BJJ Pro and his Brother Fight GIANT NFL Player - Story

[@andrewhenes2953]

This is a Batman and Robin type story 😂Someone PLEASE edit this story into a cartoon.

[@aplus1080]

FUCKING CORRECT!

[@johnfullerton1729]

Need this done Hahahha

[@IamG3X]

For the love of god...

[@kjuarez29]

Need a JRE type cartoon for this one..lol

[@eric-le-roy]

PLEASE!!

[@dongliu5002]

I kept laughing myself while hearing Bird saying "Professor WTF" hahahahahahha Great stories and excellent BJJ spirt. I am your fan from China. Thank you Andrew !

[@abraxian7090]

This video is more use than the Gracie street fundamentals programme.

[@jw-vx8im]

All those booty busting techniques don't mean much

[@NoxBhairava]

The worst part about doing bar security is putting a guy to sleep and then having to fight his girlfriend-and then every dude that walks by and perceives Woman abuse. Happy those days are behind me.

[@adamotuama8710]

Yup. The guy you’re scrapping might be an easy fight, but his mrs is the one gonna smash a bottle in the back of your head

[@pablocastilo7846]

I respect your mindset about not wanting anyone to go to jail but in a situation like that the best option probably would've been to call the police before ever laying hands on the guy. He was clearly violent and for various liability reasons its sadly the best choice. Glad it worked out in the end. You're a great story teller with good perspective!

[@Its_Esoteric]

This is a prime example that size has and will always be a huge factor in physical combat. But it sounds like you and Bird did a great job at keeping everyone safe without any permanent damage. Good on you both 🤙🏼

[@Bawks_FEET]

Well size when combined with a shitload of strength, just a big fat lazy guy wouldn't do all this

[@vids595]

Absolutely, that's why we have weight classes. But of course most big fat guys do not have the cardio to do much. And I'm sure we have all seen giant muscle men getting submitted by white belts under 200 pounds, once they learn a little of course that doesn't happen because size does matter.

[@realtruth1448]

Not with striking, low kick spam all day

[@realtruth1448]

@DisinterestedSimp depends on your technique & speed, don’t be ignorant, go online and look up sparring videos, a good choice is mmashredded, he’s about 5’9 140-150 pounds and he beats up guys bigger than him all the time, saenchai the GOAT of muay thai literally toys with bigger opponents, and when he gets serious he almost kills them When it comes to striking speed & technique matters a lot, you can’t just muscle through or use weight to win like in grappling, striking is about landing your hits and dodging incoming hits, speed & technique takes the cake In grappling is really comes down to who’s bigger/stronger with a splash of technique, just the truth, look at the best grapplers, all of them are on steroids, or atleast in really good shape,

[@realtruth1448]

@DisinterestedSimp Let me repeat myself When it comes down to striking, speed & technique are the most important When it comes down to grappling, athleticism(size, strength speed all wrapped together) is 80%, and technique is like 20%, you can take the greatest female grappler in the world and put her on the mat with some guy who can atleast pop off 50 pushups in a row, and she’s getting hammered, just the truth You take the greatest female striker in the world and put her against that same guy, well that guy has a good chance of losing, he’s not gonna know how to defend himself, or actually land a hit, you should really check out guys who actually know how to evade attacks, they literally never get touched 70% of the time when fighting, Grappling & striking are 2 very separate forms of combat that rely on 2 separate attributes

[@ConveyApp]

I literally just had this exact conversation on size, and age absolutely matters. I’m 42 yrs old, 5’5” and 165lbs, 18% body fat. I’m a purple belt, and train 10 hours per week, primarily no gi. I also lift pretty heavy 5 days per week. I have been doing that for about 2 years. I was training with this (3) striped blue belt that’s 25 yrs old, 225lb power lifter about 4 months ago at an open mat. We rolled for 17 minutes nonstop no one was able to get any submissions the full 17 minutes. I was in bottom in half guard working a sweep just freaking gassed. He was getting frustrated with my guard. This dude finally just lifted me in the air like I was a sheet of paper. I was in the air over his freaking head. He’s a real cool guy and just laughed and put me back down. Dang profoundly life changing. Just literally helpless. So our rule of thumb: 25-35 lbs is a full belt rank, -10 years is a full belt rank. So alway change your game to adapt to bigger, stronger, younger guys…

[@NBeaver-bx4yl]

