Bizarre Quasi-Confession Leads to Unsupported Murder Charges | Andrea Cincotta Case Analysis

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[@jackiegrice714]

I really wish that the police were held to a higher standard regarding interrogation and confessions. Thank you for covering this Dr. Grande.

[@Ran-33]

Being a crook is part of their job.

[@yuglesstube]

They should be prosecuted.

[@amandamills6181]

If you have a weak mind, & confess to something you didn't do, that's on you. Police use trickery, mostly in the pursuit of getting someone dangerous off the street. They're human, so sometimes they make mistakes, but I'm very happy that they put hundreds of thousands of dangerous people off the streets. If you want all those people to go free, you can let them move in next door to you, not me.

[@erich5686]

I like how Dateline's anonymity cloak came down as soon as they said female, detective and prosecuting attorney. But we can still blame law enforcement as a whole...Here come the hearts !!!

[@tracyking5945]

One thing you do that I appreciate immensely is, you tell us never to talk to the police. They are not our confidants. Thank you Dr. Grande‼️ 👏🌵🪴🫢

[@olebendtsen6117]

It is not a problem talking to the police - but it is a problem that the police is not always honest!

[@ra208408]

@@olebendtsen6117 the problem is talking to police who are trying to make your statement fit into their idea of what happened in the case. They aren’t your friends, their agenda is solving crimes. Thus, much of the time they’re incredibly biased and unwilling to look at alternative suspects once they’re laser focused on one and will make the evidence fit their theory. They’re like a bunch of unethical scientists looking to get nature publications with research that’s destined to fail 😂

[@LaurenThompson702]

Anything you say can AND WILL be used against you.

[@oregonsnob31]

For real…how much future heartache has this sage advice saved us?

[@SeauxNOLALady]

He’s right!! To hell with the idea that you’d look guilty for retaining an attorney to represent you in a criminal case. I’m unfortunately well aware of the police’s tendency to manipulate you and basically torture you into doing what they want. I went from being the victim to being handcuffed in 10 hours. Long story, but the cops ARE NOT your friends!!

[@klardfarkus3891]

We an appalling lack of consistent professionalism among law enforcement and prosecutors with no substantial way to hold them accountable.

[@bthomson]

They hold office by clearing cases fast and winning! Justice often gets forgotten.

[@Koozomec]

​​@@cht2162 and extremely inefficient.

[@klardfarkus3891]

@@cht2162 yes win at any cost and without being constrained by truth or fact.

[@cabooseabs6864]

Chris is extremely lucky he got a jury of people with a brain. If you don't have some expensive high power legal team it's very easy to get a jury full of people who think if the police arrest someone they must be guilty.

[@scottdavidson526]

Ikr. They always believe the person with the badge.

[@dissidentfairy4264]

It's hard to believe that a woman could be so kind as to give a man a computer, call him to go over operating instructions, then offer him a soda when he showed up at her home only to be strangled by him. It sends chills down my spine to think there are people out there who are that cold.

[@johnmadden2814]

it appears no pun was intended..or..was it?! well done

[@dissidentfairy4264]

@@johnmadden2814 This time it was just a fluke. I didn't see it coming! lol (but thanks:-)

[@tommccormick9290]

Sometimes these strangers behave more like animals than like "people."

[@johnnyearp52]

​@@tommccormick9290 Unfortunately murder is not rare among human beings or other animals.

[@tommccormick9290]

@@johnnyearp52 It's far more common in dysfunctional cultures than others even in the USA.

[@arinerm1331]

"The state had so much confidence in that dream-vision confession, they didn't worry about logic, morality, or common sense." This pretty much sums up every prosecutor's office and police department in the United States today. Sadly, many juries have the same lack of worry.

[@jenanne31]

Another excellent reminder that even if you've done nothing wrong, you should never waive your right to counsel. Thanks for your terrific content, Dr. Grande!

[@elizabethwarman9028]

Good evening Dr Grande, great analysis. My Dad always said " if the cops ever want question you for a possible crime, lawyer up, the cops already see you guilty." Have a wonderful evening.

