Black Sabbath - To Do or Die (Live in Sheffield 21/05/1986)

En vivo en el "City Hall" Sheffield, UK 21.05.86
El bootleg también es conocido como To Do Or Die.
1. Supertzar
2. The Mob Rules
3. Children Of The Sea
4. War Pigs
5. Danger Zone
6. Heart Like a Wheel
7. Symptom Of The Universe
8. Sweet Leaf
9. Zero The Hero/Sphinx (The Guardian)
10. Seventh Star
11. Member Introduction
12. Turn To Stone
13. Drum Solo
14. Die Young
15. Black Sabbath
16. Bass Solo
17. N.I.B
18. Neon Knights
19. Heaven and Hell
20. Guitar Solo
21. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath/Heaven and Hell continued
22. Children Of The Grave
23. Supernaut
24. Paranoid
Tony Iommi: Guitar
Ray Gillen: Vocals
Eric Singer: Drums
Dave Spitz: Bass
Geoff Nicholls: Keyboards

[@afanofblacksabbath269]

0:00:04 Supertzar 0:03:01 Mob Rules 0:06:11 Children of the Sea 0:12:07 War Pigs 0:20:09 Danger Zone 0:24:52 Heart Like a Wheel 0:31:00 Symptom of the Universe 0:33:24 Sweet Leaf 0:35:48 Zero the Hero (exc.) 0:36:55 Sphinx (The Guardian) 0:38:13 Seventh Star 0:43:26 Introductions 0:44:18 Turn to Stone 0:46:41 Drum solo 0:49:49 Die Young 0:54:18 Black Sabbath intro 0:55:30 Black Sabbath 1:02:57 Bass solo 1:05:29 N.I.B. (shortened) 1:07:06 Neon Knights 1:12:05 Heaven and Hell 1:17:23 Guitar Solo 1:18:45 Jazzy Guitar Solo 1:20:00 Guitar riffing/ soloing 3 1:21:03 SBS (exc.) 1:21:35 back to Heaven and Hell 1:21:51 middle section of Sign of the Southern Cross over the Heaven and Hell bassline. 1:22:25 Dialogue with audience 1:25:03 back to H&H 1:29:48 Children of the Grave 1:34:44 Supernaut (exc.) 1:35:00 Paranoid

[@vaneipontes3279]

Thx for posting Setlist 🎵🎼🎶🎤🎸😎👊

[@hkwaldgeist2058]

Toll! Danke schön! 👌

[@PuritanDuaneLinn]

That's one heck of a setlist

[@Coxinha3308]

Ray Gillen was a fabulous singer.

[@edward-highendsolutions]

great great voice

[@tinosghost]

What a show Gillen could sing 🤘🏼

[@user-cruton]

I saw this tour. WASP opened up. Great show.

[@tc68bird]

This is so awesome! Wish I could've seen this version of the band!

[@PuritanDuaneLinn]

Heart Like A Wheel is arguably the finest display of guitar prowess that Iommi ever did.

[@mitchsilberberg9574]

At about 28:35 and ending 28:46 you can hear a snippet of Deeep Purple's "Wring That Neck". DP traded WTN for the rights to Its a Beauitiful Day's song /riff "Bombay Calling" which DP used to write "Child in Time". That was unexpected.

[@onceaknight850]

YESS - Finally someone else sees it!

[@aidanlynn]

the seventh star tour surely has to be one of the best sabbath setlists ever?

[@juniorpontes4620]

Mr. Geoffrey James Nicholls 🎹😭🙏 Mr. Raymond Arthur Gillen 🎤😭🙏 Simply I Miss You Guys 😭🙏😭🙏

[@amosamaralmarao7846]

@@juniorpontes4620 Amados e esquecidos!

[@GachaMetal]

I actually wish Sabbath would release a full live album with Ray on vox.

