Black Sun | Star Wars Legends

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[@darthjekyll3648]

Do The Exchange and Chzerka

[@lokiragnarok1881]

Czerka, The Qunari, and the Shi'ar Empire

[@farizansyahrifkia5110]

your voice bit cringe

[@arabcat2106]

Do da EDF

[@rexlumontad5644]

Darth Maul: "Do you wish Black Sun destroyed utterly?" Darth Sidious: "No. One day it might prove useful to me. For now it must be thrown into disarray so it cannot threaten our designs."

[@mattstorm360]

Later, Darth Maul used the Black Sun.

[@sheevpalpatine2128]

Brilliant quote

[@rippingtons60]

Indeed, if you've read Shadows of the Empire and/or played X-WIng Alliance you'd know Black Sun was VERY useful to Palpatine, namely the "Death Star II plans".

[@pendragon0905]

Somewhere in between the light and the darkness, the Black Sun forever shines. Such a bad-ass quote.

[@mpnuorva]

Oh sure. An organization embodying the tenets of the Dark Side is "between light and darkness".

[@pendragon0905]

@@mpnuorva The Black Sun didn't like the Sith Empire any more than either the Jedi or the Old Republic; it's just that the Black Sun is willing to temporarily set aside enmities for the sake of profit.

[@akriegguardsman]

There is no hope under the black sun......wait wrong black sun

[@therealspeedwagon1451]

It’s cold under the black sun

[@therealgaben5527]

@@therealspeedwagon1451 there is no hope under the black sun.

[@MrMario501]

Black Sun is such an interesting organization. Actually, everything about the crime aspect of the Star Wars Galaxy is always interesting and I would love if there was more of it.

[@zefft.f4010]

Perhaps we'll get it. The seeds have been sown, even though the reception has been mixed, but that's to be expected. Perhaps eventually Star Wars will finally find its footing and we'll get a golden age of Star Wars entertainment, like Star Trek in the 80's and 90's.

[@sullivanbrawn1315]

Empire at War: Forces of Corruption lets you play as a crime boss in association with the Black Sun. There's several comic books which explore the Black Sun as well. And have you played Kotor 1 or 2? They're hugely involved with criminal underworlds, and you literally get the head of the Exchange as a party member. There's plenty of stuff if you have the time :)

[@matt-vx6en]

Absolutely loved this video and have to agree I think there is a treasure trove of stories that could be created from all of those criminal syndicates.

[@LordVader1094]

We could've gotten that in Book of Boba Fett. Sadly we didn't.

[@MrMario501]

@@LordVader1094 Yeah, that was very disappointing :/

[@ISAF_Ace]

The black sun always survives where others fall: The Zann consortium, The Empire of Jabba, the shadow collective, the exchange, the corporate sector authority. But the black sun will endure where all others fall, better a black sun than no sun

[@MultiBigJC]

The Zann consortium never fell though. Zann simply went underground once he got all the boundless credits he wanted. And he let everyone destroy each other while he sat back living in luxury.

[@spartanonxy]

Issue there is the Hutts have had a criminal empire for thousands of years. They just dress it up as legit and the galaxy doesn't look closely for the simple reason of it is easier this way.

[@rexlumontad5644]

Cope and seethe Zann

[@Cyberleader19]

Don't forget the Pykes!

[@tux75]

How awesome would it be if there would be a Star Wars underworld"game where you can choose your criminal organization like the Black Sun, Hutts, Pikes Syndicate, etc

[@syppy7416]

that sounds amazing!

[@zincwing4475]

There is Empire at War forces of corruption.

[@skyboy4341]

Star wars empire at war. Forces of corruption has plenty of mods where you can play as them and contr the whole galaxy. You fight in space and groundm I'd recommend the awakening of the rebellion mod

[@omiheaddev7090]

There's a physical tabletop game coming out.

[@O49-b7d]

I'd love to play a game where I get to run stuff for the Zann Consortium. It aint enough in Empire At War.

[@zealousdoggo]

Finally the faction with the coolest emblem in star wars!

[@barricadedpurifier]

Agreed wholeheartedly

[@alfrancisbuada2591]

Me too!

[@alfrancisbuada2591]

@@michaelandreipalon359 Yeah. Oh wait. They don't exist.

