I think it has to do with looks.

[@ykb946]

"Never eat yellow snow" -Abraham Lincoln

[@quantumfoam140]

CC C “I said great googily-moogily!”

[@kek397]

"How the hell do I turn this thing off" -Atilla the Hun

"Never Eat Sea Weed" - Cyanide

[@SovereignStatesman]

@ "Eat Seaweed "-- The Beatles, KELP!

[@KRAZEEIZATION]

Nanook!

[@Beastly477]

This was exactly who I used to be. A great big man child. Had a life changing event happen in 2022 that made me realize the path I was on only lead to suffering and eventually death. Since then, I've reshaped who I am as a Person and my life has never been so good! Every single day is a truly a pleasure to live through, even when it's a hard day. I hope whoever reads this comment can see my joy and know deep down that it's possible to achieve where I'm at, because a little over 1 year ago, I was at the lowest rock bottom I've ever hit, and today (and most days) are highlights in my life! Keep those chins up folks, I know for a fact it gets better

[@zeamays6207]

I'm glad you're doing good. 2022 was also the year i hit rock bottom... But I realized i'm young, i still have time, and I don't want to waste it.

[@andrewortiz5797]

Very Inspired Testimony. I'm trying to move forward in my Life but I suffer with social anxiety which is really debilitating and is effecting my job. Fear is my biggest Giant. Fear is trying to hold me back from going forward. I already came along way but find I'm slipping back. I uses to let people walk all over me and bully me but now that I'm finding my Self Worth I have stood up against them and what I find is they are afraid to say it to my face directly and I've stood my ground and challenged them. They act all stupid when I confront them saying they were talking about someone else or make some stupid excuse. I'm finding my self Worth and will honor it and defend it.

[@Beastly477]

@@andrewortiz5797 I know that you can do it because I've done it, and I was nobody. I believe you in brother. You got this

[@andrewortiz5797]

@@Beastly477 thanks man!! Let's see what Life does.

[@ragcage]

People are addicted to instant gratification these days, watching tv and movies, playing video games and always wanting to be that cool guy from the movie while never even beginning to take a step and work towards that goal.

[@thatdaddyal]

Covert narcissists !

[@tannermccollins23]

fictional heroism

[@Timbermannetje]

But people that MAKE movies, video games, are better!

[@sizzlepants8525]

Which is actually proven to be a physiological inevitability, related to early development in the home life in regards to things such as financial stress, those without it form a more developed part on the frontal lobe responsible for immediate vs delayed gratification, visa versa with stress and namely financial stress this same area becomes predisposed to venture towards addiction and immediate gratification. One of the true aspects of sociological construct cause and effect one should consider accounting for

[@bobafatt2155]

True , as a karate teacher I see it all the time . They want a black belt but don’t want to put in the time and effort to earn it .

[@TyDie85]

Speaking as a person who is 32, I can not afford college and I did mediocre in high school...PLEASE PLEASE if you're young, please try tour best to do well at an early age. Even if you are against this structure we live within, just grow within it and try to make it better. Seriously, once you hit 30, people look at you differently...and yea, I'm just BEGGING all the younger ones out there PLEASE listen to JP, he knows most of his shit:!!! I only disagree with him on a couple of things...but not easily...he is so smart...please do your BEST even if it is hard.

[@MmmMulholland]

Killing Jokes I second this. Seriously. You do not want to hit your 30s without education or a good career in place. It is horrifying.

[@Glurbschnurb]

and please don't smoke weed. It is the biggest time waster and potential killer on earth.

[@SerebiiWarrior]

I believe that the worst thing that you can say to someone starting out is "you have time, don't worry". You only get to be young once. You start getting old and forming lifelong habits and the longer you wait the harder it is to change. Get those good work and social habits down now.

[@ladynottingham89]

It's not too late for you. You may not get to be what you ideally envisioned for yourself, but not all is lost. I don't know your personal situation (whether you have kids or other responsibilities) but I have seen single mothers with 3 children turn their lives around. If they can do that so can you. The struggle is not over until you're dead.

[@unlimitedpotential24.7]

Glurbschnurb Complete lie. Cannabis increases one's thirst for knowledge and facilitates an expanded consciousness, along with increasing one's self-reflective capacity. There's a reason we have a 500+million-year-old endogenous cannabinoid system! It turns out that all humans make cannabis compounds, and they regulate pretty much all major biochemical processes from conception till death! (cardio, nervous, immune, endocrine, digestive, muscular, etc) Cannabis can literally align one with the evolutionary process that leads to higher complexity and increased self-awareness! Cannabis is one of the greatest things in terms of its vast benefits and uses. My goals in life have elevated and become more profound because of Cannabis use. Just use it responsibly, and it can be the life change that we are looking for! It literally aligns us with the evolutionary pattern of increased endocannabinoid activity!

[@sandoruray2240]

Never thought I'd hear tinker bell be called the fairy of porn

[@arjakrumapar2211]

Haha from a clinical phycologist too

[@sfappetrupavelandrei]

Why not?

[@ckse7536]

XD

[@Nyconbr]

2D waifus, in zoomers translation

[@CybermanKing]

I think the idea went over your head. Without a mother and without really any real and tangible woman in a man’s life, a man can be tempted to indulge in the only women he may see intimately which of course are girls in pornographic videos. Tinker bell isn’t real and neither is porn but there’s an addiction to the false promise of comfort it provides even some much it releases the same chemical reactions in the brain as does an infant embraced by its mother.