[@brianarnoldhickam540]

Live at the Hammersmith Odeon (2nd June 1986) is disc 2 from "Seventh Star" (2010 deluxe edition)

[@vaneipontes3279]

Geoffrey James Nicholls r.i.p🎼🎹😎👊 Great Singer "Ray Gillen" r.i.p🎤😎👊

[@lionelalias4561]

Gillen is perfect.

[@panzervalkyrie9299]

Massive fan of Ray Gillen since 89 Badlands. Have to this day an autographed and hand written note on postcard regarding what badlands was doing recording wise he sent me in 90 .RIP you absolute glorious bastard !!

[@Glory7RedemptionPrincess]

♥️♥️♥️

[@kevinhanson2525]

Listening to this really makes me wish I could have seen this tour, Gillen is incredible and the band is cooking, Tony is rippin, unique setlist.

[@mrd7141]

I saw it in philadelphia. Ray was the best.

[@journeyintothebible]

Awesome and disappointing at the same time. They did Zero the Hero and Symptom of the Universe! Only not in their entirety. Ray was a great singer who could have had a great career. So glad to hear this audio document of a rare moment in the Black Sabbath saga.

[@jordansimon3623]

Fabulous singer !

[@henryheinzjunker8807]

WONDERFUL !!!

[@vbassone]

the ONLY singer they ever had that sounded great on ALL the other sabbath vocalists' material.... Gillen, FANTASTIC.

[@mitjarupel2357]

Truth.

[@robertstanfordcam2649]

Indeed. He sang like an angel...

[@husq48]

Yup, he made them all his own!

[@chuckfriebe843]

Nailed it

[@williamthompson5504]

He may be my favorite Sabbath singer behind Dio. I grew up on Ozzy solo albums and Dio Black Sabbath albums. Heaven and Hell, The Mob Rules and Live Evil was my introduction to the band.

[@leandrodesouzaandregtoni8946]

O Sabbath sempre contou com músicos fantásticos! Descanse em Paz Ray Gillen.

[@Filmetal7]

Menos o Ozzy 🤣

[@leandrodesouzaandregtoni8946]

@@Filmetal7 que maldade, rsrsrsrs. O Ozzy é a voz do Sabbath mas tecnicamente todos os outros que passaram são superiores.

[@SilverTounge85]

I have the first gig Ray did w. Sabbath. They played 'No Stranger To Love' in the setlist too that night, before dropping it.

[@EdeRW1706]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/bmO6dnuiYqqof7s

[@donvitovic7500]

Excelente voz de Ray Gillen. Buen material lml

[@leonardovizinhani219]

Pena que tiraram a voz dele do eternal idol

[@user-cruton]

Wow i would've loved to hear Ray sing Zero The Hero

[@Mr01081960]

Ray Gillen great singer no doubt

[@user-by4ds8fh2z]

RAY GILLEN FOREVER!✌️✌️✌️💯💀💀💀🎸👍

[@michaelmorrissey9239]

Thank you for sharing this love it !

[@oswaldovallenilla5649]

amazing

[@scottoz7891]

This is fantastic ❤❤...

[@mariuszpolanski2345]

GREAT AND MEGA RARE BOOTLEG-MEGA THANKS FOR PUBLISHING IT BROTHER!!!:-);-):-)

[@juniorpontes4620]

Mr. Raymond Arthur Gillen 🎤😭🙏 Mr. Geoffrey James Nicholls 🎹😭🙏

[@billjannusch]

Awesome..

[@Gatoblack88]

Pensé que los conocía todos. Que buena colección.

[@victormartins5292]

Que vocalista fantástico Ray

[@nicowallas2735]

Putamadre lo que sonaban con Ray Gillen, una lástima la perdida de ese gran talento que era el

[@gregwright9869]

For all the shit iommi was going through during this period his playing is on fire here.

[@billjannusch]

Killer bootleg.

[@alcidesvenancio8389]

Gostaria de ter ouvido Zero the Hero inteira, com o Ray Gillen. Certeza que seria um estrondo!