[@tommccormick9290]

This shows that one must weigh the risk to benefit before deciding to help a complete stranger. In this case, a person's kindness proved fatal.

[@tod3msn]

A hit man who says that he decided not to pursue his $5000 fee for the hit seems disingenuous. It does not seem straightforward. Seems astounding. Not enough evidence to convict the boyfriend. The idea that Chris would hire a hit man out of the blue seems implausible. I agree 100% never ever speak to the police without counsel. It is your right and duty to protect your rights and a lawyer can help guide you. And especially in a capital murder case where you could be sentence for life to speak without a lawyer is not a good idea because you could be innocent and you could be very emotional and a lawyer is needed at that moment to protect your rights.

[@kevinc4849]

But it wasn't "out of the blue." There's evidence of a build-up to this, and Leonard has something with potentially sensitive information about Johnson (the computer). Also, Leonard had no means to pursue his fee: he was locked up on an unrelated charge two days later, and by the time he got out, Johnson had moved out and had a different phone number. He didn't have Johnson's proper name.

[@kathybradbury]

I’m only 5th minutes into this analysis, and I’m very distressed about the treatment of Chris! An6 interrogation that uses these methods should have its results thrown out! It is cruel in the extreme. There is supposed to be the presumption of innocence in this country, and certainly this kind of interrogation is a deprivation of basic human rights. Disgusting.

[@jkjives1786]

Never talk to the police without a lawyer present!

[@thelogicaldanger]

Sadly, it has been upheld by the courts that police can legally lie to a person, in order to get a confession. Police can also, legally, selectively edit what parts of the "interview" to give the jury, so the jury won't realize if a confession was coerced. Police can also, legally, not give the defense full access to the confession tapes. Thankfully, we have Miranda rights. If a police officer wants to talk to you, tell them that 1) you will need to talk to your lawyer first and 2) you need their questions in writing (then any response your lawyer advises you to give to those questions, should also be in writing.)

[@kathybradbury]

@@thelogicaldanger that is great advise!

[@ceilconstante640]

Chris seems to be a sensitive quiet guy. The 25 hrs of questions was probably so stressful he invented a story and was probably gaslighted to the point he believed he must have done something wrong.

[@kevinc4849]

That's certainly a reasonable conclusion, given the information presented in the video. The problem with this theory is that Johnson began introducing information that he might be involved, and even giving early versions of the "vision statement," much earlier than that. It started almost right away, and way before the 25 hour mark. It's common for people who were involved directly in a crime to "falsely" confess to alternate versions that make it an accident, or minimize their own responsibility. Unfortunately, the video doesn't analyze that possibility or the psychology behind that phenomenon.

[@zenawarrior7442]

Doesn't sound like the police did a good investigation. Great analysis & facts for us. Thanks Dr G😊💜💜

[@cottontails9003]

Hi Zena, it's Steve here. Julianne had a massive break down. She was too busy taking care of me and the boys. I've taken a week off work to be with her, she needs it badly. Thank you for being her friend.

[@rejaneoliveira5019]

Thank you for the nuanced analysis, Dr. Grande.❤

[@bthomson]

Hi Rejane - Happy Spring!🌷🌿🌺Our education continues with the good doctor.

[@rejaneoliveira5019]

@@bthomson Happy Spring to you as well! 🌹🍃🌷🌸🌼 I am happy with the warmer weather but trying to manage the allergies that comes with it.😅

[@bthomson]

As often no good deed goes unpunished.

[@Overonator]

Another example of a situations where none of this would have happened had the guy never agree to be "interviewed" by the police without a lawyer.

[@seascape1016]

Again Dr. Grande drops the mic. I’m noticing the cactus as always. Appreciate your channel so much. 😍

[@jeanholmes7976]

Thank you Dr. Grande for an informative analysis of this case!! May Andrea Rest In Peace ❤from Jean.

[@daveoinreallife]

Dr. Grande. You've done it again 👍

[@SassySister7730]

Excellent analysis, Dr. Grande.

[@Blissfulnessence]

Never heard of this one before. Thanks Dr Grande, it was interesting and informative.