[@robertortiz-wilson1588]

I got confused for a moment when you mentioned Maul taking control Black Sun but then I remembered TCW is still officially smushed into the Legends, EU Canon.

[@batalorian7997]

When did TCW become legends?

[@Vitalis94]

@@batalorian7997 it was considered T canon’ or TV canon. So just below the movies in terms of importance, but with the power to retcon anything previously present in the Legends canon. So every new TCW episode rewrote previous, estabilished canon

[@batalorian7997]

@@Vitalis94 so what parts aren't canon anymore? Ashoka is still around and Darth Maul became an underground crime boss before he died

[@plaguemaster308]

@@batalorian7997 Before Disney when the maul episodes aired, TCW was apart of a specific canon but more closer to the movies then legends. until Disney purchased. Its currently in the Disney Canon.

[@plaguemaster308]

@@michaelandreipalon359 She became a symbol for everything wrong with the Jedi and the Republic which ultimately turned her to the dark side. She had questioned the clone wars sometimes beforehand.

[@Jayjay-qe6um]

"If we had more Jedi like you working the streets. Black Sun would be a thing of the past." -- CSF Officer Stansun to an unidentified Jedi

[@MrBigCookieCrumble]

*Ok, Mr. Templin, but why do you have **_loose_** spice dust in your back pockets?* _"IDK!? EckhartsLadder packed them for me, they're not my pants, honest!"_

[@WilliamMosicki-Nystrom]

Factions I would like to see next: 1. The Pyke Syndicate | Star Wars 2. The Black Templars | Warhammer 40K 3. The Global Liberation Army | C&C: Generals 4. House Corrino | Dune 5. The United Citizens Federation | Starship Troopers

[@barricadedpurifier]

GLA are underrated.

[@alfrancisbuada2591]

@@barricadedpurifier correct

[@jayburn00]

@@barricadedpurifier think starship troopers was done, though I could be mistaken.

[@barricadedpurifier]

@@jayburn00 GLA from Command and Conquer

[@TheNamelessScholarOfficial]

Let me add something extra The Eternal Empire of Zakuul | Star Wars Legends

[@generalsmite7167]

I wish Mauls shadow collective was expanded more in the lore as the third faction of the clone wars

[@TheRevan1337]

Wouldn't make sense, and that's just clonewars/disney canon anyways.

[@generalsmite7167]

@@TheRevan1337 well I’m the clone wars show maul wanted to gain influence over neutral world from mandolore and he could use the crime families to act from the shadows

[@TheRevan1337]

@@generalsmite7167 I am aware, i just don't think that clonewars is relevant to a legends video.

[@twojacksandanace3847]

It was... read the books.

[@TheRevan1337]

@@twojacksandanace3847 It really isn't, and never has been. Just because legends authors try to roll with it retroactively and work clonewars stuff into their work simply because it has more screen presence, it doesn't change the fact that the lore was changed unnecessarily by the clone wars in various areas. It is actually in theory a good thing that the clone wars is now considered to be canon because it removes it from relevance to legends.

[@mindshuffler3332]

Fun fact!: If you ever need to recruit the Black Sun for your nefarious purposes, the best way to do so is to decapitate all of the leaders' at once! Maul can attest to this method.

[@VideoGamesAndTheWorld]

Shadows of the Empire. Brings back memories playing this game.

[@Bread-nx9fo]

Prince Xizor is eminently a underrated legends character

[@grandadmiralzaarin4962]

Legends never die

[@kenguyii9108]

*The Black Sun: The Galactic Mafia of Star Wars.*

[@Casey-jn3ib]

Star Wars Legends > Star Wars Canon

[@emman799]

I like both

[@whateverwhatever4476]

Both are good and they exist in canon too

[@rexlumontad5644]

"If we had more Jedi like you working the streets, Black Sun would be a thing of the past." - CSF Officer Stansun to the Jedi Knight

[@ixwin]

I love the presentation of Black Sun as a middle ground between light and dark, rather than the usual 'wretched scum and villainy' angle. It's not something I would have thought to do, but now I consider it in context (Especially having recently read Star Wars: Scoundrels) it does make quite a bit of sense.

