Black Mirror - 4x3 Crocodile - Group Reaction

[@hosni2]

The title "crocodile" also I think means crocidile tears, it looks like she has regret but keeps on killing.

[@bcorr5457]

maybe youtube is the place I can jerk off I’ve seen other people theorize that it’s referring to the body they dumped 15 years ago (metaphorically) resurfacing and biting her in the ass, like a crocodile would to its prey

[@hosni2]

BCorr Yeah, but I think it has multiple meanings.

[@bcorr5457]

maybe youtube is the place I can jerk off likely

[@gigimc]

yeah, it’s clever how they applied the crocodile analogy in so many ways... 1) Mia’s tears; 2) the way she camouflaged herself in so many instances as she became more & more predatory (even inadvertently) and that hug she gave dude to prevent him from leaving the hotel room was like when they capture an unsuspecting something; 3) crocodiles are able to recall memories thru smells as well (limbic brains) the method of the tech used by the insurance company

[@farfromsensibletv]

I drew some connections to the title of the opening episode of the first series of Fargo (a series with arguably similar ideas minus technology) named The Crocodile's Dillema (a paradox also known as the liar paradox)

[@ObiWanKhenobi]

The episode is called "CROCODILE", because crocodiles cry when killing their prey. It was believed that the crocodile cried with pity over the corpse of its prey while eating it. Although this action is a natural characteristic of a reptile glands. That's why the saying "crocodile tears". Greetings from Yucatan, Mexico. :)

[@fl0wbee]

Or.. Maybe it's because the bitch was cold blooded

[@yusufdw123]

Lmao someone said the woman’s name is Felon Degeneres

[@TheSuperNats]

Yusuf LOL

[@conspire941]

😂😂😂😂😂😂Oh My God!!!!

[@engrRGV]

First Meth Damon and now this lol

[@greentaigo2552]

@@engrRGV Meth Damon was made up by the Breaking Bad community

[@Blep303]

Rolls Grant Vasquez lol that dude was more like Fat Damon though

[@GodsonSublime]

Whats lost in the discussion was how that same technology actually FUELED the murders. Not to be pessimistic but in Crocodile, the crimes evolved with the solutions.

[@syabri2342]

The technology didn't fueled the murder, the fear of punishment did, and it's already a thing. :c For exemple, let's say I want to kill a guy. I murder him, but then someone witness the murder ! So I end up killing that person too. There, same scenario. Would you say then "Prison fueled the murders, if it wasn't for the police, he wouldn't have murdered that second person" ?

[@GodsonSublime]

I apologize. I am just seeing your response. You would be absolutely correct in regard that the technology did not fuel the initial two murders. Your hypothetical falls flat because the context in which we are currently speaking - there were no (physical) witnesses after her second manslaughter/accident - until the insurance viewed her memories which started an onslaught. The fear of punishment applies regardless. The features of this EP were more about the degrees of separation/correlation and this new invasive tracking as shown in how the insurance woman found her with benevolent intent and her turning it around to actually find and murder the husband (malevolent). The story makes it obvious that she wouldn't have murdered the husband or the child if she were unaware of that technology. She wouldn't even have murdered the insurance woman if that mental imaging assignment was optional or nonexistent. We understand that the fault isn't with the tech. The fault remains completely with her but it would be dishonest to ignore how the tech aided her on her final spiral down ("fueled" may be a bit of a overstatement - but it played its part). Specifically speaking - how she utilized tech with such malicious intent. She frankly turned to hunting for a victim.

[@krashd]

@@syabri2342 The technology clearly did fuel the murders, a family lost their lives because alive their memories were useful as evidence.

[@manco828]

Except you can't put the genie back in the bottle. What we need is a more humane society that doesn't produce killers.

[@damets]

this one was dark AF

[@MystikalScopeProductions]

theNYRfan that’s hillcoat for you

[@boop9430]

theNYRfan I know, I got upset when she killed the baby

[@KainErrow]

Please note the part played by Andrea Riseborough as Mia, was originally a guy. Riseborough came in, read for something else, but she liked the arc of the main character and asked if they'd redo it as a woman for her, and the creator & producers were like, "Yeah, that sounds awesome."

[@nodiggity4283]

so original plan was to have another white male be the villain. but changed later? of course

[@Cbricklyne]

She was going to play the part of the insurance investigator lady (played by the East Indian woman), and yes the villain was going to be a man (possibly the guy who played her companion at the beginning.)