In my personal experience, I am young quite athletic. I weight 175, I can handle well newer guys weighing around 230( 55lbs difference). I can fight but with a lot of trouble guys 240-245. But guys over 260 (if not just fat). there is a few thing I can do. My leverages are just not strong enough to compensate. At a certain point size because too much. Against bigger guys you need the speed, get em on the ground as fast as possible even if not the best position. Move around keep em down and wait for an opportunity. but, I feel like if you are 250 tough you can handle guys 350, as at a point size has diminishing returns. (btw blue belt level)

[@ConveyApp]

@@NBeaver-bx4yl I feel that way too. I’m starting to push 170lbs at the moment. I just turned 43 and I’m a baby purple belt. My age seems to be a factor and my weight has dropped a lot over the past 18 months. I can handle mid level white to new blue belts at higher weights without much effort. But right around that (2)+ strip level things start to fall apart. Particularly if they are some what athletic. I’m super strong for my size but that only carries me so far, and I’m not that fast. Old joints and stuff. So everyone should really understand and accept their limitations during this BJJ journey.

[@NBeaver-bx4yl]

@@ConveyApp yeah what is amazing about BJJ is not that you can beat any one of any size. Its that naturally you would have no chance against someone 70lbs more than you, but with BJJ you actually do have a solid fighting chance. It levels the playing field a lot, but this aint magic

[@ConveyApp]

@@NBeaver-bx4yl I got my purple belt about 3-4 weeks ago. Starting last week I got a freaking target on my back. Everyone that is a lower ranking belt is going 110% on me. It’s grueling… I knew this would happen but it’s different experiencing it. All these guys are 20+ yrs my junior and like 20-35lbs on me. I’m also short at 5’5” and am 165lbs. These kids are 5’9” - 6’1”.

[@NBeaver-bx4yl]

@@ConveyApp haha weeks after promotions are hard as hell

[@Arpedzio1]

I think this will lead into a good discussion of what's lost in translation from portuguese to english when people talk self defense. Also the Rorion v. Helio perspective. Helio always said bjj is to survive and not get murdered if you run into a guy like you're describing, because you're fucked. He used to say surviving is winning. Rorion was trying to tap into that american disposable income and sell some merch, so he basically said self defense is magic. Old school dudes from brazil are very aware of the size issue.

[@ln5747]

​@Bill Stevens that's debatable. I think you way over downplay the ability of accomplished competition BJJers by calling it pyjama playing in a padded room. Full contact sparring is full contact sparring and most who train will easily fuck up those who don't, regardless of street or dojo. Anyone who trains with either a self-defence or comp emphasis still knows they'd completely handle their newbie white belt self in the street. Untrained are literally useless, groin strikes or not, with the exception of a large size difference or a beginner practitioner.

[@davidjensen3474]

That's what I told my friends. A black belt is about staying out of the E.R. if you are forced to fight someone physically superior to you. But, there's also the movies that fuel the b.s. in the USA.

[@davidd854]

@@ln5747 'untrained are literally useless' are you talking about in a BJJ sparring session? Because I wouldn't assume too quickly that you can just manhandle any untrained opponent in street fight like it's nothing.

[@ln5747]

@@davidd854 depends what you mean like nothing? In a BJJ match of course they're useless. In a street fight they are close to useless, aside from a very large athletic difference based on size/age, but must be significant. Untrained people have close to zero fighting ability.

[@davidd854]

@@ln5747 Yeah no. I think you're overrelying on your BBJ skills. Lots of factors in a street fight, difficulty in transferability of BJJ to street scenario (concrete floor, objects around), inclusion of striking possibility. I'm just going on what Wilke said in another video here. You're still dealing with a grown man who's presumably going to try to fuck you up. So I wouldn't count them away to easy, especially if your martial arts background doesn't go outside of BJJ.

[@pukanger]

“Clever girl”. Best. Line. Ever.

[@eog1234]

Haha

[@Easilydisctra]

I don’t know…’undefeated hardwood floor’ really got me as well 😀

[@youlig1]

​@@Easilydisctra i didn't even catch that one xD

[@thedadhaze]

Please make Bird a Clever Girl patch and subsequently sell them, ty. Great fucking story btw, thanks for sharing!

[@cardinalmarc]

Thank you for telling the truth. I have several acquaintances that don’t train at all that have no grip on reality - 1) as it relates to their fighting (“I just see red man” says the guy who works behind a desk all day) or 2) that I can’t take anyone any size because I’m a purple belt. BJJ really checks your ego - I’m been humbled by larger stronger more athletic white belts - especially wrestlers. No rules in street fight - where there are guys that can literally pick you and break you in half and then wrap your belt around your head. Being humble and deescalating - great advice.

