Black Legion vs Astra Militarum 1500pts a Battle of Lost Cadia. Warhammer 40k Battle Report.

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1500 points of Astra Militarum vs the Black Legion as as Chaos Dave is back in the play on studio to challenge Guard Nick!
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Sponsot

[@drabantcorper4727]

Sponsor you mean?

[@miniwargaming]

Khorne approves of the skulls that were reaped on this battlefield!!! Amazing game and always an absolute pleasure to battle Nick. Play On is by far the titans of the t-shirt companies. I'd wear most shirts they make.

[@PlayOnTabletop]

Dave it was a pleasure as always. Go check these guys out if you haven’t!

[@TFZ.]

Destroy the chaos FILTH!!!

[@midwesternexplorer9339]

It was boring and one sided. we like close games, not this.

[@TFZ.]

@@midwesternexplorer9339 Well, doesnt that just HAPPEN sometimes? If they magically made every game a close game, that would mean they were scripted... I'm sad chaos won in universe, and it was one sided, but the effort put into production, painting, table making and more should make up for a not edge of your seat game EVERY time right?

[@midwesternexplorer9339]

@@TFZ. Im not asking them to fix a game. I am merely stating my opinion. It was "Not fun" to watch for me. It was one sided. the production was fine, but it was very much like every other game. "OH NO I MISSED! Followed by bad acting. Rinse and repeat. Again, im not asking for anything. Just stating that it was not an amazing match to watch.

[@DantesonofSparda85]

That Vanquisher tank crew needs a visit from the Inquisition cause those misses were downright HERETICAL. Someone get Asmodai over here as well!

[@Flowfully]

its like that whole platoon is at the shooting range and an entire horizon of bullets just cause a huge plume of dust and when it settles, not 1 target was hit, and you see Gaurd Nick with his commissar hat on and an eye patch, yelling at his men "come onnnn, the target is right in front of you!!" and he lines up a tank point blank range and it fires and still misses

[@raviolihotdog105]

The absolute despair on nicks face as the tank fails to hit literally every shot is almost comical

[@blackgem12]

INTERROGATE!?

[@thenorwegianmaestro2007]

@@blackgem12 Our assumptions are confirmed! WHAT! He has a suspicious book! BOOK! He's in cahoots with the Fallen! FALLEN! Make him REPENT! REPEEEEEEEEENT! (TTS: Episode 28 @31:06) (Yes, I know this comment and video is "old", but I can't help myself.)

[@captainconway2236]

Inquisitor Walks up to the Vindicator crew, Plasma Pistol in hand: "You have failed your emperor for the last time. . ." *que plasma blasts and screaming as executions are carried out*

[@SaytreJudd]

The Vanquisher missing all those shots hurts my soul.

[@Medicae131]

Imagine how much damage he would have done if he'd just brought a normal cannon or plasma.

[@TheUnholyHandGrenade]

This is why the Lemans I've had in the past were packing Battle Cannons even though they had Vanquisher barrels. Vanquishers kinda suck.

[@michaelritzen8138]

It's better to make the vanquishers normal tanks instead of TCs, but even a reroll 1 order wouldn't have helped Nick this game. On average, he should have hit more than 2 times in 3 turns, and in that case the Vanquishers are absolutely devastating.

[@mreed7995]

It shouldn’t have missed when hitting on threes because it has the turret keyword I believe

[@michaelritzen8138]

@@mreed7995 unless something got -1 or in some cases, he was rolling 1s and 2s XD

[@dexter724]

This makes me so sad to see this guard unable to kill anything...

[@grinningdragondren]

Thematic

[@cyanideinmycereal1077]

That's pretty much how guard plays. You're good at nothing. There's supposed to be a lot of you, but given the point costs usually there isn't. You kinda just are.

[@greggillespie8259]

Makes me more upset that we waited almost three years for a rather “meh” codex

[@michaelritzen8138]

@@greggillespie8259 I think that this was a rather meh written list and played fairly poorly. Instead of the Deathstrike, a Basilisk or Manticore would have been more useful. More leman russ tanks would have made more of a difference, compared to 80 guardsmen and 2 Chimeras and the only time we saw the Sentinel, was when it got destroyed in close combat, so I reckon it didn't really contribute either. No offense to Nick, he was really unlucky with his rolls, but guard need volume of fire, especially from tanks and artillery, not lasguns.

