Bittercold Showdown Wrong? Winterclash 2023, Calling Out Lino, Female Challenges in Rollerblading

[@faustinaosude1]

Blading and comedy, two of my favourite things. I am laughing into next week 😂🙏🏽

[@TomMoyse]

Thank you Faustina! Really appreciate the support! 🤝🏻😀

[@eigengrau1]

And both on a top-tier level..! Tom is a real rascal ;D

[@fullframepro]

Billy's reaction to the spotlight in his eyes is classic. Love it.

[@TomMoyse]

Haha so good. Worked perfect for the video as well. Cj laughing was a touch!

[@austinpaz2174]

i just got to the part with me 😂 that was definitely misleading info i got while i was there that eugen cleared up after that video happened. It's all been cleared up now ❤

[@TomMoyse]

Hahaha Eugen set you up! Trying to enjoy a slice of pizza while he’s talking about see-saws and magic frames. We all got there in the end 😁🤝🏻🧡

[@lauricpicard4963]

Mad respect to Luke skating he was absolutely killing it but i was there in person and Cudot was just in another world. He def shouldve won no questions asked.

[@pabloporta9635]

Personally I like Luke skatings more than Julien Cudot's, but I agree with you, Cudot was dominating the entire time

[@jessysurya94]

Cudot should’ve won no debate… maybe they have to make the comp rules more clear next time about big trick or style… so what is big trick for? 😅

[@texassky9706]

Thank you for the discussion of female representation. PLEASE HEAR THIS MAN skate brands!!! For the LOVE, more ladies represented will be such an encouragement for young girls. I'd love to see that.

[@TomMoyse]

My pleasure! Needs talking about way more

[@Habeev07]

Cudot is insane. He and Atkinson are such a joy to watch. Jaro Frijn was a suprise. I remember him tearing it up on the FISE tour a few years back. He is what only 19 still? Maybe 20? Dude is hella young. The future is bright. So many good yound skaters.

[@TomMoyse]

Lots of good young rippers coming through. Imagine Jay Yoon at Winterclash

[@austinpaz2174]

haha that dr evil spotlight reference was the best

[@TomMoyse]

Haha that bit worked out well

[@moomoochacoo]

Chyna needs a pro skate, Period. shes been on a tear since she was 11. I remember seeing her destroy 11 years ago at BCSD, and she wasn't even competing.

[@TomMoyse]

I believe Clark is going to make it happen

[@kevincollins8620]

​@@TomMoyseI back this. Thank you Clark. I've been asking for a decade. Wish Blading treated her like skateboarding and adidas Nora. Makes sure she gets product she rips Sad it's finally happening after years of dominance.

[@Megazord716]

Excellent vid! As a woman who's been skating since she had a fresh pair of Salomon STi Pros strapped to her feet (I'm 37 now) I really appreciate the time you gave the women skaters in this vid along with your support. It's true more girls need to get involved in this sport but without proper visibility it just wont happen. I still skate and hope that when a little girl sees me at the park or wherever that they get curious to give it a go themselves. Cheers, mate!

[@TomMoyse]

Thanks for the kind words. I agree visibility is so important. Relatability is so key. Females should feel like rollerblading offers them a welcome place. 🤝🏻

[@radram7198]

Get some videos up of you shredding, would love to see it 👍

[@TomMoyse]

@@radram7198 check my KZbin shorts

[@Dave-ds3vo]

Fabian taught me how to front side stall and drop in fakie a couple of months back.. had no idea he was an up and coming pro until i saw him on the live stream weeks later! was rooting for him and glad he won! Chill dude and impressive to watch skate in person, makes it look easy man

[@TomMoyse]

He has amazing flow! An incredible talent

[@user-tz7zr9fj5k]

Thank you for calling out Lino on this. If one of my friends threatened to hurt another one of my friends I would not stay neutral. Someone who would is questionable to say the least.