[@michaelzero5278]

Absolutely true everyone a tough guy until weapon are pull. Wrestling is a must in grapoling.

[@Goggalor1990]

Except Jiu-jitsu and MMA work just fine if you're not a pacifist. Could have just elbowed the guy's brain stem or temples into oblivion, especially if his brother was holding him. If you're super against violence of course martial arts won't work, because you aren't using them as intended at that point.

[@williambarton5681]

Sure, if you're ok with the repercussions of giving people permanent brain damage.

[@Goggalor1990]

@William Barton if I'm up against multiple attackers,weapons, etc. then yes, I'm absolutely okay with killing someone if I have to. If I run the risk of serious injury then it's war and in war you fight to win.

[@lolmouf]

@@Goggalor1990 shut up internet tough guy

[@dearestbrotherchroma]

Insane story. Glad you two aren’t working there anymore. Also super pissed at your bartender lady boss or whatever escalating a situation you clearly had under control. Drunk or not I think as bouncers you get to make the call on who has to leave or not, she was seriously putting your lives at risk

[@edstringer1138]

Exactly

[@BWater-yq3jx]

Women who don't have to deal with the consequences. 🙄

[@cking509]

This was a rollercoaster. I was laughing my arse off at the beginning, then suddenly I realised just how serious the situation was. Could have ended horribly for anyone involved. Great story with an important message.

[@iheelhookday1whitebelts22]

So many people out there fail to recognize how unpredictable these type of situations are I had incident happen to me one time that resulted in me getting a gash on my head from what you ask a fucking can of peas while I did end up restraining him no amount of training could prepare me to fight for life against a can of peas

[@jvan6582]

As an retired nfl lineman and former bodyguard/bouncer I love all the stories. Lol always go for neck no matter the size of the human

[@bolt.22]

Haven't even started the story yet, but I know I'll love it. Love all of these stories!

[@zelkowianin2748]

Greetings from Poland ! This story gives food for thought, when the more someone knows how to fight, the more cautious he is.

[@adriandyk8797]

Polska gUrom

[@vikingtarot]

Sick story! That’s scary as fuck. Glad you had your brother to team up and put this guy to sleep 3 times. I like your philosophy of not wanting to send people to jail if you don’t have to. Jiu Jitsu spills over into all aspects of life and you used it in this situation.

[@johnandrewserranogarcia7223]

"... your philosophy of not wanting to send people to jail if you don’t have to." The guy making these videos is kinder than those attackers deserve, hopefully some of them realize how lucky they are to not get a permanent record.

[@pingislife2653]

The more stories you tell of Bird, the more I can picture him wearing some spandex and cape underneath his normal clothes. Glad you all made it out ok, and thanks for this insight.

[@dana.2255]

On the bright side, how many "big guys" are 6'4 270lb former NFL players? Though most of us arent as skilled as Mr. wiltse either.

[@KKSuited]

Pretty sure I know who it is. It's one of two guys I believe. They're big boys.

[@MrOj59]

6'4 is around 97th percentile male population. If remotely built at 270lb likely 1% of that 3%

[@moneyman8772]

​@@MrOj59anything 6'3+ is 99% for men

[@youngbuddha7778]

Exactly love how good point of Witse turned out to “ yeah bro I lost yesterday I’m a purple belt against a guy weighing 40 lbs heavier size matters comments “. A fat dude of 220 lbs will 99 % of time lose due to cardio and even being slow and technique against 170 LEGIT purple belt I have seen it real life all time no discussion about that.

[@youngbuddha7778]

270 and pure fat would be difficult but already different

[@ahsa0521]

This story is great. Glad you and Bird got out of it safely 🙌🏼

[@wingoreviewsboxingandmma3667]

I notice how pulling guard was never a part of this story. Lol

[@DavidvsGoliathBJJ]

The moment you realize a dude is just too big to be suplexed, “abort abort!” 😂 Very entertaining story

[@nerigiron7704]

Andrew going to become the new king 👑 of grappling

[@jackedupstreamz8875]

True he’s got that Khabib mentality

[@randallgoulet1550]

All facts. We gotta stop pretending like size doesn’t matter especially in real situations.

