BJJ vs The Streets - My Biggest Takeaways From Bouncing

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Wiltse Brothers

Wiltse Brothers

Жыл бұрын

Professional BJJ Athlete Andrew Wiltse shares his wisdom from his years of competing and working security at the local bar scene. What to expect from a street fight, how to manage it, and how to better prepare yourself for a fight scenario.
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@PartyboyDanny
@PartyboyDanny Жыл бұрын
I trained with a guy that was a fantastic fighter. He got in a street fight and knocked his opponent out. The guy didn’t wake up. He had a brain bleed and was in a coma. Didn’t make it. The guy I trained with is still in prison as I write this Sometimes even if you win you lose 😢
@heymanhaha
@heymanhaha Жыл бұрын
For real? Dang. What country and city is this?
@Oleg_V
@Oleg_V Жыл бұрын
@@heymanhaha all over the world, I bet
@sigiligus
@sigiligus Жыл бұрын
​@@heymanhaha Everywhere women are allowed to vote.
@jrcogburn
@jrcogburn Жыл бұрын
its a scary fact man- that why double leg takedowns are a no-no. Damn good way to crack someones skull open. Avoid fights if possible. Dominate if not and Be prepared for the next fight, the legal one.
@Joey-dd7rh
@Joey-dd7rh Жыл бұрын
Good, i hope he has a bad time in prison. He should know better.
@tekopuakanapanapa6824
@tekopuakanapanapa6824 Жыл бұрын
I feel alot of bjj practitioners need to hear this. Delusion runs deep in this community.
@Joobkl
@Joobkl Жыл бұрын
Seems alot of Hollywood actors training BJJ and thinking they can take on anyone
@Mr.Schitzengigglez
@Mr.Schitzengigglez Жыл бұрын
I met a Marine vet, who was in a 1% club. He told me that if I tried to RNC him, he would just start stabbing me in the thigh. I think a lot of bjj practitioners should hear that, as well.
@watchandlearnbjj
@watchandlearnbjj Жыл бұрын
100%
@icepenguin7278
@icepenguin7278 Жыл бұрын
@@Mr.SchitzengigglezI mean that doesn’t beat a rnc. He’ll go out in less than 10
@Mr.Schitzengigglez
@Mr.Schitzengigglez Жыл бұрын
@@icepenguin7278 rock on with your bad self. I'd rather not get stabbed in the femoral artery, whilst putting a 5 second choke on a guy who can see it coming, and doesn't care whether or not I live.
@jasoncoomer1226
@jasoncoomer1226 10 ай бұрын
When i worked as a bouncer a decade ago we could usually avoid a fight by just telling the offending party (before it got out of hand too bad) that there was a woman that was outside the door asking for him. When he went out we would then tell him he is barred and then shut the door. Worked about 80% of the time with no problem.
@MrWinning43
@MrWinning43 6 ай бұрын
Great idea lmao
@ForeverYoungKickboxer
@ForeverYoungKickboxer 5 ай бұрын
We did that in the 90's! Told em there was a call for them on the pay phone.
@Wrathofkala
@Wrathofkala Ай бұрын
Killer advice -- just goes to prove you can avoid a lot of fights by communicating and using your brain.
@TheFamilyJiuJitsuAcademy
@TheFamilyJiuJitsuAcademy 12 күн бұрын
80% of the time 100% of the time!
@TheFamilyJiuJitsuAcademy
@TheFamilyJiuJitsuAcademy 12 күн бұрын
I saw a gym manager open the door for a TRex human hybrid after being invited to take it outside. He held the door open for him and then locked him outside.
@randallsanchez3161
@randallsanchez3161 10 ай бұрын
Former bouncer here. It's all true. It's soooo damn crazy when you first experience someone who is going full Leroy Jenkins into the fight. I thought I was a badass. I got blasted my first bounce and was saved my the crew. I thought I could take just one guy who was a bit drunk but dear god it was like he was fully cracked out on some go go juice. I was tired and sweating profusely. Some fights were brutal. I took a belt with buckle across the back once. It dropped me to my knees. I never took on a person alone after that first time. It was always me and 2 or 3 other guys minimum. We had a job to do and we wanted to avoid getting hurt in any way at all. I've kicked people on the ground, I've broken their bones, I've stomped on hands. And yet some people would still get up and want more. Bouncing is not for the faint of heart. Granted, some days were great especially if your work picked up a zero tolerance reputation. But there was always someone new that thought they were top dog and wanted to fight. BJJ was not as useful as I thought it would be. If they can reach it, they will attack it. Knees, groin, back, etc. I saw a guy think he had a good pin on one troublemaker only to find the guy gnawing on his shin. I saw a front mount get his groin beaten while trying to beat the other guy. One guy was getting choked out from the rear on the ground. The crewmember had his legs wrapped around the dude's waist. The troublemaker grabbed a leg and tried to pull it to his mouth to eat the crewmember's ankle. He ended up chomping down on the crewmember's shoe....crazy stuff. Talk was your best friend. Deescalate deescalate as much as you could. Talking the person out of making a bad decision was the best way to bounce a person. Otherwise someone was going to get hurt and often it was both parties. The worst ones were domestic disputes. Women were my greatest bane as they would spawn some of the worst situations you ever wanted to get into. Of all of the fights, women were the reason for the majority. Separating her from him was high priority as you could calm down the man. Calming the woman was the hardest. Sometimes you had to be very direct about your threats to her. Forget the police angle. You had to let her know that her boyfriend might beat a crewmember, but the crew will make sure to go through her to get to the boyfriend. She would not come out unscathed. Sometimes that worked. Others were too entitled to believe it.
@loto7197
@loto7197 9 ай бұрын
Such a well written comment, I enjoyed reading this more than I enjoyed watching the video
@genxer1
@genxer1 9 ай бұрын
Friend of mine was a bouncer in Tallahassee, FL, a college town, back in the 90's. He also used to talk about how many problems were caused by women and how much pf a pain it was to deal with them.
@TheHailstorm77
@TheHailstorm77 9 ай бұрын
That’s the problem with a lot of BJJ or grapplers. They think that’s the all art. You gotta be well rounded and be able to do mostly stand ups. On the ground and on your back is the worst way. People just want to study the easy way of fighting by just wrestling or grappling but yet, they don’t realize asphalt, concrete or gravel is your worst enemy!
@trixielonglegs8320
@trixielonglegs8320 9 ай бұрын
NOTHING WORSE THAN A DRUNK WOMAN... MANY WARS WERE STARTED THIS WAY... FORMER LEAD SINGER, VERY POPULAR BAND... WOMEN DON'T THINK RULES, OR SEXUAL ASSAULT APPLIES TO THEM... THE FN WORST !!
@kieranlernihan3581
@kieranlernihan3581 8 ай бұрын
Very well said 😵‍💫. That’s one crazy synopsis. Fair play to you for taking on those challenges. When alcohol or drugs come into the equation it must be insanely difficult for a sober guy doing a nights work to take that on.
@joominatore6527
@joominatore6527 Жыл бұрын
I worked as a bouncer 18 years and have worked with a lot of other bouncers. All of the guys i've worked had gotten into a fight 5 times more than i had. Although i'm a judo black belt and a very big guy, i also tried my best to be polite with everyone. Polite and humble. I treated people with a lot of respect and that solved most of the issues that other guys felt they needed to fight about to solve.
@sword-and-shield
@sword-and-shield Жыл бұрын
Yeah, works when you are bouncing the wine pubs, not the rank bars/clubs where they aren't mutts.
@maxk880
@maxk880 Жыл бұрын
@@sword-and-shield actually not true. Even the most hot headed guys will calm down if you treat them respectfully. Ask them what's wrong and why they are upset. If another drunk person asks it, they'll get mad. But if you're a big, calm, confident bouncer, they'll usually stay chill
@shaunclubberlang2887
@shaunclubberlang2887 Жыл бұрын
@@maxk880 That hasn't been my experience. When I was polite people saw it as weakness and thought I was scared of them. Once I perfected the art of taking to them in a flat, expressionless tone, with eyes that weren't angry, but weren't friendly and simply said, you gotta go, in way that implied - you can go quietly or not, the choice is your but either way works for me, then people stayed very chill. This was a long time ago though, and it was a version of me that no longer exist. I like to be nice, but sometimes you have become not nice. I don't like that.
@sbgbreakfastclub
@sbgbreakfastclub Жыл бұрын
Definitely the combo of being confident and polite helps deescalate. Polite to make up for confidence not so much. Confident but impolite also not so much.
@sword-and-shield
@sword-and-shield Жыл бұрын
@@maxk880 Its absolutely true, but this is BS " Even the most hot headed guys will calm down if you treat them respectfully" again bouncing at your local coffee shop, sure. Words work with the mutts, when you bounce rank bars there aren't many mutts, but there are experienced trouble makers. So it worked for the mutts YOU bounced, but stating it as a matter of fact, just proves your gross lack of experience.