[@TomMoyse]

Yes, this situation baffles me

[@randywade4008]

@@TomMoyse did you see Bill Stoppard is switching skates?

[@TomMoyse]

@@randywade4008 yes - He’s also previously made a statement about his relationship with Adapt.

[@AngeliaBaladon]

Tom, I can't give enough props for the work you're doing and the person you are!!

[@TomMoyse]

Thank you Angie! That means a lot to me.

[@juancsmix]

rent, moral compass, fiat 500, non stick frying pan, sneaking in beer... I've done a little core workout with this video

[@TomMoyse]

Haha 😁🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

[@james-ted-garland]

Was great to say hello at Winterclash. Hope to see you again next year!

[@TomMoyse]

Thanks mate - really appreciate that. Cool to meet ya. 🙌🏻

[@higgy1726]

2:53 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@TomMoyse]

Hahaa

[@skatesam_gh]

The adapt bit... Yo! How do you come up with these lines... Always a good laugh... 😂😂😂😂😂

[@TomMoyse]

Thanks dude

[@maneotis4g63t]

That's exactly right. Hometown hero. Had that home field advantage.

[@TomMoyse]

🙌🏻

[@shawngeanakakis1050]

Good vid, great points all around. Your cast of bcsd was gold too. One point I'll disagree with here was your take on Austin pazs bit on the suspension wheels- his point was that as set 1+2 go up, your skate tilts down, as 3+4 go up your skate tilts up, making the entire skate like a seesaw, not each group of wheels as two seesaws per blade. Keep it up, subbed!

[@TomMoyse]

Cheers man- really appreciate that. Got you on the frames - either way Austin misunderstood and later said admitted it haha

[@Rbskater12000]

Lol you were critical in this one Tom! But I loved it. Keep up the great work!

[@TomMoyse]

Cheers mate

[@SingaporeSkaterSam]

I’m not your target audience, but the work you put into your videos is absolutely stunning. As to Lino, genius skater, 85 IQ.

[@TomMoyse]

Cheers mate really appreciate that

[@jokeyxero]

That's pretty much my thoughts too on BCSD. I only saw Naylor do like 2-3 cool things, but all I had was irollerboot's stream for most of it. Savage and Jesus were both doing way more stuff that was edit worthy I thought. But Ima just trust the judges and the crowd. I wanted to root for my man Tre, but he wasn't going big like the podium crew. I appreciated Edward's stream so much too, but didn't find it until much later. So happy I could watch any stream though.

[@jacobbloom_md]

Tom put it pretty well when he said the stream took a bit of the vibe away. I was there and the whole room knew it was Luke who won.

[@TomMoyse]

Edward came through!

[@MBommeli]

thanks for using footage and link it in the video description 👌

[@TomMoyse]

Cheers mate - You’ve been doing wonders with the footage!

[@Pratalax]

After a fair bit more footy is out, i feel like you know what your duty is: BCSD '23 Slip'n'slide edition. That little cut you made there was just too tantalising!

[@TomMoyse]

hahah could be good

[@tommymclaughlin-artist]

Absolutely baffled that Fabiola doesn't have a pro-skate. No one has been deserving of it for as long as she has.

[@TomMoyse]

Yes. Let’s hope someone make the right move

[@royalwithcheese1768]

People on social media keep saying , ‘just wait for the edits and you’ll see all of Luke’s tricks.’ None show anything crazy aside from his quarter to quarter switch ups. Watched the live podcast and Julien, Joey and even Zach landed more tricks on more obstacles,

[@TomMoyse]

🤷🏼‍♂️. Think they were saying it was down to those last 10mins. It doesn’t seem to be translating to the edits very well

[@FR-AN]

Having criticised Ben's livestream of Bittercold, you could've highlighted Lino's livestream of Winterclash. I think everyone on it did a sick job. And you could compensate a wee bit for the previously asserted blows. Great video though... Spotty Dog!