[@andreasrau2161]

Good morning, Dr. Grande! It looks like the police were originally targeting Chris for Andrea's murder but didn't have enough evidence with which to charge him at first, despite the police lying to him. As for Bobby Joe, his own record of violence speaks for him. His story was really unbelievable. but the police (who lied to Chris before, remember?) were delighted with the possibility of finally closing the case. Chris was innocent and the cops need to be reprimanded for their unethical behavior. I hope Chris takes the police and the prosecuting attorney to the cleaners. Thanks for sharing.

[@powlperc]

Good topic, good lesson, good episode!

[@debbiemilam2204]

Hey Dr Grande. Thanks for all you do. You are amazing.

[@commonsense2680]

Thank you Dr. G. after watching your videos I have been stunned at the level of incompetence or the emotions that Police bring to cases to distort the truth of what happened! So many unsolved crimes that could have been resolved earlier with a little more diligence by the police. I used to want to be a detective to help solve murderers but I don't now if I would have been a good cop or if the will of the blue group would force me to behave certain ways that I would not want to behave.

[@sngray11]

Thank you Dr. Grande for another informative and thought provoking video. I 💯% agree with your assessment and analysis of this case.

[@ginnywilliams1114]

Thank you for this astute analysis and Thank God the jury believed Chris and not the police!❤️🤗❤️

[@cillamoke]

As always great content Dr Grande

[@Tyson-l9f]

First time watching this channel , Great content you got me as A subscriber after this one video.

[@m.f.richardson1602]

Always interesting Thank you Peace 💕🇺🇲

[@nimsa2000]

Hello 👋 good Dr. Grande 😊🎉

[@MEL2theJ]

Excellent analysis 👍

[@kevinc4849]

Except that when discussing the inculpatory evidence, he left out...well...everything. And the analysis suggests that career prison veteran and jailhouse lawyer Leonard concocted a master plan through which to try (but fail) to get sent to a lower security prison--by confessing to a capital crime that he otherwise would have gotten away with--and not even ask for that "benefit" until FOUR YEARS after confessing, and a year after the confession was LOCKED IN by his own grand jury testimony? Meanwhile, Leonard attacks the other girl for a reason (sex), but attacks Andrea...why? As practice for a year later? Then makes up a story that makes himself look like an idiot for being set up? It's an excellent analysis except that it makes no sense.

[@harpothehealer]

1st time a a happening, second time, coincidence hmm, no not with same care issue. Surely it is bloody obvious she has to be charged with neglect.

[@jimcronin2043]

Thankfully, the members of the jury resolved to do their sworn duty honestly and with integrity. From experience I have learned that that there are sometimes jury members who have a bias in favor of the police/prosecution even though the judge's instructions are otherwise.

[@holaizzy]

What an unfortunate and preventable situation. 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@desmit6]

Never understand why innocent spouses don’t get lawyers right away.. they know they have to be suspect #1

[@Nononobpp]

Because the cops tell them if they get an attorney, it means they have something to hide and as they are innocent, they get scared and believe them.

[@humblebee3018]

I would like to see a video about the women -mother and daughter- of Gray Gardens documentary, the relatives of Jackie Kennedy, please, Dr. Grande!

[@pageribe2399]

Oh, yes! Big Edie & Little Edie Beale. Jackie O paid to clean up the place with them in it. I've seen both the documentary and the movie of their lives at Gray Gardens in East Hampton. The documentary is superior to the movie.

[@dissidentfairy4264]

I loved that documentary. I like eccentric people:-)

[@Bloom5056]

Same! I love the documentary and the other less-known documentary that they are in called “That Summer”

[@dissidentfairy4264]

@@cht2162 I'm talking about fun eccentrics not murderous eccentrics:-)

[@Neilsowards]

@@pageribe2399 I believe I read in one of the comments on one of the youtube productions that Onassis was the one who paid big money to have the place cleaned and renovated. I just read this the other day.

[@LifeSuccessCoaching]

This was a good one. 😊

[@rayross997]

Please cover the Jane Stafford story depicted in the YT movie, Life With Billy?