@TyAki801
@TyAki801 Жыл бұрын
As a practitioner of BJJ and Muay Thai I still think the best form of self defense is defusing the situation. Real fights come with dumb consequences and stupid injuries.
@canismajoris6733
@canismajoris6733 Жыл бұрын
Yeah because of course you can just always defuse a situation right...
@AmericanMadeMud
@AmericanMadeMud Жыл бұрын
First day as a bouncer I was told, "It is not your job to fight. It is your job to maintain control. If you have to fight you didn't do your primary job correctly." I never had to fight anyone as a bouncer. I removed people from my bar but I didn't fight with them.
@colnixon8989
@colnixon8989 Жыл бұрын
​@@AmericanMadeMud You were lucky then. Some people are beyond sweet talk.
@AmericanMadeMud
@AmericanMadeMud Жыл бұрын
@@colnixon8989 Maintaining control starts at the door with who you allow in. Paying attention to what's going on is important. Having plans for different situations and a team approach was how we kept the peace. Luck had nothing to do with it.
@WastePlace
@WastePlace Жыл бұрын
@@canismajoris6733sometimes the best option isn’t available, doesn’t mean it isn’t still the best option
@mrthebillman
@mrthebillman 9 ай бұрын
Bouncer for decades in Riverside and San Bernardino, 1. Get control of their head 2. Find the hardest thing close by 3. Forcefully maneuver the head into contact with the hard thing 4. Done.
@jmz2144
@jmz2144 10 күн бұрын
5. Go to prison for manslaughter
@mithrandirthegrey7644
@mithrandirthegrey7644 Жыл бұрын
Not to even mention knifes, guns, bottles etc. I bounced to make some money while in college. I’m not really a fighter, just a tall dude who works out. Luckily the fact that I’m 6’7 kept most people away from trying to fight me. The most common issue was actually women getting way too drunk and causing issues. My biggest fear was always somebody trying to shank me. Doesn’t matter how big and strong you are - if somebody stabs you in the wrong place you’re dead.
@JohnSmith-cz3us
@JohnSmith-cz3us Жыл бұрын
This is 100% the truth. Always be weary of weapons, especially common ones like knives even if you’re well built.
@civiprepper
@civiprepper 11 ай бұрын
Same situation in my youth. did bouncing for about 6 years whilst at university and a masters. Did BJJ just for fun, but its not great for actual self defence. on a door the last thing you want to do is roll with someone one on one, because often they are not on their own. that's not to say its completely unless, as it does teach great footwork and help with both physical and mental agility, but the truth is it has its limits like most martial arts. The best thing you can do when someone has a knife is stay on your feet and run when possible. Don't be the guy who gets sucker punched or worse stabbed whilst grappling with someone.
@mithrandirthegrey7644
@mithrandirthegrey7644 11 ай бұрын
@@civiprepper yup. Never assume that honorable combat is a thing on the streets. The best thing is just to look intimidating if you bounce - it will end most situations before they begin - especially if you're a big dude. Luckily I don't bounce anymore - and haven't done so since I graduated in 2012.
@BeepBoop2221
@BeepBoop2221 11 ай бұрын
​@@civiprepperwhat happens when a person misses a punch? They clinch. It's always a good idea to have a mixed set of training.
@gparsr
@gparsr 10 ай бұрын
Teenage gang swarming-intervening to diffuse a bullying situation, where did all these young men come from all of the sudden? Good that I focused on verbal de-escalation…
@Brocuzgodlocdunfamdogson
@Brocuzgodlocdunfamdogson Жыл бұрын
“You’re gonna get exhausted.” That sentence alone nails it. Pretty much every street fight I’ve ever witnessed was won by the person with the most stamina.
@itsmatt2105
@itsmatt2105 Жыл бұрын
Long distance wilderness mountaineer/ski racer here, (135-150 miles in 4 days, unsupported is normal) most of my wins have been, not because I was faster than everybody else, no, usually the guys at the front of the pack are WAY faster than I am but in my normal mountaineering trips, I always solo, breaking trail in deep snow, pulling a sled. I've got endurance OUT THE ASS. When it comes down to the last 15-20 miles, it's a contest to see who has any gas left and can manage any kind of sprint. It's not uncommon for me to just be getting fully warmed up and really ready to ski the last day so I'm able to finish incredibly strongly where my competitors barely drag themselves across the finish line and basically die, they are completely empty and have been that way for the past day plus. First time I realized this was the race that I drove a guy from the # 2 finishing team (I was #1 and solo) most of the day back to his house (it was on my way) and he, despite being much younger and an actual racer, not just a mountaineer like I am, slept almost the entire trip, he was just absolutely, completely and totally exhausted whereas I had broke trail for over half the race and felt completely fine and drove all day without problem the day after we finished. One of the things I've noticed some of the racers do is take stimulants, like energy gels and stuff. This might help in the short term but we're going to be at this for 4 days and nights and stimulants might help briefly unlock your reserves but they won't give you access to something that isn't there and no matter how powerful the stimulant, it won't help you on day 4 if you're not built up and prepared to still be putting out high energy. Fights seem to last seconds, maybe a minute but those seconds are the longest seconds of your life.
@nickwiszniewski4281
@nickwiszniewski4281 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been in dozens of street fights , won some lost some. Advice- don’t lose, im deaf in one ear, been stabbed and have damage to my brain. Having said that I will always win now. Avoid, if you can’t, be sober or at least not drunk, and when it comes to it hit them first, hard, use something nearby if you can ( ashtray, brick etc) fast, a lot, with your palm elbow knee or forehead, do not punch, you will fuc* it up, the only time I punch is to the solar plexus.This done right will end a fight be sure to bring your knee into his face as he folds, scan your area and then get the hell out of there fast. Above all if you have the confidence of being a good street brawler then you should avoid it. They will normally have friends around , unless it’s a group of squaddies people who can fight generally wont start one, so terrify their friends by being savage as fuck if you are not prepared to chew someone else’s face if you have to forget about street fighting. It’s not weak to avoid a fight.
@dubstepXpower
@dubstepXpower Жыл бұрын
You'll have a lot more stamina of you train bjj since it becomes muscle memory.
@itsmatt2105
@itsmatt2105 Жыл бұрын
@@nickwiszniewski4281 A battle avoided is a battle won.
@nickwiszniewski4281
@nickwiszniewski4281 Жыл бұрын
@@itsmatt2105 absolutely
@RockStarInLife
@RockStarInLife Жыл бұрын
I was a 260LB bouncer in San Francisco at a high end club where we all wore Tuxedos in the early 2000’s. Deescalation was always my first choice because even when you win a fight you still lose (broken hand, torn up clothes, broken jewelry etc). Even when someone straight up told me they bet they could kick my ass and wanted to fight… I would deescalate by agreeing that they looked too tough for me and I agreed they could kick my ass. Then I would crack a joke and earn their respect. Win-Win because they didn’t try to fight others that night as well.
@rdeloges7957
@rdeloges7957 10 ай бұрын
100 percent this! Wow, at 260 the fact that dudes would run their mouth to you just shows how dumb guys can be.
@PB22559
@PB22559 10 ай бұрын
@@rdeloges7957 It's called alcohol and or drugs
@danielfenton1686
@danielfenton1686 10 ай бұрын
Fuck the state for giving these degenerate subhumans any leg up. There's so many insecure scared dudes that want to dominate and hurt others to fill a void in their chest and if you destroy them you are fucked. The state protects them essentially
@tubblestop414
@tubblestop414 10 ай бұрын
​@@rdeloges7957Weight don't matter in a street fight. Humans objectively have fragile bodies.
@rdeloges7957
@rdeloges7957 10 ай бұрын
Really? Weight doesn't matter? Oh ok. that's new to me. @@tubblestop414
@brianoh8192
@brianoh8192 Жыл бұрын
This man's words are so true. I worked 0 years as a bouncer.
@Markone99
@Markone99 10 ай бұрын
I disagree and think he is a pompous liar with biased propaganda. I also have worked 0 days as a bouncer
@Ieatpaste23
@Ieatpaste23 10 ай бұрын
@@Markone99 You guys are both wrong, and I also worked 0 days as a bouncer.
@alst4817
@alst4817 9 ай бұрын
I worked 10 years as a Toyota Camry and I agree
@enriqueserrano7413
@enriqueserrano7413 9 ай бұрын
You guys are not understanding this stands in a lot bigger issue that this guy fails to understand, what makes you guys all wrong. I have worked 5 years as an electrician
@clv603
@clv603 9 ай бұрын
It's true. I wasn't the bouncer
@sumtingwong4997
@sumtingwong4997 6 ай бұрын
So funny and informative. My bjj blackbelt buddy got in a bar fight while trying to break up a fight. He took a guy down but landed hard with his knee on the edge of an overturned bar stool. Broken kneecap. A year later he still has pain and has a hard time training like he used to. Any random thing can go badly in a real fight.