[@TheStarwolf01]

I'm 48 now. This video had me laughing and shaking my head at the same time flashing back to my college days when I used to bounce at Fat Tuesday in Coconut Grove, Florida. The best and worst job I ever had. Positives were the friends in the biz I made and the parties after hours. Negatives were babysitting inebriated assholes that couldn't just enjoy themselves without starting trouble and the occasional having to go to task on people. It didn't dawn on me at the time (a lot of things didn't dawn on me in my early 20s) but that was a really dangerous way to make a buck. The crew was tight like family, we took care of each other and there were several of us (large bar with many patrons nightly). One night I will never ever forget - got into a huge bar brawl with off duty officers on the premise! We had 2 officers onsite from a different municipality working that evening and it was them and the bounce staff against a party of off duty officers from another district. What a freakin' mess! I'm 6'3 and walk around at 210 lbs., athletic build with striking / grappling training and I still lift heavy. I had to jump on a giant's back that night and choke him out. I felt like a little kid getting tossed around in the time it took for him to take a nap. If you have other options...don't do it kids...a few of my friends in the biz back in the day had teeth knocked out, fingers broken and one even got stabbed in the stomach (he ended up being fine). Too many other ways to make a few dollars when you're young.

[@bige311]

LMAO! Great story Andrew glad you and your little brother are safe. I use to work security back in the day with my friend Larry Parker, he fought in Pride and oh boy do I have some crazy stories.. Thanks for sharing much appreciated..

[@wolfparkour]

tell them

[@alanhaine644]

Telling a good engaging story is a skill. Andrew possesses this skill. Epic!

[@skykekona-souza1927]

As a Big Island native I’m ashamed that no gym let you roll. Try NuEra next time. Or Nova Uniao Puna academy if you’re on the East side next time you’re around I’m sure they’d be happy to have you drop in. Aloha.

[@---tx9xx]

Didn’t understand if it was a COVID thing or a no-guest thing

[@knifezoid]

Yo Andrew gonna be the most epic grampa ever with these stories! Ha!

[@alexjets625]

"I need a Danaher lesson." 😆

[@tedium37]

Great story. I agree with every decision. Undefeated hardwood floor is a great phrase. Well done Wiltse brothers.

[@jimh527]

If you're smart, you call the cops before it gets to this point. If you work someplace that expects you to fight MMA inside the bar with rowdy patrons, find another place of employment.

[@tommym321]

No one who has done BJJ for even a short time actually believes “size doesn’t matter.”

[@hubster4477]

Yes they do.

[@tommym321]

@@hubster4477 well then they are retarded.

[@MrEinfachso123]

I'm doing BJJ and still think size doesn't matter if the skill level is too far apart

[@tommym321]

@@MrEinfachso123 if skill is close then size matters a lot.

[@Silentwatcher23]

Have youbever lost in a street fight?the ego is hard to accept this...😢

[@castleincorporated]

all these fight stories and I'm learning that all I want is more bird in my life

[@666BIGBLOCK]

Could you make this short story any longer ? Oh by the way….was the guy huge ? 👎👎👎

[@somecooney5304]

I was choking out some big bastard years back, and two of the girls with him were screaming the exact thing, lol. One of them jumped on my back and sank their nails into my head just behind my ear, like a hawk trying to carry a mouse away, haha! That was the most damage I took that night, that and a broken hand. Yes, fighting is never worth it though. There is just no upside.

[@danielreborn4707]

Bar management made mistake hiring 2 combat skilled little bros only, they also should hired huge security dude to carry out unconscious limp bodies from bar 😂.

[@tafarel44]

If you write these storys down, I would buy the book

[@greengreensio]

Having breakfast while listening to this.. keep them coming brother

[@lowellirish]

In 1995 I was stationed at Ft. Meade MD. - and one night, myself and 3 other soldiers went out to College Park to have some fun...as Army guys do! We weren't drunk, or aggressive...in fact. We had just stopped into a pizza parlor to get our feed on, before going out drinking...We ordered a pitcher of beer, sat down at a 4 person table, and were enjoying ourselves. The only other customers were a young couple, and a HUGE 6'6" 310 lb Linebacker-type, which we later found out was on the U. Of Maryland football team. As we talked, and waited for the pizza, this brick shithouse who could easily bench 500 lbs got up and loomed over us...One of our companions asked "what's up, dude?" - and was rewarded with a fist to his face the size of Thors' Hammer...which sent him sprawling on the floor! The rest of us jumped up, ready to engage, with one pussy-boy running away outside...The giant directed his anger at.my other friend, landing another punch and knocking him out temporarily...Then turned his attention to ME! He picked me up over his head and tossed me 15 feet towards the plate glass window, where I- thankfully, landed short! I looked up and FEE FI FO FUM...this guy took to steps and landed a giant clubbed fist with a ring on it across my scalp, cutting me open and needing 9 stitches... My friends were recovering by now and were in a state of panic and confusion with this "Bull in a China shop" as he returned to finish the job...He turned his back on me, and I grabbed a metal and plastic chair and was ready to smash it over his head when he saw mw, and let loose a roar!!!...Shitting myself, I did so anyway, and landed it square on his neck and face...which only angered him more! My friend grabbed me, and the 3 of us stumbled our way outside over the overturned chairs and tables...Luckily a College Park Security Guard had just pulled his squad car up to the lights, and I slid across his hood- annoyed, he jumped out and began to yell at me- a reaction I had hoped to elicit...and as all 4 of us Army soldiers cowered behind him, he drew his baton and got on his radio, calling for backup! 3 cruisers, and 7 cops later, and they STILL hadn't arrested the psycho!! We even went down to the station to file a n assault report, which was ignored. Turns out the guy was a star on the team, and the cops knew him. DEFINITELY ROIDING!! That's MY story...and I can totally relate to your situation!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂 😬😬🫤😟