[@btetschner]

It says a lot that Andrea's son thought that Chris could have been involved in the murder. Bobby's story sounds believable. He might have just instinctly lied about the caller ID so people would believe him. Jealousy could have been the motive for Chris to hire Bobby. Apparently the jury was convinced that Bobby was lying, one hour is such a short time!

[@catherinealbion6955]

Where the head shape can be seen a significant amount of criminals have a pointy head shape such as Bobby does.

[@johnnyearp52]

I noticed that his head looked strange...

[@roxannespahr2804]

I am so curious about mental health disorders such as schizophrenia and what it feels like for someone in psychosis. I don't know anyone with schizophrenia but I've always wondered what it is like for them when they hear auditory hallucinations and see things. As well as what it would feel like for someone in psychosis. I've always wondered. I wonder if they consciously know they're hearing and seeing things that aren't there or does it really feel like something is there just the same as I can see my mom at the table with me when we have dinner together? Ive learned a lot from watching this channel but I am really considering going back to school to get a degree in psychology.

[@Faythe98]

Might I recommend a video called “Cecelia’s life with Schizophrenia” on a channel called “Special Books by Special Kids” i really learned a lot from that video

[@robertsmith4129]

Voices shouting at you day and night accusing you of horrible things. Then what usually happens is real people start accusing you of things too.

[@Neilsowards]

There is a book by Miriam Toews, a Canadian author, that tells what her father suffered and what he might have been thinking in his life with BiPolar mental disease. Very interesting book.

[@roxannespahr2804]

@@robertsmith4129 that's what I'm curious about. I know the symptoms can vary...it's just really intriguing to me to understand what a person with schizophrenia goes through. I cannot imagine having auditory or visual hallucinations. I try imagining it. Or what psychosis would be like. My heart goes out to anyone who has to go through those things, I can imagine the fear and frustration that would understandably be felt at those times. Do you go through that, or are u just relaying what it would be like second hand?

[@roxannespahr2804]

@@Neilsowards thank you for the recommendation. 😀

[@cherjohnson6808]

Always get an attorney

[@vladimirputindreadlockrast812]

Your Miranda rights say, "Anything you say may be used against you." The Miranda does NOT say, "Anything you say may be used to ascertain the truth." The state prosecution is a ratcheting effect. It only moves toward conviction, not toward truth. A state prosecution does not dial back if they are wrong. In fact, the state does not admit wrong doing. It's a fine distinction that makes all the difference.

[@annacasto8054]

Love the content

[@thesongbird2383]

Dr. Grande - Good analysis, plus great advice. Thanks for covering this one. I viewed 20/20's story and felt so bad for Chris. 👍💜🌵

[@outsideofenough6466]

Reminds me of 7 year old Jacqueline Dowaliby who was taken from her room and murdered in 1988 Chicago. The police accused her parents and then did horrible things with the “evidence” and witnesses and sent David Dowaliby to jail for almost two years. The untrue flimsy evidence was proven untrue, but the police still wanted to go after him after his appeal was successful, even going to their supreme court. I guess it’s hard for some people to accept they were wrong. Scary stuff.

[@TribalCashAA]

Can you analyze the case of Esar Met? He confessed to killing another Salt Lake City resident Hser Ner Moo, both Burmese immigrants to Utah.

[@usamazulqarnain8420]

What’s up Dr Grande!

[@TribalCashAA]

You say "Innocent people usually don't confess either in, or out, of a dream state". Actually false confessions are very common and many psychologists with experience in that field believe almost anybody can be made to falsely confess if you use the correct technique. Soviet interrogators got roughly 100% of the people they interrogated to confess, often using physical pressures. Using strictly psychological trickery most children can be made to confess to anything quickly whether innocent or guilty, but many adults as well.

[@petrasworld913]

When I saw the interrogation on TV I couldn't help but wonder if Chris has asberger's. I thought that because of the low emotional response and explaining things in detail that aren't important like exactly how he put the laundry in the machine.

[@kevinc4849]

Aren't the details about the laundry important? The claim is that he spent much of the evening doing laundry without involving (or noticing the out-of-place door of) the bedroom closet, which is located centrally to where he says he was walking back and forth to do the laundry. If a story were being rehearsed to explain how one could have possibly done laundry all evening without noticing the ajar closet door with the dead body inside that's right next to the laundry basket, wouldn't the details around the laundry be extremely important?