@adestickbaby
@adestickbaby 4 күн бұрын
That hero middleman getting fucked up is terrible. I watched a two on two and didn't get involved i huge guy I knew said 'If I was there I would have...' funny coz in 5"5 and have no training. I've seen and heard the peace keeper getting injured or killed before. I didnt see anyone being taken advantage of in that scrap so I didnt feel bad about my position. I did talk to the police and gave one guy some ointment for his knee though. P S. A neighbourhood friend was assaulted meters away from me last night. That dude has just had brain surgery. They could have killed him. This video is a great reminder of reality.
@littlebighumancom
@littlebighumancom Жыл бұрын
I was a bouncer myself in college. Almost 50 now. Everything you said is true. And damn near impossible to explain to people that have been brainwashed by Hollywood TV shows and movies their whole life.
@fireandiron4181
@fireandiron4181 Жыл бұрын
I am a former Marine, current bouncer and amateur MMA fighter. Most of the guys who actually get in the Octagon at my gym know what's up, but a lot of the hobbyist BJJ guys and even the hobby kickboxers who never go beyond light sparring would be in for a really rude awakening if they ever had to deal with a big, pissed off guy who genuinely wanted to hurt them.
@michaelzero5278
@michaelzero5278 Жыл бұрын
The one on drugs are the worst. I use pepper spray and I get out of there.
@Freud_Mayweather
@Freud_Mayweather Жыл бұрын
​@@michaelzero5278 doesn't always work, make sure you got the good shit and it's not expired, because someone tried spraying me with the camp store bullshit, maybe it was expired, but all it did was help me decide that I fully wanted to beat the dudes ass.
@noway5266
@noway5266 Жыл бұрын
​@Fire and Iron I've been training since 2015, and I still carry everywhere.
@fireandiron4181
@fireandiron4181 Жыл бұрын
@@noway5266 I do as well. Doesn’t matter how good you can fight, if you got 3 guys attacking you, you’re probably fucked if you don’t have a gun.
@danielmontilla1197
@danielmontilla1197 Жыл бұрын
This paints Judo in a pretty good light. Clinching and hard throws, emphasis on takedown into submission transitions, explosive hit-and-go style of newaza, no guard work, focus on top positions only, good balance and fitness as a standard like in wrestling...
@vids595
@vids595 Жыл бұрын
Defiantly.
@ars-almadel_salomonis9680
@ars-almadel_salomonis9680 Жыл бұрын
Well put.
@ItsMeTyScott
@ItsMeTyScott Жыл бұрын
He is talking about Jiu-Jitsu but I guess judo is rooted in Jiu-Jitsu.
@thelifeofpieman
@thelifeofpieman Жыл бұрын
@@ItsMeTyScott BJJ is more a derivative of old school judo
@danielmontilla1197
@danielmontilla1197 Жыл бұрын
@@ItsMeTyScott BJJ descends directly from Judo though, when Maeda came to Brazil he taught Kano's Jiu Jitsu, a.k.a. Judo, to the Gracies. What Andrew describes here as optimal grappling for self defense is closer to Judo and old school Gracie Jiu Jitsu than sports BJJ, that's why I said it's a sort of vindication for Judo.
@TheSandkastenverbot
@TheSandkastenverbot 10 ай бұрын
I ended 4 fights just by knowing how to soothe the egos of the agressors. It's all about hurt egos. Once you understand that you can end most fights
@Lambdamale.
@Lambdamale. 29 күн бұрын
I can see it. De-escalation is an overlooked art.
@mr.nobody9697
@mr.nobody9697 10 ай бұрын
This is the most honest and realistic assessment of BJJ in the streets. I come across a lot of mma fanboys that constantly think a street fight is no different than an mma match.
@kielhawkins9529
@kielhawkins9529 Жыл бұрын
The best combat art is situational awareness. Being able to see trouble coming and avoid it or place yourself in an advantageous position is king.
@stevenswitzer5154
@stevenswitzer5154 Жыл бұрын
100%. I got jumped and I saw the second guy coming. I didnt let on and threw guy1 into his friend. Had I not been paying attention that could have easily been a haymaker to the back of my head.
@itsmatt2105
@itsmatt2105 Жыл бұрын
The battle avoided is a battle won!
@LibertarianGalt
@LibertarianGalt Жыл бұрын
This becomes easier the more you train other styles. Knowing when someone is throwing a punch is easier when you train boxing. Dancing is great for foot movement. Lots you can do outside of just a single style to improve knowledge which translates to situational awareness.
@newagain9964
@newagain9964 Жыл бұрын
Fax. I’m undefeated. 2-0 in fights. But most impressive are the 15 or so fights I’ve avoided due to awareness. Life is to short for all that nonsense which could include hospital bills, jail and worse.
@TheSquad4life
@TheSquad4life 10 ай бұрын
I always say this! I’m glad some others get it. Walking around like you’ve a S on your chest will only bring stress
@joelchapple1
@joelchapple1 Жыл бұрын
"A brown belt that's been punched in the mouth is now a purple belt" 😂😂😂😂😂 whole thing was hilarious, good show and honest af boi
@mistersonnen848
@mistersonnen848 Жыл бұрын
It's an old bjj saying that every punch to the head takes away one of your belts
@vanivermo
@vanivermo Жыл бұрын
@@mistersonnen848 lose your sonic rings every hit
@anon2034
@anon2034 Жыл бұрын
@@vanivermo lol
@bochafish
@bochafish Жыл бұрын
Carlson Gracie quote
@djjohnnytreble-drumandbass3849
@djjohnnytreble-drumandbass3849 Жыл бұрын
@@mistersonnen848 I heard this.
@iDanDelf
@iDanDelf 11 ай бұрын
Bro, I've been working doors since I was 19... I'm 41 now, you're 100% on point! Been saying it for years, yet only people who's been involved in street fights, actually understand this!
@trevortaylor9536
@trevortaylor9536 Жыл бұрын
I unfortunately had to fight a roommate/coworker that weighs at least 75 lbs more than me last night. The small amount of training I had allowed me to get close, take him down, and choke him out without having to do any real damage. BJJ/wrestling allowed me to defend myself physically and legally. I haven’t trained in a couple years but I will definitely be going to a gym this week to start back up.
@sbarmiueenl
@sbarmiueenl Ай бұрын
If you had to fight a roommate, de-escalation or awareness training is what you most likely need. That never happens without some fluorescent red flags flashing beforehand. Sometimes, it's worth moving out and finding better mates.
@kielhawkins9529
@kielhawkins9529 Жыл бұрын
Something a coach said about the MMA stuff, is get good with one type of art (grappling, striking etc) and learn enough of the others to be useful. It then use those secondary arts to funnel opponents into your primary method. Which sounded reasonable to me to solve the “not enough hours in a day to learn everything” issue.
@stephenhughes5156
@stephenhughes5156 Жыл бұрын
That's good advice. And generally in MMA the best one to focus on would be either wrestling or boxing. Moreso wrestling. But those two are probably the best two to focus on. Then it's just a case of learning enough BJJ to not get caught in submissions too easily, and then it's not too hard to add some kicks to your boxing.
@bane3991
@bane3991 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, have knowledge in all areas but specialize in 1. I cross train. I can't take anyone down in BJJ haha I just can't do it. I am terrible. But when I do complete mma I can take guys down because I use striking to set up a take down. So my kickboxing helps my grappling in a sense.
@Jaburu
@Jaburu Жыл бұрын
@@stephenhughes5156 why boxing? take kickboxing or western Muay Thai and wrestling and be sure to have some exposure to ground from time to time. done
@stephenhughes5156
@stephenhughes5156 Жыл бұрын
@@Jaburu Well on paper kickboxing is superior to boxing because its more weapons. In reality, though, I think boxing tends to be more useful because you're gunna have much better hands than a kickboxer and better footwork too. Most strikes that are thrown are punches, most KOs are from punches, and the best way to set up kicks anyway are through having good punches. And then you have to be careful with kicking anyway when youre dealing with a skilled grappler. Besides, it's not too hard to learn to throw some leg kicks or whatever anyway- much less complicated than learning how to really box. Muay thai vs kickboxing beats boxing in pure striking. But in MMA, I think boxing is generally superior. It seems like that has generally been the recipe for a good fighter: a wrestling base combined with boxing. So if I had 100 'points' to allocate in making the ideal fighter, it would probably be something like: Wrestling: 50. Boxing: 30. Kickboxing/Muay Thai: 10. BJJ: 10.
@jooot_6850
@jooot_6850 Жыл бұрын
@@Jaburu Boxing focuses purely on your hands, has really good head movement and other defensive tools, and is generally a lot “easier” to learn because of it’s specific focus. Anyone without physical disabilities can be trained to throw a half decent punch which is sometimes enough if the opponent is even less trained. Throwing punches is also way safer than kicks because you’re gonna stay on both your feet. Kicks are great, definitely, but punching can be used in any scenario and they compromise you a lot less. It’s easier to pull a punch than it is to stop a roundhouse that’s for sure!