[@owenmarshall2599]

“You get to pick your sacrifice but you don’t get to not make one” this was nice to hear

[@TheJeremyKentBGross]

I've the opposite problem. I was a massive over achiever in college and in my 20's, even breaking 6 figure salary by my 29th bday after a couple years in 90-100k range. But in my 30's all motivation and interest has collapsed and now i do very little and i can't see a point to anything. I'm not interested in my job or old hobbies or anything. I 'work' part time. I feel like I'm in prison. I can go anywhere in the world, but there is no place to go. Life feels like the matrix or the truman show. Whatever it was i was chasing with a fire under my ass when i was younger, i didn't find it. So now I'm almost 40. I have world class engineering skills, and tons of theoretical potential still, but i can't stay interested anymore long enough to do that much that is productive and i don't know what is wrong with me. I go to work but can't focus. I go home and play games I'm not really interested in. I listen to youtube constantly for familiar voices as much as the ideas. I was married once at 24 for a year. That was awful. I also had a girlfriend for about 2 years from the ages of 32-34, but i was paranoid about a lot of signs that she might be cheating, and after the about the first year or so we fought constantly. Was insecure about a number of things in the relationship so we broke up. Somehow i use to believe in the future and that if i worked hard I'd build my dream life. And i did a lot. I still live abroad. I worked in the game industry and space industry. But i never managed to be or find what i thought i was or was aiming for. And i don't know what the meaning is. It's like I've reverted to a younger irresponsible person after initially skipping that phase, or something. At least I'm debt free. But there is no meaning anymore and i find it almost impossible to contribute to society like i think i should now and can't seem to maintain work and study and exercise habits that i was religious about in my 20s. I think i just didn't socialize enough when i was younger. Usually didn't feel i fit in for this reason or another. Idk. And here i am writing youtube comments because my brain seems averse to focusing on real tasks. I didn't use to be lazy. I'm not sure how to change it or to care again about a lot of things. I feel like i already missed what was really important in life, or something. Maybe i never knew. Or didn't know how to find it. Or.. idk. Maybe there was always some wall in the way of misconception or misunderstanding.

[@gattciyo]

Take test and get huge

[@rabidcentrist]

Jeremy Gross Well, Mr. Gross, sounds like you're going through a midlife crisis. Alienation, disincentivised, lost. Time for some navel gazing. If you are financially set, go on walkabout and try to find yourself. Doesn't really matter where you go, but some popular stops are Europe & India. Get out of the rut. The first step is the hardest. Unplug, read some philosophy, don't be afraid to talk to folks, don't be afraid to get burned.

[@TheJeremyKentBGross]

Isaac Robin I live in Europe now for almost 10 years. I only seem to be good at talking to people in certain rare moods, especially strangers. I've gone on whole holiday trips before, even to Africa, but not managed to talk to anybody that wasn't staff of the hotel or whatever. As for the other commenter about Jesus: I use to be Christian and in fact was home schooled a young earth abstinence only creationist, but it all fell apart under scrutiny. One thing i like about Peterson is his retrieval of something useful out of religion when all evidence points to the fact it cannot be true in a literal sense. In fact it's safe to say i "chased Jesus" so hard it made me an atheist. In my late teens and early 20s i read the bible hours a day. I once read the whole thing in 4 months cover to cover. Everyone said "God would speak to me", but i found that "God" sounded like an angry schizophrenic that was incapable of telling me anything i didn't already know, and endlessly threatened me with my worst fears and promised me my greatest desires, which if course was completely contradictory demands and statements. People said those voices weren't God, and i was like, yeah I've worked that out. But no matter how hard i tried, the real "God", if there was one, was unable or unwilling to cut through the noise i couldn't shut out and talk to me. I eventually realized prayer was just talking to myself and since i was not divine (at least not in that sense), i slowly became agnostic. My education along with my personal search through religions and the lack of religion, some philosophies etc i eventually concluded that if there is a creator of any sort, it's not described accurately at all by any major traditions. Evidence shows parts of the bible, for example, to be outright false and or self contradictory. In my late 20's i officially took the label of agnostic atheist. But i realized about the age of 25 that 42 was the supposed answer to everything as a likely parody of the easy nonsense answers offered by religion, like "Jesus is the answer to everything." Because my own experiences made me naturally think about that time: "if Jesus is the answer, then what is the question?" And suddenly Hitchhiker's made a lot more sense. Despite my contradictory replies, i appreciate the comments.

[@TheJeremyKentBGross]

Bonnie Brown You can Skype me if you wish. But the cynical side of me should point out that I'm not as rich as i probably sound in these posts. I've been working only part time for much less money than mentioned for some years now. So if you are looking for some rich guy to carry you around to Dubi or wherever on holiday, or who will make for a good divorce fleecing, I'm not your lottery ticket. If you have real questions that's another matter. But I'm not unaware of Game, gynocentric laws, Hypergamy and all the rest of it. I will walk away from any bullshit in a hurry as I've no patience for it left. That said I have lots of information and experiences on many things if asked about it correctly. Yet as Allan Watts claims Zen Masters say: I have nothing to teach. ;)

[@dragunmane3029]

Jeremy Gross start nofap

[@bokchoiman]

More and more men are experiencing a mid life crisis through stories posted online, having never actually gone through the real events that cause it. It sucks because that roadblock has been shifted to a zone where men are supposed to be at the prime in their lives. We overthink and don't act because we've convinced ourselves that we can see the future and the future is bleak. So what's the point of continuing on this road? This barrier is hard for adolescents to overcome because they already have so many other societal expectations they have to meet. It's now impossible to block out the future and we have to deal with it somehow. It's not fear of the unknown but the fear of the known that's hindering development, and that is even worse.