[@jon6309]

This has actually become one of my favorite factions in the Star Wars Galaxy! Second would be the InterGalactic Banking Clan!

[@duncanharrell5009]

Honestly Disney Wars should expand upon the criminal and corporate worlds of Star Wars. Was always cool as hell having corporate and criminal fiefdoms in the Outer Rim with branches everywhere.

[@jon6309]

@@duncanharrell5009 I would say the InterGalactic Banking Clan was actually one of the most powerful entities in the Galaxy! In Legends I read that Munnulist and Mygeeto (planets ruled by the Banking Clan) was so wealthy in mineral deposits that it was able to back the Galactic Credits as well as the money used in civilizations found in satellite galaxies like Fire Fists which was beyond the main Galaxy! They were the only separatist corporation that wasn’t punished under the Empire or seized and nationalized when compared to the Trade Federation since the effects of doing so would have have been consequences for the Empire on a a huge economic level. Even after the fall of the Empire they remained under the Imperial Remnant but still backed the currency of the growing New Republic! This angered the Imperial Remnant but there was nothing they could do about it either and allowed it even though they disagreed with it!

[@MrMarinus18]

But I think the idea they put forward in legends of their origin makes total sense with their name. That they started off as a vigilante group and were open about that. It's kind of what Black Sun has always been. Very moderate criminals. Moderation is how you get big, being too shy means you will get overwhelmed by competition but being too bold and brazen will get you crushed. You want to be bold enough that others don't mess with you but also low down enough that galactic governments won't seriously try to crush you.

[@ovrair6340]

whenever someone mentions this faction I just think of the S.S (one of the s.s symbols was called the black sun)

[@Brwigames]

Funny

[@Mondy667]

@@Brwigames WHOLESOME SABLIN WHOLESOME SABLIN TNO SPEER DENGIST TNO SPEER DENGIST !!!?!?!?!?!?

[@Mondy667]

But yeah this syndicate reminded me if the SS too, they have similarities to but it is superficial

[@chrissonofpear1384]

Rumored to be tied to some significant occult secret as well, of a dark sun, and maybe tied to electric universe, ah, conspiracy claims. Or so some at least say.

[@akriegguardsman]

Laughs in ordensstat burgundy

[@akriegguardsman]

There is no hope under the black sun

[@taffingtonboathouse5754]

Nice

[@Not-Ap]

Better a Black Sun then no Sun at all.

[@RexImperatorTerra]

I cannot get enough of these remastered videos!! Your creativity is utter genius, subtlety and moral ambiguity woven into every detail. And the narrator's voice is hypnotic. When I've had a stressful Zoom call I put on one of these videos for a few minutes of calm-down before the next call, as his voice is so soporific. And the narrative stories are beautiful. Please don't stop!

[@connorgolden4]

Do the empire of the hand or the imperial remnant! Or the Sith empire (vitiates empire). Would also like to see the black templars of WH40K. More Warhammer fantasy content too!

[@guamson8946]

I guess the mentioning the Zann Consortium would’ve confused matters more. A pity though, I would’ve loved to see a nod to group and their brief reign over the criminal underworld.

[@marty2129]

Yes! Yes! Finally another Star Wars Legends video form Templin Institute! Please make more of them... :)

[@captaincookie2785]

Great video, now do Crimson Dawn!

[@tonybuk70]

Flowing through all, there is balance There is no peace without a passion to create There is no passion without peace to guide Knowledge fades without the strength to act Power blinds without the serenity to see There is freedom in life There is purpose in death The Force is all things and I am the Force

[@CSLucasEpic]

I first heard of the Black Sun when I played Shadows of the Empire on my old N64

[@deanangell3839]

I’d love you to do some videos on the various factions from the “Lost Planet” universe

[@akrishna1729]

awesome video. staggering to think that prince xizor essentially held as much territorial power as palpatine circa hoth; he lived and ruled through all the events that precipitated TPM, and vader believed in the legitimacy of his threat against luke to such an extent that he went out of his way to personally dispose of him

[@alexcamacho1842]

I would love to see a video about the Zann Consortium.

[@Brwigames]

The ZAMN consortium

[@samuelebincoletto637]

Me too, pal.