[@LaniLanilei]

Hi Dr Grande

[@bbbb98765]

The state should have just moved him to another prison in return for confessing to the second murder.. no drama, no extra unfair trial

[@Xx_BruhDog_xX]

But why did Bobby kill her though

[@bradweir3085]

I've heard it's notoriously easy to spoof phone numbers.

[@kevinc4849]

Even in 1998?

[@bradweir3085]

@@kevinc4849 probably. When I know there are people who swat others for fun and CIA officials who used people in sick ways during MKUltra... I would keep a more open mind on murder. Occam's razor is a tool of truly Machiavellian people.

[@kevinc4849]

Remember that Leonard and Johnson BOTH said in 1998 that they had spoken to each other on the phone, and Leonard said this started as a continuation of that conversation, and that he recognized the voice. So, a "spoofed" number wouldn't explain that, and wouldn't explain Leonard knowing details of Andrea's schedule that were otherwise known only by Johnson. It's extremely unlikely that the number was "spoofed," but if it was, that would be unfavorable for Johnson, for these reasons.

[@bettinabarry8423]

What didn't make sense is that Bobby Jo didn't come after Chris for the 5 thousand dollars owed to him...that was a telling sign that it was Bobby, alone who killed her.

[@kevinc4849]

One of the things this presentation didn't cover is the context around that. Leonard got locked up in Philadelphia a couple of days after the murder and was in jail for about two months. During that time, detectives questioned him fairly aggressively. He stated that he realized he was a significant suspect in the case and therefore couldn't go back to the crime scene. In addition, he had no way to seek the money. He didn't know the proper name of Andrea's boyfriend, and the condo had been sealed off as a crime scene. After that, Johnson moved out and of course had a different phone number. Leonard told the cold case detective that, had he been able to somehow locate Andrea's boyfriend, and wasn't already a suspect in the case, he "would have killed him."

[@bettinabarry8423]

@@kevinc4849 Good points.

[@advena996]

Ugh- this is so sad! Honestly as a child/teen i think the dictionary is one of the safest options to educate oneself! If I were a parent, I would much rather my child look up an unknown word in the dictionary than on the Internet!

[@TheDJGrandPa]

"Unless she wanted to be strangled" ... Oh sweet innocent Dr. Grande😅

[@LaniLanilei]

Chris filing a civil suit indeed questioned the integrity of LE. They are not always above reproach. I stand behind Dr. Grande's opinion.

[@johnmadden2814]

me too,times two.

[@LaniLanilei]

@@johnmadden2814 ty

[@ShoelessSewist]

A better prison? Maybe one in New Jersey?

[@LaniLanilei]

Lol

[@thelogicaldanger]

The only part I disagree with of Dr Grande's analysis, is that people don't usually give false confessions. Unfortunately, false confessions happen all the time, due to police lying to the suspect, and/or wearing them down with lengthy "interviews" so the person is to tired to think straight. Solution is easy, use your Miranda rights and do no ever agree to a police "interview." Any questions the police have should be put in writing and submitted to your lawyer for consideration.

[@kevinc4849]

Does a shoeprint, concluded by the crime lab to be Johnson's, found on the body, change this analysis?

[@kevinc4849]

