BJJ blue belt tries judo sparring (full randori class at CJ Judo) ft. black belt Chuck Jefferson

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Josh Beam BJJ

Josh Beam BJJ

Күн бұрын

Behind the scenes of a FULL judo sparring class with 9 rounds of randori, as well as warm-ups and some conversations.
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Thanks to Sensei Chuck Jefferson and CJ Judo for hosting us! Filmed by Matt Guffey.
I'm a BJJ blue belt, and having competed in 62 tournaments, I'm looking to improve my standup game. And what better way than by learning judo?
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00:00 Intro
00:35 Warmup
01:27 Rules explanation
02:21 Round 1 (female blue belt)
02:47 My goals
03:00 Round 2 (wrestler white belt)
03:38 Round 3 (Chuck)
04:47 Round 4 (black belt)
05:50 Round 5 (black belt)
06:54 Round 6 (brown belt)
08:08 Round 7 (brown belt)
09:00 Convo with Chuck
10:16 Round 8 (another BJJ guy)
11:18 Round 9 (white belt)
#bjj #judo #bjjmotivation #judomotivation

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@BinhtriVu
@BinhtriVu 2 ай бұрын
BJJ black belt here who cross trains in judo. Judo is WAAAAAAAAY harder to learn than BJJ. The learning curve is STEEP and applying judo in a BJJ setting will take YEARS of practice and experimenting. The reactions you get from BJJ players and wrestlers are totally different than what you’d expect in a judo setting. Have fun and be safe! Chuck is awesome and I need to drop in the next time I am in San Jose to learn from him.
@ryansmith9138
@ryansmith9138 2 ай бұрын
Agreed, im a BJJ purple Judo 2nd Dan and I even had to adapt my Judo a little at first to match the odd reactions I was getting in BJJ, also I generally avoid any throw that lands me in guard... Im looking at you ouchi gari lol
@BinhtriVu
@BinhtriVu 2 ай бұрын
@@ryansmith9138 I'm a third degree BJJ black belt and still working on earning shodan in judo. Its hard as hell and the teenagers/college judokas that have been training since they were kids do not respect their elders! Its VERY humbling to get slammed by 14 year olds who you outweigh by 60 lbs. LOL
@jasonrose6288
@jasonrose6288 2 ай бұрын
​@@ryansmith9138I train both, too. BJJ guys sit so far back and are always that nanosecond away from just pulling guard. It makes throwing hard in my experience.
@m5a1stuart83
@m5a1stuart83 2 ай бұрын
@@jasonrose6288 yeah most of them are afraid to engage in throwing aspect. the best way in BJJ is pulling guard.
@lamesurfer1015
@lamesurfer1015 2 ай бұрын
@@ryansmith9138 With BJJ, the reactions are either a lack of reaction ("Why didn't you try to dodge my Ko Uchi Gari or O Soto Gari") which leads to feints being ineffective. Otherwise, its pulling guard the moment they feel your grips. I also wrestle, so often times other wrestlers, particularly folkstyle wrestlers, don't see Ashi Waza coming. I feel that Freestyle guys are exposed to the Judo/Sambo flavored Russian style more readily - and most Greco guys did a stint in the freestyle world at some point, so they don't fall for it quite as easily.
@overrideFunction
@overrideFunction 2 ай бұрын
The instructor and gym atmosphere looked fantastic. Also, fun video!
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! Yeah everything about CJ Judo is awesome. So glad I was introduced to it through a BJJ friend.
@victorrivera6012
@victorrivera6012 Ай бұрын
Good to see judo finally getting its respect after being dissed by MMA fans for years.
@psykrobone9479
@psykrobone9479 2 ай бұрын
Man you did phenomenal 🔥. Randori isn’t a competition about winning or losing. It’s about learning with your partner
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot for the feedback! Definitely trying to make it a mutual learning experience. Glad you enjoyed the video!
@johnsnider2956
@johnsnider2956 2 ай бұрын
Judo is fun as hell and has so much more naunce than it gets credit for. It may take you awhile to get a feel for how to implement what you learn to bjj, but keep at it! I'm a judo shodan and bjj purple belt practicing since 2013. Still love it. Your movement looks good for just starting!
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
That’s awesome! Thanks for your comment and for watching 🤙🏻
@fumoaddict3526
@fumoaddict3526 2 ай бұрын
my shoulder's fucked after landing badly off a sumi gaeshi so i'm going to binge vids like these as a pseudo comfort food who knew you could get an injury off of sumi gaeshi of all things anyways these foot sweeps look so nice, it's like magic, uke just falls over it's great. these guys must have insane timing to be able to just pull it off like that.
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
Oh damn, sorry to hear about your shoulder. I know how tough it can be to be on the sidelines. Glad I could make a cool vid for you though! Thanks for watching. Yeah, the foot sweeps are insane. I love the drills we do walking up and down the mat to get the timing right.
@nathanmcmanus5056
@nathanmcmanus5056 2 ай бұрын
I'm in exactly the same boat as you at the moment. Dislocated my shoulder last Friday from being on the receiving end of a hard double leg
@patrickwalsh5153
@patrickwalsh5153 Ай бұрын
It is super rare to injure your shoulder off of a Sumi gaeshi.