@Stahlvanten
@Stahlvanten Жыл бұрын
These stories great in dire times like these. And in my 18 years of training I have only met one person who could actually be semi effective in disarming knives; and he wasnt a martial artist, he was a paratrooper and willing to die.
@JonOcasio
@JonOcasio Жыл бұрын
Airborne... :D
@Gabriel-to5gd
@Gabriel-to5gd Жыл бұрын
That’s a skill I wanna possess but never get to use😂
@LordYanSpeaks
@LordYanSpeaks Жыл бұрын
Blagoi Ivanov is a guy that has a win over Fedor Emilianenko in combat sambo. Yet, he was stabbed in the heart in a night club. So trying to disarm people is a big no no.
@sword-and-shield
@sword-and-shield Жыл бұрын
The stupidity is in thinking disarm in the first place. I have been in two unarmed knife fights while bouncing, and stuck both time, but i am alive. it is always situational, but your overall experience, not training, will make the biggest difference. Most of the time you will feel it before you see it anyway, unless they are some mutt.
@brophymusprime593
@brophymusprime593 Жыл бұрын
In the US army the two things they beat into your head about knife fighting are : 1) don't knife fight. 2) one or both of you IS going to be cut. Airborne!
@whiteorchid5412
@whiteorchid5412 Жыл бұрын
In a self defense scenario it's best to have both striking and grappling skills. Cardio training is crucially important. I once was a sparing partner for a CA Golden Gloves heavyweight boxer who ran 5-10 miles almost every day . I could go toe to toe with him for the first two 3 minute rounds but soon got exhausted dropped my guard and he would start landing blows. I was slender lean and cut. He was chubby and out weighed me by 50 - 60 lbs. So another important lesson don't judge a book by its cover or you could be surprised by someone who you mistakenly think looks out of shape.
@barryirvingj1813
@barryirvingj1813 10 ай бұрын
Indeed
@davesmith826
@davesmith826 10 ай бұрын
Yup, and the more muscle you have the greater the strain it places on your body's cardiovascular system. Fat does not require oxygen to function, though it does require energy (from muscles) to be carried. Moral of the story: a fat guy can have 15 good rounds in him while a guy with a BMI of 10 who looks like an Adonis might gas in five. Look no further than Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua for proof of this principle. The only muscle anyone needs in combat sports is functional, not, as Joshua still hasn't realised, aesthetic.
@Sionnach1601
@Sionnach1601 9 ай бұрын
@@davesmith826 Sounds like anti -logic to me
@Sionnach1601
@Sionnach1601 9 ай бұрын
There's a lot of that in society, a lot of fat-shaming people who are actually very fit but just thick-set, men or women. People by and large, are stupid.
@davesmith826
@davesmith826 9 ай бұрын
It's entirely logical - if the muscle is not functional, i.e. not used for the actual use of fighting. Everyone who has trained in martial arts for any amount of time knows this. Pack on too much muscle and you become slower, easier to hit, and stiffer. @@Sionnach1601
@5ynthesizerpatel
@5ynthesizerpatel 9 ай бұрын
My favourite self-defense myth is the non-telegraphed punch - I've seen guys run 10 yards, with their right arm cocked fully back, while screaming at the guy they want to punch that they are going to knock him TFO, and they still connected. Pure aggression can count for a lot
@interestedparty7523
@interestedparty7523 2 ай бұрын
Fights are explosive, the person who freezes usually loses.
@agnidas5816
@agnidas5816 Ай бұрын
a lot of people have a death wish.
@RealRanton
@RealRanton Жыл бұрын
The Mario music makes this perfect
@TheeCapN
@TheeCapN 5 ай бұрын
This China man is also sponsored by Panda Express.
@XXXxXXXxXXXXxxxxXXXxXXxXXX12
@XXXxXXXxXXXXxxxxXXXxXXxXXX12 3 ай бұрын
wild ranton spotted? wtf????
@physicsg33k
@physicsg33k Жыл бұрын
I started working as a bouncer on 6th Street in Austin Texas circa 1991. At that time, I had boxed (USABF/GG/AAU}, wrestled folk and Greco (never a great wrestler), and held a Brown Belt in Judo (competed AAU). I had also held a Black Belt in Kempo and Tang Soo Do. I had trained in Muay Thai in the Inansanto curriculum. I have been training in martial arts including BJJ/GJJ and submission wrestling my entire life. I worked over a decade in total between the ages of 18-37 in clubs as security. Mostly to supplement my EMT and paramedic and carpentry incomes. Christmas money, vacations, etc. That sort of thing. With that predication, everything you have said is absolutely spot on! I have trained with Dog Brothers Kali and all sorts of 'guru' types. I have seen some effective weapons defenses, but never seen any that I really wanted to try. I have been stabbed twice, shot once (not a bar, but a party with other bouncers). Everything you think you know is, for lack of better way to say it is--"F-ALL tits on a boar hog useless" if the other guy's motive is to kill you and you want to look 'cool'. I sincerely appreciate your video. It was genuine, factual, and accurate. Congrats on being 'undefeated on the streets' I wish I could say the same. But, even the worst grappling match, boxing match, or kickboxing match I've ever had. Even when I've been knocked out cold. Pales into comparison to the time I wrestled a meth head ex con, 40 lbs lighter than me, while on duty as a paramedic. Truly a frightening experience. It was an actual life or death situation. I had zero back up! My partner was a petite young woman. The only that saved me was being fit and having a solid Judo and wrestling base mixed with my slightly above average boxing. Again, just damn good video!
@leso204
@leso204 Жыл бұрын
Nail on the head' all the fancy stuff wont save you from an amped up coke head or a speed freak i know been there knocked out Ect , one thing i learned dont go to the floor with your agressor you will always get kicked by his mates other thing was take the air away windpipe grab/choke-out stay on your feet follow up from there ...................
@squirelova1815
@squirelova1815 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes...trying to control superhuman Demoniacs while alone with them in the back of a moving ambulance cab; been there, done that with FDNY in Washington Heights and Harlem and I had to rely on God's mercy and the reflexes He gifted me with. I was able to instantly "discover" techniques like "sticky palm" and various others to deflect and decelerate kicks and such and even made 'friends' with a "Savage Nomad" biker we found spread eagle on a liquor store floor after I finally convinced him to have a tube of glucose gel. Good Times...
@smellymala3103
@smellymala3103 Жыл бұрын
Hey based, I tattooed down there in the early 00s, I am wiry, I like to carry a pistol at least a couple blades in those days. Hahah oh man auto knives and brass weights in those days, coming off a god damn neon fixed gear packing a .38 🥲 do you ever miss it?
@physicsg33k
@physicsg33k Жыл бұрын
@@paulbarclay4114 In my experience, the three arts that worked best for me were Judo, Greco, Muay Thai. I have a Black Belt in Kempo and my Kempo instructor, God rest his soul, was a Black Belt in Judo, Shotokan, Kyokushin, and Nippon Kempo. (I previously said RyuKyu, but that was me misremembering. That was my other Kempo instructor). He was an old cop from Texas (DPS???). We did Bogu for years! So, I sort of had that MMA background before it was cool. Muay Thai is great art. I don't think its the only 'real' art that works. BJJ/GJJ has some effective stuff on the ground. Most of the self-defense curriculum for stand up is just plain idiotic! Get you killed stone cold dead. Knowing the guard and being able to control someone from bottom momentarily has its uses. But, my go to moves as bouncer was an arm drag to an RNC. Most people have no idea what is going on when you arm drag and have their back. If they squared up, it was boxing, Muay Thai, and old school Kempo Karate. Nothing fancy just front kicks, knees, punches. Although, I did chop a guy in the throat one time, but I was standing to the side of him when a huge fight just erupted. He was a giant football player from TU. Bigger than me and I'm a big dude. He had a reputation for busting up clubs and bars. So, I just delivered a shot right to the throat. No wasting time. Just 'whap'! And into the fray. To my surprise, he dropped and his screeching girlfriend drug his big ass out of their choking and wheezing. We fought weeks later and that end with me having a black eye, busted nose, and he had a broken jaw, broken nose, and missing some teeth. I did not start it. Did not want it. But, I sure as shit finished it.
@physicsg33k
@physicsg33k Жыл бұрын
@@paulbarclay4114 We're more or less on the same page. I agree with you about Muay Thai's effectiveness.
@ChosenPlaysYT
@ChosenPlaysYT Жыл бұрын
The exhaustion thing hits you like a ton of bricks. There is just no simulation or preparation for a real world full on resistance from another person who truly wants to hurt you. It wears you out mentally and physically insanely fast, like less than 30 seconds fast. I remember being a personal trainer thinking I was hot shit athletically, got in 1 real fight and the first thing that hit me was “holy shit I’m worn out” like literally 20 seconds into it.
@jadedpaladin6685
@jadedpaladin6685 11 ай бұрын
Yes. This!