[@TheUKisThere]

@@nodiggity4283 Another white male, implying what?

[@enriquesanchez9016]

@@TheUKisThere We know what he's implying unfortunately. Another white victimhood BS.

[@ShyGreenBean]

@@TheUKisThereyeah that’s a weird reaction from them considering white men are the most common perpetrators of crime. Especially murder

[@Lobos222]

If you pay close attention. There is a scene where someone says a man had a green jacket on, but gets corrected by the insurance representative. In turn the memory changes while she watches to reflect that the jacket was actually yellow... which was true in this case, but it still shows that in the setting of this episode memories could be altered via manipulation.

[@HamzaK0098]

This is by far the darkest episode in s4.

[@tiffaniej.9834]

I think the reason the technology worked on the guinea pig versus how Shazia worked it was because she works for an insurance copy who just wanted to solve claims so they might not have the advanced technology vs the police who are higher ranked and need it to solve more problems and might have the fully functioning product. My theory though

[@dreadnaught09]

Tiffanie J. You're right i think she even explained it to the guy hit by the pizza truck.

[@ElTigreDelNorte_]

Makes sense. Public vs Private vs Govt tech. I wonder if she knowingly didn’t kill the guinea pig bc she figured the tech wasn’t there or if she simply didn’t notice it. That whole situation probably had her shot up with adrenaline etc. Either way she got convicted 👍🏽 but also crazy how she went from good person to bad real quick. Stuck between a rock and a jail cell now

[@chunkyMunky329]

Nah I doubt this theory, and I'll tell you why. An insurance company can lose millions or billions just from one bad claim alone. Therefore, the insurance company's investors would fire any CEO who didn't invest in the very best technology available. You gotta remember that this shit is going to be used in a court case that could cause the company to win or lose massive sums of money.

[@philament8681]

Maybe they tested the technology on guinea pigs?

[@ElTigreDelNorte_]

Amaravi Wouldn’t doubt insurance companies using the best tech. Maybe regulatory? They have access to certain levels of that tech but not the ‘latest’ versions. Playing along for shits and gigs probably more likely scenario is that she didn’t notice the guinea pig or didn’t think it through enough. Murderers are caught bc they botch something even though some try and ‘think it through’

[@dlweiss]

Yeah, if not for the technology, Mia would only have committed ONE murder (her ex) rather than four. It was purely her fear of having her memories and the memories of the other people used against her.

[@JennyofOldStones713]

dlweiss Well...that is correct, but the regardless the presence of the technology she still killed 3 additional people, a family of 3...which includes a baby. At the end of the day she still made the decision to kill those people. She has to live with the consequences now. She can’t put blame on anyone or anything and take responsibility for her actions.

[@dlweiss]

Oh, absolutely. Black Mirror is never just "technology is bad" so much as "technology can bring out the worst parts of humanity without intending to." I simply meant that while Mia is already a bad person and a murderer, it was that specific tech that drove her to become a borderline serial killer in like 48 hours.

[@JennyofOldStones713]

dlweiss ah okay! My bad, I misunderstood. Yes you are exactly right!

[@syabri2342]

This argument is nonsense. By the same logic, one could say "If the police wasn't so efficient, murderers wouldn't have to kill any potential witnesses", as if it's the police's fault that murderers may kill more people than intended just to make sure they get away with it.

[@TheCheekPunisher]

I feel like part of her was thinking that she’s already killed 1 person to protect herself, so it would be pointless not to continue killing people that could potentially ruin her life, it’s pretty realistic, most people would kill to save themselves or in her case save her life with her family, put yourself in her shoes, you’ve gotta kill someone to save your current life with your family which is perfect, people don’t like to admit it but most of us would kill, it’s nothing unnatural.

[@GSpivv]

Something I feel like the crew missed was that she wouldn't have killed the husband/family if not for the technology existing in the first place. The memory technology was responsible both for the death of the baby and the capture of the person who murdered it.

[@KainErrow]

I'd argue that, as essentially the memory technology is just an extension of any forensic technology. We can't really blame fiber analysis when someone decides to burn down an apartment building to cover up their stolen rug operation (obviously that's an extreme reach of logic there, but I think you might get what I'm going for).