[@TomMoyse]

Fair point. In review I often find I’ve missed points I intended to make. I reply of this kind of feedback to keep me more on it. Winterclash stream production was great

[@stormcrow56k]

Naylor's skating was excellent but Cudot/Atkinson skated better

[@ROT8TED]

skating community is awesome and this event was legendary, its funny and also very sad for adapt...lots of incredibly talented skaters on winterclash this year...

[@TomMoyse]

Winterclash was bonkers

[@Ghettocommunity1]

Love this show ❤

[@TomMoyse]

Thanks man! Zack was unreal! I’ve linked your vid in the description! Hope you enjoy it at BCSD 🙌🏻

[@Ghettocommunity1]

@@TomMoyse upset he ain’t place top 3! It is what it is! And thanks for that! Appreciate you! 🤞🏽❤️

[@JonMurray]

Brilliant video mate. Superb. Had me laughing my head off too haha! New subscriber ✌🏻

[@TomMoyse]

Cheers mate! Appreciate that. 🤝🏻

[@JonMurray]

@@TomMoyse no worries mate! Finally the KZbin algorithm spits out a belter haha! Honestly man, I’m not trying to lick your arse. Absolutely superb video. So good to see everyone and all ages getting coverage and all the points you made were bang on. Definitely got me buzzing to drag the skates out and go hurt my old broken body hahaha!

[@07doddz07]

😆 Chris big kink farmer was me hahaha

[@TomMoyse]

Hahaha

[@josesalvadorguillen]

NOT Jon Julios DOUBLE DECKER HELMET LOL

[@TomMoyse]

Hahah

[@oliTarling]

james pond, jeez instance flashbacks

[@TomMoyse]

Classic

[@edwardtaylor5207]

James Pond..a truly excellent game. Oh and good vid

[@TomMoyse]

cheers matey

[@JustAnotherBlader]

The Adapt hardshell skate just looks off... it's a clean black design, how can you go wrong... yet somehow it still just looks gross to me. The RB flat frame had me pretty stoked though.

[@TomMoyse]

Hahah

[@dopetag]

14:16 what video are you referencing here? Trip rip? I could not find anything with this name.

[@manuever.blading]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/lX22hHVpZbhshMU

[@smashboy64]

The blading world is new to me so IDK if this question has been asked before or common it is, but who is the Tony Hawk of aggressive Skating? lol

[@shrimpupyourlife]

arguably Chris Haffey

[@Adam-M-]

I don't know that there's a singular name, but there are lots of talented skaters out there. I personally like Brian Freeman's (B Free) style and community efforts.

[@smashboy64]

@@Adam-M- I found about him through Braille's channel that guys awesome!

[@mathew.7139]

i would say Chris Haffey

[@ognjenstamenkovic8336]

​@@Adam-M- u sir are out of ur mind...

[@Igobyrik]

Holy shit the gI Joe throwback I still own that vhs

[@J3f3R20n]

Seeing those Livestreams i remember the infamous Arlo Eisenberg rant about Xgames where they apologize with boarders for having a blader recording their runs for TV... ALSO, what about Adapt and that thin soulplate called....hhmmm, "WZRD" but "HEY it's not Wizard alright? We a flat setup brand but we want to follow trends now but this is not for wizard skating mm'kay? " They did a whole mental gymnastics to not mention Wizard Skating while making a product for that lol

[@TomMoyse]

Hahaha

[@freshzinn]

I wanted Zack Savage to win BCSD so bad! Would've deserved!

[@TomMoyse]

He was smashing the place up

[@joestylesbx540]

The hit of the night at bitter cold was the Murdah Militia all sports pack super dope bag 💯✅✅✅✅

[@en-blanc-et-noir]

MINT episode! Good boy!

[@TomMoyse]

Haha thanks man

[@1joespray]

Jack Russel needs his sausages 😆

[@TomMoyse]

All that he wants is those sausages!