[@andrewcrawford8306]

Not a great list and awful rolls.

[@onezerotwo]

Nick has learned the lesson all Guard commanders do at some point: the Vanquisher will always betray you.

[@Flowfully]

its like the Ironclad for the Kharadron Overlords in sigmar, the biggest most badass guns always get out rolled by the gun butts in melee that do nothing

[@Auscarsy]

That’s why I picked Demolisher cannon. I couldn’t take that kind of betrayal.

[@Novicman]

Sure Vanquisher isn't reliable but it's cool and super fun when you hit and opponent ask how much damage? It's D6+6 and he just start sweating.

[@psychomockingbird]

Nick : Can you break through the 70-80 bodies ? Dave : The sea of bodies ? Corvus : THE WALL OF GUNS !!!!!

[@cyanideinmycereal1077]

Classic

[@Idontevenwanachannel]

Wall of guns couldn't hit the broadside of a barn this game

[@dylangreenacre7028]

Nick "cadia stands, forever" Dave "no it doesnt" Why was it so easy to picture an annoyed chaos marines all like "for the love of slaanesh, cadia is gone" 🤣

[@PlayOnTabletop]

It is easy to picture

[@breadstick4458]

"Enemies of the Imperium, hear me. You have come here to die. The Immortal Emperor is with us and we are invincible. His soldiers will strike you down. His war machines will crush you under their treads. His mighty guns will bring the very sky crashing down upon you. You cannot win. The Emperor has given us his greatest weapon to wield. So make yourselves ready. We are the Cadian Shock Troopers, and today is our Victory Day." So hyped for this one

[@thomasderosso5625]

Abaddon: "Nah."

[@foster1748]

But have you heard of "moon-sized projectile"

[@TheIronMarshall]

@@foster1748 the 40k version of rage quitting

[@thegiantcrow7416]

@@TheIronMarshall the 40K version of disrespect, didn’t even want it anymore and said no one could have it

[@Azzie420]

Khorne: fling Angron at em!!!

[@troutwarrior6735]

Is this the start of more guard on the channel? Nick rolling Russes around does indeed put a smile on my face!

[@MeAndSomeRandoms]

Ah the prophecy of "Guard-Nick" will finally be fullfilled.

[@MeAndSomeRandoms]

Haha I knew it!

[@JunkheaDxX]

hope so. 🤞

[@Tyrnak_Fenrir]

You know, it's hard to show off the new stuff when you can't hit to save your life, literally. Excellent battrep as always, and it's always fun to see some of my favorite channels colab, especially when it's Dave and Nick

[@Flowfully]

i like how this channel feels, you genuinely feel a hospitality with these players of Playon tabletop, more collabs with other youtubers would be great, its a needle in a haystack finding opponents like Nick and Dave who can match eachother's energy and humor.

[@eltharion55]

JT: Is Chaos bad? Me (a loyal servant of the Emperor): Yes Commisar, this man right here.

[@deyan6558]

Nick and Dave, narrated by JT. What more can you ask for?

[@zachwiseman9635]

Perhaps a Nick and Mr. Initiative vs Dave and Tyko battle report

[@mr.revrac5602]

Tyranids, you can always ask for tyranids

[@StygianTraveller]

Better dice rolls, apparently.

[@deyan6558]

@@zachwiseman9635 Now that is proper banger, mate.

[@deyan6558]

@@mr.revrac5602 You write Tau very weird mate :D

[@coldsteel.and.courage]

A vanquisher should always have the Commandeer tank ace with the sharpshooters trait for that guaranteed reroll to hit. 3+ rerollable is about a 88% chance of hit.

[@PlayOnTabletop]

Next time you bet.

[@charliebrownjohn1464]

yeh that trait is insane

[@michaelritzen8138]

I would never make my Vanquisher a TC. It would be better to have 1 to 3 Vanquisher(s) accompanied by a normal leman russ Tank Commander. 3 vanquishers with reroll 1 to hit will be devastating.