[@OSMAR611]

CONCORDO COM VOCÊ

[@fernandosaraiva6121]

Eu também, sacanagem do Iommi kkkk

[@EdeRW1706]

Uma pena o Ray Gillen não ter gravado o Eternal Idol e feito a turnê. Ele merecia essa oportunidade.

[@thatspacecadetteglow]

All we have of gillen and eternal idol is the original album recording....which I'm glad has resurfaced in recent years

[@cesarpp665]

Gravou, mas não foi lançado na época, Tony Martim regravou

[@LoboGrisTerror]

1:02:57 That solo... Is INSANE

[@juniorpontes4620]

Mr. Geoffrey James Nicholls Rest In Peace 🎹😭🙏 Mr. Raymond Arthur Gillen Rest In Peace 🎤😭🙏 Simply I Miss You Guys 🎤🎹🎵🎼🎶🎼🎶🎼😭🙏

[@vbassone]

RAY GILLEN man!!!!!!

[@michaelmohrle1773]

This sounds great, did not know Ray was from North New Jersey !!

[@ponybloke]

i was at this show.

[@oswaldovallenilla5649]

He was a very very good singer. With him sabbath sound fantastic and diferent

[@311superfly]

he got the lyrics right. that's a plus.

[@SPGRAMPA1]

In a line of work where people come & go..Tha Show must go on!!Thats all that matters..Toni really shines on this one..The whole band dies the keys,The bass!!The drummer bangs it out and those Vox are dynamite..Reminds me of a drug fueled night!!On the peir underva early'90s full noon.The ocean shattering crashng against the rocks!!

[@AerikVon]

🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

[@nestornunez6181]

O show vale mais pela sua raridade do que pela sua qualidade. Ainda que não tenha sido registrado de forma oficial. Mas também importante por contar uma parte mais obscura da história da banda.

[@image30p]

Wow this is amazing! Thanks for sharing! Kind of crazy that it's one OG and a bunch of guns for hire. Gillen kills it on this. They all kill it. Wish I could have seen this lineup. I wish the bass and drums had been mixed in a lot louder though. 1:18:50 What is going on here? Never heard this side of Iommi before.

[@archie6962]

Listen to Live at last and the track wicked world. You hear a similar guitar solo.

[@vaneipontes3824]

Mr. Geoffrey James Nicholls Rip... Mr. Raymond Arthur Gillen Rip........

[@vbassone]

killen Gillen !!!

[@randallbrooks5787]

Every damn bootleg I have (or have heard) cuts part of "Heaven and Hell" for room, and I finally got to listen to this all the way through last night, and well, go straight to the 1:22:01 mark and enjoy!

[@randallbrooks5787]

Yes, the song was done in its entirety during the "Cross Purposes" tour, and is available on "Cross Purposes Live" (a CD/VHS package that came out in 1994, and is available on DVD, plus you can find it on KZbin). And I *think* they also did it the following year during the "Forbidden" tour.

[@SilverTounge85]

@@randallbrooks5787 They did it during some of the reunion tours w. Ozzy too, but in a lower key.

[@randallbrooks5787]

​@@SilverTounge85 No, they did not do "Heaven and Hell" during any tours with Ozzy.

[@SilverTounge85]

@@randallbrooks5787 Not 'Heaven and Hell' but I replied to the post about if they ever did a full version of 'Sabbath Bloody Sabbath'. They did it w. Tony Martin in 1994 and a few times in 1995, and then again during some of the Ozzy-reunion years, but it a lower key due to Ozzy's voice not being what it used to. Kind of like 'Supernaut'. They never played the full thing apart from in 1974 I think, w a drum solo in the middle. They did it w. Ian Gillan in 1983, but it was a shortened version. Tony also used to play the riff during the 'Seventh Star' tour, before 'Paranoid'. Either 'Supernaut' or the 'Sabbath Bloody Sabbath' riff. Oh... I almost forgot they did it in full w. Rob Halford in 1992 at the first of the two Costa Mesa gigs.