[@KainErrow]

That, but also about how technology can change human society and open up flaws that maybe already existed but we didn't really understand. Think about 'Hated in the Nation' and how social media gives rise to new levels of harassment: that part of our character has always been there, but having over a million faceless individuals hate your guts via Tweet hasn't been an option until the last 15 - 20 years or so. Black Mirror is really all about the scientific axiom of how Man's Reach often exceeds his* Grasp. Just because we can do something, or use something, doesn't mean we have the maturity or understanding to do so wisely. #Feminism

[@JennyofOldStones713]

I get what you’re saying, but no one or nothing is responsible for killing those people other than Mia herself. She can’t blame her decisions on technology. She has t take responsibility for her actions.

[@mannylugz5872]

That's a lot of crap. We are all responsible for our actions. You cannot use technology to cover up your crime or a tragedy just because you want to escape responsibility. This episode is actually an allegory to what is already happening today in road accidents. People running away when they run over or hit another car. If that happens would you come back and kill the survivors, or steal the cctv cam, so they wont link you to the incident? Mia is a sociopathic murderer, pure and simple.

[@syabri2342]

This argument is nonsense. By the same logic, one could say "If the police wasn't so efficient, murderers wouldn't have to kill any potential witnesses", as if it's the police's fault that murderers may kill more people than intended just to make sure they get away with it.

[@tommywm24]

This episode was so brutally dark.

[@HiThereLindsey]

I was surprised that I liked this episode. One wrong decision years ago came back to haunt her and ruined her life.

[@nonesummit]

I rank my fave BM episodes according to how dark and disturbing its theme is and this is my number 1...it stayed with me for a while. It's like Nosedive on steroids.

[@djsichuan3303]

Same. Some pll arent built for black mirrors darkness. Its meant to disturb you on a visceral and thought provoking level.

[@Jeremy-jm3fe]

@@nonesummit That's an extremely shallow and edgy way to rate something.

[@gerbenvanessen]

Best thing I saw yesterday was krombopulous Micheal with subtitles "Oh Boy! here i go killing again" with the head of the architect lady instead of his head.

[@matth_rod]

I love watching your videos because I watch sitting on my couch, and it makes me feel like I'm with them :)

[@khazms]

I'm sitting on my toilet.

[@matth_rod]

KingZ that counts too 😁

[@jeanbutinfrench]

good to know im not the only one, fã br dos normies haha

[@Mrken2786]

When Suraj drops a Lost reference and everybody’s too tipsy to notice lol.. 4...8...15...16...23...42...lol 😂🍺

[@suncore598]

I wondered what that was about.

[@dani010203stor]

i didn't get it at that moment, thanks! xD

[@hilalkaratas1602]

ikr everyone's like "just start" and i'm like "umm..homeboy is dropping some lost reference to brighten our day bitches shut up" sorry i love lost

[@Mrken2786]

Hilal Karataş me too although the middle seasons lagged and the finale was frustrating....😕😒🤦🏾‍♂️

[@hilalkaratas1602]

kenneth phillips yeah let's not mention that nskdkskdmss

[@SirForwyn]

If anyone is interested in what the Arab lady was saying before she got murdered, it was : "انا لله وانا اليه راجعون", which means "We belong to Allah, and to him we shall return". It's what Muslims say when they hear about someone's death. So she basically was mourning her own death before it even happened.

[@zombiemom7378]

This was my favorite episode of the season. Super dark and I love that she was ultimately taken down by a guinea pig - something she never even considered. Loved it.

[@TheEndermanNestGPage]

To be honest this was my favourite episode of the season (3rd best in the entire show -next to White bear and San Junipero), its extreme dark tone and unfilteredness I thought made the episode truly great.

[@Polarus83]

I think part of the message is the loss of privacy can drive people to do more extreme actions

[@djsichuan3303]

I think its funny how many sensitive ppl after it ends are all 'oh no, i didnt like that...sad sad'. While for me i almost get a psycological thriller/story writing/great-cause-its-so-wrong-also-complex, braingasm.. And im like i loved this episode. Of course i think what happened was awful, its supposed to disturb you. If it didnt, it didnt do its job

[@noelcrenshaw7969]

Tbh, I was on Mia's team until she killed the insurance lady. The first couple of deaths could have easily been called accidents but everything after that was just greedy and the baby was a no no.