[@coldsteel.and.courage]

@@michaelritzen8138 you aren't listening. I said tank ace, not tank commander. Commandeer is one of the tank ace traits.

[@michaelritzen8138]

@@coldsteel.and.courage yes, and I rebutted that, having a vanquisher, not as a tank commander, and therefor without the tankace will also get reroll ones if a tank commander is nearby. In the example of this game, I would have made the punisher the tank commander to buff the vanquisher. This is assuming that Nick didn't have points to spare for a tank ace.

[@Dragon_Fyre]

Having just witnessed Nicks first round, I kind of feel like the end result of defeat is inevitable.

[@Kellhound32]

Yeah, you just identified the biggest problem with this game. There is no coming back after doing ZERO damage on your first turn. Or second...

[@TheGimpy117]

i know, check those dice! lol

[@Dragon_Fyre]

I think there are games where you just acknowledge that the dice have gone so poorly against one player in round one, that it would be more fun for the unfortunate player to just declare a forfeit at end of that round and request a re-match. They do tend to concede games at Play On Tabletop but only at Round 5+ once victory is impossible based on available points to be scored.

[@robertlemonade9268]

Despite how good the new guard codex is and how good of a general Nick is, there isn't anything that can change the luck of the dice

[@ozmanoshe]

This is what happens when you let a gue’la traitor general the imperium’s finest. His commissar should have executed him after that turn 1 rhino debacle.

[@Flowfully]

i have a theory, and just bare with me now, it may take alot of effort, but painting over the 1's and 6's and switching them, maybe you will roll the same and still get abunch of ones, isnt that how reality goes!! but i think this may work for symbol dice that lean towards 1's

[@robertlemonade9268]

That's brilliant!

[@Luiz-Fernando-Meireles]

And a bad list + questionable decisions.

[@ForecastCold]

CADIA BROKE BEFORE THE GUARD! This looks awesome, can't wait!

[@Flowfully]

the sheer might of this intro, i felt the gaurd really never gave up, and everyone else is running away but Cadia stays!!! Cadia Stands!!!

[@rw7118]

Hopefully Nick learned his lesson to not waste your tanks doing something like charging a lord discordant to save some guardsmen

[@PlayOnTabletop]

If I hadn’t he would have heroically intervened. Sadly.

[@rw7118]

@@PlayOnTabletop Understandable, have a nice day

[@IdioticSynergy]

Tonite on POT Gear: Dave dabbles in some Erebussy type shenanigans, Nick commits large amounts of war crimes using unauthorised deathstrikes and Tycho becomes a ethereal beard like being that sees all

[@tiberiumnp8030]

Still not funny.

[@IdioticSynergy]

@@tiberiumnp8030 in your opinion

[@Flowfully]

i thought the beard part was funny, like maybe Tycho becomes a lord of change, and his beard has a million eye balls

[@keyne444]

Nick, get in touch with Mordian Glory. He'll give you some good tips. You need to up your Guard game.

[@PlayOnTabletop]

This is not wrong.

[@keyne444]

@@PlayOnTabletop but until then, play on! 😌

[@Waagghhboy]

Love this battle report. Love this channel. This is the worst shooting I've seen from the new guard codex in any Battle report lol sorry Nick! That being said, all them 6's to hit reminded me of why everyone likes the auto wounding rule

[@jdcrosier2682]

"Is Chaos even bad?" Objectively, yes, very much so. Comparatively, not really. They certainly aren't the good guys, but the Imperium is so mind-bendingly fricked up that there is an argument to be made that they are at least on equal footing with Chaos.

[@thefloridaman41]

Cheers to Nick for being such a good sport when he really could have been rightfully salty. Any chance we can get an Elves vs Dwarves 40k battle soon?

[@JoshyXD]

Love the effect of the Deathstrike taking off 👌

[@TheMD93]

Sometimes I have trouble paying attention through the whole video but MAN this was a winner. The table effects were amazing, the sponsor looks sick and I'm definitely investing, and fuckin' Dave man! What a radical dude! I need him and Nick going against each other every week. The chemistry is undeniable.