[@randallbrooks5787]

@@SilverTounge85 Oh, sorry, lol, didn't see that was the first reply and forgot it was there. Cheers! :)

[@marcelojavierlovera6130]

don't say anything about personality or about what sabbath singers did on stage, they are all different but theres a fact his voice is amazing!! he could do all songs with no problem adding his style, remember he has to fill big shoes (gillan-dio-hughes-ozzy). fantastic but he left and as a composer nothing has been relevant so i doubt if his songwriting skills would have worked. tony martin survived because he is a great composer.

[@michaelkeudel8770]

There's a version of Eternol Idol recorded by Gillen 1st, Martin basically signs it almost exactly the same as Ray did. And you might want to listen to the 3 Badlands albums he also was involved in writing and singing on along with Eric Singer and Jake E Lee.

[@williamthompson5504]

Somebody please rip this concert onto CD for please! I’m a hard copy guy and Ray kills Heaven & Hell

[@thefonzkiss]

It’s not 1985 anymore dude, you can download the audio and burn it yourself. Though god knows why you would bother, CD has been a dead format for a decade.

[@user-ts7sn8dg1p]

ray on seventh star is second to none...

[@judaspino499]

Ray Gillen still rules the Sabbath

[@mertgulcurgs]

Killer riff: Danger Zone

[@patriquevidal6810]

Será que existe algum show, com Ray Gillen, gravado com boa qualidade?

[@scottroberts3011]

Hammersmith Odeon June 2nd, 1986 is with having.

[@user-if4to3jb3i]

Лучше никак, чем так

[@abdulmasseh1431]

Lion King of hard Rock

[@robertandrewhale]

I caught this tour, Crawley as I recall, It’s all we had at the time, it was a long way from the original band but it was alright at the time. But no Geezer Butler... unforgivable really.

[@coreysolt8721]

The sound quality on this is excellent. Was this recorded for TV or something, or off the board perhaps?

[@williamthompson5504]

Soundboard recording. I want a hard copy BAD!

[@thefonzkiss]

@@williamthompson5504 no way is this soundboard. It’s a good audience recording.

[@nicotesla6094]

Who is Ozzy? Gillen and Martin best singers of SABBATH

[@ponybloke]

Dumbest comment ever.

[@LoboGrisTerror]

Gillen and Dio

[@joeylummox7330]

Dio>Tony Martin>Ozzy>Glenn Hughes>Ian Gillan

[@ADDISON857]

@@LoboGrisTerrorGillen-Dio-Martin😹

[@LoboGrisTerror]

@@ADDISON857 in My opinión: Dio, Ray Gillen, Gleen Huges, Tony Martin, Ian Gillan, Ozzy Osbourne

[@vbassone]

NOT ONLY DID RAY GILLEN SING THE DIO MATERIAL JUST ABOUT AS GOOD AS DIO HIMSELF, HE DID A WAYYYYYY BETTER JOB ON THE OZZY MATERIAL THAN DIO DID..... THIS GUY WAS GREAT!!!!!

[@sds4life17]

He is a great singer but he aint no Ronnie James Dio by a long shot!

[@vbassone]

@@sds4life17 according to YOU. Gillen was definitely in Dio's league as a vocalist, no doubt. FACT.....

[@sds4life17]

@@vbassone According to me?...No, According to Heavy Metal History and all Metal FANS around the world! Ronnie was establish in the genre with Rainbow, Sabbath and later "Dio" Thats a Fact that shouldn't even be disputed! Ray does not even come close and you know it. Im out and peace out✌

[@vbassone]

@@sds4life17 I mean as a CAPABLE VOCALIST he WAS in the same league. Got it now??? Not in terms of being famous, in terms of TALENT. If he would have lived longer Ray Gillen WOULD have been regarded as one of the elite singers in hard rock and heavy metal. FACTS....... Get it???

[@vbassone]

@@sds4life17 Gillen was probably BETTER than Dio.