[@DarkMuj]

thanks for sharing the story bro, 9 stiches from a punch is crazy. some humans are just built like absolute monsters i guess, in the battlefields of ancient times he would have been a menace

[@Biker-wf2dv]

Great story and realization that most people don't think about even after training jiu jitsu and mixed martial arts.

[@evankolpack]

I once saw my friend literally preacher curl his way out of an arm bar cause he's a superhuman Norwegian monster person. Dude's headlock felt like being locked in a metal vice. Anybody who says it's all about technique and strength/size aren't a big factor is full of shit. It may not be AS big a factor as technique, but it's still a big one. BTW, great story dude!

[@dylan4652]

I’ve picked up guys that were completely out that are 200lbs and it is hell! I’m pretty sure that’s how I got a hernia and had to have mesh surgery. Anyway my point is 270lbs even for two guys is insanely hard and these two did an amazing job even moving him.

[@rayojuanin]

I think there is a key moment where self-defense becomes more about *surviving an attack* than it is to *neutrilize an opponent* . This is a clear example of it, if we supposed it was only 1 of you to fight the big NFL guy, a black belt in bjj and background in fighting will make the difference in increasing your odds of surviving and/or escaping.

[@youngbuddha7778]

💯💯. Also when he choked him out first time in a real fight Witse could just picked up any rock, chair whatever or even ground pound/throat strikes whatever lol anything goes.

[@jimmygrail3601]

Big fat funny guy shoulda helped out and just sat on the dude . What a great story ! You and your brother seem like awesome dudes . Nfl guys lucky you guys are cool shits. Much love !!!

[@counterkidnapping1737]

You can't lift a single leg on big dude. You must drive the single leg after you have the leg you drive or run the pipe don't lift because it's not gonna be lifted it's heavy

[@88unstopable]

Andrew Wiltse is the man!

[@aplus1080]

Some sobering shit!

[@umerlinbrah10]

your story time videos are great, keep em coming!

[@jackjackson1898]

If you enter a fight, youre now a combatant, even if youre underequipped and unprepared. Shouldve had bird knock his wife out real quick

[@marcjitsu86]

You're awesome Andrew! I was security at multiple bars and night clubs across the downtown Minneapolis, Minnesota area many years ago. And I don't ever want to be a bouncer again. I have way too many ridiculous stories. Lol! And it definitely wasn't worth the pay for what we had to deal with.🙏🏼 I also have a suplex attempt story from working security at Spin Nightclub in Minneapolis many years ago on the busiest night Sunday when they changed the name to Cream Nightclub. Except my security back-up didn't let go of the guy so I could complete the suplex. Lol! I've got numerous hilarious and ridiculous stories.🤦🏻‍♂️ And again, we never ever got paid enough for all the things we had to deal with, along with the danger we always faced every night.

[@AA-ig9re]

Semi pro NFL player? If you're in the NFL, you're a pro not semi-pro. Good story though

[@jasonshelter1716]

This is a pro fighter, with help from someone else with apparent training, and HE was worried he was going to get his head bashed in. Something to think about when people judge an under-trained police officer trying to do the same thing...alone. Sometimes using a weapon is the only way to survive a fight with an unarmed person who can kill you with their overwhelming size and strength.

[@georgidobrev267]

Great video dude, I binged the flogrpapling series about the Daisy Fresh. You guys have such great dedication that inspired me to try out bjj. Hope you guys win every single tournament there is!

