Cupra Born 58 1000 km challenge

[@MrJoerg83]

Thanks for the test Bjorn. I got my Born 2 weeks ago and finished my first 1000 km on it. Even though its not as thought out as your tests are; im averaging 18,7 kWh/100km with 92 km/h average speed on the factory summer tyres. I drive it daily to work for about 60km on the Austrian Autobahn with speeds up to 130 km/h at temperatures around 5-11°C over the last 2 weeks. I've yet to see minus temperatures but Im hoping the promised updates help improve on its efficiency in cold temperatures until next winter. The touch controls on the steering wheel where quite frustrating at the start but Im slowly getting used to it. Everything else is either ok or very good to use; but im mostly just sitting in the car driving from a to b. For around 25.000 Euro (due to a refund of my old 2.0 Diesel from 2014) this one has way more stuff than I ever gonna need. Heres to hoping it will hold up good for the next 7-10 years. Thanks for all your effort, greetings from Austria 🙂

[@NHB14]

so did the updates for the firmware help with longer range? are you still happy with the car?

[@Greatdane-qf8kd]

Still happy with it?😊

[@Pekkispoju]

"Depress the brake to start." means you have to say some unfriendly things to the pedal until it is in deep depression.

[@altern8ive]

The definition of depress is to : _push or pull (something) down into a lower position._ Depressing the brake moves the brake pedal to a lower position :)

[@gisobo]

That's depressing

[@Jannikheu]

Nah, it's a true brain fart!

[@kanaljenskanal]

You press an orange and depress a button

[@szaboaz]

VW: Depress the brake Bjorn: Hey, brake! You won't be used very much in an electric car! Brake: :( :(

[@RaXXha]

@@kanaljenskanal Technically you could press a button too, since press means to enact force upon an object.

[@carlomorischi3435]

These small MEB cars (ID.3, Born) are too thirsty!

[@feedrate1]

we always enjoy your work and appreciate your time and efforts 👌

[@veeveehase]

Got a Cupra Born 58, not heatpump, from europcars. It did some kind of coldgate just recently. 3°C outside, 300km Autobahn with an average speed of 90km/h was not enough to heat up the battery (enough?). Started with 50kW 10% and it climbed to 80kW when it reached about 50% which was enough to reach my destiny. Never saw anything like +100kW on the 300kW-charger.

[@WTFaq]

You make me laugh every time. The double sausage..

[@Jonathan-un4yy]

I really hope the livestreams will be back soon!

[@danedane6613]

Hi Bjørn. Why don’t you live stream 1000 km challenge any more? Just wondering. Hope you are well 🙂

[@RoteLars]

Streamlabs dosen't work great anymore.

[@paescu_2k350]

Yeah I think you should continue to do livestreams

[@EVLars]

I think Streamlabs is really Shitlabs now on days. It's mess up everything. Not even I do more Livestream longer, even try it with computer and camera, iCrap devices (Apple shieeeeeeeeeet) and still bugging big time. And new rules for phone need to be out reach and fine to have even phone on wireless charger in car can even give you ticket and many K in fines and dots on the driving license.

[@danedane6613]

@@rogerstarkey5390 he answered the question in another video

[@philsmtbs2956]

Abc - Always Bring Passport

[@lampiditesla]

It is ridiculous that the car is not showing the SoC at arrival.

[@jpaulor]

Definition of depress: 3. push or pull (something) down into a lower position. "depress the lever"

[@gisobo]

What a depressive thing to do!

[@RaXXha]

In this case press and depress would be the same thing. Strictly "to press" means to enact force upon something, whereas "to depress" means to push something down. Same results when it comes to the pedals in a a car.

[@Jornfromtjorn]

waiting for MG marvel and Renault megane e-tech testings :)

[@u.wunschel7311]

Cupra Born🥰

[@nicolasfrankboehmer2240]

Depress ... correct according to translation from German, meaning "press down". Still unusual. But maybe just describing the state the software engineer was in.

[@peterzerfass4609]

Translations into english at major german companies are handled terribly. You'll always find people who think they 'know how to speak english' and will do it by themselves instead of giving the translation task to a native speaker (which is what professional translation agencies do). The number of horribly wrong translations I've seen in production software (which have lead to no end of raised eyebrows and loss of contracts at trade shows) is actually...depressing.