[@Night-fr6mv]

1:02:57

[@supermanbri83]

Wow this is AMAZING !! If I give you my email can u send me a copy?

[@Nicoo-jr5ml]

Hola, por supesto, no hay problema. Saludos. (Hi, of course, no problem)

[@Nicoo-jr5ml]

Necesito que me des tu correo así te lo envío.Saludos. (I need you to give me your mail so I send it to you).

[@Nicoo-jr5ml]

Hola, no. No tengo Facebook. ¿tendré problemas con KZbin si te dejo el link aquí? Porque no acostumbro a hacer eso. (Hi no. I do not have a Facebook account Will I have problems with KZbin if I leave the link here? Because I do not usually do that.)

[@yahellara4491]

oye amigo me podrias pasar una copia porfa

[@Nicoo-jr5ml]

Hola, la netbook en donde lo tenía se me arruinó. Igual si lo buscas en la página Guitars101 ahí va a estar, lo descargué allí. Saludos y disculpa la demora.

[@Nicoo-jr5ml]

Hola, ya he recuperado el material. Si no lo has descargado aún, puedes dejarme tu mail así te lo paso, también tengo otros que no los público ya que no valen la pena (apenas se reconocen las canciones debido a las mala calidad). Saludos.

[@yahellara4491]

amigo, aun puedes pasarme algunos bootlegs?

[@Nicoo-jr5ml]

Ya lo envié, espero que los disfrutes. Saludos.

[@Nicoo-jr5ml]

Si, ya recuperé los materiales. Dime cual quieres y te lo envío por mail. Recuerde pasarmelo. Saludos

[@scottrobinson9752]

Man!!! Ray was such a good fit for Sabbath. Too bad it was so short lived. He had better stage presence than Martin...although both are great singers. Had management treated him right, I think Ray would have stayed.

[@sds4life17]

I never really heard much of Ray or seen him live with Sabb, he does have an amazing voice, Martin i have seen live in a Dvd i have, for some reason i never liked him! Great voice but he was trying way to hard to be Dio in his stage mannerisms! Never really cared much for Sabbath after Dio left.

[@scottrobinson9752]

@@sds4life17 .... I always appreciated Martin's singing and even his writing abilities. But his stage presence was always a little lacking. And the weird mullet never did him any favors....even when long hair meant everything in metal. I have the Deluxe Editions of Sabbaths mid 80s stuff... Eternal Idol features a whole disc of Ray's version of the album. Which is really good. Martin came in and replaced those vocals note for note after Ray jumped ship. Also the Seventh Star Deluxe Edition has a 2nd disc of live material featuring Ray, after Glen Hughes had been let go, while they were in the midst of a tour. Ray sounds good there too...considering he had just come in as mid tour replacement. Ray was a partier though... he never seemed to be able to buckle down and solidly commit to working. He even kept partying and being sexually active after her knew he had AIDS. I always found that a bit unforgivable. No telling how many women he spread the disease to...at that time it was pretty much a death sentence.

[@sds4life17]

@@scottrobinson9752 Good analysis buddy! Martin did lack a little of stage presence and i can't really opinate on his music cause after Dio/ Sabbath Mob Rules i didnt follow Sabbath at all and dont regreat it eigther😂, Dio and other bands where my choice! Aside from Mob Rules tour i had the chance to see the Dehumanizer tour 92 and H&H aka Sabbath several occasions! About Ray, If he indeed kept having sex with women and men (cause i heard he was bi) knowing he had HIV thats Fucked up! Hopefully those people didnt get infected. Ray was another singer that i did not follow at all but new about his stint in Sabbath.

[@danpolseno9728]

Tony always plays the solo on the song black Sabbath. A little different Everytime. But it's always awesome.

[@maxmustardman298]

Goeff Tate vocal quality, insane

[@gabrielbrouwer]

It’s Ray Gillen on vocals.

[@slowemm]

Not their strongest lineup, and not a very good setlist but there are some hidden gems in this one.