[@MasterrangerABR]

6:08 I can hear tak's rage at that line, 6:16 and that rage turns to laughter. 8:21 Drive me closer I want to hit them with my sword.

[@joakimandersson7769]

Is "Nick being bad" part of the narrative throughline on the channel or is it unintentional quality content? XD

[@ericmats4662]

Played my first battle with the new Astra codex today. Been so hyped, astra is my big "love", i could sell all other armies but never my guard. Was so excited! But, every step of the way i just got more and more dissapointed. (played without the balance dataslate rules). Just kept on comming into cases where i thougt, well, if that was the old codex my unit would be alive now. If that was the old codex that enemy unit would be dead now. etc etc... Artillery cant hit anything, vehicles are once again back to being squishy without AoC, infantry became more expensive. Guess i just have to give it a few more games, but the first game really put me down

[@SneakyBeeBuzzBuzz]

Similar experience playing my Guard tonight... jusy felt like an uphill battle against other 9th codex

[@dragma907]

Did guard lose armor of contempt?

[@SneakyBeeBuzzBuzz]

@@dragma907 i wouldn't play them without AoC.... AoC and no LOS penalty was introduced in a batlance dataslate when I think Guard codex was already written therefore there is no reason the codex should mention it, and besides, why would CSM still benefit from AoC and Guard wouldn't?

[@ericmats4662]

@@SneakyBeeBuzzBuzz i think, but might be mistaken. That chaos had AoC in their Codex, but guard doesnt.

[@zackholloway324]

Seems like if you're not using "Born Solders" battle trait for Guard you are almost playing them on hard mode. great bat rep.

[@CMTechnica]

I’ve never seen smokescreen be that effective Or humorous

[@MrThatpersonthatguy]

The happy energy of this episode is infectious. Thanks Play On, Greatest content creator EVER

[@Domesthenes]

Dave's manic laughter is amazing. Pure Chaos.

[@stax6092]

Great Game, always love to see Dave especially with Black Legion because Black Legion is da best. Mind you, I feel like I have seen Dave on this channel more than MWG, did he move out west? XD

[@urface716]

I like the little Easter egg of the Sentinel looting that Defiler arm.

[@thedm8873]

CADIA LIVES *STOMP STOMP*

[@DarthChratis]

I feel sorry for Nick, there was no reason for this to be this onesided

[@Flowfully]

chaos armies have some serious tricky when you rolling dice against them, almost makes me think good guys should get some sort of advantage for like fighting against their odds or luck in this case!

[@theguyonthecouch6109]

Wow, I think that was one of the most one sided fights I've seen on your channel lol

[@ryanmarquez9404]

It's great seeing the new codex being just as useful as the last codex

[@damightystevo]

The codex is fine, there was just a string of bad luck and some fairly questionable game choices going around. The new book is a massive improvement.

[@kinkarcana1293]

Yep, GW being shi t as always in the crafting and balance processes. This in combination with sacrificing White Shields and Veterans. Gonna pirate this codex since GW refuses to even playtest thier shit.

[@mattmorrill8547]

@@damightystevo Just wait until AoC and the indirect fire exemption go away, Guard will be back in trash tier

[@alessiogiuffrida6172]

Is so shitty that other you tubers like SN and Skari actually won with it 😂

[@mistamomo]

@@mattmorrill8547 I haven't been playing Guard with AOC and the games go very well

[@cenomnestpasvalide2201]

This vainquisher reminded me of 4/5th ed times where i had my hammerhead continuously whiff on a few games. 1 shot death gun on a 4+ to hit can be rough

[@bugmanzgaming9054]

25:10 Ah yes, the Tervigon, the secret weapon that the Black Legion have in store. The bomb they'll drop on Cadia itself!

[@jango268]

My only real issue with the new Cadians (and I'm sorry if you can't unsee it) but their helmets look like baseball helmets. more like ready to play ball instead of read to die 😂

[@RevanR]

The amounts of salt in this match is really high

[@missingone9185]

It would've been pretty funny if they had a Trazyn the Infinite miniature in the background just lurking about

[@PlayOnTabletop]

Oh I totally should have!

[@subzer0381]

Noticed that awesome camerawork in the intro, you guys always manage to keep stepping it up! Great job!