[@freshness222]

Everyone needs to see this comment.

[@iTydaa]

@@freshness222 I saw the road i was going to a full time 9-5 life with debt so i ran away from it by doing nothing only playing video games lmao now im just thinking about starting my own bussiness and working but never wanna become in debt and be in risk of not able to pay it off

[@edwardgaines6561]

Your post means well, but it is steeped with fear. All the mid-life crisis means is that you have a newfound appreciation for what's really important. A mid-life awakening, it truly is. You cannot be afraid to seize what makes you happy. Time is of the essence, and your McJob certainly can't pay you with "time."

[@sush6680]

I don't know.about mid life crisis but I totally agree with your comment... I am in my early 20s and I seriously feel like I know what's gonna happen if I choose a certain path career wise and am feeling stuck where I am... anyway good to know more people face this issue these days

[@edwardgaines6561]

@@sush6680 I'm 35 years old. Please do not put your head down at your job like I did. For 6 years...

[@sabrinaadam8557]

I am a woman but thanks to watching several of Prof. Peterson’s videos I have learned to take responsibility for my life and my failures. Hopefully will be starting a new career this spring, thank you Prof. Peterson!

[@ulfdanielsen6009]

I´m sure you´re going to be a fantastic plumber. :)

So Sabrina, how is Yours plans going?

[@TinyMK1]

@@MrJackal43 Wow, umm... hmm. I think your comment may be just a tad bit unnecessary, LOL.

[@santtosharya]

All the best Sabrina! 👍🏻

[@TinyMK1]

@CarlosChip Morales LOL, your comment was certainly very encouraging as well! ha

[@amirulsuhaimi6736]

Reading all your comments really gave me motivation. Knowing that I’m not alone in this battle of going out of immaturity and making sacrifices.

[@MasteryOrder]

To recognize your own immaturity is a sign of humility and growth. You are not alone, definitely. If you embarked on a journey of becoming a mature man, feel free to use the ideas that I share on the Mastery Order Channel to build yourself into the kind of man you would admire. All the best to you!

[@JimS870]

When I was 25 I had one of those "it hits you" moments when I realized I was in university to just be aimless and waste time and exist, and hope I somehow ended up with a job. I was super negative about the future throughout my 20's and just sat in class to be somewhere during the day. Then at 25, I remember a moment when I sat in the academic adviser's office and she told me I had wayyy more classes to go before I got my BA than I thought I did. It made me want to give up right then. So many people worked hard in my school and got great careers - I didn't. I was jealous but it wasn't their fault they were successful, it was my fault. After a day or two of drinking, a friend convinced me to keep going. I took summer courses, and motored through the rest of my coursework in under a year, working harder than I ever had before. I volunteered with a respected organization for work experience. I got my first job in the field that paid a menial salary, with terrible hours, but it paid. I worked there for a while doing the worst job at the worst shift, wanting to quit but never doing it. Then I got a better job, and a better job. By having that "Oh no, I've wasted my life," moment at 25, I turned things around in a couple years' time. I turned my outlook from negative to positive and made a lot of lasting impressions on co workers, employers, clients. I've known some people who are inching north of 30 who I've reached back and tried to get jobs for, but they turn me down because they don't want to start from the bottom rung and expect the kind of job I worked years to get myself. But I suspect they haven't had that terrifying moment of "oh no I wasted my life." And I bet when you're 30+ it's much scarier than when you're 25.

[@timmeagher2687]

How long is a BA in the US? You'd have your first BA by 22 in ireland!

[@crassbmt]

@@timmeagher2687 same in the US im guessing they started a bit late or maybe didn't make the best academic decisions like my self. years go by quick. I transferred switched majors and dropped out twice but I'll be graduating next semester at age 25 like op

[@jarradhurley4866]

I am 30, and this resonates with me. I haven't got any particular qualifications and I actually don't know what I want or where to start.

[@mgtowarena9636]

Jarrad, Meh... women absolved themselves from their traditional gender roles back in the 70s and the responses to that are: "you go girl" "strong independent women" "female empowerment" "future is female" thus... I have no qualms with my child man status as I have absolved myself of traditional gender roles. I do have my own business, house, etc, but I refuse to be the male workhorse who is not appreciated.

[@SteezySteve760]

Jarrad Hurley at least you've realized it.

[@MsLenaCali]

Jarrad Hurley I didn’t know what I wanted to do either. So I took an aptitude test which pointed me towards healthcare. I did the schooling and am now a surgical nurse. That time of restriction (schooling and the start of a career) will eventually open you up to more opportunities. You can do this.