[@KainErrow]

Yeah, I didn't even care about the insurance lady, it was the baby that made me think, "and now the line's been crossed." Still, even then, I wanted her to get away with it, just because it was The System vs. the Individual. One way or another, at some point, we will all be chipped with bar-codes on our arms or the backs of our necks. Big Brother loves fiction, it gives them the best guidebooks available.

[@anonymes2884]

Gangrel Aussie The pursuit of _any_ murderer is an example of "The System vs the Individual" (because the police are part of "The System"). She's hardly some freedom fighter within an oppressive regime, she's just a common murderer killing innocent people because she's selfish and wants to keep what she has.

[@KainErrow]

Anon Ymes Meh.

[@anonymes2884]

You make a compelling argument ;-).

[@KainErrow]

Anon Ymes LOL, that is what I was going for, :D Seriously, I never said it was a rational reponse, just that it was my response. I also happened to have been rooting for Darth Vader in every single film he's been in (note that DV was never in the Prequels because there is no such thing).

[@dooovde]

I think they missed the point that she only killed the investigator, the husband and the baby BECAUSE of the technology that existed. Technology is therefore not necessarily a good thing in this situation.

[@jamasunda]

I remember watching it for the first time going “... this looks like Iceland”. Then I looked it up and it was filmed in Iceland, lol. I’d recognise my country anywhere 😂

[@philglass295]

Not trying to be an internet smart guy here, but the point of the episode is that the invasive technology escalated the murders because Mia was trapped by it and felt there was no turning back. The technology basically turned her psychologically into a cornered animal with no way out but the kill. Yes I know shes a crazy murderer with or without the tech, so don't wast your time there.

[@Ivanlois383]

This one was hard to get through

[@Jeremy-jm3fe]

Yeah, because it was a shitty episode.

[@krakxv2851]

@@Jeremy-jm3fe are u crazy?

[@sneekz07]

I didn't realise until the end of the episode that I was holding my breath for most of it.

[@Crick1952]

I really love Crocodile and Metalhead. Along with "Shut Up and Dance" they are both the most suspenseful episodes of Black Mirror to date for me.

[@khazms]

Crocodile was the worst one..

[@gatewaytotheheart2652]

@@khazms Welcome to the world of opinions, dumbass.

[@Jeremy-jm3fe]

Crocodile and Metalhead are the two worst episodes of the series. Remarkable how you precisely chose my least favorite ones.

[@Atem_in_the_streets]

This is like that mad tv episode when some guy kills someone, and People keep walking into the house, so he has to kill each and every one of them. He even kills a bird because the bird sees and starts mocking him

[@dancingtoelectro]

I don't think this technology was actually required by law, i assumed that was the insurance women lying so that she could hurry up and close the case to get her bonus. She lies quite a lot in this episode, also telling one of the other people that the police dont use that technology anymore, but as we see at the end they clearly do.

[@xxdavecz3811]

she could tell truth, it's not for court trials evidence but in insurance it's helpful and you must cooperate. Police use that technology but it's not evidence

[@kw9387]

dancingtoelectro good point

[@savagedragon79]

She meant that the police don't use it exclusively anymore. It's become more accepted.

[@savagedragon79]

dancingtoelectro also even if it wasn't more accepted the insurance companies could lobby the government to make it standard. We already are forced to buy car insurance.

[@noahadams5694]

dancingtoelectro yeah that’s a violation of multiple rights and freedoms including rights against self incrimination.

[@JaquaySmith1]

The self driving pizza car is actually a thing being made look it up. they are saying next year like early or late 2019 or 2020. Tec this stuff is a actually being made

[@RaymanW]

omgg 😲 what is this world becoming lolllll

[@carudelstrudel6269]

Welp, it's 2020, and I can certainly confirm there are yet to be self-driving pizza vans ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@JaquaySmith1]

Carudel Strudel it actually is made 😂 just has not been released publicly yet. Nuru is working on a self driving delivery service to be released in California. spot the robot constitution dog or whatever it’s called on the others hand is made and also Available you can see unboxings for it. It looks almost like the dogs used in another black mirror episode!

[@ctakitimu]

As much as I love watching you guys react, the quiet-loud-quiet-loud is wrecking my ears!

[@escoburrito]

I thought this episode was criminally underrated

[@LadyVenomWay]

"Free yourself, stay woke!" yas Chris. LOL Suraj that skit would be awesome. I did like this episode over all but felt it was provbs the weakest on in this season. My fave has to be black museum. Cant wait for your reactions to that!