[@Steezococonutz]

yo, these edits are fuckin golden dude. real mint

[@adamblackburnblacky6493]

Hes sick isn't he Tom is my favorite youtuber

[@TomMoyse]

😁🧡

[@fizace]

alright, proper video. love it.

[@TomMoyse]

Cheers pals

[@xn-triq7607]

Fair play for calling out the "master piece collection" 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@TomMoyse]

haaha

[@xn-triq7607]

@@TomMoyse what are they thinking? They've literally purged 99% of their targeted consumer market 🥴😂 Elon Musk & Donald Trump may buy a pair, but that's about it 🤣

[@Attemptedfishing]

Check out my bittercold recap!! Not the greatest filming, was a wild final bittercold lol but I got some bangers

[@TomMoyse]

Will do man! Nice one for getting an edit out

[@methosb]

Merch idea: Serious Sausage t-shirts. Spotty Dog x Bacemint

[@TomMoyse]

Defo keen on a collab

[@austerberrys101]

Comedy gold, I'm always laughing watching ur vids, don't wanna say hometown advantage but from what I seen Cudot took the dub. But I aint no judge lol..Also I think the "Spotty Dog" invitational got a nice ring to it 👌 set it up..keep up the great work

[@TomMoyse]

Thanks dude, really appreciate the kind words. Cudot was wild'in and Joe and Zack. Luke was ripping out some amazing bits as well - buzzin that he won. The footage and edits were defo focusing on Joe an Cudot. Those judge know what they are do thou

[@austerberrys101]

@@TomMoyse being a Judge is tough and I guess you can't expect them to see every trick. Zack was like a spinning top 🤣🤣

[@TomMoyse]

@@austerberrys101 spins to everything he does. 720 while he brushing his teeth

[@austerberrys101]

@@TomMoyse 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@dynovfr]

amazing🤣🤣🤣

[@TomMoyse]

Cheers mate! 😁

[@nielsonwheelstilburg]

😆 👍 👊 thanks tom for another great video

[@TomMoyse]

Thanks mate - glad you enjoyed it

[@HumaneApproach]

Lool! The CCTV live stream made me concider the day after if i rather watch an edit only yeeah

[@TomMoyse]

I love’d that I could watch it live but the edits are wildly better. Looking back it was like a dodgy stream of a movie - putting getting up in the cinema and walking past and that haha

[@HumaneApproach]

Btw, TOM. About the support towards Alex Burst, daaaaaamn. Respect. :D

[@HumaneApproach]

@@TomMoyse Jajaja ofc. There is something about the live jaaaa. To get everything "like being there". But with angles more wort wasting the time on it.

[@jeremytroia7321]

Anyone who wasn't here missed why Luke won. Granted, I'm a Detroiter and he's a friend but still, Luke landed more consistently and was very technical, and still did some big tricks. Sure the others did more big airs and whatnot and Savage was on his way to victory but got hurt like halfway through the finals missing a 900 AOTP. Trust the judges, mates.

[@HappyTooth614]

I agree. The edits didn't capture how on fire he was and how worked up the crowd got. The 6 judges also said they unanimously decided he was the winner so if anyone's upset they should talk to the judges.

[@jeremytroia7321]

@@HappyTooth614 100% agree

[@devinsanders1488]

👏

[@ezrakhayyam5609]

Hello, thx for being the funniest blading reporter out there ^^ (subjective opinion, dont engage me on this ppl ;) PS: i cant find anything on the standardskateco on the internet, would you have a link or 2 up your sleeve ?

[@TomMoyse]

There is a link on their insta but there is nothing on the site right now - so pretty much no info

[@NoProHarrie]

Oi thanks for using my picture there bloke!

[@TomMoyse]

🤝🏻📷 thanks pal

[@BrandinHunter]

Being there, Luke won fair

[@devinsanders1488]

Factual

[@TomMoyse]

Good to hear some more opinions from the ground. Hope you enjoyed the event mate

[@jinxstayrdy]

4:39 rofl 🍳

[@moomoochacoo]

bruh, the Fiat joke....that got me.