[@paulsimpson8990]

It’s not a German translation issue, that’s actually a word in the English language……depression means something lower down. A depression in the ground is a area that is lower. If you’re depressed you are lower. If you depress the brake pedal you push it down lower.

[@PalpatinesPlumber]

58 1000km, wow that's a lot

[@jarsmoreira]

Could it be the case, that higher speeds and lower temperatures, increases so much the consumption, that it could actual be better/quicker to drive slower? Maybe driving 10 km/h slower, would still get the battery warm enough for proper charging. Actually, in actual driving time and average speed, which were the differences to the ID. 3?

[@StephenButlerOne]

This is going to be very interesting for me as im waiting on delivery of one. I ordered trh v3 58kwh eboost in vapour grey. Hopfully ill jave it by xmas.

[@antonioteje27]

Heat pump is an option in Cupra Born, I think your unit is not equipped with it, that can be the explanation of that high consumption with cold weather.

[@bjornnyland]

Heat pump is standard on Cupra Born in Norway.

[@antonioteje27]

@@bjornnyland wow, allright then, soooo high consumption 🤦

[@KevinT3141]

13:58 Fuel mills!

[@bjornnyland]

*turbines

[@KevinT3141]

@@bjornnyland More accurate, less fun.

[@johannes92]

Pleace test MG ZS EV 2022 and MG Marvel R

[@timothyvenn4193]

Bjorn, to depress the break just tell it sad stories.

[@Mountaindiscoverer]

I suggest to rename Cupra Born as Cupra Bjorn

[@BNHardwarereviews]

Can you redo the test at the summer? would be nice. only if you can. all your tops is doing at summer.

[@bjornnyland]

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[@JM-mb6tf]

Are the full beam lights as good as it looks on the video ?? Seems to be great lights.

[@ziggyyo]

9:14 ABC Always Blame the Car (Computer) 😁

[@ziggyyo]

The car computer will hopefully provide SoC estimation for the destination with the next software release 3 or 3.1

[@jasonblair4057]

Hi Bjorn, will you do an update of the software 3.0 on the MEB cars later this year to see if they have improved. I guess you will be on the Id.Buzz.

[@plnp6246]

Depress means "pressing the brake", you were thinking depress is the same as release, but not really... :p

[@ObserverDingue]

Shortest car review ever: Cupra Born 58 - " whatever... 🙄" 🤣 Just don't depress the brakes any more than you have to, they might decide to end it all! Poor Cupra, needs therapy 😂

[@Vitnir3]

When I tried the Born the GOM would only be accurate if I cruised at 90km/h

[@randomrud]

Its a thirsty boy.

[@carlomorischi3435]

This Born is without heat pump right? Would be interesting to do the same test with an ID3/Born with Heathpump

[@NeroSelle]

Heat pump is standard on Born in Norway

[@karl-heinzoehling483]

Whether a heat pump is installed can be determined acoustically at the higher frequencies during operation.

[@544juanito]

Option In The uk for 900 pounds 🙈🤦‍♂️

[@carlomorischi3435]

Has the Born already received the update of MEB platform that increases peak charging speed to 135kw?

[@matteoleonardiTN]

This is the 58kwh for sure updated to 120kw charging, originally 100kw

[@scottwills4698]

Would this car be faster if you did 100km stints? I know you lose the overhead but charging less than 50kw is too slow to be hanging around. I wonder if it was preheating for charging as you were navigating to a charger? Maybe this would explain the high consumption?

[@bjornnyland]

Not possible.

[@emceh]

Any reason you don't use OBD Link introduced recently in ABRP?

[@jacobsmedegaard5426]

Hej can you make the 1000km challenge with this car in nice weather and in nice temperatures at the Sweden route, because I have just bought one, but i can not find any who have testet what it kan do when the weather is nice, they have all made their review in cold temperatures 🙂

[@kagukukkus]

How much did you spend for the electricity bill 1000km? 🙂

[@EdmondG.]

Please do 100k km challenge with the Fiat 500e 42kw

[@chrisfox5525]

Does this car have the optional heat pump?

[@bjornnyland]

Standard in Norway

[@Tsenngu]

Why the heck does this have such insane consumption? My kona since i got it october last year and i drive around 2500KM pr month at work with the company kona my avrg since then is 19.8 and i have a lead foot and i want 23 degrees in the cabin. (last 3 weeks the consumption is 17.9 and i do alot of 120km highway driving to boot) My colleague has the ID3 and he is a unlucky bastard his consumption is 23+ all the time since same date as i got my car.

