Black Sabbath interview - The Ivors 2015

Tony Iommi, Geezer Butler and Bill Ward chat about starting Black Sabbath when flower power was still alive and kicking, and share their views on the current state of British rock at The Ivors 2015.
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[@jimjim7008]

Bill seems like an innocent genuine guy.

[@juanpaolomonosolegit]

Geezer still pranking Bill. Good times

[@taylorfusion]

Great to see Bill Ward back with his band again.

[@TheTamtam76]

+Jeff Taylor he aint back....just there to get award..

[@taylorfusion]

+maddog76 good to see him with the guys nonetheless. Warms me heart

[@TheTamtam76]

Jeff Taylor i hear that..when ozzy was fired in 79 he wanted to sue them for even using the sabbath name..said it would be lying to the fans,ripping them off....yetbill ward sits out,and its still black sabbath..go figure

[@zargmatt]

+maddog76 Vinnie Appice and Cozy Powell were solid, man. Eternal Idol with Eric Singer on drums is also a damn good listen, even if it don't give you the sabby feelsies. Lineup changes happen and surprisingly bad and good things can come of it. But all that aside, Bill Ward should be given what he is asking for. I will wear a Bill Sabbath shirt for life haha.

[@jeffhagerman7810]

maddog76 I was there in those days bought heaven and hell album didn't even read it .........what dio but good tho it was called hard rock in the early years ..rock on

[@johnburke568]

the dynamic is clearly evident here. Ward is the one with heart and cares. Not saying they all don't but he is exploding with realness.

[@ianknapper2199]

Bill ward what a lovely man..heart felt respect for the man love and peace ✌

[@fuckamericanidiot]

Bill is no poet, Geezer says the least and yet wrote most of the lyrics

[@solfly6]

Sabbath was a massive shot in the arm to me and a complete revelation at the age of nine. I love these guys.

[@davesaenz3732]

I play guitar because of Tony Iommi 🎸

[@dr.doolittle5617]

Bill Ward is my favorite, but i love hearing Geezer talk. The way he drags his words and lifts the last word of the sentence.

[@1Deep43VA]

God, I’ve always loved Bill Wards playing. Especially on Fairies Wear Boots

[@thetype85]

Tony: “Bill , can I light you on fire?” Bill: “no, not just yet”! **real conversation in the studio!**

[@riodopoeta]

I hope to see them PLAYING together again ! Bill , today , feeling being part of Black Sabbath is an inspiration for generations ...

[@stephensmith8101]

These fellas are the greatest

[@andywitch666]

Yes! Go Bill,Go! We need your swing and thunder!

[@jjvladimir6070]

I would love to see these 3 get back in the studio. I don't even care who they get for vocals. Just make that Sabbath magic happen one more time!!!

[@jbmakinmoney1010]

I met bill in 97 at a signing and he was very down-to-earth he just had a heart attack and one of the things that he needed to go on tour was to have a nutritionalist / Chef with him in order to keep him on a diet to help his health. - looks like he lost a lot of weight and he's looking fresh now... Very nice man ... fantastic drummer !

[@markdemoreuille4451]

J B Makin Money as good as Bonham or anyone else!

[@theoriginalchefboyoboy6025]

@@markdemoreuille4451 IMO probably the most musical drummer I'ver ever heard. Every lick/note he plays seems to be there for a specific complementary reason - it just fits in well with whatever Tony or Geezer are playing. Ferocious and aggressive when the mood calls for it, subtle yet necessary at the other moments. Severely underrated in the rock world. His drumming actually tells a story within the song, not just thrashing or keeping time.

[@beatlesrgear]

Bill is worth his weight in gold! A truly great rock drummer (and not a bad jazz drummer, as well).