[@TomMoyse]

Haha 🚗 i know what I’d buy if I actaully wanted to go anywhere

[@17BKS]

Top marks for the hospital stock photo 🙏. The way you pronounce it “A.M.s” instead of “Ams” (as in amateur)-is that one of those weird UK things? I don’t know why it grinds my gears so much, but it does 🤷‍♂️

[@that_which_is_not]

That’s a Tom thing! We say ‘ams’ in the UK ✌️

[@TomMoyse]

Probably just me. I prefer the sound. AMs are morning people you don’t turn Pro until the afternoon

[@devinsanders1488]

Wow!

[@TomMoyse]

How was it in real life?

[@donnelsereika6404]

To late was doing that level of tricks since I was 16 and I'm going on 29 Iv been skating since I was 6 I got this

[@TomMoyse]

Go on mate! Get out there and bag a win

[@kevincollins8620]

I played too many hours of James Pond Robo Cod. Game gear. Long trips.

[@TomMoyse]

Sick game

[@adamblackburnblacky6493]

Amiga was my console at the time I played it, but did also have a game gear, good shit

[@vincezywczak]

Naylor won because while everyone was hucking tricks that they barely had a chance at landing, he was doing a ton of tricks that he knew he could land and then threw three or four hammers down when it mattered. He honestly skated the comp as smartly as he could have after his first few tricks he attempted looked like he wouldn’t come close, he just moved on and it paid off for him.

[@jeremytroia7321]

well said, he paced himself and was hugely consistent in what he landed, which, were pretty gnarly tricks!

[@audiizestor]

Montre got robbed

[@mikestravels609]

I was there I thought joe won Julian 2 Zack 3 rd the spot lights built a crazy vibes with the announcer and the top guys getting a solo run yes probably hard to see .

[@cfronin]

Joe before Julian would have been a nice rhyme with the Winterclash and a fair result instead of this disgrace ...

[@krunkytv4353]

Link to Skates? Tryna support the channel if you got referral links. Cheers 🍻

[@TomMoyse]

No one seems to do them in rollerblading

[@krunkytv4353]

@@TomMoysereach out to the brands, Tom! You’d prolly kill it on referrals.

[@TomMoyse]

@@krunkytv4353will do mate, thanks for the idea

[@gargamel3393]

Those new skates you mentioned that are over-priced are ugly as sin. I feel the same way about the Them brand. Don't get me wrong, I have great respect for John Julio and all he has done for rollerblading, but damn those things are butt ugly. The styles have def. changed. Great video as always, Tom. You always keep it informative and funny at the same time. It's a true talent.

[@TomMoyse]

Haha fair enough, good to have different tastes out there and products for it. Cheers for the kind words. I like to keep the vids as natural as possible 🙌🏻

[@rickydangler]

Luke Naylor!!!!

[@TomMoyse]

Big Luke taking the WIN! Buzzin' for him

[@jenkims1953]

Absolutely rollerblading does not need Adapt and we do not need to support a company that is so petty, if you care about the culture you don't care about Adapt. Skaters are the forefront that demonstrate the sport we don't need people threatening the skaters that not only represent the sport but also the company they skated for.

[@TomMoyse]

🙌🏻🙌🏻🫡

[@NoProHarrie]

Ba Na Nas

[@TomMoyse]

Always

[@philipshields7028]

If Zach hadn't fallen he would have won

[@TomMoyse]

Zach was going for it! The clips I’ve seen of him were nuts

[@Kevhoe]

Per the rules, falling wasn’t penalized. Terrible judging

[@SpeedCuber2016]

What exactly happened with Ricardo? I haven’t really kept up with any skate stuff in about a year

[@TomMoyse]

Supporting a guy that allegedly threatened a teenager - the guy in question also said they would do it again. There is a couple of videos floating about that cover the story. One on my channel as well.