[@jardelrodrigues4]

Metalhead is the weakest fpr me

[@LadyVenomWay]

Cool. I loved Metalhead

[@douglas2938]

+LadyVenom Way There are dozens of us! It's actually sad but oh well...

[@KainErrow]

Black Museum was probably the closest this season had to a 'Hated in the Nation' episode, which I consider still to be the one that captures what Black Mirror is about, thematically. I honestly still liked this one and the USS Callister most myself, just because they were on opposite ends of the spectrum (of my emotional reacttion) but both were still really good. It took me a LOOONG time to recognize the guy that played the male lead in Black Museum, even though he was one of my favorite secondary characters in Penny Dreadful.

[@tiffaniej.9834]

Gangrel Aussie FINALLY someone who loves Hated in the Nation like myself. Not sure why so many people dislike it. Also Black Museum is like White Christmas to me with the the 3 stories connecting to the final outcome.

[@uberhabib]

There is a reason most people have walls instead of a full glass house (besides it being expensive af). We have curtains for a reason. This episode is great, as it highlight the positive side of this tech, but it also shows the negative parts (Like the scene with the doctor being concerned he will be judged and his privacy is being invaded)

[@dwheroes5485]

It doesn't make sense to me that the memory thing works on the guinea pig since with all the other people the lady has to coax them into forming a reputable memory with scents and songs

[@xxdavecz3811]

memory thing works only on animals because they are not subjective and false, you see what they saw. On people it's not real because memories are sometimes different than reality, that's why it's not evidence

[@philament8681]

Maybe they tested the technology on guinea pigs?

[@sala8763]

I think that the insurance one was not as good as the higher grade police ones used for the investigation,therefore it probably worked better on the guinea pig. Also a lot of devices and objects are tested on animals first

[@Francis-Kanja]

YASSSS!! Makerta is here. But ... like Suraj tried to hint at ... why was it called "Crocodile"?? ..Well....crocodile brains are apparently almost entirely limbic, which means they comprise the systems that house memories and the functions that support those memories, like smell and emotion....Almost like the Croc does not have to "think" to do certain things.

[@decaomoral]

It's not the first time technology has been used a against the "bad guy". Remember White Bear?

[@Cbear11205]

André Gonçalves'' and Shut up and Dance

[@mannylugz5872]

My opinion is that Mia is a criminal. A murderer who have no remorse killing many people, including a baby, just to cover up her crime. On the other hand...the technology used to scan memory is I think is also evil as it violates a person's right for his/her privacy and rights.

[@tiredoffools8929]

Mia is a criminal. FACT.

[@Jeremy-jm3fe]

LMAO "Mia brutally murdered a bunch of people, and in my opinion, she might be a criminal"

[@anungikwe7258]

She could just be a fierce mama crocodile protecting her child???. One more murder and she would have gotten away with it - the guinea pig. You know some viewers would be more upset at the death of an animal than of human beings. ( That's dark, I know)

[@Horrorlover1978]

lol this one flew right over all of your heads

[@UatuOmega]

I thought your 'gator/crocodile joke was worthy of a pat on the back, too, Suraj. :)

[@OnionTaylorJoy]

UatuOmega you want Pat to sit on his back like yoda?🤔

[@UatuOmega]

out loud laugh, I do

[@gigimc]

First of all, yeayy for filming in Iceland! the gorgeous bareness saved the meh story. So as far as the story goes, I see it as the initial death damaged both of them in different ways. She repressed everything, and it exploded eventually, turning into her into a predator... and for him, he was eaten up by it for the rest of his life, turning him into prey. The crocodile references & comparisons were interesting... Really loved Shazia, the actress was great! her eyes were so tender & thoughtful... the whole time I wanted her to break away somehow! lol (they also should’ve set up her car’s wonky starter better; if they’d done just one more occurrence of her struggling with it, the non-starting issue would have been well-established at Mia’s house & not seem so cliché... ah well)

[@kenziebailey9142]

go to 1:09 to truly feel the force of a 5th wheel

[@TheSuperNats]

Kenzie Tysl lol!