@marcelocosta452
@marcelocosta452 2 ай бұрын
I'm a 28 years old ex bjj blue belt who decides to change bjj to judo 2 months ago and its beeing a humble pie each training. Its funny .. I'm doing martials arts since my early 20 's (Kick boxe, muay thai and bjj) and I always have a vision of judo beeing a easy thing .. well now at this stage I can comfortably say that nothing is tough as Judo. bjj you always have the option of pull guard and advoid takedowns and in striking if you have da dog in you with some technique you can stay safe also and train in your 20's 30's .. but judo bro ... at 28 on a Judo Dojo I know i'm on a rush to get that knowledge and I have not much time to fall with violence. Cheers from Portugal
@cahallo5964
@cahallo5964 2 ай бұрын
You are not an ex blue belt what? You don't lose your rank if you train something else man
@marcelocosta452
@marcelocosta452 2 ай бұрын
@@cahallo5964 Thats a semi-true .. you can have a certain rank but if you don't train eventually in practice you don't have that rank anymore .. but that whats not the point with my first comment.. I was just saying that I move from bjj to judo and the the lifetime to practice judo is much shorter and the curve of getting knowlegde is not exponencial like bjj .. and it hurts on your body .. Conclusion Bjj is more recreative and a long term sport .. Judo its just for some years. cheers mate osssssssaaaa
@edlesboroughkoipondstevech3546
@edlesboroughkoipondstevech3546 Ай бұрын
As a 63 year old judoka who has practised off and on for 50 odd years I tried jujitsu last year which I enjoyed but found the transition not as easy as I thought it would be. My judo dan grade was respected and accepted. I guess judo is one of the many schools of jujitsu
@Wisstihrwas
@Wisstihrwas 28 күн бұрын
Lovely Dojo, insightful instructor, good vibe, nice mixture between intensity and flow in randori. 10/10! Would absolutely love to visit Cj Judo when im in the states ❤
@gajorg69
@gajorg69 2 ай бұрын
As a judoka that dabbles in bjj and kickboxing i love this content good job. Seems like a very chill club which is great to start learning judo at!
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
I’m glad you like it, appreciate your comment! Yeah Chuck Jefferson is awesome, really runs a great school.
@gajorg69
@gajorg69 2 ай бұрын
@@joshbeambjj Much nicer than my dojo in Canada, but I think many of the USA clubs run on a fee model. So its a bit different. Cool to see though. I'd love to come down south and check it out. The Judo community online can be a bit pedantic so you don't see much content online, so thanks again for throwing some out there.
@MisterDos916
@MisterDos916 2 ай бұрын
Respect. Great work.
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@lordtains
@lordtains Ай бұрын
Judo is such a great martial art, I'm glad it's getting more attention again!
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj Ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more! Thanks for watching
@premo0
@premo0 2 ай бұрын
San Jose, CA!!! 🙌🏾 Been living here for about 17 yrs and went to SJSU (twice). This area is home to some of the best judokas + judo gyms in the country. Someone from the SJSU judo club (which trains olympians) i trained with a bit recommended CJ Judo. Though I'm a little surprised they didn't have any newaza. A lot of SJ judo gyms train 50/50 on tachiwaza and newaza. But maybe this specific session was intentionally 100% tachiwaza. 🤷🏽‍♂️ Biggups to Josh though, appreciate you being so open and appreciative of the sport + spotlighting San Jose + just being a very kind dude!!!
@Karen-fs6lf
@Karen-fs6lf 2 ай бұрын
Doing judo for 27 years much respect for you
@bs_art3625
@bs_art3625 Ай бұрын
For being a BJJ guy, you're making some of the most entertaining Judo videos man, and just wanna say your video production quality is really good, keep it up, subscribed!
@michaelbuitrago8139
@michaelbuitrago8139 2 ай бұрын
This a great. What comes across is everyone seems to be enjoying themselves while training hard. The camaraderie really shows. This is #Judo!
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely, everyone was super cool! It was a really good time. Thanks for watching!
@alanIrl99
@alanIrl99 2 ай бұрын
Good randori session there. We have a standing joke in my club that in randori it's important to remember it's not about winning (but nobody said anything about the not losing..) BJJ guys are hard to fight standing-up once they get their heads around the gripping and posture - and almost impossible to get the better of on the ground :) Glad you enjoyed it.
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
Lol I’m gonna steal that saying 😂 thanks for watching!
@pr0t0k01
@pr0t0k01 2 ай бұрын
I do both now , judo is really hard but its art . BJJ is really enjoyable
@joewwright92
@joewwright92 2 ай бұрын
Great to see you moving a lot and taking loads of throws! That's what the number one goal should be for beginners in their randori. Seems like a great club.
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
Thanks! Yeah I think right now I’m really trying to learn how to fall properly so I can gain some confidence and hopefully not worry so much about hurting myself 😂 Thanks for dropping a comment and watching 🤙🏻
@lucasgarcia4193
@lucasgarcia4193 2 ай бұрын
What a great place for Randori, so controlled!!
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj Ай бұрын
totally agree! thanks for watching
@tomasz8310
@tomasz8310 Ай бұрын
i remember when i was teen orange/green belt judo, i always tried to throw this black browns ;d... now im on other side, and im soo happy when i see good grips nice ,sweeps, foot work from lower belts and i fly for them so they can gain more confidence, :) i dont want too hurt them or show who is boss, im on the way with them and we all goin same direction
@obscurelines
@obscurelines 2 ай бұрын
Great stuff. It's so important to use that upright posture, partly because this is shared development and you shouldn't be too defensive, but also if ever you are in a real fight you are highly likely to start standing up as someone grabs you or hits you. Your reaction in this upright position is hugely important. God I miss judo but after 30 years my body can't take the falls any more (so I climb, which is lovely).
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! Wow 30 years of judo? That’s pretty awesome. Great point about the shared development, I guess you mean so partners have a chance to enter in for throws on me as well.