[@adamwalkeraw]

I'm 32 and just off heroin and decided to start studying maths and physics and going to night classes.ive done my first year and it was one of the best decisions I have ever had.just pick something you love even if it's a ridiculous outside shot,wait till u see what doing an hour a day does.go for it man,u can do it I promise

[@jasonhaveten5608]

Jarrad Hurley I would ask someone for help. To give a guiding hand

[@linkscape1957]

"If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice." -Rush 2112

[@linkscape1957]

@v- r-m holy smokes we got a keyboard commando in the house?

[@linkscape1957]

@v- r-m ? Ok as soon as I hook up with the cool homeless people in the park dancing like mutant zombies to edm music post Antifa Riot?

[@sleepypanda8578]

My man-child 50 year old uncle says this. He's as immature as it gets Lol (no offense)

[@Jordan-cd3ce]

fyi that track's on Permanent Waves, not 2112

[@alextrujillo1613]

Just turned 28 6’2 have my own business(5 years and still not very profitable) I go to the gym I dress well I consider myself to be an attractive guy, never had an issue with the ladies until recently I have nothing to show for, No serious girlfriend, still live with my parents, only 1 friend who I rarely see now, little to no social life, I always feel anxious now and completely lost all the time, Jordan is right when he says adopt responsibility my parents have provided everything for me up to this point. I have this deep burning desire to feel my age and adopt responsibility and grow up but I don’t know where to start. Life of tough

[@alexkarasz6186]

At 42 I wish I'd discovered this video at 32. I could have had a great plumbing business by now!

[@jiggajigjones8210]

You can do it bud. Im 41 and believe in you!

[@Gu1d-0]

I'm 102 and I believe in you nigga

[@todd77777772000]

Easier then it sounds. Someone else with cheap labor from Mexico will under bid or under price you so you would have to be cheap as well which will make your economic growth slow down.

[@chrisnichols6962]

Ray Kroc bought a hamburger stand at 52...keep pushing!

[@conejodemercurio6301]

@@Gu1d-0 lol

[@mattozx6rr]

100% truth. you need to take the time to figure it out when your young. The penalty is very real and painful. At 49 I am living the words to "Fade To Black". Yes I have a good paying job and a life but neither are what I would call fulfilling. More like slave to the grind. Figure yourself out ASAP and chase your dreams. You get one life. Live it the way you want or suffer a lifetime of torment.

[@GeorgeMonet]

Well you could wind up suffering a lifetime of torment either way.

[@makemeajmod]

Life is pain

[@treyhightower875]

God, people are just a bunch of whiny little bitches.

[@Kate-ns1od]

I don't understand why people expect fulfillment from their jobs? You can have a job and still chase your dreams, you just have to be proactive. The issue isn't that the job/life isn't fulfilling, usually the issue is that people use their lives/jobs/etc.. as an excuse rather than admit to themselves that they are too lazy or unambitious to achieve more.

[@TacticsTechniquesandProcedures]

Kan k why is there always some piece of s*** that comes on some comment like this and has to say oh you've given everything to your job know but you actually need to give more...why dont u just go f*** yourself?

[@guytitanic]

Never lose your child like fascination to explore.

[@painexotic3757]

Yep. This is why people becoming boring/bland. They fall into the ageism expectations of feeling they should have to act a certain way to be a "real" adult. Become cookie cutter sheep and wonder why they go through a midlife crisis. Won't have to go through a midlife crisis if you followed your dreams in the first place and not societal ageist expectations!

[@tharunmalayil2332]

It had to be lost then found again...

[@edwardgaines6561]

In that case, never be afraid to take a risk. I was afraid for 6 years, then I got my first gray hair. Life will march on, with or without you.

[@danzigvssartre]

I agree. The best advise I was ever given was from my father who said that the secret to living a happy life is to just be interested in things. Just be interested.

[@t100base]

@pain you mean like sitting with your legs cross wearing cowboy boots?

[@nothomelessonyoutube]

Im 27 about to turn 28, I always knew I was being a man child especially at 25 I really started to see it. Because I paid attention to my dad and realized I was becoming him. I might have been smarter and more self aware than him. I was still becoming him. So I went homeless on purpose in a new city. Became home in my own skin, workered jobs, had the last relationship with a young women. Now going to trade school and work as a server for 9 months. A lot can happen in just a year once you really start applying yourself. It's not to late to start, but starting now is better than starting later. Move away from your parents dude, they are keeping you down on purpose.

[@Ozzianman]

Hahaha, mum would kick me out if I stayed home and did nothing. She was living by herself at 16 yo and encourages me to take risks. I have been through Norwegian High School (doubles as trade school here), 2 year apprenticeship, 2 year vocational school which grants General Study Competency. I tried to go for a top up year to get a bachelor degree, but flunked out. Been working IT the last two years saving up money I am moving out next year for Uni. Going to spend 3 years in a different city. This time, I am not failing and I will fight tooth and nail to avoid that.

[@croy2032]

I saw this and became a plumber

[@minamatta1116]

Congrats to you 😁

[@bonbonpony]

Those damn pipes won't unclog themselves, right? :J And I guess there's a lot of hot women just waiting for a plumber ;>

[@utubedestroysmytime]

@@bonbonpony honestly it's so much more. Try building a house without a plumber . Or repairing your gas line, having the license so your repair passes inspection,plumb a whole 100k project from the sewer line up you know....and charge you $120 to do something you can get done for $50 if you have balls....

[@ArturMcCloud]

I took up electrician this year, will become qualified at 30

[@mezlandia]

@@ArturMcCloud Way to go :)

[@TheHounddog2020]

"If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice" RUSH Freewill.