[@haleylafferty9870]

This episode was constructed so well

[@TrinidadBatman]

@ 22:28 “ google I never told you that, what the fuck” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂

[@markmckeown87]

I loved this one

[@markmckeown87]

I think a lot of people think the same, where I thought Hand the DJ (and San Juniper) is trash.

[@markmckeown87]

100%

[@khazms]

What's wrong with you bro LOL

[@markmckeown87]

loll i know, probably says something about me =D

[@SuperThisen]

This episode of Black Mirror is the one that has got me most fucked up, it was so fucking dark... I normally don´t make faces or feel disgust when i watch horror/murder stuff because i know it´s not real and stuff like that. But this episode mentally fucked with my brain lmao XD

[@ImAviex]

Her choosing to take off her disguise mid home invasion is something I still can't get over.

[@politure]

Chris is my fuckin' boy he's got a sharp head on his shoulders. Other people often come up with subjective and emotionally flawed arguments, props to Chris.

[@jasonbarnes6898]

I agree with the b rating but as soon as she decided to help weight the guy down with rock she was an accessory to murder. If the guy who wrote the letter got caught and they check his memories she would come up. I think they called this episode croc because of the whole chasing her tale

[@mattyj4645]

This was one of my favourite episodes...Also justice was served to the detective thinking it was okay to access people's minds...how dare her...it ended up working against her.

[@frieza2235]

Justice how? It was perfectly legal. People could have refused if they wanted to. They'll have no issue with the police if they have nothing to hide. btw thy are not just flicking through all your memories as they wish. It's legal

[@JNB0723]

@@frieza2235 Not once you admit you have knowledge of a crime or accident. Then it becomes mandatory.

[@UuzerName]

One of my favorite episodes of the entire series.

[@xrey83]

It's not just about technology. It touches on a lot of concepts such as how lying just forces you to lie some more to cover you tracks. In this case - murdering to cover your tracks.

[@carudelstrudel6269]

"We could've been anything we wanted to be, yes that decision was ours." I really like the ending!! I feel like the song the kids were singing was there to only add onto the monstrosity of her crimes, as she chose to take lives for her own gain, when it wasn't even her choice ┐(´д｀)┌ Crocodile tears, indeed 😔

[@pjamese3]

Good discussion, but Chris is getting a little out there. The criminal courts system is screwed. Defense liars (I mean lawyers) play too many games with the legal system. They get search warrants thrown out for typos. They ask yes or no questions for circumstances that require deeper answers. Once someone was on trial, if there was a way to get clear memories from a person, that should be used to prove the case. For example, say technology existed on par with that in The Entire History of You (or just a refined memory extractor. If someone was on trial for murder and they were innocent and were a victim of circumstances or had been set up, then this would easily prove their innocence. Conversely, if they were guilty, it would prove their guilt beyond ANY doubt. It would also provide the circumstances behind the murder (as opposed to "My client wasn't there." "My client was there but left when the victim was still alive." "My client acted in self-defense." "My client killed the victim due to " Imagine that. No more game playing with the law and the system (because we can't really call it the justice system) would finally become about truth instead of who can manipulate the law better.

[@Schmidteren]

The more you have, the harder you will fight not to loose it. Just.. Let... Go.

[@nodiggity4283]

Navi is going straight fascism. As Ben Franklin said "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

[@matasuki]

"They'll turn your bitch ass into a cookie" subscribed LMAO love it!

[@edwardgeorge5584]

I've been sooooo looking forward for them to see this...

[@mordirit8727]

Insurance Lady needed a warrant to use the memory probe on her, but that's why she let her in on the first place: she didn't want the police to be anywhere near her. She preferred to take the chance of being able to beat the probe than to take the chance of having the police take notice of her at all.

[@BernicePanders]

5:30 - After this aired, there was an article about I think Pizza Hut having nearly the same self-driving pizza station...

[@chasewatson5733]

I think the point of this episode is that they use the technology to find criminals but it’s the technology that’s creating criminals.

[@JennyofOldStones713]

How so?

[@JennyofOldStones713]

Mia was already a criminal well before this technology

[@khazms]

Harleen Quinzel She was not a criminal, she was an accomplice to a crime. But she had to kill the guy who felt guilty because they would have surely found him with technology. And she knew that if the authorities found him, they would check his memory and his memory shows her being an accomplish, therefore she had to kill him. It helps find criminals and is like.. 100% evidence or proof but it also creates criminals due to their fear of being caught, so they go above and beyond like this. It started as an accident, but her fear of being caught for sure due to the technology made her into a serial killer.