[@eddyastor2724]

Chaos be celebrating this until a huge Emo Space Fortress blasts the whole damm planet seconds after...

[@Lord_Aussem]

The leman russ vanquisher has had this problem for as long as I can remember. It’s got a great cannon, but good luck hitting on a 4+.

[@daniel_fyr2515]

Did Dave forget abaddons free re-roll to charge?

[@FnRenner]

Nick did not enjoy that last round much and it kinda showed... is there a heel turn in Nick's future? A turn to the dark side? Is hearing the whispers of a Dark Prince or 4?

[@snowbjorne]

Your production quality is off the hook! And great content!

[@alexg2933]

Dave forgot so many rules for his CSM….. and he still wiped the floor with this imperial dog! The gods have truly blessed him!

[@miniwargaming]

Story of my life lol

[@daemonnexusknight]

I love this battle so much! Great players and fun armies. :)

[@MariusGage]

Love this energy, been in the fence for backing for more content and support you guys and this has pushed me over! Such a good Battlereport and that board is *chef kiss*

[@DavidGoldberg47]

Beginning of the game, Nick spreads his orders to his infantry units like a chain (from one to the next then to the next, then to the next, etc), when they don't work that way; you order a unit and it can spread to other units within 6" of the first unit. He might have been able to get the first couple squads but that last squad or so would have been out of range.

[@PlayOnTabletop]

Hmm. I think you may be right! I read it different. Thanks!

[@ramon_warpainter]

Absolutely insane!!! Amazing video with all of those FX , and WHAT A SHITTY Vanquisher!!!! :DDDDD

[@masonshilling6821]

I did not even finish the video yet but I really like seeing all of the different flavors of infantry in one video.

[@callumoloughlin7420]

i love how they go for the handshake, mess it up and then both mutually agree to go again

[@REL4X0]

The overlay on the left is wrong, it's called "Krieg" not "Kreig".

[@sebastiantrost6409]

If the vanquisher would have hit early on, this could have gone very differently. Playing against CSM is a game against time, you need to thin their ranks before they connect. (Thats what the bubble wrap infantry is for, dying to preserve the emperor's paint jobs on the russes) Even my Alpha Legion tends to shred stuff if the get to melee and those long charges early put you on the backfoot hard.

[@MrBanditoRazor]

This is an amazing batrep. Me and my fiance play One Page Rules and I'm curious how it would have gone there 🤔 might have to see... Good job as always guys!

[@tom4115]

There was probably a little too much going on, on this board imo, a little hard to see what was happening for me. Otherwise another amazing video.

[@paittenmedicineeagle4559]

"Is chaos bad?" As they pan to the miniatures with heads on their armor.

[@robertmccann9631]

Mark of Tzeentch for 15 points is brutal.

[@Razor-ds1zc]

As a non-playing Imperial Guards fan, I'm always happy to see them show up. That said, those tank crews have earned summary executions for all those missed rolls and re-rolls that hurt me on a spiritual level. It feels like the Deathstrike was the most effective unit, entirely as a deterrent, despite it failing to kill any heretics. All in all, feels like a pretty accurate re-enactment of Cadia, despite not having read the lore for it yet.

[@Lazarultos]

Definitely feels like one of the many battles that took place on Cadia in the desperate fight to hold back the enemy until the pylons were activated. It felt like a broken Trench Line with mixed Cadian and Krieg soldiers in the fight as if their regiments got scattered by earlier attacks and they're defending with whoever was available here.

[@bitcoinyoda8321]

What a table, what a trailer and great players! Love it! (Dead Cadian and Ork on the tower, nice details!)

[@Usaal]

Dave says "I get exploding hits with Deffy" then proceeds to roll 6s to hit on both heavy weapons and doesn't add the extra hits, haha classic CSM player :)

[@garylingenfelter4111]

The Guard looks fantastic, Nick might have saved his Armor by having the infantry be meat shields🤔 Dave's Army Scary up close all I see is Guards dying by the dozens.😁 Dave and Nick bring that energy.

[@GabAllThePizza]

22:19 Nick forgot kreig have mini transhuman

[@Gooch359]

Great game and awesome energy! But was there a sneaky ork hiding in a tower?