[@labornurse]

I love me some Rush.

[@samtraygis1337]

I always wondered why I never heard jbp mention rush being that they are all canadian

[@SethMoodyinersphobia]

Dude, people are quoting everyone but Rush about this. Thank you.

[@michaeldiaz5473]

And if young Nigel says he's happy then he must happy.......in his world.we are just making plans for him. His future is as good as sealed!

[@dexterford8264]

Choose Your Sacrifice

[@drawmaster77]

no. The only way to win is not to play.

[@Difficultfuckhead]

Gay rage will destroy us all.

[@stt.9433]

or take LSD to escape you existential crisis and wake up as a 70 year old hobo begging for money on the streets.

[@cholulahotsauce6166]

My damn sacrifice, rather. There's a proverb in which god says to mankind, "Take what you want, and pay for it". Truest statement I've ever read.

[@cholulahotsauce6166]

Difficultfuckhead Don't be difficul... Oh.

[@kphamcao]

Someone said when you're 30 you get the first glimpse of your own mortality. Very true saying. I'm 31 now and I realise no more time to play around, it's time to get serious and narrow down and achieve your life goal.

[@marijandesin8226]

"You can go to university to not be something, instead of going to university to be something." Jordan B. Peterson

[@Cal-md1et]

Use to work as an engineer, made good money but was super depressed. Quit and moved to Asia to teach English. Life so much better. Rather be happy than a pillar of the community

[@JacopoSkydweller]

That's just it though: You are a pillar of community, just a different community and a different kind of pillar.

[@raffiequler7510]

The penis, not the pillar of the community.

[@kinocchio]

Raffie Quler Thailand?

[@jayerbee7147]

I did the reverse, taught in china realized it sucked, then moved back to the states.

[@erichzahn3926]

What about the tragic story of darth plagus the wise ?

[@Zeppelin9113]

Lmfaoooooo I'm dead

[@MonstrotousM666]

It's not a story the Jedi would tell you

[@jiggajigjones8210]

It was a surprise...a welcome one to be sure.

[@henriktamminen7438]

That's another story for another time

[@justinm4497]

hahaha i was literally just thinking of something star-warsy to say, and you just said it.

[@oliverhering7312]

To my subjective perception Dr. Peterson is the greatest and most motivating speaker of our time. All of us non-native english speakers listening to him, are blessed to have learned this language in terms of understanding such creative thinking. Thank you for speaking out, what many of us are not capable of ❤

[@Frankya92]

Everything he said is true, except I didn’t start changing my issues until 25. Let’s just say it’s been extremely depressing and unbearably frustrating. The problem with this way of thinking is that you don’t get to see how bad your problems are, especially if you’ve never tackled them, until you have no choice but to see it. Not to mention establishing healthy relationships with people or even dating. The way I grew up was very detrimental to who I am now, and my dysfunctional, sheltering family sure don’t or won’t understand how or why. It sucks that the individual has to do all the hard work from all the reprogramming in adulthood, but that’s life. No support, just figure it out because no one cares and society is ugly

[@dasunit07]

Exactly my situation too

[@GreenLeafUponTheSky]

Human society is at an early stage, we haven't been around for long on Earth. We still have those that behave like apes and give in to greed, lust, emotion. It's every person for themselves instead of all for one. It's why nations and borders exist, racism, etc.

[@jobrakai9395]

@@GreenLeafUponTheSky The hell are you talking about??? Civilization has been around for a fucking millennium. And don’t give me this shit about racism, you’ve been watching too much shit on the news. These issues come from parents not doing their job, and not making kids strong, you’re out of your depth man

[@komorebi4045]

Im 22 and exactly the same

[@dbishop4761]

I wish I knew this at 20.. Because I feel like I failed life at 33.. I never learned anything ... They need to teach this stuff in High school

[@iannesby]

Well your 33 and your unhappy. Go chase the thing that your interests usually push you towards.

[@alexaguilar8546]

They wont. Because high schools are part of this business. They sell identities, so teaching you that everything is sacrificial, no matter you go to college or not in order to get yourself through adolescence and finally adulthood would be the equivalent of a very popular medicine advertizing itself with all the counter effects on the TV. Everything about them is business and power.

[@doubled6256]

D Bishop but you still have a chance. Life has directed you to a possibility of a new beginning, take it with both hands, fearlessly!

[@mr.westin1313]

Just a thought: if you woke up from a ten year coma at 33, would you consider the last ten years a waste of time? Would you still think of yourself as a failure? Hell no you wouldn’t. You’d be damn grateful to be alive and have plenty of time left to live. So get out there and learn what you want. Do what you want. Be what you want. The best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago, the second best time to plant a tree is right now.

[@sultanjelle9168]

My uncle stopped drinker at 31. Was a doctor by 40. Now he’s the happiest person I know. It’s NEVER too late dude

[@immortaljanus]

"Kill the boy, Jon Snow, and let the man be born."

[@Elimbi1]

immortaljanus best quote ever

[@MrSERGEANT100]

Not religious but love saying it: Amen.

[@RauMichael]

Roughly speaking

[@JohnSmith-ox3gy]

immortaljanus You have to kill the past.