[@joeylummox7330]

I disagree about the setlist. But yeah I'm definitely more of a Tony Martin guy.

[@PuritanDuaneLinn]

Tony Martin never sounded this good, live.

[@ericfrey2866]

Better than Dio

[@i_am_the_void]

yes, sir. technically, he was the best Black Sabbath singer and one of the greatest heavy-metal voices of all time.

[@luamoliveira3467]

@@i_am_the_void There were many situations in which Gillen was sounding too strident and half-toning the notes, his technique was never perfect like Dio's, watch Ronnie's performances with Black Sabbath in Ottawa 1982, in Toronto 1982 and with his solo band in Manchester in 1983, Gillen has a simpler singing style and without the variation of melodic designs and that fabulous spectrum of vocal color effects that Dio had through intonation manipulation (Dio was always a master in vocal manipulation), he never had much discipline in the high notes and many times, even though he had an excellent technique, good control of his natural treble and great harmonic resonance in his live performances, in some cases he sounded too strident or with his voice even squeezed at times on very high notes far from the open throat singing and highly controlled free notes with very open vowels in the upper fifth octave as Ronnie had, Gillen could hardly belt notes above B4 with an extremely full-bodied, balanced vibrato with the same naturalness as Dio, he did not had perfect muscular control of the vocal mechanism and just like an operatic rock voice like Ronnie had, Dio could to execute those harmonic throat distortions with perfect control and without any muscular tension and effort, Dio is considered an absolutely virtuoso singer by many singing experts that I have access to (as I have in-depth knowledge of vocal anatomy and physiology, and know many great professionals in the field and have also partly studied the vocal material of many rock/metal singers); Gillen in my opinion was one of the best rock singers but at the same time he was underrated as a singer but he was not an extremely virtuoso singer in terms of technical ability and consistency in live performances like Ronnie James Dio; Just study deeply the Anatomy of the muscular structure of the vocal mechanism of both singers and I am sure that any specialist with formal knowledge of musical theory could reach the same conclusions.

[@luamoliveira3467]

It's blasphemous to want to place Gillen above an extremely virtuoso singer with a much greater muscular command of the mechanism like Ronnie James Dio, Gillen never had discipline in the high notes and he had a certain difficulty in keeping his voice in the lower register, he has excellent technique, good control of his natural treble and a great harmonic resonance but without great melodic variation, and compared to Dio, he never had the same consistency and a range of vocal tools with a fabulous spectrum of varied vocal color effects as Ronnie, in fact Gillen and Tony Martin maintained their identities vocals but clearly followed the geography of the melodic scheme that was traced by Dio in the band, he simply influenced himself and copied part of Ronnie's standard singing style just like Tony, that is, he didn' t come close to comparing himself to Dio in times of technical virtuosity and general vocal ability.

[@FazersOnStun]

Glad he didn't stay long. Good singer but I feel he wasn't a good fit

[@drewocie5314]

Ray was an animal

[@vbassone]

he was BETTER than Tony Martin!

[@vbassone]

@Kevin Badger then again what the FUCK do you know moron.....

[@vbassone]

@Kevin Badger hey dickhead, what the FUCK do you know anyway???

[@Bcrichbitch123]

M BLG were you missing Ozzy’s voice ? Sounds like it hahaha

[@FazersOnStun]

Great singer - just bad for Sabbath. Sure some songs are good but others like Symptom of the Universe just don’t fit him at all

[@ColtraneTaylor]

I don't like Ray Gillen in Sabbath. Don't like his vocal style actually.

[@judaspino499]

No mames

[@igorzdrnja7962]

Sorry to disagree, but he was incredible. He could sing every era of Sabbath in an amazing style, with a special touch and breathing a new life into many of the songs

[@ColtraneTaylor]

I respect your appreciation for him. I like Martin alot but never did enjoy RG.

[@vbassone]

you're nuts. he might be the best singer they ever had. not an overstatement.

[@kennatiousc]

i think he did a way better job with all their songs than glenn hughes did.