[@LC-in5or]

He was bent over the pool table...it's not as fun as it sounds 🤣🤣🤣 Now he has to go to sleep.... Again 🤣🤣🤣

[@katlynklassen809]

The drunk bartender is a reason I never allow staff to work at the bars I operate. It is never a good play. Lots of bars in the world you don't drink where you work. If it matters so much that you do then go work there too.

[@Simon2952]

Hearing this is what I needed to get me motivated today lol

[@montieguthrie1076]

I worked the door from my retirement from Homeland Security until the end of 2021 (COVID, when people lost their fucking minds and we were fighting every other week). You approach the job the same way I do - use your words, take the problem outside if possible, the environment is your friend if you use it correctly, try to keep drunk fucknozzles out of jail unless it’s super serious or unavoidable). Well done sir. I recognized quite a bit in your story. And so was laughing at you. Because I’ve been there. Salute

[@andallthatcouldhavebeen...9175]

I’m having flashbacks of drunken yard wrestling with my friends growing up. They’re twins, bout 5’9” maybe 140 pounds a piece, I’m 6’6” and at the time about 290 . Always started out fun, and always eventually went to little pissed off guys trying to bring the giant down. Used to toss them like rag dolls! There was literally nothing they could do. I had the reach, the weight, the leverage. No real skills or anything though honestly, just big and strong. Comes in handy delivering appliances!

[@hifta7]

Kickin in the groin end everything

[@MikeMike-ms1ns]

Now you have Cribs show going strong you can do a "Day in the life" video...curious to see what you're eating before/after workouts and the gaps in between

[@crzabjj]

Damn. You did a great job portraying the fear and chaos of that situation. I’m very very aware of the fact that there are weight divisions for a reason. Unique physical attributes are problematic even for the most skilled martial artists in a no rules fight. 🤙🤙

[@x-Musashi-x]

Bro can we have a cartoon series with you and Bird, it’ll be so fucking hilarious. And ofc Bird went for the leg. I could already imagine him trying to heel hook the mf but he’s probably waving his tyranosaurus leg around while Bird clutches on the foot for dear life 😂

[@kcmacdonald]

10 years on the door, I've had a night that went almost exactly like this. It's a crazy life. Stay safe

[@MistaReinhart]

No joke, you’re absolutely right that size makes a big difference. I think any grappler who’s grappled big dudes understands just how hard it can be. How you react changes depending on the attackers size. This is also why weapons are so important and should be more socially accepted. However I understand that working security like that at a bar has to be all empty hands fighting. If you were alone though, a weapon may be needed.

[@sabbathrider]

really enjoy your stories and insight on how we can fool ourselves. I learned the hard way: i´m 5´7 " and 152 pounds at 48 years old right now. Played rugby all my life, and trained BJJ for nearly 5 years (blue belt), although i haven´t been training BJJ for 6 years now more or less. I keep my self in shape with calisthenics, running, surfing when I can and playing soccer in the weekends on a +45 years league. So last year during a soccer match some guy fouled me cinically, the ball wasn´t even close to where I was, and I lost it. This guy was way taller than me, probably at 6´2" and in my head I was thinking about bringing him to the ground and put some pressure by grabbing his shirt collar just to show him... Thing is I did managed to bring him down easily and was on top of him (some kind of side control) puting pressure on his neck and really not having a plan on how to deal with this guy afterwards if he wanted to have a go at me. Guess I just thought about keeping top control and let some teammates stop the wrestling. Thing is, the guy indeed wanted to have a go after all... He pushed my waist and made me start to raise and got me to my kess, he then shoved me backwards (152 pounds ain´t much right?) and as I fell, i used my right arm to stop the fall while my left hand continued to grab his collar. I felt a pinch on my right shoulder but I was just thinking about how I was going to put my right arm through his neck for a RNchoke (he was with his back to me at the time) and just give him what he was asking for. I went for it but my right arm was not moving... wtf? it was then when his teammates and mine showed up and save my ass. I dislocated the right shoulder and the guy was about to turn around on me and surely fuck me up... Then the pain came and I realized what a fool I was, just for an ego trip. Lesson learned. My Bjj fantasy went away :) 4 months till I was confident enough to start trainging and playing again.

[@mr.8999]

Love the fight stories Keep them coming man

[@greyostrich4377]

Found this relatable as a bouncer here in the United Kingdom 🇬🇧. A year ago a team of 4 of us at a nightclub were dragging out a 6.4ft male who weight approximately 115kg whom was a bodybuilder on steroids as well as other drugs. The male was attacking people on the dance floor. We had to put him to the floor at least five times including on the stair case. I am 6.2 weighed 95kg at time and was well built with 1.5 years of bjj training, 3 years of Thai boxing training, 2.5 years of judo training and a year of mma training. And there is no way I could have taken on that guy if I was alone.