So, let me get this straight. 1. The police question Johnson in 1998 and he tells them some pretty unbelievable stuff, like that he walked past the closet door 5-6 times while it was AJAR and Andrea's body was IN IT and put the laundry basket RIGHT AT THE DOOR, but somehow didn't notice. He also ends up giving a statement that some interpret as a confession, and lots of it checks out, but not enough of it can be corroborated, so the police (correctly) don't charge him,. Earlier in his statement, and prior to any police deception, he says Andrea gave him the number of "the computer guy," asked him to call, and correctly recites the first three digits of (Leonard's) phone number. 2. The police investigate the computer guy (Leonard), but they don't have any evidence with which to charge him, because it's clear that the condo has been cleaned, and it looks nothing like the crime scene you'd expect with someone like Leonard i.e., the physical evidence (or lack thereof), in their mind, appears to point to Johnson. Johnson says there was "no signs of struggle" anywhere in the condo, even though the medical examiner said there was struggle. There was no convincing evidence of sexual assault, but Leonard has an MO of sex offenses. This also appears to point (in the police's minds) to a domestic issue at the time. 3. When questioned, the computer guy (Leonard), in 1998, also says he got an unsolicited/random call from the "husband/boyfriend." 4. The family spends years trying to find the computer guy, hiring private investigators, lawyers, etc. but Johnson tells them he has no idea who the guy is, knows nothing about him, etc. Completely different than what he told the police. It takes the family about two years and $10K of lawyers and PIs before they find him. When they find him, and tell Johnson, he STILL doesn't come forward about Andrea asking him to call, or his knowledge of Leonard in the days leading up to the murder. 5. 20 years later, Leonard confesses and explains that the phone call(s) were to set up a hit, and he didn't sexually assault Andrea because he was there for another purpose--to collect the $ he was promised during those phone calls. Leonard gets no benefit from confessing and ends up with another life sentence, destroying his chances at the prison transfer he was supposedly angling for. Even when that becomes clear, and even today, Leonard maintains his statement. 6. Johnson is indicted by a grand jury of his fellow citizens, indicating probable cause that he is guilty. 7. Johnson is tried and acquitted--the trial jury finds that the prosecution hasn't proven its case beyond a reasonable doubt. At the trial, the central theme of Johnson's attorneys' arguments is "there was no phone call," appearing to contradict their own client. When confronted about this, they say they aren't required to be consistent--only to show reasonable doubt. And from that, we are to conclude that (a) Not only must Johnson be *actually* innocent, but (b) law enforcement are the villains in the case; and (c) the whole thing was screwed up because police were deceptive Johnson in 1998--while Johnson's inconsistent statements to both the police and the victim's family are ignored? Maybe I'm missing something, but it looks like Johnson wasn't charged in 1998 precisely because police didn't believe him. Presumably, he was charged because Leonard confessed, and the confession (and its implication of Johnson) was deemed credible by police, prosecutors, a grand jury, the victim's family, and apparently the judge (who three times denied motions to strike or dismiss the indictment, citing the sufficiency of the evidence against Johnson). This was not a "bizarre quasi-confession" leading to an "unsupported" murder charge. This was Johnson either succumbing to police deception, or confessing to a milder version of what happened to minimize his own responsibility (as guilty people often do), or straight-up lying to throw off the investigation (which is what prosecutors argue), or some combo of the three, or something else. We will never know. But Johnson wasn't charged because of his 1998 statement. It appears that he was charged because Leonard told on him and the grand jury believed Leonard. Not based on Leonard being a trustworthy guy, but based on *evidence*. A full discussion of that inculpatory evidence is missing from this video. The video instead references only Johnson's 1998 statement. That statement was introduced at trial only to question Johnson's credibility. It wasn't offered as truth and wasn't presented as inculpatory. It's okay to argue against the inculpatory evidence, but the presentation here is disingenuous: it pretends that evidence doesn't exist. Yet it's documented on the website(s) referenced in this same video.

[@countdebleauchamp]

But the deciding jury didn't believe Leonard. And it took them only an hour to make that decision. Regarding grand juries, and maybe I'm falling for judicial myth, but isn't there something to the saying "you can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich"?

[@colin6603]

The good doctor is back with another wacky tale from society

[@valiakloeppel7252]

I think those police officers and all involved should be fired for work ineptitude

[@reneethorn145]

I find the US interrogation methods concerning. We use interview techniques, which are very different. If a suspect has been arrested, the police must charge or release them within 24 hours. The only exception to this rule is when someone has been accused of terrorism.

[@johnnyearp52]

Where are you from?

[@reneethorn145]

@@johnnyearp52 UK

[@johnnyearp52]

@@reneethorn145 I am glad you have more reasonable rules about interrogation.