[@iamchannelll]

It's not about killing the boy ... it's about just growing up and allowing urself to move forward to be able to develop yourself instead of being in arrested development

[@cmja09]

My maturity hit me at 26. Age 15 until 25, I've already given up on women and planned to establish a life full of video gaming, home theatre, home music studio, home gym, sports, etc. Then I achieved all these and now learning the correct mindset and social skills in order to attract the ones I'm attracted to.

[@stoomtrein1635]

Props to you. I'm 22 and just had a divine masculine awakening and have been working behind my desk all day for the last month. Keep up the good work.

[@DevoidVoid]

There is no mindset besides being "you". Legit. Anything else leads to bad relationship.

[@tysswe1]

Im not going to lie. This is me. 26 years old. And my brother. And i know of several others in the same position. I personally know of 5 others, ranging from their early 20s even to the 30's who live at home. The neighboors daughter is in her 40s and live at home. My personal story, is that i have suffered from anxiety and depression, still do and that makes things hard, some days worse then others. Why is this? What is causing this? I try to be positive, but i cant see anything that gives me energy or motivation. I feel like there is something wrong with modern society. In the past it was normal for people to live with their families. And in the Mediterranean nations it still is. In some nations over 50% of adults from 24 to 35 live at home. They must have it so easy mentally. Anyone who have any words of comfort or advice? Because i feel lost.

[@XerxesIsHisCharade]

I find focusing on gratitude for what you do have, with love and kindness towards those who surround you and support you, is a powerful antidote to anxiety and depression. If you live at home, be happy that you have that opportunity to spend time with your family, and express that. Meditation also calms the mind and stops the excessive comparisons to others and helps you relax and remain equanimous in the face of a changing (or unchanging) reality.

[@junior911m]

There's nothing wrong with living at home. The question is: what are you doing while living at home? If you're unemployed, then you should be looking for work. Home and family are supposed to help you get on your feet if you've been knocked down for some reason. But you should have a goal that you're working towards. And eventually, you should strive to be able to support your family in return after what they've done for you.

[@millenialmuscle1505]

Follow @Millennial.muscle on and instagram and send a dm. You will be pleasantly surprised

[@evanpresto]

Its a real western society perception of success, to leave home early and live away while working and moving up the employment ladder, you made a great point that countries in the Mediterranean do not have a similar view on success, I lived in Spain for a year and saw children in their 30s living at home, their parents were happy to have them in the house as their children continued to make it a home, these countries do not see success as the same thing as we western societies do, they focus more on family relationships, happiness, food and enjoyment and it is evident from my opinion that they suffer from less mental disorders and problems such as depression and anxiety that people in their 20s in western society suffer from through imaginary pressures to be "successful". I currently live in the US and am planning to return to my parents house in Ireland, I feel being here (and I have been here for 2 years) has proven some level of western society's version of success ie, living away from parents and working. I think Maryam also makes a good point that it really depends on what you are doing at home, ie if you are unemployed and doing drugs then yes you need to look in the mirror and make some changes, but if you are working while supporting your parents I think there is nothing wrong with living at home, I think most parents would prefer it as I do not know the facts but I wonder how many parents suffer from loneliness and depression themselves when their children leave they are left in the large 5 bedroom semi detached house that now is a home for two people?

[@junior911m]

@@evanpresto Well said! I 100% agree. And I'm sure parents suffer from loneliness and depression after their children move away. We're not meant to neglect our aging parents when we become adults. We're meant to support them. I find a lot of people neglect their aging parents in care homes because they're escaping from their responsibilities. But we (not governments or societies) we are responsible for one another, esp for our own families.

[@UtahStories]

Great message! I know five “men” who don’t want to choose to sacrifice and are now greatly suffering in their prolonged adolescence.

[@ichiagou]

wait, so is it really a "sacrifice" if they needed to do it to prevent their suffering in prolonged adolescence?

[@Defender78]

There are several friends and acquaintances that I have who either just keep enrolling in wellness classes to put off having to get a job, or think that they can earn a living by teaching guitar part time, or to have low stress jobs and expect to make good bank, or to just do Uber and pretend that they are “professionals“. Some of these people are in such denial about their college loans, about their possibility of having to get a part-time job because they feel it’s beneath them, yet they want to spend and wine and dine and shop to keep up the illusion that they have “made it”. They should rather take notes from their peers who actually do monitor their own finances and live below their means.

[@CheechWizard22]

I completely agree with Peterson here. The modern world has definitely given rise to new challenges about how to structure your life and your career. The impact of the internet is just something that previous generations could not have predicted, and thus were unable to teach the young how to not fall into the traps that are set for the current generation. People are having to navigate this new age of constant distraction via social media, having too much choice (with alot of these 'choices' being shallow tricks in reality), and basically having to contend with the weight of the worlds problems on your conscience 24/7. Its no surprise that people retreat to virtual worlds (video games and internet bubbles) to escape from it all, and end up procrastinating in periods of suspended maturity. The internet, and the inevitable globalisation of the world that comes with it, is taking casualties. And these casualties come in the form of highly intelligent people, that most likely would have flourished 50 years ago, becoming these modern day man children. That being said, its hard to put complete blame on people who do this with their lives in a way. Because the so called 'careers' that most people have nowadays are equally dull and unfulfilling. One man taps mindless data into a computer at work, the other presses mindless buttons on his playstation controller. The office 9-5 that is most peoples work reality is not attractive at all to actually intelligent and self aware people. So theres a lack of aspiration forming here. Its part of a bigger problem that technology provides where we are moving too far away from the physical side of life. We are in a state where our bodies are under stimulated and our minds are over stimulated. And it feeds back into this loop that gives rise to mental instability at a younger age, preventing this generation from sewing the seeds that will help them fulfill their potential.

