BJJ White Belt DESTROYS Coaches Knee (Doesn't Know What to Do...)

Today we have a question from Derrick who feels really crummy about a recent situation at his BJJ Gym...
He is a 3-Stripe White Belt In Jiu-Jitsu, on top of being a bigger, so he tries his best to be as good of a training partner possible without hurting anyone, rolling soft in all his rounds.
Well, recently Derrick and his coach were rolling, and they ended up in the 50/50 Position and, out of nowhere, he injured his coach.
It was a complete accident and even the coach doesn't blame Derrick.
Even though this is true Derrick still feels bad and doesn't know what he should do to make up for the injury.
Well, I give Derrick a few pieces of advice, while also telling you a few stories about injuries I personally suffered in practices, and how I tend to deal with my own injuries when they happen in class.
Hopefully you find these ideas useful for you.
Chewy
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[@SwampCityRadio1974]

I accidentally dumped the smallest person in the gym because we were doing situational sparring and I didn't realise at what point the situational sparring scenario stopped, i.e. if they recover guard or stand up from closed guard that's the end of the spar etc...I didn't realise that she had stopped sparring and I kept going and she was unprepared when I took the back and we crashed face first into the mat. I didn't injure her and apologised but later on I heard some really aggressive comments being made about me. I felt so at risk I left the gym and never went back. I feel so sad about it because I had just started to make friends and blend in. That night I decided that it was too far to travel in peak hour traffic on a motorcycle to get to class and that probably I wasn't able to make good decisions because of exhaustion which contributed to my mistake. I felt so mortified at what I had done and so sad at the way I handled or couldn't handle what had happened. Never told anyone this before.

[@stangdude5593]

That's how I gauge my injuries. If my partner hears a *snap* and stops rolling, I might be okay. If the entire room stops rolling, I'm definitely injured.

[@jtom416]

Lmao great indicator tbh😮

[@DarthRane113]

Lol bad gauge cause that was my reaction to my partner and I broke his femur unfortunately

[@chickasawmike1319]

HAHAHA!!! Its funny because it is true LOL.

[@bakedfortgod8241]

@@DarthRane113how??

[@DarthRane113]

@@bakedfortgod8241 we were both going for heel hooks he actually had more experience and beat me every other time we ended up in the position

[@MrKanti-yy5ux]

My current coach also doesn't particularly care for Professor, so I've taken to calling him "Captain".

[@tigercrush2253]

Injuries suck but they're real. A coach demoed a double leg on me once and then he dropped his weight on me, he accidentally smashed one of my teeth into my lip. Blood everywhere, tooth physically impaled into my lip. Coach felt horrible and everyone stopped class to fuss, but like... you all ain't gonna fix my lip, so go do your double legs.

[@artofwar1776]

Biggest thing I got out of this is, “after coming back from an injury, don’t try to make up for missed time”. Thanks Chewy!

[@TheTyroneBig]

Freak accidents happen. I partially tore by bicep tendon this year during class. Just drilling an escape nothing my partner did.

[@Disc0spider]

In judo, I once got severely injured by a white belt. I was working with a white belt heavyweight (I am also a heavyweight, was a brown belt at the time) and we were doing throw-for-throw, so I would throw him with no resistance, he would then throw me with no resistance etc. I went to throw him with a gentle Osotogari (Major Outer Reap), he got scared, and he just sat down onto the floor, taking my right leg with him. The entire room heard such viciously loud pops and I was in agonizing pain, I couldn't walk. I thought the majority of the damage was in my ankle, but the truth was, my ACL got destroyed, and so did parts of my meniscus. I had to get surgery the following year because the injury got worse. When I first started judo, one of my coaches at the time told me "the most dangerous person on the mat is the biggest white belt" and it's absolutely true. What did I learn from this injury with this white belt? Well, there's a lot of things... maybe my Osotogari was poorly performed as I was trying to be gentle (perhaps too gentle), or maybe I should have gone for a different kind of throw, like a Sasae Tsuri Komi Ashi (Popping Drawing Ankle Throw). I also had to remind myself that it wasn't the white belt's fault, as sometimes, we can involuntarily do something out of instinct or reflex, when we don't want to, and this is especially common with beginners in grappling sports.

[@tededo]

Cyborg Abreu: they say jiujitsu is the gentle art. The only thing gentle about the art is the tap.

[@ukaszb5694]

Depends on the teachear. I watched some Jean Jaques Machado videos on his channel, and he does it exaclty in the gentle, technical way.

[@overrideFunction]

I tore my LCL inexplicably as well. Same type of story as Chewy's knee, it felt just a bit off for a while, then when I was rolling chill it tore. Neither me nor my partner were doing anything crazy and there was no twisting motion on my knee. Things just happen.

[@Shane199416]

Professor is just the direct translation of “teacher” in Portuguese

[@rodvan-zeller6360]

You are correct, also the correct translation of the English word professor to Portuguese is: Professor Catedratico.