@obscurelines
@obscurelines 2 ай бұрын
@@joshbeambjj yes, it's the standing equivalent of not trying to have an impossible closed guard in BJJ rolling. Both should be done in good natured flow. Good luck with it!
@isalehyan
@isalehyan 2 ай бұрын
Congratulations on starting your judo path. Once everything ‘clicks’ you’ll be throwing people with ease. Chuck Jefferson is a rare gem in our community. Had a great podcast for a while. Training seems to be the right balance of getting after it, but still respecting your partner.
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and for the comment! Chuck is fantastic, I actually just sat down and interviewed him, which I’ll be posting as well. And before that he was telling me about his podcast and how he ran the JudoFanatics pod for a while too! Pretty awesome. Do you do judo in the Bay Area too?
@isalehyan
@isalehyan 2 ай бұрын
@@joshbeambjj no, I’m in Texas. But I’ve listened to every one of his podcasts. I met him once at a tournament. Have done Judo for 25 years, did BJJ up to blue belt, before taking a break due to some injuries. Judo is tough. There is nothing like it.
@vinnie2019
@vinnie2019 2 ай бұрын
Such a beautiful Sport!
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj Ай бұрын
It really is!
@shinobihiriyu-originalninj4634
@shinobihiriyu-originalninj4634 2 ай бұрын
great video, i see more and more of judo and BJJ comparing the arts. I really enjoyed your video. I remember my first day at a judo school, it was absolutely cool. We had a grat training and randori, really hard workout. Today i had my first turnament, boy was it killer ! Judo is crazy ! I got a bronze medal in open weight class ! And i got a record for the day, 4.5 seconds for and ippon.. I hope you will take what you can from judo and add it to your training :D
@sykes391
@sykes391 2 ай бұрын
Great video!
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it, thanks for watching!
@DatriniThug
@DatriniThug 2 ай бұрын
That drop seoi nage was heat
@mattburnz
@mattburnz 2 ай бұрын
Great Video!
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
I’m glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching and dropping a comment. I’ll be posting many more!
@moefinesse9878
@moefinesse9878 2 ай бұрын
Judo shodan and BJJ black belt here. I wanted to state how much respect I have for you to start judo at a later stage of your life. You're young enough to attain your shodan as I started judo at the age of 26. I am now 46 years young lol. Merba Dvalishvili, a black belt judoka and combat sambo world 2nd place medalist just schooled Henry Cejudo, who is a gold medalist in freestyle wrestling. Goes to show Khabib was correct about judo being of higher pedigree. Keep training,
@Danlovestrivium
@Danlovestrivium 2 ай бұрын
Question, I train BJJ only and have never been in a Judo dojo before. Is the floor the same on both gyms? Is the Judo floor constructed differently or is it simply mats on the floor similar to what I'm used to seeing in my BJJ gym?
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
That’s so cool to hear. Thanks for your comment, really appreciate that! And much respect to you too for starting when you did and progressing all the way up there. I’m 31, so I’ll prob be pretty old by the time I get any black belt 😂
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
At the judo gym in the video, the mats are bouncy! It’s very different than a BJJ gym. I’m not clear though how many judo clubs use the really bouncy mats though. I’ve heard in Japan it’s much less common, for example. Maybe a real judoka can chime in here.
@Danlovestrivium
@Danlovestrivium 2 ай бұрын
@@joshbeambjj I was thinking that it might be a raised floor similar to a WWE wrestling ring, for lack of better description. As in, raised plywood flooring with mats on top that allow for more of a "spring" effect when slammed into it, but lesser so when you're simply walking on it. But that's just me thinking out loud.
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
@Danlovestrivium ah yeah I know what you’re referring to. I’ll try to remember to ask Chuck next time
@Itzak15
@Itzak15 2 ай бұрын
Just by staying upright and taking falls you are doing more things correct than most in randori. Good job! The teachers techniques were clean!
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj Ай бұрын
thank you!
@billygooze7886
@billygooze7886 2 ай бұрын
hands down the most beautiful martial art
@mattk9425
@mattk9425 2 ай бұрын
Btw, Sensei Chuck is no ordinary judo black. He actually is one of the elites and you would never know because of how humble and friendly he is. You did extremely well for a bjj blue belt, and it was impressive that you actually looked like a judoka with your movements and the flow of your randori rounds. Great stuff, great vid!
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
Every time I talk to him, I get a few more details about his judo story, and every time it’s more and more impressive 😂 Fascinating guy for sure… I was lucky to interview him recently, which I’ll be posting here too soon. And thanks, I can’t believe I managed to actually look like a judoka 😂 Gonna keep working! Thanks for watching 🤙🏻
@definitelynottigerwhitten5865
@definitelynottigerwhitten5865 2 ай бұрын
What a cool instructor!
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
Yeah Chuck is awesome! Thanks for watching
@user-sl4sx6dp4c
@user-sl4sx6dp4c 2 ай бұрын
great video man
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@dannynguyen7076
@dannynguyen7076 2 ай бұрын
Looks fun!
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
Suuuuper fun, I highly recommend it to everyone lol especially BJJ people
@legitprowrestling6653
@legitprowrestling6653 2 ай бұрын
Awesome video. Cross training is awesome. I coach CSW, Catch Wrestling, BJJ, Sambo and MMA at my school in England. I used to play judo as do a lot of my students. Judo is amazing and extremely tough!
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and dropping a comment! That’s really awesome, so you have experience across all kinds of grappling arts. I really wanna try some more different ones like the ones you mentioned.