[@analarissa8525]

Tony, Geezer, Bill, forever Sabbath 😃😎😚

[@piyushsopory5817]

These guys are so polished. Who would believe they are black sabbath

[@qazzell]

As soon as tony starts talking bill's head turns very quickly, cause ozzy said everyone was afraid of him and you can see respect is still there

[@MeatWisdom]

Here's hoping they work things out with Bill and get him on board for the final album, though I'm not exactly confident it will happen. However, Bill appearing publicly with Tony and Geezer seems like a good first step, even though Bill has always stated he hasn't had any problems with them, just Ozzy and whoever negotiates the contracts. Speaking of Ozzy, I have no idea why he'd be so willing to throw away a near 50 year friendship rather than admit he was wrong about Bill's playing fitness. Also, regarding the whole erasing Bill from the band's history thing, he recently stated in an interview that the powers that be twisted his words; from that he only be removed from promotions for a series of gigs Sabbath was already booked for before his contract was fully negotiated, into removing him from pretty much everything. You can about imagine why Accountable Beasts is so dark sounding.

[@kennatiousc]

hope they get on with the new album soon before new problems arise.

[@jaapvander3787]

I saw Black Sabbath in Ahoy Rotterdam. these 3 gentlemen are top musicians. The best of the best.

[@Methodius93]

Yeah, when they mention Bill's status in the band & whatnot, you can tell that they all three know that the problem lies with Ozzy & Sharon. Bill, Tony & Geezer seem on the same page and agree among themselves about the issue. There's no negativity or disagreements among the three of them.

[@DenniWintyr]

Right... which is why Bill did exactly the same thing with the Heaven & Hell reunion with Dio, with the same "unsignable contract" reasons given. You gonna blame that one on Ozzy & Sharon as well?

[@lunarmist428]

@@DenniWintyr Carmine Appice would be the proper drummer for that though,,eh ?

[@yzzo4people]

BLACK SABBATH-FOREVER.....

[@Purpleskyshorizon]

Cut the shit, Bill, and rejoin the band!

[@SAHBfan]

+A New Horizon Cut the shit, Sabbath and get Bill back in the band...

[@Purpleskyshorizon]

SAHBfan Either way works for me.

[@MasterSumai]

A New Horizon, not all Bill's shit there my friend. it's sharon, ozzy, tony, and geezer too.

[@beerhill3730]

A New Horizon not Bill who's being unreasonable

[@MasterSumai]

Beer Hill , i just read an interview posted on Facebook from Tony that said , quote from tony himself " I don't know why bill's not in the fucking band & i regret it's because of leaving it to our (the band's) management team." So , finally we have some truth from tony about the shit with Bill . i say tony & geezer & ozzy are responsible partially because they didn't speak the fuck up about it then. NO BALLS! I mean they pay the bills and supposed to be in charge, not a bunch of money hungry cocksuckers on a shit management team. what a huge let down !

[@lilmike2710]

Bill Ward was/is the more intellectual member of Black Sabbath... The other blokes will always raz on him and take the piss every time he says something smart. But what he says is meaningful and %100 spot on... He is the only member that has fully acknowledged their responsibility for the heavy netal genre. The rest of them jusy blow it off. Saying things like "we considered and still do consider it hard rock".. Butler acknowledges the genre and praises it as brilliant. Billl ward is one of, if not the, most iconic drummer in heavy metal history. Not enough has been said about him.

[@midnightadmirer]

Well said! 100% agree!

[@riggermorpus]

These guys seem like distinguished gentlemen here. It’s weird to think they put out some iconic savage heavy rock tunes for the ages way back when.

[@analarissa8525]

Tony, Geezer, Bill forever! ✌😎❤❤❤❤❤😀😀😀😀

[@user-pv6oz9vx9w]

...как приятно видеть живых родных дядек!!! Россия, 🇷🇺; Роман из Саратова🎩🎧🎸🎻🥁 Longlife Black Sabbath!

[@garethlipyeart6520]

bless u bill jolly nice bloke one off aston"s finest.