[@scoodler]

I have a physically demanding job right now working in a plant nursery. Although it has its challenges, (physical exhaustion, risk of injury and sun exposure), it still beats the hell out of the 9-5 office job. I'm tired when I get home, but it's a more satisfying tired and my mind is much more awake overall. If I can get to the point where I can work four days instead of five days a week, that would be ideal. I have another part time job as well as an artist so that would create a nice balance between the two.I think that finding the right job or career is the most important thing you can do in life. It affects everything else that you do and how you approach it - including the way you view other people in relationships.

[@CheechWizard22]

It sounds like you've found the right balance. And thats what life is all about.

[@mikeschnobrich9694]

So turning off the computer and plant a garden next spring wouldn't take care of most the traps. I am missing how anyone is trapped. People that work dull low skill jobs probably have more fun at work than anyone else. The form clubs, plan picnics, gossip about crazy lady's new boyfriend, complain about the new telephones in the break room. The job you describe is missing the people sitting next to you. There's a small part of a book about some Virginian or some such person I read about years ago that reminded me how it sounded like the world you described. Its the part of the story where is for some unknown reason, probably caused by PTSD from the civil war, decided to head out west and really struggled to get there. And on the day he arrived in some cattle or mining town, they are all the same anyway, as the train pulled into some dinky station, he saw through the window world that glowed. He gets a little carried away and its interesting and all to read but I just couldn't get over the fact that this goof was seeing stuff that just wasn't real. The place was just weeds and some dumb buildings that we all know probably had rats somewhere ready to bit. I still don't get it, he must have been doing drugs or something to looking at an empty cowboy shanty town thinking it was new and worth all the bother to get there. Besides, didn't he know it was all stolen land anyway. You tell about the world like it is, not the world like this cowboy dreamer on the crazy train sees thing. He is probably on of those man-children, just a little ahead of his time. Thanks for the really interesting post.

[@levansegnaro4637]

Mike Schnobrich not stolen land, conquered

[@Deliquescentinsight]

One thing you are leaving out from this enormous gift of the internet-it is something our grandparents could never have imagined, having the power to reach billions of people at scale, without having to pay expensive middlemen, the costs of building your own business was astronomical in 1930, 1950 e.t.c TV/Radio/Newspaper advertising was expensive and only reached local markets. We have won the lottery but so many just do not recognize this, as a digitally literate and skilled 60 year old I know this.

[@iFrazie]

I literally cry when he said you can be 25 and idiot. Makes me feel much better that I’m 26 and trying get my life together

[@franingegnieri1831]

Its very common man, we're all in this together and at least you're trying and giving your best

[@BigBoyYsel]

Hope you've come far. Don't forget that words like that can be harming also. Like it's giving a reason to take a break or to rationalize going back to bad habits. Take care!

[@Lee69911]

I'd still rather hear the Tragic Story of Darth Plagueis The Wise.

[@HermannTheGreat]

lol

[@RaawHax]

Is it possible to learn this power?

[@Luke-tt3dt]

It's not a story the Jordan would tell you.

[@teocharger]

You guys are top notch! :D

[@saemushailstorm3135]

a myth even within sw canon

[@mariaharitopoulos3557]

I love that I did an apprenticeship at 30. Best thing ever. I'm 50 now and it defines me. Had I not done it, I would still be living at home with my mum.

[@mustbemeech]

Lmao that’s all you took from this lecture 😂

[@reykjavik9187]

@@mustbemeech What's wrong with drawing that conclusion? It resonates well with what JP said. I don't get it.

[@mustbemeech]

@@reykjavik9187 yeah it was an ignorant comment of mine.

[@fleetcomm1]

I’ve been greatly fortunate in that at age 50 then 57 and again at 60 my life began anew. Not perfect, very challenging but extremely satisfying. But I love to learn and take on change.

[@lev237]

Before you start feeling bad about yourself - remember that at the end of the day, happiness is what counts. All those years you were playing videogames and hanging out with your friends - this time is NOT wasted. You may feel regret about those years if you suddenly decide to buy a house and start a family (feeling of lost profit), but guess what - house and kids don't guarantee happiness either. I know plenty of married "grown-up" people who are miserable, angry and bitter all the time. Growing up on q doesn't guarantee happiness and there's no single "correct" way to live your life. If you feel it's time for a change - great, go for it. Don't be greedy with time, accept your past and move on. Also, finding your purpose is much, much more important and more productive than blindly imitating an adult.

[@brother_of_bruh]

Thank you brother, words very well spoken

[@ParksRec]

Well said

[@sirClogg]

5:30 "you can go to university to not be something" boy, is it nice to finally hear someone else publicly voice this fact. Skipping university gave me such a head start over my classmates who all went to study this or that just to be able to not take responsibility for their lives just yet. Have someone else making artificial hoops and problems they "have to face and stress about" in the safety of the environment they have known since 7 years old.. And everyone keeps repeating that degree is important while my experience shows that might be true only for medicine and perhaps a handful of other industries none of them chose to pursue.