[@xmanc5687]

Me and my friend working in the bars in the 90s had a similar experience, but yours seems worse, but everything you said about the dangers is so true.

[@milktrain5567]

There is difference between someone being 20kg heavier, or someone being 80kg heavier, full of muscle and probably using steroids.

[@dansmithbyu1784]

I know your lesson was supposed to be that size matters but I came away from this thinking, wow BJJ still worked 😂

[@---tx9xx]

Danaher and Wiltse my favorite people in Jiujitsu to listen to. Both bouncers too. I wrote this in a prior video but Danaher addresses this in vid 7-8 of feet to floor one, jiu jitsu and self defense. (Moral: throw to stomp). Also use clothes to your advantage if can. But if you’re taking about combat, yeah size matters, training ups your chances, but that’s why weapons and particularly firearms were invented. You want to sport train for absolute self defense, take up competitive pistol shooting, IDPA etc. Attributed to Samuel Colt: “Be not afraid of any man; No matter what his size; When danger threatens, call on me- And I will equalize!” Be not afraid of any man no matter the size count on me to equalize - colt... or another paraphrase .. God created Man, Samuel Colt made them equal....

[@rdeloges7957]

Danaher was a bouncer?????

[@---tx9xx]

yes@@rdeloges7957

[@---tx9xx]

yep!@@rdeloges7957

[@synchronis346]

I don’t know. Just hearing your voice and seeing what you look like, I just don’t believe you get in street fights. I’m sure you’re great on the mat but you ain’t built like that

[@DarkMuj]

he's a bouncer dude, he's telling a story from work. you should watch another one of his videos about how bjj doesnt work in a street fight, its really good

[@synchronis346]

@@DarkMuj I just don’t believe him.. I’ve seen a few of his videos. He has a cluster B disorder and he’s incentivised to lie and make it seem like he’s been in more fights than he has and has won them so he can make his videos. It’s suspicious that he never gets embarrassed or gets his ass beat. A true narcissist. Always the winner, always the hero. So see through imo.

[@iMogggYouuu]

Then never deny the bIackpiII then

[@DjDolHaus86]

Weight divisions exist for a reason. Even the all time GOAT of the featherweight division is going to need a huge amount of luck to take down a journeyman heavyweight in a no-holds-barred fight

[@ibraheemabdullah4835]

Fantastic storyteller! Seems like you've got a post competition career that you can age gracefully doing😁. Keep up the good work! Peace be with you, brother 👊🏽

[@mineshaftrisotto]

Andrew Wiltse is like Thomas Gilman's pleasant twin.

[@iMogggYouuu]

No BJJ for an elephant. So we know size will inevitably matter lmao

[@domejhit3698]

wow I never considered the girlfriend part of ts that could get so out of hand so quick. I’ve always been more worried about homies jumping but having women around would make me super uncomfortable esp if I had to actually physically get them away. glad I’ve never been there, good story!

[@Toade21]

This is one of my favorite stories ever. Thank you Andrew - I came back to watch this months later. Is that a Hawaii Creations T-Shirt?

[@Bogeyfree69]

I love your fight stories keep them coming l bet you have hundreds of them 🙏👍

[@TheKaneVision]

Great story. I do security myself and train in MMA, BJJ & Wrestling. Done two MMA tournaments. Semi recently had to choke out a patron who was trying to throw a guard over the railing of a stairwell during an ejection. He was fresh out of prison, high on meth or acid so was an absolute unit and strong as fuck. I choked him out 4 times to shut him down cause each time he came too he'd start trying to swing on the guards and punches had zero effect on him. Fourth chokeout he complied with my orders as I too am someone who rather talk to the patron to de-esculate. Only reason he started up agan was cause he saw his girlfriend fighting with the guards and patrons outside so he ran from me and lunged at everyone at the doorway. I had to wrestle him all over the pathway to keep him off the other guards. But yeah he had 7 patrons stomping on his head and haymakering him and he was still trying to get up and fight them once he got away from me when I jumped up from it getting messy with other people swinging punches around me. Didn't know who was who and wasn't risking a soccer kick to the face.