[@carlwalsh7944]

So funny how the other members constantly goof on Bill--the lightning rod of the group. All in good fun though. My favorite was when Bill said Black Sabbath is a "phenomena" and Geezer went "That's modest!" winding Bill even up more--which makes them all laugh even more.

[@01REDEYEDDEVIL]

2:09 fuckin geezer, hahahaha THIS IS FUCKIN GREAT NEWS!!!!! CHEERS GUYS!!!!

[@middian9218]

+01REDEYEDDEVIL i dont get it what did he do haha

[@willemsterk5992]

Sadly, it's now 12 jan. 2021 and no other new album with Bill. I feel so sad about this end of Black Sabbath. Hope I'm wrong.

[@daviclar867]

yeah it's over. Bills Facebook pops up rarely anymore with updates of new music never to be heard.

[@sharpvonl201]

i think bill honestly doesn't have ability to play with them anymore. He hasn't really kept up with drumming

[@gerryorangefan6150]

@@sharpvonl201 Bill just needs to release his Day of errors albums he has completed.

[@elinino5275]

It's Feb 2022, and yes, it's over. Bill poor health, ozzy poor health. Tony and geezer are ok but covid lock downs have kept them apart. Tony is in the UK and geez in LA. Tony Martin has a new album out through. It's phenomenal. Go check it out

[@ErWo75]

Bill is a very well spoken and honest person. He’s definitely more optimistic about rock (and metal) than grumpy ass Gene Simmons.

[@bchuntfish]

@2:09 Geezer always the joker hahahahaha,,,,,

[@andreass2301]

The way Tony Iommi touches Bill Ward's arm at .38 is very endearing.

[@JADM6700]

This captured interview looked uncomfortable for Tony & Geezer, especially Butler who looks like he wants to be elsewhere and not answer any questions on Bill's absence from participating in Sabbath's last album and Touring.

[@ErWo75]

The story will never feel complete unless they do one more album with Bill on drums.

[@willemsterk5992]

You are very right Ric, I have that same incomplete feeling. What to do about it?

[@ErWo75]

@@willemsterk5992 As long as they are all still alive, there’s a chance. But it seems unlikely… They don’t even need to tour. Just record it!

[@willemsterk5992]

@@ErWo75 Yes, Bill could play digital drums, with todays technology it can sound very good. They've always been into experimenting, so why not?

[@askepios111]

Bill actually looks a lot thinner. Like he's trying to take care of himself. His weight at least. I know that was a big problem with the last record, Ozzy spoke about how he was too big and not in good shape.

[@jamesthacoolcat9926]

He definitely looks in shape to me

[@wataboutya9310]

Geezer cracks me up!

[@TheOldBoy101]

I would dig an all instrumental doom album without Ozzy !

[@smitty31560]

Listen to Bill's new album, he is kicking just as much butt as his ex band mates. Take that Ozzy, or should I say Sharon???

[@wardka]

+Derek Smith There's a new Bill Ward album? Well - I guess so or you wouldn't have said that. His old ones are hard to find.

[@smitty31560]

+Alienart Yeah man its called accountable beast. Its very different but does have a lot of b.s. traits. Bill wrote every song on it and besides playing drums he also plays keyboards and sings.

[@cameronnikolajew7584]

+Alienart download them via torrents than they won't be hard to find. I have them all. The new one that came out recently is amazing and Bill sounds as he did in the 70's.

[@Rocker-tz2qk]

What's the name of his new album??

[@smitty31560]

Jason Mildward Accountable Beast's

[@stephencook4694]

Their will only ever be one Black Sabbath : Ozzy , Bill, Tony and Geezer!

[@jon-francis9289]

I know what happened with Ozzy but I never did hear or understand the basis of the rift between Bill and the rest. I'd love to know the truth of it all. For me Black Sabbath will always be the original 4 and if Bill ain't there it's just not Sabbath.

[@sejotosant8300]

true indeed..

