Nomic users: "If its an ergonomic ice tool, its a nomic"
@SergieRachmaninoff4 ай бұрын
Black Diamond: Releases a new rope Petzl users: Bro they just copied the Nomic
@markmaguire54 ай бұрын
Came here to say this
@fab10004 ай бұрын
how is that different/better than a field tested Nomic ?...
@5367dig4 ай бұрын
Bahha I love how this is the first comment as that was my first thought.
@neilb4484 ай бұрын
Is that the new black petzl hydranomic??😊
@TheSubieFan4 ай бұрын
I find it pretty cool that I can have either petzl or BD. BD hooks it up with pro deal and I like the company and the people sounds like a win to me.
@BlackDiamondEquipmentLtd4 ай бұрын
Check out this new episode on the Coldfear podcast to hear legends like Will Gadd, Aaron Mulkey, and Jackson Marvell plus our engineers get into the details of the Hydra and discuss topics like this. Hope you get to swing the Hydra soon. kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4XTepdmjdukeNEsi=ri0yehOWuNAGHaF_
@4TechRollToll4 ай бұрын
Nomics are disposable junk after a year of real climbing and a poor benchmark standard for quality. Forecast or Eliteclimb would be significantly better standards to compare to. Although BD will tell you look at mulkeys testing or listen to will it’s kinda pointless...mainstream climbing brands are building a tools that caters to their primary user group - WI4/m6 and below.
@c.53764 ай бұрын
So X-Dreams + Nomics. Cool.
@levey444 ай бұрын
You sure this isn’t a nomic?
@nicksterling26524 ай бұрын
That's sweet 🤙
@4TechRollToll4 ай бұрын
You can pry my cobras from my cold dead hands. Ok looking tool. Would’ve much rather seen a line of tools specialized for each discipline. I’ll still probably keep climbing alpine with cobras and mixed/tougher ice with fuels and look to try a higher end option from EliteClimb in the future. With as many snap issues as we see developing in handles it’s kinda unfortunate to see that handle construction remains unchanged from previous tool designs.
@motorradstation244 ай бұрын
It looks like Nomic and X-Dream spent a night together.
@c.53764 ай бұрын
Hahah came here to say this.
@alexanderolsson5854 ай бұрын
Quite similar to Petzl Nomic..
@BlackDiamondEquipmentLtd4 ай бұрын
We'd love for you to swing the Hydra and let us know what you think. Check out all the demo events we're hosting this winter here: www.blackdiamondequipment.com/en_US/content/hydra-demo-centers/ Also, for a great deep dive on what makes the Hydra unique, check out what Will Gadd, Aaron Mulkey, and Jackson Marvell are saying in this new Coldfear podcast: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4XTepdmjdukeNEsi=vxFUV1uDPkmooYen
@jirihaban3803 ай бұрын
TLDR: They made Nomics but green
@felixblouin48604 ай бұрын
Nothing Grivel can’t do
@jakubpalenik42714 ай бұрын
Three years to copy Nomic is a pedestrian effort.
@konyp14 ай бұрын
TLDR: we copied the Nomic
@calebmmallory4 ай бұрын
Things that are different are not the same 🤪
@FireRevontulet4 ай бұрын
I have to say, the aluminum head doesn't make me that confident
@jaroslavkeprt11514 ай бұрын
Aluminum head is perfectly safe for a technical ice axe.
@lavericklavericklave4 ай бұрын
carboard box computer stand. using hand right next to impact test. cyclic testing at room temperature.......
@johnsales70844 ай бұрын
If there is good availability of replacement parts, then this tool can be considered for purchase, otherwise it will simply be a waste of money...
@simonecima48844 ай бұрын
C’mon men…It’s always not a good thing pointing at other’s work: that ‘s for sure. Maybe the quality of craftmanship is a little bit better than Petzl, pleagued by minor but not so minor material and mechanical problem but hey; the design of the whole tool is out dated right now. Too open the angle between the tip of the pick and too gentle the bend in the middle of the shaft, to say the least. Doesn’t matter if it seems a Nomic: this is not a tool i will use for climbing ice for the very end tech grade. Next winter Blue Ice will exit with two new tools: one the same league of Grivel intermediate levels machine. The other, a beast I guess, a marvel radically bending the shaft just near the head, like IceRock A’speed. 570 grams, no rivets, beautiful hydro shaft. Oh, I’m not a Blue Ice troll! I’m only a reaaaaaly old veteran, starting in 1985 and not missing a single winter , despite all the injuries and epics of extreme ice climbing. C’mon BD: technology and design are driven the future!!!