[@bjornnyland]

Did you drive at 120+ km/h?

[@evboy4287]

The reason is aggressive battery heating when the battery is colder than 8C (?). Easy to casually drive for 10 mins and loose 5 percent capacity. When it is warmer then 12 it's a non issue and consumption is as low or lower as with others. Supposedly there will be a software update, battery chemistry shouldn't be that different. Now this still doesn't explain the stark difference in the 1000km challenge?

[@carlomorischi3435]

Hey Bjorn, on the third leg you had a consumption of 300 wh/km why is that? It's VERY VERY high! What speed have you traveled at?

[@pasi2305]

Very high indeed. Average speed was 100km/h so consuption was 7kWh higher than ID3. Just like battery heater is always heating. I don't think cabin heater is constant 7kW

[@kaasman78]

Bjorn always drives at the speed limit with VAT.... 😎

[@vincentmartin5360]

You can see below the consumption, that the average speed was 127 kmh for that leg, thats probably the reason.

[@karl-heinzoehling483]

@@pasi2305 The inlet battery temperature never increased. So no battery heating.

[@karl-heinzoehling483]

@@devonbikefilms Björn Cupra Born uses the SW-Version 910 (2.3). The battery heater always runs below 7°C in SW version 2.3. Unfortunately, no increased inlet temperature could be seen from the OBD values.

[@iskad74]

What does it cost to drive 1000 km? Approximate cost is good enough. Just to have a near reference to take into consideration? :-)

[@christianurban]

Depends on what you pay for electricity in your country.

[@mirtjelovsek]

Why did you drive in "B" instead of "D"? Is there some reason other then ICE feel while driving?

[@bjornnyland]

B has higher regen.

[@mirtjelovsek]

@@bjornnyland I understand that, but isn't more efficient to drive constantly with same speed in "D"? Instead of regen-acceleration, regen-acceleration.... When you brake, it's automatically on regen unless you brake very hard. I am EV owner for 4 years and I am really curious what type of driving is more efficient with EV's.

[@olavbru5982]

i wase tinking shop this car but now i will not maybi wait for the toyota test :)

[@LivinginNorthernNJ]

I guess your mouth sore from a couple weeks ago is gone, huh? Garlic sauce and ketchup didn't hurt this time?! 😂

[@arnebirkeland6249]

As speed increase, consumption increase more, but charging speed remains the same.(As long as you not coldgate). Perhaps you would totally use shorter time if you lowered the top speed to 100 or 110 km/?

[@bjornnyland]

Nope

[@marcinh7889]

@@bjornnyland you used shorter stints when testing other cars (especially TM3). Looks like you changed procedure and the result is not comparable. It was more like trip not a 1000km challenge.

[@bjornnyland]

@@marcinh7889 Incorrect. Model 3 has access to supercharger which means way more flexibility for charging stops. If you actually watched the other 1000 km challenges, you will realize that I stop at the exact same Ionity chargers (except for Håby) for all the other cars as well. This result is in fact comparable with the other tests. You probably just didn't like the result.

[@marcinh7889]

@@bjornnyland it just looks like TM3 ride is opimized for result and this ride is opimized for comfort. Maybe it's just my impression, because you charge Seat to such high SOC. Seat would be faster if charged to lower SOC.

[@kruemelfelix]

@@marcinh7889 Do you really want to stop every 80km if you only charge to 60%? That's laughable xD

[@kenl78]

noob question, what is gum?

[@jeremygleave6593]

Do you mean GOM? If so it’s the Guess O Meter.

[@apicharjiratanan4285]

I should buy some hotdogs for your next vdo also.. :-D

[@thomasmcguire8489]

You keep referring to the cupra born as the poor man's id3 even tho it's move expensive and much better interior quality better infotainment system and just looks better

[@bjornnyland]

It *is* cheaper than ID3. At least in Norway.

[@JKV84]

I have this car. USELESS on highways.

[@Bultish]

Hej hejjj

[@stefanlageambecker6077]

Ev cars no thanks.

[@SasquatchMelee]

First!

[@alanhold2468]

first

[@Daniel-ri2ys]

What a boring car, it has zero wow factor. The entertainment system is laggy and over complicated and the consumption is just terrible for such a small car.