[@beerhill3730]

Jon - Francis... The last tour bill ward was replaced because he wanted to be paid the same amount as the other members.... Not a big deal but I believe it was Sharon Osborne and tonight I omits wife who are acting as management offers bill ward. A lot less than the others...... How fuckin sad...... I have lost a bucket full of respect for the remaining members.. He wasozzys bast mate :( . . Poor bill.

[@christopherrankin4769]

You can see the hostility between the 3, regardless of their interview here.

[@Vingul]

Hostility is laying it on well thick.

[@shillian4770]

It seems tense forsure

[@neilbolger2679]

Was great to see Bill there in interview , but where Ozzy and why was Bill allowed so little to say. Just curious that's all.

[@customedge1]

god, its so hard to see them standing there and yet not on stage together right now. this is so tough. I want to cry thinking about Sabbath ending it without Bill

[@cast390]

+JOE FAQURSELF That my be true but I have a feeling tonys gonna put heaven and hell back together with Ripper Ownes up front.

[@customedge1]

cast390 why do you feel that? or is it hopeful wishing lol

[@cast390]

Both

[@simonecristiny947]

Falem o que quiser, discordem ou não,!!! Ozzy Osbourne sempre foi o mais lindo e carismático de todos!!!!!💕💕💕💕💕

[@GestapoPussyRanch]

Wish they had all been on the last album and tour.

[@samvimes2821]

Why does it come back? Um... because it's awesome?

[@user-ys2nv4ni9e]

Sucks they didn't have Bill on the album. If they did I might listen to it.

[@jasoncornell1481]

big bad Bill!!

[@TooSkinnyKenny]

i'll bet he thought the band would stop without him and he sure was mistaken

[@TweedSuit]

Geezer and Tony are a bit uneasy talking about the 'last' album. But you can tell they're itching to prank Bill. When they get together they just revert to their teenage selves. It's sad they'll never be able to do a proper album together while Sharon is around.

[@scottblanton4988]

Where's Ozzy?

[@fetteshice]

I don't know if I need another Black Sabbath record; I'm afraid it would not match Sabotage and the things they have done before that. But I am happy to hear how cleary Bill Ward speaks. Compare that with Ozzy's muttering.

[@jarrettthomas4865]

That’s not the point of music. To match a song you created 50 years ago.

[@alexisherwood1465]

2:06

[@fernandovelez9224]

Monstruos!!!!!

[@cykodelia5964]

Sharon is Sabbath's Yoko

[@metafis2490]

Ozzy would be dead if it wasn;t for Sharon(His own words). Also, she was behind his very successful solo career.

[@dno4794]

CY KODELIA lot a use that woman was. John Lennon would a been better off without that hanger on. That’s my opinion. Sharon had nothing to do with Sabbaths early life. Her father was their manager. DNO..

[@joenorris8220]

@@metafis2490 Doesn't justify getting control of Black Sabbath, especially the naming rights.

[@SINC0MENTARI0S]

There were lined up and talking like at a funeral.

[@abahgus]

an electric funeral per say?

[@Trashfished]

Whose the Singer??

[@bull716]

Sharon the modern day yoko Ono

[@neilpye6089]

At least yoko could sing kzbin.info/www/bejne/hn2UoWR7abd_ZpI

[@carloslima6705]

what did geezer say at the end?

[@AnthonyHeadway]

It was just you there

[@shillian4770]

He said “I think that was just you though”

[@ParadoxapocalypSatan]

What happened ????????????????

[@johnhenao2909]

tony and old geezer guilt all over your faces

[@Dismemberizerify]

+John Henao why?

[@jonesy2111]

Unfortunately the truth is not always palatable....Lol

[@davesaenz3732]

"Go write some proper music and come back". Without Sabbath there wouldn't be any metal today. 🎸

[@LadyFairChildVideo]

I remember the big lawsuits that Ozzy and Co. had against Tony Iommi regarding the use of the Sabbath Imagery and such on merchandise, and how it should be split 4 ways, 4 founders bla bla bla, and then Ozzy did that to Bill Ward. lol. and why the fuck, was Ozzy so eager to put Black Sabbath to rest, yet him still tour solo? Makes absolutely no sense. unless there was behind the scenes agreement to settle the lawsuit of one final tour, album etc. either way, they're great musicians, but phonies as people. i've lost all respect for them.