[@charleneraymond4036]

I'd give this an A- I definitely prefer it over ArkAngel but not as much as USS Callister. Probably forth overall on my list for this season.

[@KainErrow]

14:24 - YOU are *so* cute, Marketa. She was absolutely thinking about how she needed to get the kid to CPS. LMAO!

[@faureamour]

This isn't the first time we see the technology working against someone who commits a crime, Chris: Shut Up and Dance, White Bear, White Christmas and even to an extent, USS Callister.

[@Newcents88]

Lol well I guess I forgot about all of those

[@robertspain3742]

But with technology, as soon as something is made to look at our memories, someone is going to make something to mask the memories. Police radar guns came out then the radar detectors came out. IP tracking came and IP masking shortly thereafter. The woman just didn't have time to find the memory scrambler.

[@ChrisDogan]

From one Chris to another.. we the kings of corny!! 😂😂✊✊✊✊

[@Newcents88]

Long may we reign

[@yobamayobama1049]

Can’t wait for you guys to react to the next episode by far my favourite of the season.

[@borynegron]

"Yaaaaaaaaah...it's fucked up, don't do it" LOL

[@babyjki444]

i think she messed with her car when she asked to go to the bathroom before she started the memory recovery process.

[@linasmith9834]

Nope she practiced her lines like in the beginning. Shazias car had trouble starting way before there was even a scene.

[@vampdan]

C-. "She's gonna kill the dude and the baby." Chris still spoiling stuff ;) lol Chris is right on the surveillance state.

[@KainErrow]

1:31 - Eh, it's British Prison, its not the US, you'll be fine. (Watch 'Starred Up,' people!)

[@brivaelkl3736]

I'm proud of my boy Suraj gator joke was lit, i can't believe i was LIVING

[@jomo999]

And I thought Black Mirror couldn't get any darker, Jesus.

[@ralphie9955]

16:00 "We're doing fine" are you sure? #arrestthekillersofbreonnataylor !!

[@DeShawnMcDonald]

Lol ikr this was the first time I've watched this channel and the white girl (idk her name) isn't the one that made me cringe the most

[@mattyj4645]

I think the detective was to blame for invading people's privacy

[@rebeccacoffey454]

I'm with Mark McKeown...I prefer the darker episodes of "Dark Mirror"....Just for example "Shut Up and Dance" is my favorite ever. I think you can get happy endings and feel good stuff (like Junipero and DJ) anywhere. The dark stuff Mirror does is what makes it unique and worth watching. About the title "Crocodile"...for me, the title could also allude to the crocodile in Peter Pan. Hook hears the swallowed alarm clock, pursuing him always....signifying that his end is always near and his past will eventually be his undoing.

[@jesterssketchbook]

Chang: Why? how does Marketta say cement? Marketta: I say it like everyone else Chang: come onnnn Marketta: sem-ENT Chang: ughh, you're the worst jk guys love you all

[@HamzaK0098]

21:44 you guys should watch Psycho-Pass

[@HamzaK0098]

ipjorr not really

[@khazms]

Hell yeah.

[@blackflagsnroses6013]

This may have been the darkest episode yet, and that’s scary! This seems to be the least like episode and I get it. It’s too depressing and just makes you feel really uncomfortable. Trying to analyze it is interesting though.

[@KainErrow]

Yah, the Metalhead episode didn't feel as empty or lonely as this, because you know Mia is carrying some extremely heavy shit with her that she can't share with anyone else all the way, and so she's alone in a crowd.

[@KainErrow]

@ 0:41 - "... trying to take us all back to the woods where we need to be. Free yo'self." - Lol, Chris, so we should expect 'The Forest' on one of the live-streams later than, yah?

[@rastiga9196]

My Brother gotta a ticket from a police plane 12 years ago coming back from Cali. I wouldn't be surprised if they use drones now at all.

[@bluezebra4090]

I had my headphones volume fully way up and when I started up the video I nearly had a bloody heart attack lol

[@Bj-re4wt]

Investi-Gator. Crocodile. You should be a rapper because you have BARS son haha

[@kayyarainey1399]

I don't think anyone was as emotional as I was I literally had to take a break from watching this shut cuz I was crying so bad that she killed that baby man the whole family at that. It really broke my heart

[@dreadnaught09]

I come for the reactions but i stay for the discussions.