[@reneethorn145]

@@johnnyearp52 we interview rather than interrogate. It's long been known that if you deprive someone of sleep, natural light etc and bombard them with questions, they'll eventually admit to anything (including things they haven't done) just to make it stop.

[@johnnyearp52]

@@reneethorn145 I know. I was sincere in what I said.

[@TheAllianceEnt]

I'll never understand how killing a person is easier than simply leaving them.

[@johnmadden2814]

especially when they had just given them a computer...

[@johnnyearp52]

​@@johnmadden2814 I don't think those two were dating...

[@swedishmeatball4382]

Maybe Dr Grande should check out the case of Thomas Quick, a man who confessed to 39 murders and was convicted of 8 without a single shred of physical evidence. The sessions where he confessed to "his" crimes were led by the main psychiatrist's former patients and he was constantly told by the police what he "should" be remembering during these sessions and what evidence they had. As long as he kept confessing he could order whatever drugs he wanted and was sent on excursions to show the places where he commitedthe crimes or hid the body parts to get some relief from his life at the institution. Not that he was innocent to begin with; the dude has issues and was a child molesting robber among other things, but the "investigation" was a race from beginning to end. If this had been a movie plot it would have been heavily critiqued for being too far-fetched.

[@johnnyearp52]

So they used him to fix their unsolved murder rate?

[@GoogleUser-nj7yo]

Dr. GGGGGG ❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@countdebleauchamp]

How could the prosecution move forward with such a weak case? Good on the jury.

[@maddieadams75]

Ole Bobby is a opportunist. Amazing Bobby has a girlfriend…. Ladies men in prison are not good catches.

[@matthewneufer1758]

What's the shame is they should try to find out who is the guilty party instead of trying to establish an create a guilty party and why don't you try to find who is really the one that's guilty? I never understood that please did this......

[@NeapolitanApe]

I thought the guy in the thumbnail was the my pillow guy lmao

[@kimwhatmatters4085]

No good deed🙃

[@paullovio7909]

Dr. Grande, may you analyze the conduct of Donald Trump and the indictment trial?

[@heycharnay9180]

Random… can’t wait for your wife to decorate for Easter 🐣

[@MEL2theJ]

Dr. Grande released a short video yesterday of his wife's Easter decorations 🐇🐰🙂

[@heycharnay9180]

@@MEL2theJ I saw it thank you 😊

[@MEL2theJ]

@@heycharnay9180 I giggled when I saw your "random" comment so I wanted to mention that video to you 🐰 Hoppy Easter!

[@heycharnay9180]

@@MEL2theJ Happy Easter !!!🐣🐇

[@SuperToombs]

I'm really surprised that the state would actually take chris to trial with a jerk off case like that. Like what judge would ever issue an arrest warrant with that jumbled mess of evidence...or lack there of.

[@kevinc4849]

Arrest warrants are pretty much required and automatic after grand jury indictments.

[@MrCophtr]

cops don't care about getting the bad guy, any old man/woman will do and then they get their praise from the public on how fast and 'professional' they are

[@catherinecarmichael3180]

My stomping grounds.. Virginia

[@laylam4241]

Would you please do a video on Prince Harry s therapy session with Gabor Mate?

[@erikamccarthy1457]

4/4/23 Bobby lied to le said Chris wanted him for Murder for Hire, had no idea what he looked like! Bobby was caught on jail phone telling gf he was getting out of jail, he lied about Chris to get a deal!! Kevin, sorry for your loss. Imo, Chris never involved. Andrea, rip🌹

[@kevinc4849]

Except there was no deal, and the things he was telling his gf have nothing to do with the case. Leonard first mentioned the phone call(s) in 1998 and confessed in 2018, then repeated his confession to the grand jury (implicating himself as well) in 2021. The first discussion about a non-binding phone call to support a possible prison transfer occurred in 2022. Leonard didn't get even the non-binding call, but testified anyway. And he's still at Wallens Ridge. I'm not an expert, but wouldn't someone who wanted a deal, you know, ask for a deal before they confessed to a murder (maybe even get a lawyer), rather than waiting four years just to ask for a non-binding phone call that he didn't get anyway? Telling his girlfriend that "the governor of Virginia will pardon me for all my crimes" is certainly laughable, but it has nothing to do with this case.