[@TheNewOrder-DaysOfConflict]

The Burgundian and The Dark Republic

[@rosesareredbutzerglingssti9290]

Please, investigate Czerka Corporation next!

[@mr.sr7171]

News caster: so what convenient you guys to help the rebels? High ranking member of the black sun: Money 😁

[@iainballas]

"You want to click subscribe on the channel." "I want to click subscribe on the channel." "You want to turn on notifications and like the video." "I want to turn on notifications and like the video."

[@petrameyer1121]

"I am Grey. I stand between the candle and the star. We are Grey. We stand between the darkness and the light." ;)

[@cjmo5273]

I love the writing behind the lore!! Makes me want to delve back into the Star Wars fandom

[@sergeyoneill1344]

Break down the warlords, Imperial Remnant, Dark Empire, Hapes, Zann Consortium, Red Room

[@dracosamm]

The main antagonist of *Shadows of the Empire*

[@dirk903]

"Prince Xisor had plans to kill Luke" He aslo had plans of getting in Leah's pants 😶

[@MrMarinus18]

3:20 I think it would want to obey some laws absolutely perfectly to the letter. That's what that intelligence is good for, know what rules are strongly enforced and which are not. Follow the strictly enforced laws and the ones people care about extremely closely and bend the lesser important rules to varying degrees. The key is to obey the rules the people want you to obey and to not obey the ones people don't care about.

[@tTaseric]

I think it's funny that the Black Sun was supposedly formed during the timeline of TOR, because that was a time when Bounty Hunting was an official branch of the Sith Empire, and when Smuggers were "Republic Privateers. When criminal syndicates were the playthings of Sith Lords, and when the Hutt Cartel bowed to the Jedi. It's amazing that they were able to even get a hold on the galaxy while remaining neutral during that time.

[@samuelebincoletto637]

Thank you Templin Institute, thank you very much for this video, i've waited for it for a long time and you finally made it, I'll be forever grateful to you for this.

[@inquisitierdavis821]

"legends" ya mean the actual cannon

[@Gamer1990100]

I first heard of Black Sun from the Shadow Of The Empire game

[@TheNamelessScholarOfficial]

I'm waiting for a Video on Zakuul, would love to see it.

[@gordonfreeman8109]

[STRENG GEHE-Oh wait, never mind

[@taffingtonboathouse5754]

[S T R E N G | G E H E I M]

[@zericle1]

Please do a video on the corporate sector authority! I would love to to see the day they're covered.

[@myopinionarchive7121]

Greath video as always

[@Owl_Space]

Okay, I can't resist. Black hole sun Won't you come And wash away the rain? Black hole sun Won't you come Won't you come Won't you come Sorry not sorry.

[@taffingtonboathouse5754]

🤘

[@KarlArty]

5:33 ah yes, the most shady hotel in the galaxy,: the *Nagoya Flower Hotel*

[@Brslld]

Wait a min... this isn't the Black sun that I was looking for.

[@robertagu5533]

Ironic when your criminal empire can an does get so big an diverse you can even "go legit" at times perhaps not even sure which legal side YOU are on anymore. Some of these groups an branches are less illegal groups an more like Merc an bounty hunters

[@Redactedredacted5837]

Es gibt keine Hoffnung unter dem schwarzen Sonne... Ah... wrong fandom

[@DoctorDeath147]

STRENG GEHEIM

[@taffingtonboathouse5754]

There is no hope under the black sun mate

[@LedosKell]

Tyber Zann: "Free credits."

[@Matteus2109]

Wonder if Templin could do the Yuzhan Vong?

[@MillenialVolk]

Please say there's more Shadows of the Empire content to come!

[@darkbob5]

Amazing report as always.

[@MrMarinus18]

7:10 I don't think Black Sun would directly engage in heavy fighting though. They are above all interested in making money. Large scale battles are extremely expensive.

[@4kngblixy258]

I used to watch ya years ago when ya had like 10 videos and few thousand subs damn ya blew up

[@Ramzblood]

There will ALWAYS be a black sun syndicate. I dreamed i was about to be attacked soon, and someone showed up wearing black suns on his shirt. It was me from somewhere else. It was my sigil.

[@lxperron610]

I would love to see a video on the zann consortium.

[@yonirais4699]

more stargate vids please!