[@stephenandrews1119]

The government wouldn't have to make such technology mandatory for it to become near-compulsory. Here's how it'd work: "Oh you want car insurance. Well just tick this box agreeing to mind scans. You don't want to? Well I'm afraid our non-scan policy is 10 times more expensive." It would be the same for health insurance and jobs working with children, and tons of other stuff. Pretty soon if you haven't consented you might as well go and live in the wilderness because you can't do anything.

[@Greenlion781]

Omg guys, the point of the episode was that the technology caused her to become this way. If there never was this mind reading tech, she and her boyfriend would've just gone to the grave w/ the bicyclist accident and nobody else needed to get hurt.

[@JennyofOldStones713]

Greenlion781 Mia is responsible for her own actions. This story is not about the technology overtaking us, but how we chose to utilize it and cope with it. When her and her boyfriend hit and killed that person, this particular technology was not around yet. Does the fact that they chose not to tell the cops make this in incident any different from her other killings? What about when she murdered her ex? She didn’t know about the technology then either. Sorry, but you can’t go and kill 3 additional people, who are a family...one of which a baby btw, and just blame it on technology. She killed them because she made the choice to. She could have just turned herself in long before all this.

[@nonesummit]

she didn't murder her ex...it appeared more like an accident, they both fell and he hit his head on the floor. the other deaths were premeditated murders in order to clean her tracks.

[@anonymes2884]

He fell and hit his head sure. And then she leans on his windpipe and kills him. The cyclist was an accident, everyone after that is murder.

[@JennyofOldStones713]

nonesummit she did murder her ex. If you watch it again, he doesn’t fall, she pushes him to the ground. Then she makes sure he’s dead by pressing on his windpipe as the person above just said. It wasn’t premeditated, but it was in the moment and it was murder. She had the intent to kill, and not only that, she covered it up.

[@mannylugz5872]

True. It was an accident . No matter what would happen, they should have faced the reality that a human being died and they have a part in it although they didnt meant it. Its the right thing to do. Instead, she followed a much darker path and turned evil.

[@lobeho9289]

y'all need to jump on the end of the f***ing world train before the hype dies down!

[@lucasdolding6924]

4 8 15 16 23 42 EXECUTE

[@khazms]

DAMN IT, JOHN.

[@lucasdolding6924]

I wish you had believed me...

[@mrloverman2.0]

You guys push the button, im outta here. Lol

[@SpectreSpook]

I shot water out of my nose at “the 25th digit of pi”

[@johnhouse9983]

i had a friend of mine stand up too quick felt dizzy fell backwards and hit his head on a stone fire place and died over night... he was eighteen.

[@LittleBrighty]

One of the points is that increasing innovations in technology and surveillance are supposedly really good at catching murderers, or it’s perhaps bad because it pushes people who are capable of murder into murdering each other more and more to avoid punishment. But is Mia less of a monster for having red eyes filled with tears every time she murders?

[@mandycat8]

Mia didn’t drop the ex boyfriend in cement, this seems to take place in Iceland and they use geothermal venting for heat. She dropped him in a geothermal shaft.

[@alluremonroe6850]

My mind is blown cause for the longest I was trying to figure out why the episode was called crocodile

[@baronvg]

Andrea Riseborough looks so thin and malnourished here. Just a few years earlier, she was looking healthy and normal in Oblivion.

[@drlee2]

This one felt way more personal than most others, less commentary on society. Just psycho-analyzing a single character's motivations. But if we're talking episodes up to this point, I don't think ALL of them are way up there. Only half the episodes from Season 3 are classics to me, namely 3x03, 3x04, and 3x06. But I think this episode is better than 3x01 and 3x02.

[@shortstuff780]

LMAO Chris talking about drone going crazy, just wait till metalhead

[@Newcents88]

Ohh yeah ... foreshadowing

[@shortstuff780]

Newcents88 haha hope I didn't spoil it, I figured y'all probably have seen the whole season by this point.

[@jrod1591]

I’m the first minute of this video, I could only think, “yikes.”

[@SolidSnake240]

Psycho Pass for your next anime reaction? It's pretty dark with great writing and characters and there's alot to discuss after each episode which would make for some good videos.

[@khazms]

Hopefully people vote for that on Patreon.