@adamopez5815
@adamopez5815 10 ай бұрын
You have to learn to breath...this is why we boxers exhale on every punch.
@Sionnach1601
@Sionnach1601 9 ай бұрын
@@jadedpaladin6685 Oh God I would heartily agree with you but for that awful diction "Yes. This". Cripes, try a little bit of actual English expression for once.
@jadedpaladin6685
@jadedpaladin6685 9 ай бұрын
@Sionnach1601 Yes. Also this!
@derekaugust872
@derekaugust872 8 ай бұрын
Nah. A competition will prepare you for it cardio wise.
@michaelwolejszo6445
@michaelwolejszo6445 10 ай бұрын
100% agree on not going to the ground. My first street fight after learning BJJ, I took one guy down into an arm bar and his buddy just kicked me in the head.
@interestedparty7523
@interestedparty7523 10 ай бұрын
Where you KO’ed or did you get up and beat his ass? Don’t blame you if you got KTFO, many would
@michaelwolejszo6445
@michaelwolejszo6445 10 ай бұрын
​@@interestedparty7523 nah I got lucky and it didn't knock me out. I was drunk though so I think the nerve disconnect was blocked, lol. It did sober me up and I was able to walk away. They didn't follow.
@wheelofcheese100
@wheelofcheese100 10 ай бұрын
Same (kinda). Took a guy down and thought I had it made easy. Little did I know he had some friends with him lol. Luckily the bouncers broke it up fast. It would have got ugly for me pretty quick. Lesson learned 😊
@sugardaddy2157
@sugardaddy2157 9 ай бұрын
@@michaelwolejszo6445break his arm
@croatianwarmaster7872
@croatianwarmaster7872 8 ай бұрын
Why didnt you just break his arm?
@ironmikehallowween
@ironmikehallowween Жыл бұрын
I started bouncing in Baltimore in 1988. I also was a PPO ( personal protection officer) at psychiatric hospitals and at John’s Hopkins ER where we took in psychiatric emergencies 24/7 and had the rubber rooms to contain them when necessary. I am getting old now, but I have learned a ton and am much better at de-escalating then I used to be. That’s the most important skill set for bouncing/security. It doesn’t always work, especially with people who are literally insane. As far as martial arts: You must have exposure with all ranges, period. You must also be able to deal with more than one person and be cognizant that whoever you are confronting, isn’t alone. Most of this information is good. It’s definitely not a job for people that want to get into fights. Oh, you certainly will find opportunities to do so; but You will end up in jail, or fired, or worse. Thanks for the video.
@keres993
@keres993 Жыл бұрын
RE multiple attackers: never get surrounded. If you're in a hallway with multiple attackers, always be ready to retreat backwards to prevent the surround.
@marvinmuslim
@marvinmuslim Жыл бұрын
When did you work at Hopkins?
@gudemik5335
@gudemik5335 Жыл бұрын
That some serious resumee I'd love to read about what you learned about human behaviour and your own in relation to unstable people
@zaterranwraith7596
@zaterranwraith7596 Жыл бұрын
I was born in 88, and have never bounced anyone beyond a child.
@bradleyerasmus1961
@bradleyerasmus1961 Жыл бұрын
From my observations, the scrawny little coward in the group is oftentimes more dangerous than the big strong posturing alpha male because he flies under your radar and slips quietly around to sucker punch you from the side! Notwithstanding the above, thanks for an honest and a top video!
@kcmacdonald
@kcmacdonald Жыл бұрын
I was a bouncer for 10 years in Toronto and I agree with 99% of what you said. Great take. Southnarc's Managing Unknown Contacts article changed my perception of threats and body language. Articulating the threatening body language to explain to the cops why I was handing out naps has saved me from legal trouble , and a solid Muay Thai clinch game with some judo did me very well
@westphalianstallion4293
@westphalianstallion4293 Жыл бұрын
I was a bouncer in germany, so yeah, jointlocks and judo throws would be total legal trouble. Plum Muaythai Clinch, head control and head drags, dragging the opponent down Khabib style is the safest for a single attacker and controll both arms not just for punches so they dont pull a knife. Deescalation is still king.
@kcmacdonald
@kcmacdonald Жыл бұрын
@Westphalian Stallion yes judo has to be done "for control" instead of "full ippon" on the door. I did however have to slam Harai Goshi a college football player at one point, and only because i got very lucky- sometimes things veer outside the realm of safe and technical, and you have to consider big judo throws as bordering on "lethal force", same as punching someone in the head
@westphalianstallion4293
@westphalianstallion4293 Жыл бұрын
@@kcmacdonald I had my base in german "JuJutsu" / traditional JiuJitsu with a police officer as the trainer, so I learnd "Street grappling" before Competitive grappling. So I was always aware on what works in a violence scenario and especially whats legal. German selfdefense law is funnily as liberal as Texas, in theory you can get away with very much, but the judges are more californian, so in reality you get in trouble for the smallest nonsense. Every situations where the opponent is "at your mercy" can and will be seen as the end of selfdefense and everything after that is assault. So yeah jointlocks are pretty out of the picture and throws with air time (O goshi, harai, etc.) are inviting a lot of questioning by lawyers and police... But I talk better than Chael Sonnen so I could talk myself out of most conflicts. I always made clear that I am doing my job, I am a good man and there is no gain or honour in escalating the whole thing. Nothing personal kid. "Bro is this your first time partying?" "No!? I am a regular guest and I know the owner" "So you know there is always a guy arguing with the security and making a fool of himselfe because everone knows It doesnt work?" "Yes! What a fool!" "Look around and see if you can find this guy tonight?!?" *Dude looks around, sees his error and walks aways frustraded but not angry and doesnt comes back with his brother*
@motopunk9516
@motopunk9516 Жыл бұрын
what do you think about kick boxing in a street fight is it effective?
@kcmacdonald
@kcmacdonald Жыл бұрын
@george drolias it's super effective When I was on the door I was more familiar with the Thai style, so the clinch was my preferred range. However the benefit of western boxing (including WITHIN kickboxing itself/dutch MT) is awareness of angles, centre line, defense and maintaining distance All that being said the way to win on the street is to walk away if you can, and have a force equalizer if you can't
@WrestlingUniversity
@WrestlingUniversity Жыл бұрын
"Non compliant slumber session" really got me. This is one of the most balanced perspectives on street fights I've ever heard (probably because it comes from actual experience). Well done brother, love your content.
@thepancakemann
@thepancakemann 10 ай бұрын
Trained in Shotokan for just over a decade before leaving my dojo because of time/money constraints. I'll say this about street fights: knowing how to punch and kick is absolutely going to help you through many situations, but almost every altercation you will find yourself in will involve some form of grappling. Never underestimate a trip and dont forget to run once you pull one off.
@ErinJeanette
@ErinJeanette 9 ай бұрын
Got in a fight with my daughters bullys mom and I slammed her into her car and tripped her backwards. We both went down and I was on top of her but her kid started pulling my hair and my daughter launched through the air and tackled her, but the mom rolled on top of me and is twice my size and I couldn't breathe and the panic was insane 😂 I scrambled out of it as she got off me or I'd be suffocated. I'm not in any kind of training but I was so proud of my tripping her until it went bad 😂😂😂
@Vivacomunismo
@Vivacomunismo 9 ай бұрын
@@ErinJeanettesheesh judo ftw
@ErinJeanette
@ErinJeanette 9 ай бұрын
@@Vivacomunismo 😂 it was funny cuz she dented her own car by being so big. She tried to press charges but the police wanted me to because of what her kids done to my daughter and she paid me $200 because her kid threw my daughters phone on the ground during the altercation. Was a W pretty much for us all around
@Native_love
@Native_love Жыл бұрын
Practiced BJJ G training association and Judo in the 90's. Got into a fight with a huge football player. Tried a Judo throw but he had a t-shirt on and my grip slipped. I ended up on my back with him in my closed guard. I held his head in my chest and he panicked and nearly BIT MY NIPPLE OFF! With blood all over my shirt, I then put him in an armbar where his friends quickly broke up the fight. Lesson was I stopped training in a gi for a while and concentrated on my Boxing, no gi grappling and lots of conditioning. I never forgot that and still have a nasty scar from his teeth.
@ScorpionSuerte
@ScorpionSuerte 8 ай бұрын
You need wrestling to make judo work for the most part. Even when gold medalist Yoshida fought MMA he shot double legs to get the clinch.
@user-qk3gj6iz7v
@user-qk3gj6iz7v 5 ай бұрын
Hahahahahahahahh why didnt you elebow him?
@xsindolor
@xsindolor 4 ай бұрын
Judo throws are designed for large jackets not t shirts, just because you don't know how to use bjj in the street dosnt mean it's uslesss
@mb2776
@mb2776 4 ай бұрын
@@xsindolor if a throw depends on what the other guy is wearing...idk...