[@victoriannecastle]

Nahh College is important but people should be aware it's not the life. You don't get there to find a stable job or a good future. You are there to use the excess and free time to do your passions-music, writing. I did write in libraries and skipped my classes. College is also important for some since their priority there are hookups and alcohol.

[@sirClogg]

@@victoriannecastle ok, fair. The connections you can make in the uni, might come in handy. Weather for romantic or professional purposes (still you can achieve the same effect by placing your tinder location over a school of your choosing). But is it really worth 3 or 5 or how many years you could have spent building real life experience? (just look at some memes, how many people are surprised and angry they are expected to have experience when looking for job :D they are in their 30's, fresh out of school, first time looking for employment and they just can't wrap their head around how come someone expects them to have experience. Why that's what you ought to have if you choose a career where title is not an automatic invitation.

[@victoriannecastle]

@@sirClogg In their 30s and first time looking for an employment? Which country is that? It makes me feel slightly better

[@sirClogg]

@@victoriannecastle Czechia. But I think it goes for most of the western civilization. If someone leaves their parent's house before 20 (student houses paid for by parents don't count) it's usually because of some abuse :D

[@richardmccabe2392]

While universities can cause students to delay taking responsibility for various aspects of their lives, I don't think it's fair to imply that all students go to university just to give themselves artificial obstacles and pretend they're stressed out like everyone else. Most students go to university because they actually have an interest or passion in a subject they want a career in. And to disregard the stresses of uni is foolish because the consequences of failing university is dire - you end up having no degree and thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars/pounds debt to pay for it. Degrees are important FOR careers that require degrees. Anyone who says degrees are important in general are being nonsensical..

[@edwardgaines6561]

The problem with potential is, you can be both something and nothing. It depends on your self-worth and drive. If a man is meant to drown, he'll drown. Even in a cup of water.

[@firstsliveone1]

Who said this?

[@tonymac5546]

Potential as a very seductive thing, eluding reality forever grasping

[@nealm6764]

Your post is so contradictory. You start off well, but then fall back to some lazy excuse. "if" and "meant to" is the thinking of losers. Make your own reality and destiny. If you don't want to drown in a cup of water learn to frigging swim, or stay away from water etc. and if you do bloody well drown in a cup of water anyway, at least you took charge of your life and didn't just sit around thinking your efforts didn't matter. Which is a big deal. You got people sitting around thinking "If I am meant to be successful it will manifest itself in my life." NO! It won't. You got to go out there and work for it man! The example is so ridiculous any way. Do you know of anyone who has drowned in a cup of water? I sure as hell don't. Examples like that are usually "hit by a bus" or something like that. Like it is all for naught because you could just be hit by a bus tomorrow. Well no, not really. I can stop jaywalking. I can look both ways before I cross. I can move to the country etc. I can control my destiny to a large extent. And if some bus just plows into my kitchen while I am eating dinner, well at least I was in charge of my life instead of sitting around making excuses.

[@akaGiNX]

Man I need serious motivation to sort out my life. Edit: Wow guys.

[@levijohnson3291]

akaGiNX look into his future authoring program.

[@levijohnson3291]

It's helped me.

[@dsbum]

Don't wait for motivation. Motivation comes and goes, and its out of your control. Take charge of your life and just do it. Discipline > Motivation.

[@samlloyd672]

Nofap. Nofap. Nofap.

[@proxyXIII]

Clean your room everyday. Small steps.

[@jameshusentoff2953]

My friend is the biggest man child. He was a teacher for a year and then quit and said he wanted to ease back into it. It’s been a decade and he is still substituting 2 times a week.

[@TheDoctornaut]

18-25 has been one helluva ride

[@SlayPlenty]

I'm still on the road..will i become something?

[@delailama736]

Yep, I'm turning 28 and I feel the same way. I guess you just gotta learn from the "wasted" years.

[@DrVein]

At 23 I'm nearing the end of it and I honestly feel great. No, I do not have a fortune 500 company paying for my beach house in Costa Rica. I do however have a plan and an idea, and that shit is lethal.

[@cristicristi2668]

share that idea, you can succeed with it in your country, I'll do it in mine

[@the_iron_ninja]

Im with you brother man.

[@Justin_Joy]

Tinker bell is like an anime girl. *SHE DOESN'T EXIST*

[@artski09]

yet all we need is funding

[@ryllo2886]

@@artski09 anime girls SHOULDN'T exist

[@beaverincisor]

@@artski09 smells like man-feathers around here

[@lanceroark6386]

But if those tits were real....

[@spookyghost3209]

VULKAN LIVES!!!!

[@lordgrim1798]

*“Tik-Tok gay”* - Gandhi

[@assistanttotheregionalmana3002]

Hahahaha

[@MH-yc5pr]

One of many famous quotes by Gandhi

[@assistanttotheregionalmana3002]

ADVITY COMRADE hahahaha

[@kenburns4547]

Tick-Tock Tech: clock engineering school

[@wolveraspeaks]

Pfft!! Bastard... Now I have to wipe off my computer.

[@meatpopsicle_45]

I commented on this video when I was 26 with something like: "Oh, boy" Now I'm 33 and here's my new comment: "Oh, boy..."

[@Crazyninja30]

holy shit, im grateful im hearing this at 24. and i needed some reassurance and a push in the right direction.