[@dfcvda]

*imagery

[@TomMoyse]

🎨

[@Brianmatthewlewis]

🐶

[@TomMoyse]

🐶🍰

[@pouringblue7]

Pieter just needs to adapt to the situation and say sorry. Sales will go up by 11.5% if he does so. Then after he apologizes he can do it again! That's a 23% of sale increase! Will make up for the 1350 euro skates that will remain on shelves til they are reduced to 800 euro 🤣

[@TomMoyse]

Haha

[@jonathanhughes5876]

Those pricey skates are already nearly sold out. Only a few slots left to order!!! There is always a market for niche high end. If you make something in limited quantities there will be people that want it.

[@TomMoyse]

@@jonathanhughes5876 I see it like this: They have sold 7 but it will take 7 months to make them all. €1350 a month. This doesn’t seem like a good model to me.

[@jonathanhughes5876]

@Tom Moyse I don't think they are part of model made for profit. I'm going to compare it to golf; titleist have a CNCPT golf club. Only for the rich. Fittings occur only at very fancy clubs. Turnberry etc. This one clun type has a level of prestige that people want. It isn't the bread and butter of the companies profit or business model though. It creates and maintains a level of prestige wanted by the owner. Thats how I see the Bank-Buster Brutale or whatever it is called. Petey The Knee-Capper of Kids loves prestige. Everything he values is prestige. So it fits in with his vision of the company and perception.

[@TomMoyse]

@@jonathanhughes5876 You’re bang on! People respect Titleist though 😁

[@DADAcreative]

Y’all tweeeeeeeekin, Luke won hands down, skated every obstacle and did crazy shit on every obstacle until the very end . He was doing the spin to win tricks and unique tricks that nobody else was doing. If cudot would’ve landed the 360 top acid drop tta I’d give it to him. I’d say that was the deciding factor in my book 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@TomMoyse]

Good to have people pitching for all sides

[@Huntingdownfakos]

NouBoorul Kasiyama ? ( Noboru Katayama )

[@TomMoyse]

Is that was the auto text/sub said?

[@bx9844]

Noice.

[@TomMoyse]

cheers

[@terrapin9ify]

I gotta say, I never really could stand listening to Ricardo Leno talk, but yeah that’s messed up

[@TomMoyse]

I think he does a great job for a broad audience but I think he made a poor decision here.

[@terrapin9ify]

@@TomMoyse agreed. I always appreciate the skating as well. The whole thing with Levi and adapt was like woah

[@TomMoyse]

@@terrapin9ify yea that situation is mad and Adapts response made it worse

[@SuedeNWings]

couldn't have a non american win.

[@RollerKingJack]

I do feel for Jon fromm he is ducking dope amazing style well deserved shame it’s adapt

[@TomMoyse]

bitter sweet

[@user-tz7zr9fj5k]

Everyone going in was filming Joe and Cudot almost exclusively because everyone was expecting them to win, that's why you aren't seeing the Naylor bits yet. Give it time, he put on a hell of a show

[@TomMoyse]

I’m looking forward to more edits 🙌🏻

[@Kevhoe]

We’ll be waiting a whiiiile

[@lw991366]

The Adapt bit is funny for sure, but bit of an easy target. Being neutral is the more adult thing to do. Lino is actually one of the few who knows both people involved. Yet entitled zoomers are a little too keen on cancelling someone over something they know little about. Also claiming any skate will make you skate 5x better is dumb. It probably will however be 5x more comfortable and last you 5x as long. And its completely made by hand from the best materials over a period of 4 weeks by one guy, so yeah 1350$ isn't crazy.