@xsindolor
@xsindolor 4 ай бұрын
@@mb2776 no it doesn't that's more judo, Greco-Roman wrestling is all cinch based where your grabbing the person and wrestling, look it up
@BreadPeopleSD
@BreadPeopleSD Жыл бұрын
“30 min snooze fest on flograppling” had me audibly laughing 😂😂
@deansander441
@deansander441 Ай бұрын
I worked as a bouncer in college. Broke a couple guys arms and both times they just kept fighting, it really doesn’t work the way most people think. I’ve found hard takedowns, pins, and chokes work best and clothes grips work. The weird thing is some people wake up really fast. Takedowns and pins work better than striking, I did kickboxing for years and never used it. Was safer for me to just close in, take down the big drunk guy pin him and cuff him. Long story short, I switched to Judo after bouncing.
@timsmothers8740
@timsmothers8740 10 ай бұрын
Great information and video, loved the way you put it together and the language and scenarios were spot on.
@Gregori-mi2vy8nc6y
@Gregori-mi2vy8nc6y Жыл бұрын
As a cop I agree with you, I entered the police academy as a well-trained 10-year veteran in martial arts. As a cop, I had an extra concern, every violent encounter I had during my career involved at least one gun. Trust me fighting for your weapon is on a different level. I agree with your advice on foot sweeps, that was a very important technique for me during my career. You also mentioned competition, very very important, I had a brief career in kickboxing in the early 80s, and despite training in multiple disciplines, kickboxing was the only player besides boxing for many of us who were trained also in Jujitsu not BJJ, boxing, and judo. The fighting competition gives you the ability to think and not panic during real fight scenarios. You are also correct about BJJ guys learning to strike. All martial artists need to feel a real kick and punch, on the same token, a striker needs to learn how to grapple. As a young martial artist 40 years ago I realized the need to train in multiple disciplines, I am grateful that I took this approach, it saved me during my law enforcement career! Thankfully, I survived a career in a very large metropolitan area, thanks be to God! Thanks for the video.
@Gregori-mi2vy8nc6y
@Gregori-mi2vy8nc6y Жыл бұрын
@@Butch_Deezlsteak cool, thanks for your thoughts. Are you a construction worker? I agree with you construction is a dangerous line of work. The video I commented on was about street fights and bouncing. Not about the ranking of the world's most dangerous jobs. But is it safe to say that construction workers are normally not attacked as they build houses and buildings? kzbin.infoSW838fITWYM kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4nLoaSEnLKbbMU
@newagain9964
@newagain9964 Жыл бұрын
Did someone say foot sweeps?? That my jam. And stomps to the knee.
@henryknetsar3677
@henryknetsar3677 Жыл бұрын
I found that my training in rugby was very helpful as a bouncer. I could grapple up to 3 grown men and MOVE them towards the door at a pace that I was able to control. It helped that there were a few handy steel columns holding up the roof to assist our impromptu scrum. Guys who thought they could break away found that bouncing off steel columns was much worse than scrumming with me. Good times. Oh, yah, that was in the early 80's when folks still respected human life. Guys could have a dust up, and later sit down and have a beer. Different times.
@davidkymdell452
@davidkymdell452 Жыл бұрын
For real! I inadvertently got in the way of a bouncer taking a dude out in a bar in Wellington, NZ about 20 years ago. Bouncer was smallish but tough as nails Maori guy that rugby tackled the patron out the door from like the other side of the bar lol. I got in the way at the last second just before the doorway and went flying.
@brettthewilder2338
@brettthewilder2338 Жыл бұрын
Can we all be thankful that might no longer means right? They’re not called ‘the Great Equaliser’ for no reason. 🙏🏻
@JohnLoogleman
@JohnLoogleman Жыл бұрын
Yeh man, you're right 👍
@chrishayes8197
@chrishayes8197 Жыл бұрын
I love how frequently guys can point out a friend who started out as an enemy or opponent in a fight. (e.g. - about the time I thought I'd won a fight with a solid liver punch, he caught my off switch with a clean rear uppercut. Started the day as strangers, and a few years later I was best man at his wedding. Women are missing out by not working that way ;)
@rdeloges7957
@rdeloges7957 10 ай бұрын
Rugby is running Judo !
@MegaOorwullie
@MegaOorwullie Жыл бұрын
This is an excellent video. Probably the best I’ve ever seen about what a real fight will actually be like whether you’re a trained fighter or not great job bro.
@Makarislethal
@Makarislethal 11 ай бұрын
This video is a auto LIKE . THIS is one of the best street fight talks vs competition fights I've ever heard. Especially the nap- takes fight away and quick back take with a duck under . Perfect
@dreadblitz
@dreadblitz Жыл бұрын
As a bouncer for 10 years and a black belt I can tell you this video is 100%
@KenTheJr
@KenTheJr Жыл бұрын
You found your calling. I’ve been following your Daisy Fresh story for a couple of years now and this is the most entertaining commentary on real world BJJ ever.
@liukang85
@liukang85 Жыл бұрын
yeah this is good. Not sure how much content like that can be done regularly though
@WrestlingUniversity
@WrestlingUniversity Жыл бұрын
agreed
@jasonmatthews1303
@jasonmatthews1303 10 ай бұрын
Your experience makes you the best person to comment on this subject. Bouncers know what it’s really like. Thank you.
@jink7568
@jink7568 9 ай бұрын
Bro. This is so real and good. Love #2 and the commentary on the exhaustion
@TheCommonS3Nse
@TheCommonS3Nse Жыл бұрын
I’ve gotta say the take down thing is spot on. I recently changed from a Japanese Jiu Jitsu gym to a straight BJJ gym. Anytime I’ve rolled with someone and started from standing, my opponent has been clueless. I rarely get a takedown on them because the moment we clinch, they pull guard. In straight BJJ it’s no problem (depending on the rule set of course), but on the street you can’t just pull guard. You have to learn how to take people down while avoiding their takedowns, let alone their punches!
@stephenhughes5156
@stephenhughes5156 Жыл бұрын
Even in MMA, there is a much greater downside to pulling guard.
@Arcadianx98
@Arcadianx98 Жыл бұрын
Guard isn’t for pulling guard and I don’t know anyone who proposes that in a street right. Guard however IS useful in a straight fight for when you somehow end up in bottom you can sweep or submit them. It’s about having options from any position you find yourself in
@tommym321
@tommym321 Жыл бұрын
@@Arcadianx98 EXACTLY. BJJ was revolutionary in part because it was the first system that allowed you to be offensive EVEN IF you were put in a disadvantageous position. Nobody ever proposed putting themselves there on purpose in a fight.
@MyZ001
@MyZ001 Жыл бұрын
@@tommym321 Is was only revolutionary in that it introduced the guard to a large number of people who didn't know about it. The guard and fighting from your back already existed in Judo and JJJ. BJJ just decided to concentrate on it
@gxtmfa
@gxtmfa Жыл бұрын
What the hell is with all these no-standing BJJ gyms??
@rogerwilliams2629
@rogerwilliams2629 Жыл бұрын
This was great. I started Judo in 67 and ten years later was in a bar band across the Southwest. Judo saved me countless times. All of that practice became automatic throws when someone stepped in my circle, or I in his. Loved that phrase you said ..the ground wins every time. Lol
@jasonmckay8793
@jasonmckay8793 Жыл бұрын
no u had the potential backup of your band mates if your in a place with no backup you have to stay mobile cardio and striking is king in that situation and that's the situation that's the most vital, to well your survival.
@rogerwilliams2629
@rogerwilliams2629 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonmckay8793 I was a Nidan in Karate and had boxed as a kid. They always started with striking, few ended that way. As far as bandmates I can ask them if they would have ..I'm playing with them again after 42 years! But they were lovers, not fighters, never saw them in a scrap. Your points are valid, of course.
@physicsg33k
@physicsg33k Жыл бұрын
Did you ever play at the Rose in Muskogee, OK or Caravan in Tulsa, OK? I swear, I've met you. Maybe Cains in Tulsa? I worked event security there years ago.
@brianoh8192
@brianoh8192 Жыл бұрын
It seems like you were instigating these events, or took people down when they weren't being physically violent yet. You know what I'm talking about.
@ReisterJP
@ReisterJP Жыл бұрын
Judo has also saved my life or at least kept me from getting my butt kicked.
@blakbloke
@blakbloke Жыл бұрын
Probably the best thing I’ve ever heard on this cluster of subjects. Very well done
@sonnybrisbane66
@sonnybrisbane66 Ай бұрын
Literally the best most concise advice you'll ever hear on real fighting and martial arts, and that'll waste the least amount of your time, also. Amazing job. Flawless.
@servo66
@servo66 Жыл бұрын
This sums up why I NEVER engage in shit talk when I'm out. I do NOT want to be in a scenario where either I end up hurt or god forbid I drop someone, they hit the back of their head on the concrete and now both of our lives are going to be affected (brain damage or death for them, possible prison for me.)