[@HeyItzScotch]

size does matter in this context IF you're trying to be nice like y'all were to that big guy. I'm pretty sure if you had to fight him 1 on 1 and it was a life or death situation, most smaller fighters can and will break both his knees with heel hooks. Ain't no smaller guy wasting his time trying to get a choke submission on someone that much bigger than them. Just a quick heel hook rip with all your might and even a big guy's knee's will shred. Especially if he has zero grappling experience

[@ianskinner1619]

.. I had to face off against a 240lb nationally ranked power lifter, drunk , juiced up on tren and on coke.. feels like the same thing, i had no bird though, just a bunch of police foundations chicken shits who ran every time there was a conflict of any kind. It's scary as hell when you know you are gassed and you have to keep the fight up or get seriously hurt.. i firkin hate that part.. so i finally retired at 55, getting too hard to maintain position, even with PEDS.

[@raymondmartinez1263]

I completely agree on your self defense philosophy, but its like you tossed it out the window here for a drunk bartender you were probably trying to impress, one that %100 needs to be fired for drinking on the job. That whole scenario could have been avoided if you just lied & said he can stay but just waited for the cops who have numbers tasers & handcuffs. Choking people out like that is going to get someone paralyzed &land you in jail, guaranteed.. no clever funny story about badassery then.

[@theparaminuteman]

12:00 Nah its really not that harmful to choke someone out that is reasonably younger and fit (the type of person that gets into a fight to begin with). Knocking someone out is probably several orders of magnitude worse.

[@burnindownthehouse]

You are very good at storytelling! As you were telling the story I was imagining the whole situation in my head and I could imagine how very exhausted you were from trying to contain this guy!

[@Goodser]

Great Story, great points imagine if there was 2 NFL players. People don't realize strength differences. I remember being a blue belt giving my friend a gi so we could train jiu jitsu. My friend formerly played rugby for Ireland (Prop) so there's a large weight and strength discrepancy.. If you ever seen in Rugby a ruck he did that and just mushed me into the ground and tapped me by purposely giving me cauliflower ear with his fist. Another great example is Derrick Lewis who just does a turkish get up with his opponents to his feet.

[@dana.2255]

Derrick Lewis is also a blue belt in BJJ so he doesn't just do these things standing up without a lick of grappling experience

[@designsupplyfit]

He *purposely* gave you cauliflower ear with his fist? Are you sure? If so, what an absolute douche. One thing that strikes me about BJJ is an element of gamesmanship. It's a question of (while training) how much of a dick do you want to be? There's definitely an element of being a dick in rugby culture and I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same in American Football too. By all accounts NFL players are ridiculously explosive while competitive Rugby players have that tenacious, grindy, cardio type strength that overpowers and wears you down over time.

[@youngbuddha7778]

Derrick Lewis just got ragdolled by a guy weighing 20/30 lbs less. Not a good example brother. I think Witse his video is good example how 100/120 lbs is too much but 20/30 lbs was nothing for almeida to ragdolled lewis 😂

[@MRXN-fx5hq]

Apart from maybe the legal issues,what stopped you guys from punching the dude straight on the chin? Considering his size it seems (atleast in my opinion) better to throw punches instead of trying to grapple

[@michaellopez-lq5fn]

Danaher tells some old stories in feet to floor self defense. Same thing bouncing nfl or nba players. You weren’t kidding about the Danaher lesson.

[@user-ii7xc1ry3x]

"We don't even like to fight. Fighting i stupid" BJJ Pro 💀

[@TopDogTrading]

“It’s not as fun as it sounds!” Hilarious 😅

[@trevor_mounts_music]

Crazy day at work for you two, but I don't know if I agree with the "don't involve the police" policy you guys have. Some people DO actually need to have their lives ruined...because they are too stupid to make the right decisions and are a danger to everyone around them 🤷‍♂

[@Mtbjitsu]

The Wiltse brothers are national treasures. You are a natural story teller. Thanks to these guys, even my wife is watching jiu jitsu videos.

[@kubikiribasara3499]

Brother, i have subscribed to your channel with notifications because these reality checks are very necessary. Thank you.

[@claymac7895]

I don’t agree with allowing this guy to simply walk away, not pressing charges on him. This man is going to hurt other people.

[@markmcgoveran6811]

You didn't start putting in your choke according to the judge you started to strangle a person that's not the same and you guys need to get wise to that. We had a kid wrestling with another kid put a joke on him knocked him out and they went ahead and threw him in jail for 6 months and he got two years probation.

[@Hangar1318]

Why the hell were you doing all this instead of the police doing this? Sounds like you had to be there for a long time without any help from law enforcement.

[@thomasbradley9816]

Keep these stories coming. Joe Rogan doesn’t know what he is missing!