@ryancookrj13
@ryancookrj13 2 ай бұрын
You can tell the gym's culture is good, higher belts let you work and you can see the mutual respect between partners. Great video!
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely, everyone there is very respectful towards each other, I love it. Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it!
@jiujitsuismyoutlet
@jiujitsuismyoutlet 2 ай бұрын
Great video. Keep it up
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
Hey thank you! Glad you liked it
@fuhdawin510
@fuhdawin510 Ай бұрын
I gotta swing by!
@lugo_9969
@lugo_9969 2 ай бұрын
Having done a lot of judo, karate, jiu jitsu....judo is the most fun, the most strenuous , and the real deal.
@Joseph981000
@Joseph981000 2 ай бұрын
You look super comfortable with the Georgian grip o-goshi. Keep up the good work. 👍
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
Thanks! Oh nice, good feedback, maybe I should keep working that one. Thanks for watching!
@LewisNakao
@LewisNakao 2 ай бұрын
You clearly got much better after the first few rounds. You also had great training partners helping you out too.
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
Thanks, I think I got more confident to try to enter throws and experiment as I got more comfortable with the flow of the sparring! It was definitely due to great training partners.
@doublechinmask3744
@doublechinmask3744 23 күн бұрын
Black belt you are doing randori with at around 06:00 is amazing training partner.
@Thecelestial1
@Thecelestial1 2 ай бұрын
I've been thinking about taking a break from bjj and going to judo as my stand up game has always been lacking. Excited to see your perspective.
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
Oh nice! That could definitely be fun - so far it is for me! Thanks for watching!
@mouthguardcomic
@mouthguardcomic 27 күн бұрын
I would say to do both as you will regret not maintaining in progress when you are ready for BJJ again. If you can do so, train once or a couple of times a week in Judo and keep going to BJJ or reduce a day and go two times a week to BJJ and two times a week to Judo.
@Thecelestial1
@Thecelestial1 26 күн бұрын
@@mouthguardcomic My time and financial resources won't permit that regrettably.
@mouthguardcomic
@mouthguardcomic 26 күн бұрын
@@Thecelestial1 I understand, life is a always there. I just always try to recommend to people that love BJJ not to stop training, because they will always want to come back. However, the road back will be harder and longer than when they left. I would love to start studying Judo (green belt in Judo) again too, but as a Brown Belt (one stripe) in BJJ, I am too close to the goal to change my focus. To compensate, I study and incorporate Judo into my BJJ routines or whenever I teach class.
@The1aw
@The1aw Ай бұрын
It was fun watching you do Judo 😊 What is the songs name that started about 6 minutes in?
@TheSonic1685
@TheSonic1685 18 күн бұрын
Well done mate, Judo is incredibly hard. I train Judo 3-4 days a week with an Olympian that runs an MMA gym and I also cross train jiu jitsu. I've experienced 2 kneecap dislocations doing Judo and have badly jarred 2 fingers and smashed a shoulder, or two. Keep at it, and I can attest you will see your BJJ improve drastically.
@nostromorayzar8163
@nostromorayzar8163 2 ай бұрын
Chuck is not your average black belt in Judo he was a top teir competitor.
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj Ай бұрын
i feel very lucky to have connected with him and the school!
@darkdrake13
@darkdrake13 2 ай бұрын
Coach must emphasizes foot sweep practice a lot. Those de ashi were great at every level belt.
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
I wish I had the eye to discern the level of foot sweeps, but I can say I was getting hit with quite a bit 😂
@davidzshen
@davidzshen Ай бұрын
Round 8 is not just a BJJ guy! I see you Matt Rothstein, glad to see you still out there training hard.
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj Ай бұрын
Ah yea I should’ve specified “in addition to being a judoka”
@glory2christcmj702
@glory2christcmj702 2 ай бұрын
I started at a BJJ gym, which has Judo classes every Friday (not very good at either), and Judo is great fun. Even though during randori, I'm usually the one getting thrown, it has sort of an exhilarating feeling to it. It is a great workout! I have a couple of throws that I feel somewhat confident in, even though I have to practice them a lot more. I hope the sport grows more in the US
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj Ай бұрын
yeah, "exhilarating" is definitely the right word for it! thanks for watching
@ForzaTerra89
@ForzaTerra89 Ай бұрын
Judo blue belt and you actually did pretty well and had good movements.
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj Ай бұрын
appreciate that! thanks for watching
@ForzaTerra89
@ForzaTerra89 Ай бұрын
@@joshbeambjj you kept talking about not doing the BJJ posture and a lot of newbies in Judo do that. Instinctually. Considering you can’t grab legs that stance is even less useful here. There’s really nothing you can do from that posture in judo, especially if someone has grips on you without telegraphing it a mile away. So I think you did well considering. Without the gi it’s different but it is better to stand up right offensively and defensively with the gi if you can get grips
@wm8712
@wm8712 2 ай бұрын
Very nice video. Also seems like a great place to train at.
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching, I’m glad you like it! It’s been an amazing experience so far at CJ Judo.
@thecubeman381
@thecubeman381 2 ай бұрын
I'm very lucky we focus on stand up throws in our Jiu Jitsu gym. I mostly train gi and our coach makes us even participate in Judo tournaments from time to time. Pulling off these throws can be quite difficult, more physically demanding than sweeps and submissions in my opinion, but super rewarding. Judo's great.
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj Ай бұрын
that's great to hear. where do you train at?
@METAMORFOSIS36911
@METAMORFOSIS36911 2 ай бұрын
I've trained with one of those guys! very cool, was wondering where he went. greetings from OC
@jimmychris4069
@jimmychris4069 2 ай бұрын
Which dude?