[@oscarcruz7065]

50/50 can be a dangerous position. Each person in the 50/50 needs to be aware of the dangers to the knees

[@itpugil]

Some morbidly obese bjj blackbelt went to our gym and normally would just spend his gym session on striking. When there's a bjj class every once in while he tries to tell us what to do, even though our purple belt coach who was the official trainer was around. Then one time our coach came in late, I wasn't there, but he demoed a kimura on a college girl who was a new student, it was her 1st month I think. And by accident the dude injured her. He never came back, the young lady continued to attend bjj and mma sessions but after a month she never returned. He did try to offer her money for her medical bills though so at least there's that. But it was unfortunate that because of this one event, she'll avoid bjj and mma altogether after the incident.

[@olleolausson]

When I first read demoed I was just noooo.

[@olleolausson]

When I first read demoed I just thought noooo that's a gruesome tale.

[@ukaszb5694]

Most important thing is to heal and rebuild the muscles lost. Came too early after having a foot in a cast. Didn't take the time to do enough strength training and rebuild muscles - injured my knee soon after getting back to BJJ.

[@shrimuyopa8117]

Yah honestly, I imagine your coach would sincerely appreciate you just continuing to train. Your coach will find a way to keep teaching while the injury heals.

[@newenglandguitarman3345]

I’ve noticed people in general need to slow down and stop treating every roll like the pan ams There’s a time & a place for speed & intensity and those times are few and far between- tournament or fight prep- certainly not open mat or nightly class rolls. Watching the “ real guys” roll, it’s fluid, technical, mid -tempo , almost playful.

[@adrianbadilla692]

This is like hearing Seneca talking about the fortune (and injuries hehe)

[@NRaptor]

Ooh like the variation on the music at the end

[@teckniec2]

Man I just got back from a back injury and I’m rolling with a guy, get him in mount, he drives his hips, I base with my left arm and somehow my shoulder twisted or something and strained the ligaments. I have no idea how this could have happened. The guy felt really bad and thought he did something wrong but I’m pretty sure it’s just a weird thing that can happen. Sucks but it is what it is.

[@bigmoose1439]

Injuries suck man, part of the risk of it all. Hope you can recover quickly and fully

[@retroghidora6767]

Did you post with a straightened out arm? I could see that potentially causing an issue.

[@TheInfantry98]

Lmao your getting old man

[@jbdlr13]

I broke my orbital floor and maxillary sinus during live roll. Had to take a break for about 3months, now I’m back with a face shield and enjoying it again. Freak accidents happen unfortunately. Just hoping to avoid any major injuries again

[@jstang34]

there is no way in hell I'd roll with someone wearing a face shield 😆

[@jbdlr13]

@@jstang34 👌🏽 I hope you stay healthy and never get injured

[@Emanuel_carey]

My first round with James, when I came to his gym; his knee went out on him. And being an at the time unaffiliated new guy… they locked in on me. Luckily for me, it was a pre-existing injury.(I was a blue belt)

[@shonuff6699]

I was rolling with a newer guy last night and he jumped guard on me. My knee hyperextended, but did not break. He didn’t know any better so I just told him to never do that again. I dodged a major bullet there 😂

[@killercour]

What did he do wrong?

[@gd8681]

@@killercour jump guard, it’s dangerous

[@hentaisailor5951]

​@@killercour jump guard is just putting a huge load on your partner's knees very suddenly which can injure them if they aren't strong enough or just unprepared in general

[@CommissarJake]

I'm a white belt, an Couple of months back, I starting doing a transition from mount into half guard to do a sweep I learned at an Ellis younger seminar, an my training partner at the time, they had their hand on the mat as I started turning and I ended up snapping their middle finger all the way up... I felt so bad but she took it with good cheer an felt no blame for me (Jokingly she pointed out I ended up getting her a summer holiday from work as she recovered from surgery.) Being a martial art, these things happen. Do your best to reduce the chance of Injury, but things happen, it's all about how you handle it if it happens.

[@mastershade14]

Why’d you give up mount?

[@CommissarJake]

@@mastershade14 sorry, I wasn't too clear. They mounted me, positional games. So I was getting out of their mount into half guard.

[@FR-ty5vn]

Awesome 👏 Answer

[@ghost-yb4se]

I broke someone’s neck…. Not bad but he was in a support for a few weeks. Went for a anaconda he tried to roll out of it the wrong way and let out a big scream. This was a long time ago but he come for a couple of classes when he recovered but soon left. Still feel bad about it.

[@BlackPatriot1776]

Injured my foot while rolling with a blackbelt. Dude was only a kid and he felt so bad for injuring me that he was beating him up. And i told him to go out there and keep rolling. And he wouldn’t do it. Then I told him he was pissing me off and I’m a grown man, now go roll. He finally got the message 😂. And then when I had some time to heal, he was the first person I rolled with so he knew I still trusted him with my safety.

[@PescadoDelDiablo]

If I choose to roll with a big/spazzy whitebelt, it’s my fault if I get hurt.