[@erikamccarthy1457]

@@kevinc4849 4/5/23 Ik wasn’t given deal, but that was his motivation for coming up with Murder for hire plot. He wanted to be moved to a different prison. I don’t believe he got what he wanted. Andrea, rip🌹

[@kevinc4849]

@@erikamccarthy1457 But if it was his motivation, why didn't he mention it in 2018, when he first confessed? Or in 2020, when he confessed again in a virtual call with prosecutors? Or in 2021, at the grand jury, when he confessed a third time? Wouldn't he have asked for this concession before implicating himself for another life sentence--when he had some kind of leverage? If he wanted to negotiate a deal, why didn't get a lawyer? I understand what you're saying, but it doesn't pass the smell test for me. Isn't it a terrible way to get moved to a better prison to implicate yourself in a murder that you would have otherwise not even have been charged with? He'd been in prison for 20 years and didn't understand that a new life sentence would hurt his cause for a transfer? If he was going to make something up, why not implicate Johnson *without* implicating himself? Why did he choose to implicate someone without knowing the person's name? If you're going to make up a story about someone soliciting you for a murder-for-hire, and you have 20 years to prepare, shouldn't you at least find out their name first? In any case, what matters isn't whether Leonard benefitted or thought he'd benefit. What matters is the veracity of his statement. Leonard knew highly specific details of Andrea's schedule that day (which was an unusual schedule for her) that he couldn't have reasonably known unless Johnson told him. Leonard hadn't been at the condo site, or anywhere near it, for 3-4 weeks prior to the murder, and he didn't have a car. Leonard's statement is supported by the details he knows, and nobody (including Dr. Grande) has offered any alternative reasonable explanation for how he knew them. By the way, he mentioned call(s) from the "husband/boyfriend" even in 1998, before he was locked up on the first life sentence. Johnson had denied having any contact with Leonard to family members.

[@shawn20768]

What a shame

[@thomasdoubting]

-Before you lose consciousness from sleep deprivation, how do you think the murder took place? -If i shot Lincoln I would have used a pillow. a cosy pillow💤

[@constitutionalli7522]

If you look up Black's Law definition of gangs- i swear to Santa it specifically describes the police 🦅🇺🇲

[@orcuttcat]

moral of story.. just throw that computer away

[@birdworldist]

Yess king go off!!!

[@chrissearer1896]

Complete Botch job. DA should be embarrassed. It’s criminal negligence. They know shady cop tactics better than anyone. Cheap try.

[@straykittsco.950]

He was beat to 💩 for a 20 anything year old! 😑

[@kirschrot77]

Why did Bobby murder Andrea?

[@kevinc4849]

And how did he know the exact details of her schedule that day, when he hadn't been in the area for almost a month?

[@louise2467]

Wow….DONT TALK TO THE POLICE GET A LAWYER! Ok……

[@minnietrout814]

I’ve gotta agree with ya, Doc. Chris Johnson is innocent of this crime.

[@kevinc4849]

So the crime scene cleaned itself up, and Leonard knew the details of Andrea's schedule that day by psychic mediumship?

[@lezleepowers3373]

Interested in being strangled 😂

[@erich5686]

And of course race couldn't have been a factor or Dateline would have mentioned it. I like how Dateline's anonymity cloak came down as soon as they said female, detective and prosecuting attorney. Today's media is just so Brave !!!

[@AromaBlue]

Are you ok?

[@Swanky95472]

Just another case of incompetent cops!

[@GrubbsandWyrm]

I've had police gaslight me so much I wasn't sure what happened. I got lucky and there was a camera where the wreck happened, but they are trained to get people to say things

[@AliValentine143]

4th comment this is the quickest I've ever gotten here🎉 Edit: 4th Bonds got 3rd 😂

[@kimberlyhackney8190]

Alway innocent or not get a lawyer before talking to the police!

[@aarondavis8943]

The police are terrible in every video 🤣🤣

[@billflipper1130]

Day 455 of no Sammy the Bull Gravano video