@METAMORFOSIS36911
@METAMORFOSIS36911 2 ай бұрын
​@@jimmychris4069 round 5 black belt
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj Ай бұрын
that's awesome! thanks for watching
@leftwingman
@leftwingman 2 ай бұрын
Did no one else notice that Chuck seems ambidextrous? Hit two nice uchi matas from both left and right sides.
@Heddu
@Heddu 2 ай бұрын
A black belt should know how to throw from both sides
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
I wish I noticed, but I was so busy being thrown 😂 I need to go back and watch the section again. It’s actually absurd to me how fast he enters. Thanks for watching and for your comment!
@anwarbolat
@anwarbolat 2 ай бұрын
Kumi kata is an invisible battle for non judokas 😂 I’m into my third year of judo and haven’t even grasped the basics. Once my sensei showed old style judo kumi kata techniques that are banned now, that shows the depth of hidden knowledge in judo.
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj Ай бұрын
TIL the japanese name for grip fighting! lol. Oh there are banned kumi kata techniques? I never would've guessed
@michaciemniewski9791
@michaciemniewski9791 2 ай бұрын
I do both (1 stripe white belt and green belt) and I must say I really like stand up game as much as ground one. When we spar at BJJ class guys just fear to fight standing... Even in no-gi. I believe BJJ should train more stand up game. I think old judo it is a system now broken into to. Olympic judo and BJJ. Sport aspect took away some of the practical application but still very useful and complementary arts.
@bam-bam500
@bam-bam500 2 ай бұрын
They all do KoSotoGari impressively well. Nice Dojo.
@akoh87
@akoh87 2 ай бұрын
Judo looks amazing
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
It’s so fun! Thanks for watching
@arantxaurrutia0
@arantxaurrutia0 2 ай бұрын
Crosstraining is life. If you can, do it as long as you can. Wrestling, judo, bjj, chidaoba, bohk.... It's grappling!
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely! I wanna try to do some wrestling next! Thanks for watching
@spinnetti
@spinnetti 2 ай бұрын
When they go for those hip throws and your arm is pulled across your body, simple drop your elbow down to the small of their back as its pulled and it will check the throw (if they are fast, they will then just flip around into ouchi or kouchi_
@sevasentinel4146
@sevasentinel4146 2 ай бұрын
Hey, you went to a place not too far from me! And I've seen Chuck at tournaments where his students compete. Nice video and respect for going out to try judo. Also at 7:30 No one should EVER do that. If Josh would have sat down on the knee of that kid's posted leg, it could have been a severe injury to the knee. Do a Tani Otoshi or a Ko Soto Gake; not something in between.
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
Oh nice! What school if you don’t mind me asking? Thanks for watching and for the comment! Oh Tori’s far leg? I’m too much of a noob to have noticed that myself, but now that you point it out, it does look precarious…
@RaveyDavey
@RaveyDavey 2 ай бұрын
I've done newaza at our local judo club (I"m also a BJJ blue belt but have a old youth judo experience) and I give their black belts problems on the ground. Doesn't go quite as well standing up! Throwing people who don't want to be thrown and know how to resist it, is really bloody hard. I really like and respect judo but I'm too for it. It hurts even though the club has an amazing mat - canvas over thick specialist judo foam over a custom built sprung wooden floor. I just cannot take being repeated dropped onto the floor.
@rexhamilton6381
@rexhamilton6381 2 ай бұрын
I’m about to turn 50. Crash mats are key to practice throws. Sprung floor is ideal for randori but not many places have that. My gym is mats on cement.
@Thejudonomad
@Thejudonomad 2 ай бұрын
Congratulations :) hope you really liked it . And this is just a glimpse of judo eheh . USA judo isn’t very developed , I’d happily bring you with me in my travels in strong countries like Japan France etc if you want to :)
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
Oh that’d be amazing! I was a Jiu Jitsu nomad in 2023, I see you’re a judo nomad, that’s awesome!
@israelcanada8969
@israelcanada8969 2 ай бұрын
Judo +bjj = happiness 😊
@user-sh7lw6nl2g
@user-sh7lw6nl2g 2 ай бұрын
BJJ + Judo = Unstoppable
@dereksmith6097
@dereksmith6097 2 ай бұрын
Nuce. I sure wish I could do this.I should have done it many years ago, but I was a karate guy. Now I am 60 and studying BJJ, but I have a replaced knee and another one with arthritis and I am too broken up to do this. Sad!
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
Well BJJ is awesome too for sure! Hope you enjoy doing that.
@raphaelhudson
@raphaelhudson 2 ай бұрын
You know a lot of throws for someone claiming to train pure BJJ :D This club seems like it has a really positive vibe. The way the black belts were just going with the throws, that is how you are actually supposed to do randori, but many clubs randori is basically no different than comp.
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
Lol thanks, it comes from self-study plus a handful of BJJ training partners who have helped me with judo before. I’ve always loved judo but never started classes until now. Yeah the vibe at CJ Judo is fantastic, and the black belts were really letting me work, it was great. Sucks that some clubs out there aren’t like that!
@chasMMA
@chasMMA Ай бұрын
It looks like the instructor, Professor Chuck Jefferson, is left handed? Or at least competes as a lefty? I only notice because I am right handed, but like to grip left foot forward, left hand on collar, and every time i do my training partner will mostly be caught off guard and takes a while to figure out how to drill.