[@themanwithhighground4279]

Make a video on Alpharius and Alpha Legion from WarHammer 40k.

[@Necroxion]

Black Sun Black Sun over paradise

[@Brwigames]

Through the rays of the glorious sunshine Sending down such a dark black "light"

[@Phantom6.6.6]

Love your videos. Hope you do the European union from battlefield 2142 some day. Love the game and it deserves the love and more for being able to hang and still function even after ea tried to kill it

[@underworldguardian704]

Could you do the Sith Grand Plan? That’s an interesting topic to me.

[@jmace2424]

The most important Vigo of all is Mortensen 🤣

[@awesomehpt8938]

The most awful thing in the Star Wars galaxy is the fact that pretty much every war has been caused because of the philosophical divide between two groups of space wizards. And billions of normal people have died because they were either dragged into it or caught in the crossfire. Perhaps things would be better if the force, the Jedi and the Sith never existed to begin with.

[@lordxboyke]

Kreia was right!

[@peanusbenis5631]

Wars would happen either way.

[@overlordmgcover2262]

That's not really correct if I remember. There have been conflicts without the Jedi or Sith being the cause.

[@paw1444]

@@overlordmgcover2262 yeah but the super massive galaxy defining wars with bodies in the billions tend to be because of them

[@Kubinda12345]

You're partially correct however not all wars were caused just by the conflict between those two religious orders. E.g. the Mandalorians were capable of causing great havoc without using the force as their weapon/philisophy.

[@dnelson069]

You guys should do a video on the Strogg from Quake!

[@alexamg6675]

If you haven’t do the Pyke Syndicate they are straight G’s

[@AhsokaFanboy1138]

11:20 Technically, Vader destroyed the city they were in to stop a bioweapon leak. The main lesson I took from Shadows of the Empire was if you played both sides, both sides would try to kill you. The Rebels wrecked Xizor's planetside palace, and Vader killed Xizor by blowing up his space station.

[@taffingtonboathouse5754]

Its ether black hole sun (a song) or the ordernstaat burgund (a dystopian society in HOI4's the new order last days of Europe)

[@nicinat0r]

Xizor was badass fr

[@justinhammer3196]

If Boba Fett had taken over Black Sun it would have stopped all criminal activity and legitimately set up orphanages and soup kitchens. And "Underlord" Fett would have dressed up and celebrated Wookie Life Day with the kiddies.

[@ElJorro]

Of course they slap their logo on everything!

[@_crazyscientist97]

Es ist kalt unter der schwarzen Sonne...

[@Brwigames]

Funny

[@johnkonig865]

The Black Sun would really fit into Starsector.

[@bigbitehood1353]

This would've been really cool to have last year smh

[@countdracula9399]

IS THAT A TNO REFERENCE?!?

[@taffingtonboathouse5754]

Mhm

[@radmanramezani7188]

I hope you tell more star wars legends contet

[@ericmadsen7470]

You 1st hear about Bkack Sun crime org in the book Shadows of the Empire.

[@cindyfornino6010]

do the empire of the rising sun next!

[@gavinsmith9871]

Oh, nice. Are the Nihil also on the table?

[@modernscream1606]

I wouldn't mind seeing the board and it's companies from the outer worlds

[@jayburn00]

Anyone here heard of black nebula (star wars legends)?

[@JQ3B94]

12 lines for the 12 gods

[@MeanBeanComedy]

These comments could get a bit...spicy...

[@barricadedpurifier]

Pls cover the Rebels from Metal Slug

[@WolfeSaber]

Next, the Pikes

[@Fang-gp6ne]

Red Sun!!!

[@ecksdee1149]

Shart Wars 😳

[@joaopauloviannacavalcanti7252]

I miss Stellaris Invicta so much lol

[@theservantsofthesoul1606]

My band and I band produced a Star Wars punk song in Chicago that is a spin on "The Empire Strikes Back". Please click on our sleeping tiger icon to possibly give it a listen. It is called "Lightsaber Language".

[@daniellanglois9973]

What about the Zhan Consortium????

[@ShadowDeist]

can you do crimson dawn next and then the pike syndicated

[@caulenpetty8520]

Can you guys do the dharma initiative from lost

[@mixmaster3028]

We need more Eu content