[@LadyFairChildVideo]

@Deplorable Cat ozzy is not stupid. he was behind it and even commented about it. he's deplorable.

[@fourthlayer]

Without Black Sabbath there would be no full throttle V8 power chords! Imagine living without such a roaring sound! We'd be stuck with Elvis

[@whotendsthefire7234]

+fourthlayer yes Sabbath is great hard rock for sure,as far as Elvis goes no one can hold a candle to him.listen to jailhouse rock.thatis the beginning of hard rock.

[@TjaVideos]

+james hajjar no, The Kinks.

[@timprescott4634]

I despise these “Without (insert band)” comments...

[@warrenwhite8155]

you're not good enough to wipe the dirt off ELVIS grave........

[@Balbanegra86]

@@whotendsthefire7234 hard rock? 🤣🤣🤣

[@twothousand8414]

Well, if Ozzy can't work with them again, then I'd love to see them re-unite with Ian Gillan for Born Again again!! \m/

[@thestig7603]

Black Sabbath retired in 2017

[@jamesthacoolcat9926]

Bill needs to be on the final tour... Or sabbath will be incomplete

[@davegosselin9327]

why is it the opinion. that bill not being on album or the last tour. ozzy& sharons fault? ozzy stated he wanted nothing more than for bill and all the guys to end it together - and its been said in interviews by tony. & ozzy. they only were hearing from bills lawyers not bill about contract agreements. and. the terms and demands were too much. the other 3 guys all had equal agreements and were hoping bill would join them the same. problem was bills lawyers screwed it up by being too demanding - not a damn thing to do with sharon or ozzy. sharon manages only ozzy. not bill or tony or geezer. point fingers to bills lawyers for this fall out. im tired of hearing people place blame based on bias opinions and NOT FACTS.. thats how people make others think its true. then turns people against wrong parties. senselessly. DONT BE AN AIRHEAD following whatever you think happened- actually research the facts i love black sabbath and ozzy solo too. and i was upset also but it wasnt ozzy or sharon or tony or geezer that stopped bill it was bills greedy ass lawyers drawing up unreasonable contract.!! FACT JACK

[@jesgarcia9556]

Who knows they know maybe they screwed bill ozzy said they were afraid they wd have to have an extra drummer that bill couldn't cut anymore hell ozzy couldn't cut it we all know if we went to a concert n bs was there first time n ozzy sang the whole concert .ost of us wd walk out i wd but i wd stay to watch ozzy out of respect . Maybe Bill could have cut all the show's but i still love the band n only want the best i wd rather have them around not playing than have them play a few concerts n die r something

[@rustyrelicsfarm2406]

Looking at Bill he looks so frail in this interview. There was no way he could have done the last two tours.

[@briancdn]

What did Geezer say at 2:29? Can any of your Brits understand that lol.

[@comx427]

+briancdn I'm not a Brit but Geezer said 'we used to do that" referring to raping and pillaging lol.

[@briancdn]

+comx427 I meant the last thing that he said at the end of the video. A friend told me that he said "That's just you though" to Bill.

[@naschylobo]

He said 'That was just you though'

[@coryreeves2645]

100 years of metal = ME LOT. NEANDERTHALER

[@robertcam7090]

Ozzy Arden! kkkkk

[@markmirche7760]

It’s a shame but if have no shame then it means nothing. It’s always the drummer that misses out on money and glory.

[@RockaFellaa]

Oh Bill, the acknowledged one but never the represented one. We know.

[@pascalecnto68]

Seriously though, as much as i love that band - Bill is the only articulate one in the group. Easily the best interview of the group.