@PoloLoneDragon
@PoloLoneDragon 2 ай бұрын
BJJ guy here. I recently decided to have a go at Judo. I joined a club, and it seemed great, but I found odd that they weren’t doing any stand-up randori. Then someone told me they haven’t done any in 10 years. They were doing some “ground randori” (basically BJJ rolling), and I was tapping everyone effortlessly. They weren’t loving it, and because I became everyone’s target, neither was I. After a couple of months, I decided not to attend anymore. The kind of practice and vibe you see in this video is what I’m looking for. Judo is a beautiful art and I want to learn it properly. I believe learning the throws without getting the chance to actually applying what you learn is an injustice to the art itself. Hopefully one day I’ll live somewhere with a club that can offer what you've experienced.
@SINdaBlock411
@SINdaBlock411 2 ай бұрын
maybe you shouldn't be such a dick then you wouldn't be a target
@Malacalypso
@Malacalypso 2 ай бұрын
Loved training w/ Chuck and Stan and the others, such good people, wish I still lived there. Just started BJJ and it's really fun. Checkout Shintaro Higashi channel, he has good videos on adapting Judo throws for BJJ.
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
Oh that’s dope! Were you just traveling and dropped in, or what? I’m subscribed to Shintaro as well, I need to study a lot more 😬😂 Thanks for the comment and for watching!
@Malacalypso
@Malacalypso 2 ай бұрын
I did Judo for like 3 years w/ Chuck at his old spots, I got to green belt but then had to move when the virus stuff hit. I should go visit him and check out his new place, see how the spring floors feel. Great video you did, really shows the fun and feel of the place.
@richosull
@richosull 2 ай бұрын
Man I miss judo, I kept getting hurt and just had to stop.
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj Ай бұрын
sucks to hear, what types of injuries were they?
@richosull
@richosull Ай бұрын
@@joshbeambjjankle, shoulder, knee rugby injuries compounded and basically I was too fat and kept rolling my ankles 😂 I've since lost weight and started goju ryu karate - it's a bit more controlled. The thing that frightens me about grappling sports is that you could pop your knee or shoulder in a training session. I can't risk my job for that.
@horiturk333
@horiturk333 2 ай бұрын
Lol BJJ is literally Judo without the throws and most of the stand up it’s wild to see people not realize that
@bruceparker6142
@bruceparker6142 2 ай бұрын
I totally agree. What do you get if a judoka spends 90% of his time doing newaza? It's amazing people don't get that.
@Neutronb0mb
@Neutronb0mb 2 ай бұрын
Except half the techniques in BJJ would be illegal in judo. And BJJ ground techniques are far more involved and complex than judo Newaza is now. BJJ now isn’t even the same as BJJ 20 years ago the techniques have evolved so much. Also the majority of BJJ takedowns used now are wrestling based using leg attacks - again against the rules in judo. They’ve diverged.
@YvesKeller
@YvesKeller 2 ай бұрын
Football is basketball without arms.
@SINdaBlock411
@SINdaBlock411 2 ай бұрын
@@Neutronb0mb "Except half the techniques in BJJ would be illegal in judo." ... no, that's a load of crap, you must have it confused with jutaijutsu, and those are forbidden in ANY grappling sport, whether it be judo, bjj, sambo, wrestling, you name it
@SINdaBlock411
@SINdaBlock411 2 ай бұрын
@@YvesKeller mma is gladiator fighting without actual lethal weapons ... basically pussy gladiators
@Sam-rb1id
@Sam-rb1id 2 ай бұрын
How long you been doing judo now? You look awesome in randori - you're wearing a white belt but from your throws look like you could be green or even blue!
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
Oh wow thanks! Hmmmm I think I’ve done like maybe 4 or 5 official judo classes? My count could be off. Most of what little I know from before comes from self-study as a part of my BJJ training, and asking some judo friends for help.
@kristofferlanghellefjrtoft8038
@kristofferlanghellefjrtoft8038 2 ай бұрын
Judo❤❤
@gigigigian3988
@gigigigian3988 2 ай бұрын
A good Judo guy will be hard to traw
@mrasshole9088
@mrasshole9088 2 ай бұрын
🙇‍♂️🤝
@enamlennahc1701
@enamlennahc1701 Ай бұрын
That kid slammed the fuck outta you @ 3:05 lmao - someone needs to repeat the speech coach gave, he must've been in restroom or something!
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj Ай бұрын
hahaha it was quite the slam 😂 it's okay though, i was there for it! i knew it was coming so i was cooperative with him lifting me
@marceloisoni9158
@marceloisoni9158 2 ай бұрын
Judo is hard on the body. I can no longer fall over and over again at 45 years of age.
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
Oof. How long did you do judo?
@marceloisoni9158
@marceloisoni9158 2 ай бұрын
@@joshbeambjj kind of 20 years, I guess. But I started at 21. I was already trown at a sea of blackbelts.
@uncommonsense4753
@uncommonsense4753 2 ай бұрын
Basic wrestling is Judo kryptonite.
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
Is it cuz of the ability to shoot for the legs in wrestling?
@ricardokerscher
@ricardokerscher Ай бұрын
why?
@bartdebruijn4599
@bartdebruijn4599 2 ай бұрын
A well times Uchi-Mata will leave you regretting your life choices.
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
Can confirm. I am now questioning my life choices.