[@danielmckinzey9423]

I like that shirt. Where’s it from?

[@frostytaco101]

I've injured 2 people unfortunately and I still feel bad years and months after

[@codyhughes8013]

Jiu jitsu ain’t for you bro

[@frostytaco101]

@codyhughes8013 well I've done it for 13 years so I think I can handle it bud

[@RocArio]

@@codyhughes8013he has remorse for his fellow human beings. why do people have this idea that BJJ has to be a sport where we’re trying to kill each other?

[@codyhughes8013]

@@frostytaco101 13 years and you be injuring people

[@killercour]

​@codyhughes8013 he never said he Injured them recently champion. Infact he said "years later"

[@ankryth]

"idea to chew on" hahaha

[@TheSchyllerwade]

The man.

[@kevinmilton4789]

I’m th only white belt in bjj 6-7 classes inn. I learn a move an then we practice,then boom… time to roll ,with blue or brown belts . I’m always getting destroyed. When or how am I suppose to learn while grappling at that pace and never winning? Is ths what bjj is all about? Is my coach suppose to help me catc on to some routine or technique?I almost lost a tooth , almost got my arm broke I heard my neck crack I’m always tapping out , they all say ,well your learning. I leave with the most uncomfortable smile.can anyone relate ?

[@kevinmilton4789]

What am I to do

[@tg2190]

If they’re just demolishing you, but not offering any constructive advice along the way, I’d probably dip. If they’re slowing it down occasionally to teach you then it’s really a blessing because that’s a fast and great way to learn. No better way to remember something than losing to it.

[@kevinmilton4789]

@@tg2190 thanks ,. To be honest they do .I jumped into bjj not nothing , I had no idea of what to expect in training an wanted to kno frm someone outside th academy perspective on things, jus to be clear that I’m learning th right way. I do love the training and clearly can admit ths is one of the hardest things I ever had to learn.I’m not quitting

[@kevinmilton4789]

Yes they do try to help sometimes .

[@TapsNapsSnaps]

Can I ask how your meniscus feels now post surgery? I have a tear and I'm not sure about surgery. My knee isn't locking, I just have the pain and loss of some mobility. I want to train hard, but can't explode on my left leg from low positions. Did surgery help you with pain and did it feel any better(or worse) after?

[@TC-bv4on]

This just happened to me. Wouldn’t rush into surgery. Give it some time and see what happens before surgery.

[@TapsNapsSnaps]

@TC-bv4on well for my right knee it has been achey for about 8 months :(

[@TC-bv4on]

Yeah that's no good. Not sure if you tried rehabbing / resting. Inflamed knees aren't going to do everything you ask it to.@@TapsNapsSnaps

[@0num4]

@@TapsNapsSnaps try physical therapy before you go in for orthoscopic surgery. You may just need to work through some toughened connective tissues. If that doesn't do the trick, you may need to see an orthopedic specialist--find a doctor who works either exclusively knees, or at least specializes in knee and one or two other joints.

[@ukaszb5694]

My case I torn a meniscus probably snowboarding, and then it got worse when rolling. It hurt when I was kneeling low. Did a MRI to confirm, then surgery. Now I train again. My case, the torn part was starting to damage the cartilage, I was told that if it was left uncheck and make some major damage, I would need a knee replacement (and that's one of the most serious surgery you can have). The most important thing for the knees is strength training to build muscles and stabilize it. After the surgery I was training on a stationary bike for about 5 months to regain strenght (in the end I could train on maximum load with no pain). Then I got back to BJJ, training 3 months so far.

[@Pepitossj4]

that sport is crazy lol

[@daniel-zh9nj6yn6y]

TLDR: ''If he dies, he dies.''

[@jeremygermenis8036]

Im guessing during class you do the - One Two Three *clap*

[@Chewjitsu]

Guilty as charged

[@knyghtkrawlr]

Although i prefer the title coach myself, i think it is entirely appropriate to call a black belt in bjj professor. If you study something for 10+yrs that would be approximate to a phd and think it deserves a similar amount of respect.

[@theinfjgoyim5508]

Breaking posture is a huge problem in BJJ... they don't get it. Also, most BJJ guys will cry if you wrestle them too much.

[@MichaelFoxFamily]

You should title this video "Echo elbowed me in the face!" Lol! Great click bait!

[@Chewjitsu]

Haha. Weill save that for another some day.

[@redrumrabbit]

Why is a 3 stripe white belt working 50/50 😂

[@kainthavampire]

pretty normal in nogi

[@jtom416]

Just because his belt can't do it in competition, doesn't mean it's not gonna get taught and practiced. And a 3 stripe white belt can be at a blue belt level, and just not promoted yet

[@mamabearthrives7815]

@@jtom416 I think he even said that he’s been training for two years 🤷‍♀️

[@KazzArie]

To grief upper belts, why else?

[@jstang34]

white belts shouldnt be taught lockdown.

[@senorgaren]

First

[@theonewhoknocks2809]

No white belt should be in 50/50 at least a brand new one. Dangerous position