[@joshchamberlain1474]

Bill is fucking scary as shit!!!

[@flintrock8433]

I actually hate alot of the New metal. Fast doesnt mean better

[@joenorris8220]

And Cookie Monster sings with nearly every band.

[@jpruda65]

I would like to see Glenn Danzig become the new vocalist for Black Sabbath. I think with his voice, it would put the sound back in to Sabbath like in the early 70's.

[@thewhatorwhy]

Geezer was being nasty to Bill under the guise of friendly humour.

[@waynebradley75]

StartabandRoxy agreed

[@beatlesrgear]

From what I've read of Black Sabbath, Ozzy, Tony & Geezer were always pranking him, haranguing him, and just basically, being disrespectful and demeaning to him. I think their "just having a laugh" went way too far many times, and Bill is hurt by this, even tho he would never come out and tell us.

[@ColtraneTaylor]

@@beatlesrgear Oh I agree. The words cunhts, minus the 'h' would describe all three of them.

[@adamsmith13real]

a little awkward

[@AllCelebzNElitenNeckMaskz]

Slow jaks an ball rubs the illuminati way

[@renehildebrand9322]

Coca Cola

[@husq48]

Never happened, the band with the most drama! 🤣

[@Every-picture-tells-a-story]

Well, it’s a pleasure not to see Ozzy that’s for sure.

[@jessew1133]

Does anyone know what the conditions Bill alluded to as what it would take to get him in the fold again? I know this quite a few years ago. Just curious to what those conditions were. Cheers 🍻🤘🎸

[@stokely7354]

bill ward looks so evil

[@Lost-xl6im]

Sabbath is just a cover band without Bill

[@abahgus]

No Bill Ward, No Sabbath.

[@plasticweapon]

that's bullshit, but it's best with the original lineup.

[@turnthepaigebrooklyn2951]

No....without Bill it’s mere drums played without the thunder and ball lightening

[@joenorris8220]

Wrong.

[@ricklivingston966]

i think new metal is garbage

[@Samsgarden]

Just retire. Old people rest on their laurels and receive stupid awards from people who only give a shit after the fact. Seriously - rock is a young person's game and the way you guys switch from Dio to Ozzy and this drummer or that, is a bit irreverent in my opinion.

[@Eckylis]

Samsgarden Rock is a game these gentlemen defined for the last nearly 5 decades. They can do whatever the damn well they want to.

[@Samsgarden]

As I'm sure they will

[@metalheaddaddy79]

***** Damn right they can do what they want. Geezer still rocks the bass 50 years later. Had it not been for Sabbath,metal would a whole lot different. As far line up changes go, Ozzy was seriously fucked up towards the end of his time with Sabbath. They almost broke up. Dio saved them if you asked me. Tony and Geezer were the only originals at one time. Sabbath is the foundation of metal. This is all they know, and they still do it better than any of these newer bands

[@tolvarr]

Samsgarden Age? It's only natural that one improves on their instrument over time.

[@fetteshice]

tolvarr Except for the voice, I think. Robert Plant, Ozzy Osborne, and many others. It's basically not their fault. It's nature.

[@Rino88dotcom]

That 13 album was so crap.

[@brianorakpohit]

Rino88 I disagree. I love Sabbath especially with Bill Ward. But Sabbath couldnt have done better with 13 in my opinion. Its better than Technical Ecstacy!

[@dominicaaaaa5547]

i thought it was surprisingly good tbh - not up there with their classic albums but certainly not an embarrassment! ..a 6.5/10 from me ;)

[@bernabefernandeztouceda7188]

@@dominicaaaaa5547 totally agree with the rating and all

[@ratdogjams350]

Better than Never say die and technical ecstasy

[@Rino88dotcom]

@@ratdogjams350 Technical ecstasy was great, give it another chance; many great songs on it. Never say die, also had two great songs on it. However the 13 album did not have any good songs on it. The only good thing about it was marketing.