@nicholasnj3778
@nicholasnj3778 2 ай бұрын
Much respect but imo (and Steve Scott freestyle Judo) there is Newaza in Judo and if that is not trained they are only trading 1/2 the art, the original idea of Ippon would be a throw that ends the fight(KO) if it’s not a big impact throw then the fight/spar should continue on the ground (at least for 20 seconds) for a submission attempt… Yardin Gerbi for example had one of the coolest submissions in Judo competition… too cool for Judo so they made it illegal
@Frenchieeeee
@Frenchieeeee 2 ай бұрын
that black belt was letting him work :)
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
100%, and for that, I am quite grateful… 😂
@Toast491
@Toast491 2 ай бұрын
I'm learning judo but it scaaares me. I'm genuinely terrified of being thrown. Has anyone got any recommendations on how to get over this? I'm guessing you'll suggest, 'keep getting thrown'? Aha.
@MontyQueues
@MontyQueues 2 ай бұрын
go watch the mr bean episode of judo lmao
@Toast491
@Toast491 2 ай бұрын
@@MontyQueues That's one I've actually not seen - I shall!
@thecubeman381
@thecubeman381 2 ай бұрын
The first thing everyone learns is probably how to fall safely. Tuck your chin, slap the mats with your arm, land on the back, don't cross your legs, all that. You're probably train breakfalls on your first day a lot to prevent any injuries and have these moves in your muscle memory. Most of the moves in Judo can be done lightly, and when training, it's encouraged to support your partners on their way down, not to drop 'em like a sack of potatoes. Just try to enjoy getting thrown in the beginning. It's gonna be pretty light at first, and when it gets harder later, you'll be used to it.
@MontyQueues
@MontyQueues 2 ай бұрын
i dont think he's asking "how to break fall"... it's more of some type of mental barrier of going to train in the first place @@thecubeman381
@renzotkac1236
@renzotkac1236 2 ай бұрын
clapping the mat real hard is the key, you may not clap the right way and get hurt but it will boost your morale and confident sky rock that you forget about your pain and your fear and slowly makes you a stronger person and trust me by just doing that in 1 or 2 months, falling wont scare you anymore. But if it's hurt so much, here is no shame to take a break , but remember NEVER give up, come back when you feel well and keep doing what you doing until you got what you want.
@svalovica
@svalovica 2 ай бұрын
Awesome video. Thank you for trying to expose Judo to people. I teach Judo at a BJJ/MMA gym and its quite hard to grow the program. I have around 20 people that come to my classes only for Judo (my students) but non of the academy students that do BJJ or MMA don't come at all. Like 0 respect for the art and sport. Imagine you have a chance to fully learn stand up and ground and you don't take advantage of that. I don't get it.
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! Of course, judo is phenomenal. Ah man - with it being so convenient to access at the same school, I would think more BJJ/MMA people who take advantage of that for their game.
@BillyTheKidsGhost
@BillyTheKidsGhost 2 ай бұрын
What a gentle school...
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
Is this sarcasm? Lol. Genuine question because it’s the first and only judo school I’ve ever been to, so I have nothing to compare it to.
@wayne_3791
@wayne_3791 2 ай бұрын
Serious question, I’m not trolling - is Judo going to work on someone NOT wearing a Gi? I know BJJ train no Gi and it works without a Gi, but to the untrained eye it seems like loads of Judo throws are relying on the thick, strong Gi fabric as “hand holds” for the “thrower” 🤷‍♂️
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
Good question. I do see a good number of judo throws used in no-gi, but obviously adapted for more traditional wrestling-type upper body grips (emphasizing underhooks, tricep grips etc.) We also see uchi matas as single leg defense, and lots of foot sweeps.
@wayne_3791
@wayne_3791 2 ай бұрын
@@joshbeambjj thanks for the reply. I’m interested in learning Judo rather than BJJ for fitness and enjoyment. I’m 50. Loved Karate in my youth but left it in the past long ago. But I did wonder how effective Judo was in the modern world, in a no Gi setting (street fight).
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
Of course! Thanks for the question. Ah I see, makes sense! One example that comes to mind immediately is how effective Ronda Rousey was in the UFC with her judo. That context seems like it would more closely mimic some elements of an actual fight (with striking) rather than just pure judo, while showing how effective judo can be without a gi.
@lbpltd34
@lbpltd34 2 ай бұрын
let’s see… does boxing work if the other guy is not wearing gloves? can you run if you’re not wearing shoes? can you shower if you don’t have towel? can you learn if you don’t have a clue?
@rolotomase1440
@rolotomase1440 2 ай бұрын
I think I'd be knocked out taking that many falls.
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
Luckily these mats are super bouncy 😂 I dunno if I could take that on traditional hard mats like we have in BJJ.
@rolotomase1440
@rolotomase1440 2 ай бұрын
​@@joshbeambjj I didn't know that was a thing -but I see the bounce from the floor. Do you break fall different?
@nicholasnj3778
@nicholasnj3778 2 ай бұрын
Curious why doesn’t the Randori include at least 20 - 30 seconds of ground time after hitting the mat( at least on a non ippon takedown?) … see Gerbi Choke in other comments
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj Ай бұрын
not entirely sure! After taking a few more classes at CJ Judo, we have done some newaza, but I haven't been to enough sessions yet to know how it's typically formatted. I'm gonna ask Chuck next time! I assume he formats every session a certain way for a reason.
@nicholasnj3778
@nicholasnj3778 Ай бұрын
@@joshbeambjj cool I did post links of Newwaza submission in Judo comp, Gerbi the most famous of all . curious if yo show them Gerbi winning the world championship , what they think of it?
@nicholasnj3778
@nicholasnj3778 Ай бұрын
@@joshbeambjj I want to know what he thinks of Gerbi winning with Newaza (and the others that have won with submissions)
@ricardokerscher
@ricardokerscher Ай бұрын
because it is dangerous for several people practicing tachi-waza while there are others in newaza.... tripping over those on the ground, throwing people into other people who are lying down, etc...