[@TomMoyse]

Easy target, how so? Lino wasn’t choosing to be an adult, he chose to ignore what has happened for his own gain while actively promote the brand. Being an adult would be standing by your morals. Who is the zoomer? I’ve seen the statement, I know what he said he would do it again. I don’t agree with this. Behaviour. There is not a chance they are 5x more comfortable. Say they are though, I can skate all day with intuition liners and they are perfectly comfortable, no pain no issues. x5 more comfort is redundant so why spend x5 more? I’m sure material and labour and a little profit does come to €1350 - the difference is not worth that. I’m not buying them, but he’s not making them for me.

[@lw991366]

@@TomMoyse Well, easy target because of the drama and high prices. We also have to be careful not to confuse "what has happened" with what has happened. Saying something isn't the same as doing something. Right now Pieter is almost getting treated as if he has actually broken Levi's legs it seems. Not excusing threats here, just saying there were things going on between them about which we'll never know the details. Any case no legs got broken. Exept maybe some long toes 😂. And sure these skates arent for everyone but dont forget there's many olderbladers comming back, 30's and 40's, from the 1990's era (like me) as are many old pro's which I love (Roadhouse, Zamora, Jon Julio who never really stopped, Sven Boekhorst, Aragon, ...) so this brings with it an entire market of people for who 1350$ isn't that much, especially if they last long. Best to embrace this demographic of the market (and their money). Much love

[@TomMoyse]

@@lw991366 Ok I understand the easy target but I’m still punching up as they are bigger than me and it’s new worthy. Oh I’m not confused, my issue is the alleged threat and then lack of accountability shown in the response. I can’t speak on how others may be viewing “what happened” These are niche and I bet there is a niche within the niche who want these skate. There is a lot of other brands I would rather support with my money. 🤝🏻

[@dmgd509]

Stop complaining about the costs of skates... If you're too broke, get a grown up job 🤷🤣🤣🤣. Don't worry, rzrs will gladly charge you 400 for an old mold that'll yellow within a month

[@TomMoyse]

🙃

[@jamess3718]

i was there as its my local, few people talked to cudot...and he was recovering from an injury... as far as whom won...is was a crowd decision.. and they were all in favor of luke takin it... this isnt a popularity contest... as mention i was front a center of the entire event from noon till the very end. its all comes down to the skating....not some dumb social media Bs of who the popular company or person is , that some wack shit.

[@intheorynetworks]

Nah US skaters just cant stand seeing a foreigner win. US skaters are garbage these days, not 1990s or 2000s anymore

[@jamess3718]

@@intheorynetworks proved my point ,go on result to insults now ,ill wait

[@TomMoyse]

Are you saying Luke won because he’s a popular local skater or due to merit?

[@jamess3718]

@@TomMoyse he won cause he is dam good. Dude don't miss

[@TomMoyse]

@@jamess3718 Got it. I was confused because you said it wasn’t a popularity contest but then said it was a crowd decision - which is a popularity contest. I’m buzzing for Luke!

[@vpgnto]

you've benefitted from lino staying neutral haven't you? because this way he could make a 50 min video you've watched entirely right?

[@TomMoyse]

I wasted some of my time skipping through a few minutes, hoping to find some accountability. What’s your thoughts on the situation?

[@vpgnto]

@@TomMoyse more like neutral too, but for having zero empathy with either side.

[@Kevhoe]

“I wasn’t there so I’ll trust the judges” is almost as disingenuous as Lino’s “I’m staying neutral.”

[@TomMoyse]

No it’s not. That’s a very honest statement to highlight the fact there is a clear difference between watching a stream or highlights compared to being there with the purposes of judging. I really hope you can see how the Lino situation is wildly different. Haha 🙌🏻

[@Kevhoe]

@@TomMoyse Okay yeah it’s different but I got your attention 😅 The stream wasn’t really that bad, there’s also a few people who were there that stated the same. Is it not strange the other finalists had plenty of tricks featured on video but Luke had only a couple? Also, the judging criteria set forth had nothing to do with who the crowd cheered for most.

[@TomMoyse]

@@Kevhoe I try to reply to most messages - good for engagement n that.

[@Kevhoe]

@@TomMoyse ❤️