@leecolt9060
@leecolt9060 Жыл бұрын
I've worked as a bouncer and this is the best video I've ever seen on the topic. My knees being scraped up and slightly bruised, knowing that I was going to take some damage if a situation popped off. The adrenaline, etc. I've thought about these things and have actually asked John Danaher in person if he will come out with an instructional as he bounced for years. Such an important topic.
@m.b.593
@m.b.593 Жыл бұрын
What did John say? 🙏🏻
@megagun56
@megagun56 3 ай бұрын
This is one of the best videos on this topic. Well done
@CourtneyLaschkewitsch
@CourtneyLaschkewitsch Жыл бұрын
His language is just amazing. Kudos to doing this in an incredibly entertaining way, and offering tangible advice and knowledge in an area many people have ego opinions in. Well done!
@aidandouglas6341
@aidandouglas6341 Жыл бұрын
This is awesome to hear. My dad did different martial arts his entire life and the one thing he told me was that the ground is often your closest weapon.
@trains4nothng
@trains4nothng Жыл бұрын
this is the best video i have ever seen on reality of self defense. i have bounced and also been a dumb person engaging in fighting and did well with one year of grade school wrestling about a year of karate and a library card, i just started training in a gym and it is great i love the training and the community aspect
@kennethbrown880
@kennethbrown880 5 ай бұрын
This information not only is helpful but one of the realist conversations about real street fighting l..Thanks for this bro
@raven69600
@raven69600 9 ай бұрын
This video hits the nail on the head better than any other! I have been in many fights as a young man but and it was and is very …. Interesting to say the least. As a man who’s nearly 60, I still train but I also realize my limitations, the potential of running into a young man who is also training but, is much younger and much more athletic… I avoid fights and I never place myself into those situations anymore, no bars, no concerts, nothing… I am not hiding in my closet by any means… I train for the potential situation that I can’t get out of… Very good video!
@jackfisher1921
@jackfisher1921 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely the best talk on actual street encounters I've heard coming from a BJJ practitioner. Thank you.
@jova2004
@jova2004 Жыл бұрын
Easily the most informative video I’ve seen regarding actual street fights without showing one street fight. Good job, will be rewatching in case I missed something.
@Roecityking
@Roecityking Жыл бұрын
This is by far the most realistic funny yet entertaining KZbin video I’ve seen regarding BJJ.
@frankperrella1202
@frankperrella1202 Жыл бұрын
I like the Combat Sambo for the street & training. The Throws Submissions & The Striking. Love the channel 👍🙏
@coldsteel.and.courage
@coldsteel.and.courage Жыл бұрын
I was a bouncer for a decade. Stabbed once, kicked in the face a bunch of times, head butted in the teeth, punched in the face, elbowed in the face, slammed, buried under a pile of 6 people, etc. I agree choking someone out was by far the easiest way to stop them. Sadly in my State chokes are considered deadly force so you had to be really careful. So like you said about the ground being unforgiving we used a ton of hip tosses and leg sweeps and they worked amazing. I knocked out the majority of people with a hard bounce on concrete.
@coldsteel.and.courage
@coldsteel.and.courage Жыл бұрын
@Jermilli Vanilli in the arm, I actually didn't realize it until after the brawl was over. The cop looked down at my arm and said, "are you alright?" Then it started to hurt, and swelled up like a baseball.
@Tha1mikemike
@Tha1mikemike Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this awesome video. A blueprint on developing the correct mentality for self defense. I’m still new to BJJ, but I now have a new perspective on what to focus on. For me, closing distance, blood chokes, and escaping from bottom position are the key takeaways.
@LibertarianGalt
@LibertarianGalt Жыл бұрын
Mix BJJ with Boxing, Kick Boxing/Muay Thai and do functional strength training as well as cardio conditioning. Kettlebells are great to achieve both.
@peterfuentes5893
@peterfuentes5893 11 ай бұрын
Great advice! Probably one of the best videos on this topic.
@bilbo_gamez6195
@bilbo_gamez6195 4 ай бұрын
This dude is the most down to earth and realistic fighter I've ever heard. He knows fighting elitists are very wrong when it comes to street fighting
@desmondrivera8083
@desmondrivera8083 Жыл бұрын
I worked in night clubs for 8 years, I competed in both amateur wrestling and boxing and I've trained in Jeet Kune Do Concepts Filipino martial arts as well. What you said about weapons is spot on, even if you train with a knife you are going to get cut if there's a knife introduced into the situation. I loved what you said about the ground being "undefeated" it's amazing how many people do not realize how concrete or a crowded dance floor can change a ground fight dramatically. Thank you for the video, can't wait for the next one 🤙
@DjMakurimaru
@DjMakurimaru Жыл бұрын
It's all fencing boxing and FMA. Bruce didn't invent it. it's what his professor taught him.
@JohnLoogleman
@JohnLoogleman Жыл бұрын
Yep, slippery floors, tables etc. I've trained a lot with blades l, you can pull of movie like restraints, then take one in the heart the next time. In a facility (security job) I actually got stabbed in the chest by a psych patient with a McDonald's plastic spoon, didn't even know he had it. I was lucky it wasn't a real blade.
@georgep.5315
@georgep.5315 Жыл бұрын
Finally a gentleman who tells the grizzly reality of fighting on the streets and chaotic circumstances multiple variables that come into play . It’s probably inherent to human nature to want to live in a fantasy world to a lesser or greater degree as it affords a sense of internal security. It is really hard for man to confront unpleasant truths , it truly requires courage. Dangerous encounters humbled me and put things into different perspective .
@richardbridges7962
@richardbridges7962 9 ай бұрын
I just subscribed, fighting days are in my past, I just love the way you speak plain truth, I hope it helps a lotta people.
@analiasjones614
@analiasjones614 4 ай бұрын
😂. Just found your site today. You are 100 % On point with real talk and real situations. Your narration was well written and included good comedic comments and timing. Well done. New subscriber.
@WuzuquanSpain
@WuzuquanSpain Жыл бұрын
Not a BJJ practitioner but this video makes so much sense and is magnificently delivered. Thank you. My lack of experience in the kind of scenarios you described are why I tell people who try my class that I do *not* teach self-defence.
@brownjatt21
@brownjatt21 Жыл бұрын
This is the greatest most complete street fight breakdown I've ever seen. Hilarious clips on the side.
@pamlemm903
@pamlemm903 Жыл бұрын
This was a seriously fantastic video! Thanks for making it!
@Trails_Ales_and_Sigma_Males
@Trails_Ales_and_Sigma_Males Жыл бұрын
Active law enforcement officer here; @Wiltse Brothers BJJ is dead on the money with this one. Particularly about the difference in levels of resistance of a crackhead that doesn't want to be arrested vs 1 of your training partners in a gym setting. Not only do they have the motivation of a man/woman/whatever that is literally fighting for their freedom, but the drugs/alcohol in their system give them Crack Ninja Superpowers. Never mind a beautifully executed elbow escape, having someone literally writhing with superhuman strength trying to brute force you off them is SO MUCH harder to deal with than people think. And all those takedowns I execute perfectly at my gym, always end up looking so scrappy/messy on the street, simply because the other person is not reacting in a way you're not used to. The chaotic nature of them being untrained almost makes them harder to deal with than someone who is trained. Thanks for this video, Andrew- awesome perspective!
@grandmasterfash7396
@grandmasterfash7396 5 ай бұрын
"Crack Ninja Superpowers" made me audibly LOL.
@Trails_Ales_and_Sigma_Males
@Trails_Ales_and_Sigma_Males 5 ай бұрын
@@grandmasterfash7396 In reference to the legendary ‘PCP Crack Ninja’ video. If you haven’t seen it, you’re missing out.
@stevesmith4572
@stevesmith4572 Жыл бұрын
This format work great! Love the editing, gotta do more of this kind of video!
@michaeltenbroeck1807
@michaeltenbroeck1807 24 күн бұрын
The delivery of this information was spectacular.
@Bl_nkSlate
@Bl_nkSlate 10 ай бұрын
Watched one episode and Subbed instantly. Real shit keep it up, happy to be here with someone talking sense not just trying to sell something.
@ChrisLaFave
@ChrisLaFave Жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh I love how he conveys all this, when things get real and you realize you don't have nearly enough wind.
@BuceGar
@BuceGar Жыл бұрын
I worked loss prevention after getting out of the military. I'm a small guy 5'8", around 150lb, and one of the tricks I learned in taking down people much larger than me is grabbing anywhere in their waistline, and simply pulling up while rotating them in any direction. You cannot maintain your balance when you're not in contact with the ground. Be sure to land on them, and drive them into the ground slightly, not to hurt them, but to ensure you end up on top, and not the bottom. The real trick is to close the gap without getting into a fist fight.
@jessec.8052
@jessec.8052 Жыл бұрын
Bear hug style around their waist? or grabbing belt with hands? Not sure what you're describing here...