@nicholasnj3778
@nicholasnj3778 Ай бұрын
@@ricardokerscher ok but if the rules allow (20 seconds or whatever for a submission) and your not practicing it , then wouldn't you be at a disadvantage to those who do .... like Gerbi, her transition to the submission was brilliant and flawless, bet she practiced that over and over ... ok you'll probably y favorite was a outlier but sill one of my favorite subs of all time (Judo, BJJ or MMA, MMA would be Bert Johns Calf Slicer that was a thing of beauty , the way he counted the single leg with a calf slicer)
@giannimejia3080
@giannimejia3080 2 ай бұрын
Would love to do judo but im too injury prone im just stick to bjj🙃
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
What do you mean by injury prone?
@giannimejia3080
@giannimejia3080 2 ай бұрын
@@joshbeambjj i get thrown ones and my shoulder or joints pop out of place of i get big ass bumps in my arms is just better for me to stay away from judo ngl😭
@andrewkarl5174
@andrewkarl5174 2 ай бұрын
In Judo, why are the called warmups?
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
Hello! Not sure I understand. As opposed to what?
@gigigigian3988
@gigigigian3988 2 ай бұрын
I prefer judo better for standing technically and ground
@davegash1
@davegash1 2 ай бұрын
Hey Josh, on one of your shorts you were getting thrown left right and center by a few of the girls in your class. Could you upload the whole video of those? Unless you were co-operating they must have manoevered you in a good position for them, easily allowing them to break your balance and then throw you without using much force. I wanted to see how those girls did that because I suspect it was through kumi kata but you didn't realise. Or you were co-operating in which case then mystery solved and no need to see
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
Hey! Which video was it? I think you may have been talking about a giant open mat with a lot of people, at an event center (not CJ Judo). Does that sound right?
@YourBestFriendforToday
@YourBestFriendforToday 2 ай бұрын
Welcome to cross training Am a judo brown and bjj blue After a good year you’ll learn how to mix them and you’ll enter bjj tournaments and get extremely annoyed by guard pullers. :-D
@YourBestFriendforToday
@YourBestFriendforToday 2 ай бұрын
Also that floor was really good for taking impacts. Almost seemed like it was sprung
@mrtravelhub4313
@mrtravelhub4313 2 ай бұрын
bjj blue belt, with blackbelt cauliflowers
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@bundy4prez462
@bundy4prez462 2 ай бұрын
No newaza?
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
I guess not, is it standard to do in randori?
@JL-pu6bh
@JL-pu6bh Ай бұрын
​@@joshbeambjj not every randori, but once in a while there will be newaza well at least in my place. That's why not many judoka possess good ground game. I've been training judo for more than 8 years and I can say maybe I have the newaza skill of a late white belt or early blue belt in BJJ.
@gabrielepicco3582
@gabrielepicco3582 Күн бұрын
​@@joshbeambjjstandard in competition, yes
@sorenbuenneke6434
@sorenbuenneke6434 2 ай бұрын
You kind of look like Sensei Seth’s skinnier brother
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
TBH I always thought me and Sensei Seth could’ve been separated at birth
@dimitrisk.875
@dimitrisk.875 2 ай бұрын
Ura nage from white belt to white belt...hmm...
@joshbeambjj
@joshbeambjj 2 ай бұрын
Is that bad?
@thomasnunn1902
@thomasnunn1902 2 ай бұрын
A lot of places wouldn't be happy to see white belts doing ura nage (or wouldn't allow it) as it's such a big throw (definitely one of the more dangerous ones) - chance of nasty screw up with white belt much higher. At many UK (I'm British) clubs the "done thing" is to just pick someone up with ura nage to show that you had it but not to complete the slam. Throw is otherwise trained on crash mats. Maybe different in the US given the number of people who have wrestled? Anyway, great video showing a really healthy give-and-take randori atmosphere with the emphasis on attacking lots and not acting like it's shiai. All the best for your Judo journey!
@lbpltd34
@lbpltd34 2 ай бұрын
for all the what a fun session compliments being given to the instructor here i wondered the same thing. in fact, i’d have made sure white belts work only with the higher skilled players. it’s hard to learn from someone who knows little to nothing about something, yet quite easy to develop bad and dangerous habits. that ounce of prevention is worth more than any pound of cure. learn the hard way or learn the easy way, but there will be plenty of mistakes to learn from with such pairings.
@syn3rgyz
@syn3rgyz 2 ай бұрын
@@joshbeambjjyes
@JJR_83
@JJR_83 2 ай бұрын
They actively give up their backs though. Again, this proves to me that BJJ alone and Judo alone is not the answer.
@tatumergo3931
@tatumergo3931 2 ай бұрын
The problem with judo today is that it has become too much of a sport, and not enough of the complete martial art it was. Old school judo covered a lot of ground work. Just as we can still see it today in the Waseda University kosen judo style. At the time of the foundation of judo, the style used to be nothing more than a syncretization of all the jujutsu styles present in Japan at the time. P. S. Did you know that original judo had a section of atemi waza that covered all types of strikes? Mostly coming from the old jujutsu and yawara combat methods.
@pabloamericano4930
@pabloamericano4930 2 ай бұрын
I would not f-k with a judo guy in general. It takes one mistake for them to end your mobility and joints.
@iandavies6575
@iandavies6575 Ай бұрын
AS a first session as a newbie, they should be learning technique and not doing randori, that comes later
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