[@PlayOnTabletop]

Yep!

[@bommdude1474]

This was a GREAT game. I loved both of their energy’s, especially how much of a good sport Nick is with those rolls. Play on!

[@declandagod5450]

the first turn realy shows just how broken tau guns can be comapred to over shooting armys

[@grimnartusk265]

dudes first model and his idea of "bad" is better than anything i've ever painted lol

[@adibpranata9986]

I know it's impossible to have a perfect community, there's always gonna be a salty cheater type. But seeing these guys just having fun made Warhammer tabletop so much interesting and I don't even know how to play it 🤣

[@metroidsax1]

THIS BETTWR BE GOOD! And it's true. The planet broken before the guard fell back, they stood there ground

[@itsflyde]

Your production value just keeps getting better!!!

[@OmniHakurei]

That Vanquisher tank crew That Vanquisher tank crew I Smell HERECI

[@emperornapoleon6204]

Amazing batrep! The energy is off the charts!

[@siac888]

I feel sorry for Nick. Sure, the army was Not the Most suited to fight chaos, But the Dices were so much against him.. it didnt even seem fair.

[@Madkklown]

In my head. This battle is where castellan bought the evacuating troops, templars, and astartes time, to get off the planet. Defiant to the last. Cadia Stands!

[@andypaul3788]

Tau’tal Nickall vs MWG Dave!!! Loved the energy these two bring to the table

[@KingofAllThatIsMostlyBlue]

Tau nick wasn’t in this one, but Guard Nick

[@laughingbuddha5427]

Poor Nick, every time I've watched him play his rolls have been about the same quality as what we saw here. He's still awesome though!

[@HispAnakin42]

Chaos are 100% the bad guys. It’s just that imperium are also the bad guys but at least some people in the imperium are trying to make it better. Chaos just wants to see it burn.

[@cadenkunkle9495]

“CADIA STANSS FOREVER!” “NO IT DOESNT!” 😂😂😂 I love these guys

[@donclark712]

2 minutes until Cadia falls again. Love it!

[@Thingymabob1000]

Only critique is this needs more Death Korps...in this defense of...Cadia...I just like Krieg lol. This board though, this board is absolutely gorgeous!

[@professorkhepri]

The single legionnaire actually carrying the victory of Cadia on his back and his back ALONE

[@reimalaluan9694]

Sir Nick, you are truly blessed..... By Steve dice rolls. Great battle report as always.

[@xtremephylyp]

Hate to be that guy but it's "Krieg" not "Kreig", also in the video description: "their" not "there"

[@inzo7856]

I think dave is actually Abadon...😊

[@thekinginyellowmessiahofha6308]

Bunch of doomers in the comments who can’t understand random chance and the fact that marines whole deal is toughness.

[@FrozenPyro06]

Does nick get payed overtime for playing and recording at the same time? Lol

[@milky939]

Godd to see Daves Deffy back on the field, they trash the paint but still impressive for a first model

[@MissZencefil]

It's been years since I played 40k but still seeing people underestimating Rhinos and them tanking a shitton of shots... Mmmh makes the Ruinous Powers proud.

[@cromwellthesynth]

I see PoT got early access to DeadlyPrintStudios new Astra Militarum fx lineup~

[@lazyvipurr4698]

Wish you guys would play some games of 3rd or 4th Edition.

[@blackenedsilversoul]

So I just have one question: who, exactly, put 'Try-Again' Bragg behind the controls of that Vanquisher? More seriously, good game to both players!

[@shanehudson3995]

Not a fair comparison. Bragg always hit is follow up shots.

[@latch9781]

When the "very bad mini" is far better than anything you will ever paint

[@bobbay1562]

Spacemarine Steve would approve of Nicks rolls

[@headphonedog3180]

How do the obliterators have mark of tzeentch? (40:35)

[@CaptianTaylor]

as a guard player, this was hard to watch why cant you just roll 3s!!??

[@Knightmare-Requiem]

Y'know... kind of ironic. If I didn't know any better, I'd say Nick has become too affected by Chaos to where his rolls against them are just.. ehh. I mean, I don't know. First Tchyo, and now Dave.