@jooot_6850
@jooot_6850 Жыл бұрын
@@jessec.8052 Wrapping around their waist, lifting them up and twisting them over to one side sounds like what he did. I’ve done that to a couple of my friends and similar stuff when I wrestled so I can see that working pretty well assuming you can actually get to the guy
@kevinfrancis7181
@kevinfrancis7181 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience. What I would say from my experience in street fighting is that, if you are going to take your opponent to the ground and mount, get a couple of good strikes in and get back up on your feet. I grew up collegiate wrestling from 8th to 12th grade, so I never had a problem with takedown, mount and striking my opponent. I came to this realization after being in 3 fights in bar parking lots, the first one I got booted in the side of the head be someone else, didn't see it coming. The second time I got booted in my mouth by someone else, didn't see it coming. The 3rd time, someone stomped on the top of my head and my forehead got bounced on the pavement
@methree3821
@methree3821 4 ай бұрын
Love it. Needed this bro energy today. Thank you.
@chriscip96
@chriscip96 Жыл бұрын
The last point really hit home for me, been working on Muay Thai to get my striking since getting my blue belt for this exact reason
@allhailtheCODgod
@allhailtheCODgod Жыл бұрын
with a blue belt and decent muay thai you'll have better self defence than 99% of people
@Joobkl
@Joobkl Жыл бұрын
I train Muay Thai but haven't started my BJJ journey yet
@hb9145
@hb9145 Ай бұрын
Muay Thai is great. All fights start on the feet, and BJJ is a great supplement.
@DanielWallace
@DanielWallace 10 ай бұрын
The arm slip to rear naked choke is the very first thing I remember learing in Jiu Jitsu roughtly 37 years ago and it is the most useful bit of violence I have learned until today.
@addahandle-k8d
@addahandle-k8d 4 ай бұрын
Can you please describe the arm slip?
@DanielWallace
@DanielWallace 4 ай бұрын
​@@addahandle-k8dGet in a clinch and duck. Then, with the force of your legs standing back up and your hand on their elbow/triceps from beneath, step through and push/slip through under the arm/armpit so you can get their back and neck. There is nothing fancy about it but you need good timing and the right amount of off-balancing and pushing someone around.
@itstruyouAO
@itstruyouAO Ай бұрын
One of the realest videos I’ve seen on the unpredictability of scenarios. What you say is so true, it’s unpredictable in the street, and you need to be prepared for anything!
@adphipps33
@adphipps33 Жыл бұрын
This is the most honest and realistic guide to fighting in general and street fighting! I grew up fighting, I’m a Veteran, I’ve been training in American Karate and Japanese JuJitsu for 4 years now…you hit the nail right in the ducking head with everything!! Thank you 🙏🏻
@Alaska_MD
@Alaska_MD Жыл бұрын
This is the exact philosophy I was taught in Shotokan in the 80's. BJJ wasn't around at the time for me, and this was the most extreme game in town and the only guys doing full contact. Our instructors used to teach us that you've only got about 30 seconds in a fight before you gas, and I was a lean back then. Most people don 't understand how quickly the exhaustion comes, especially if you get tagged, and I never had a sparring match that I didn't get tagged. Even if it's in the leg, it tires you out.
@edwardschmitt5710
@edwardschmitt5710 Жыл бұрын
No I never got tired quickly I have no idea what you guys mean. I used to lift weights for 2 hours straight while hitting the heavy bags for ten minutes at a time in between.that helps. I did hang back and let the other guys waste themselves. It's the adrenaline dump that you need to be calm with that does that mostly.
@josephmeador1529
@josephmeador1529 Жыл бұрын
The standard Shotokan straight punch (Choku zuki) has ended more fights for me than any other technique. The whole point of Shotokan is "if you have to counter more than once, you are doing it wrong" ...
@josephmeador1529
@josephmeador1529 Жыл бұрын
I got attacked sitting in a chair and was able to use "sticky hands" Wing Chun to defend until I could get off a Shotokan punch ... the only target at my eye level was his hip so I turned him sideways and straight punched him into a pool table and put him down.
@Alaska_MD
@Alaska_MD Жыл бұрын
@@josephmeador1529 yes exactly. In shotokan we don't "spar". We pick a moment and go in.
@newagain9964
@newagain9964 Жыл бұрын
@@edwardschmitt5710lmao. Ok bro.
@ASM881
@ASM881 Жыл бұрын
Never seen this channel before, but this guy is very real, and very funny. Subbed.
@jamesedwards6269
@jamesedwards6269 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Giant dose of reality, when people fight there is no telling what can happen. No matter how bad you are there is always someone badder and fights should be an absolute last resort.
@sethbecause946
@sethbecause946 Жыл бұрын
that "whos line is it anyways?" reference mad me an instant fan of his takes lmao ! welcome to the real world and Where the rules are made and the points dont matter. legendary line right there
@nothangu9210
@nothangu9210 Жыл бұрын
👍🏼 100% on target! And not just for BJJ, but for *any* form of combat! I wish I had this video to share with my students 40 years ago…
@UNIXSOLJASysadminSyndicate
@UNIXSOLJASysadminSyndicate 3 ай бұрын
8 years 10p JJ and now I do kickboxing. Been in tons of street fights as I used to sell drugs on the street decades ago. I so agree with everything you said. Great video.
@ryanhill7318
@ryanhill7318 9 ай бұрын
Great video!!!! And very accurate. I was in an unfortunate dustup two months ago. One on one, became one on three from behind...a few bumps and bruises later, I realized that 15 years of striking and a BB didnt mean a damn thing.
@timothymadaras1613
@timothymadaras1613 Жыл бұрын
Your the first martial artist that I have heard of that has said something real in the last 30 years. I was also a bouncer in college and it was enlightening to say the least. Thank You!
@timothymadaras1613
@timothymadaras1613 Жыл бұрын
You run out of gas and you’re done.
@willbrink
@willbrink Жыл бұрын
This vid is funny and gives some good advice! I worked as a bouncer in a few places in the summers when i was younger larger/stronger and thought I was up for such things. The mangers liked me because I was able to talk people down from fighting every time, and never hit anyone or got hit. Other bouncers where often there to beat up drunk guys and such. One summer I was offered head of security because I always walked people out the door without drama. However, it was only a matter of time until my luck ran out and someone sucker punched in the back of the head or what ever, and I decided not to push my luck not being a fighter or someone was actually wanting to fight. Anyway, much of what this kid says, who has a lot more experience then I do, jibes with what I saw growing up in Brooklyn 70s/80s:
@bodhihungerford7084
@bodhihungerford7084 Жыл бұрын
This video is exactly what I need to hear Keep up the good content
@crzabjj
@crzabjj 6 ай бұрын
Excellent video and advice. Thank you for sharing. I’m a 49 YO BJJ blue belt with limited takedowns. I’m hesitant to spar takedowns because of injury risk but for you young bucks out there yes, absolutely learn to wrestle. I train to stay in shape and hopefully give myself an advantage if I’m forced to do something. 🤙🤙
@RJAmos
@RJAmos 6 ай бұрын
42 YO blue who sucks at takedowns 😅😂🙋‍♂️👈🏻
@mi.Dalton
@mi.Dalton Жыл бұрын
Great take, good experience. If anything about working in bars has sunk in for me.... its that monsters and freaks of nature exist among us, the strong, breakproof, choke proof are there. And thankfully, they arent normally the ones who start fights.
@rustyshackleford735
@rustyshackleford735 Жыл бұрын
This is why I always say I've used my Muay Thai and wrestling far more in street fights than I've ever used BJJ.
@kunedoman
@kunedoman 23 күн бұрын
First video I've seen of yours, awesome, informative and also fun to watch! New subscriber here!
@NoahStephens
@NoahStephens 11 күн бұрын
This is the most realistic explanation of street violence on the internet. Really great, man.
@bane3991
@bane3991 Жыл бұрын
Cross training will massively increase your chances of sustaining less damage in a fight and controlling the situation. Boxing can make you better at take downs in a sense that it forces them to keep their hands up so you go in. I always sucked at take downs in BJJ. When I went over to MMA my take downs were a lot better because they're not strictly focused on grappling anymore you set your take downs up with striking. It does make a world of difference.
@Dynamic6000
@Dynamic6000 Жыл бұрын
This is why Judo has an advantage for a street scenario. You get good at what you practice. They train in a natural upright posture rather than hunched over. Drilling to throw and stay standing which is ideal. Maybe the most proficient at foot sweeps of the grappling arts, or at least from that upright posture. If you needed a fight ender, assuming you are some what proficient, you can do that big throw and control them so they don’t just go straight to their head. The Judo ground game and submissions isn’t as refined but definitely enough against an untrained person.
@danielmontilla1197
@danielmontilla1197 Жыл бұрын
Completely agree. Judo newaza is more rudimentary compared to sport BJJ but that's ok for me, it's just what carried the Gracies through the early years of MMA. Besides, it's a matter of allocating resources, if you want self-defense all those hours learning fancy lapel guards and ground acrobatics aren't going to do much for you anyways
@dualmass
@dualmass Жыл бұрын
Agreed
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