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The Ugly Truth About 6:5 Blackjack

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Blackjack Apprenticeship

Blackjack Apprenticeship

Күн бұрын

What is 6:5 Blackjack? Should you play it? In this video, Colin breaks down the numbers and gets into what 6:5 Blackjack means for players, as well as card counters.
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@JohnnyUndaunted
@JohnnyUndaunted Жыл бұрын
To sum it up. 6 to 5 pays 120% 3 to 2 pays 150%
@andypuga6048
@andypuga6048 3 жыл бұрын
OOST MORE OFTEN!!!!! Just came back from Vegas after training for a year from ur videos, Left with more than I what I went in !
@MondoLeStraka
@MondoLeStraka 3 жыл бұрын
With 6:5, the game is so bad that they could offer Early Surrender and it still wouldn't make up for the disadvantage.
@MondoLeStraka
@MondoLeStraka 3 жыл бұрын
@Sheldon Cooper Not to nitpick but, I thought it was once in every 23 hands.
@pbutter237
@pbutter237 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, Colin! As widespread and well-known this topic is, I do not think there is anyone who has made such a concise argument against this epidemic on KZbin! Nice job!
@Nickidog8
@Nickidog8 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting these videos, i am in the process of watching all of them. I love what you are doing keep it up
@pewing99
@pewing99 3 жыл бұрын
I primarily play on cruise ships and almost all of the tables are 6:5 except for the $15-$20 tables and usually those are only open in the later evenings. Luckily on my last cruise the host agreed to open one for me at any time I wanted, but I was usually the only one playing because of the minimum. I think the max we ever had was three players.
@jimmyjohn8008
@jimmyjohn8008 2 жыл бұрын
I'm studying up on this because I'm going on cruise for the second time soon walked off the boat with more cash then we walked on to the boat with. Looked up the basic part of counting cards last time and only bothered trying to keep track of the count watching others play, and when the count would get high I jump in if i could, play the shoe out then leave. I was surprised that every table had slightly different rules, and realized there where only 2 tables worth playing.
@MrBrain4
@MrBrain4 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Colin. I am not sure of your point that a +4 true count is sufficient to overcome the 2% house edge on a 6:5 game, since this assumes a +0.5% EV gain for each +1 in TC. I believe that a significant portion of the +0.5% EV gain in a normal 3:2 game comes directly from the increased frequencies of blackjacks (both for the player and the dealer) combined with the difference in payments (-1 bet for dealer blackjack, +1.5 bets for player blackjack). When they reduce the blackjack payment (-1 bet for dealer blackjack, +1.2 bets for player blackjack), this surely must also reduce the 0.5% EV gain per +1 TC, thus requiring an even higher than +4 TC to reach +EV. What do you think?
@BobsledRider
@BobsledRider 3 жыл бұрын
Having just spent a few days at New York New York in Las Vegas, I noticed that none of the tables had the blackjack payout printed on the table nor was it listed on the minimum/maximum bet signs. I only found out it was a 6:5 game when I finally got a blackjack.
@chrisbaker2669
@chrisbaker2669 3 жыл бұрын
Ask the dealer what are the rules before playing.
@sethjohnson5887
@sethjohnson5887 3 жыл бұрын
Just ordered a shirt for my next Vegas trip in December. Its going to say "sucker's play 6 to 5.
@pbutter237
@pbutter237 3 жыл бұрын
Haha! I thought about doing that too when my local casinos started with this nonsense. I decided it was a bad idea in terms of longevity! Instead I have told bj players at the casinos not to play it.
@UnknownUser12316
@UnknownUser12316 3 жыл бұрын
yes. When you go to a casino to play blackjack, wear that shirt and let the other gamblers know
@sethjohnson5887
@sethjohnson5887 3 жыл бұрын
@@pbutter237 ill use it in Vegas at casinos im not playing because of it. Stay on the strip because its always free. Never play there tho
@sexygeek8996
@sexygeek8996 2 жыл бұрын
My opinion was always that we should let the casinos make more money off the idiots so they can fund the better games and the cheap food. That opinion is changing now that those things are disappearing anyway.
@Dan-ej9iu
@Dan-ej9iu 5 ай бұрын
It not easy to fine a five dollar table any more
@justink9579
@justink9579 3 жыл бұрын
I recently went to Reno to play but because of the Covid rules it was hard to get a seat at any table let alone a 3:2 BJ game. I'm building my bankroll and tend to only play single or double deck 3:2. I was so glad a spot finally opened up that I didn't pay attention and sat down at a 6:5 and started playing. Another person showed up and sat next to me and started betting $100 a hand and I could tell he wasn't counting. He then decides to bet 2 spots of $100 but the dealer told him the new covid rule was that he had to play the 2nd spot blind. We both looked at each other and laughed thinking she couldn't be serious. Well, she was and he did for a couple of hands before getting up to leave. When I say blind, that meant he had to hit or stand blind and could only hit once like a double down but as a regular bet, without seeing either card. Right then is when I noticed the the 6:5 and decided to leave.
@GaryCameron780
@GaryCameron780 Жыл бұрын
My bullshit detector went off the moment I saw "new covid rule"
@eddie-xi6ls
@eddie-xi6ls 11 ай бұрын
@@GaryCameron780 The payout rule is plainly written on the table felt. NEVER EVER play 6:5.
@MarcoLiftz
@MarcoLiftz 9 ай бұрын
The casino by me has a rule now that you gotta bet double if you wanna bet two hands. So if the min is 25 you gotta bet 50 for each hand so dumb and they’re all 6/5
@eddie-xi6ls
@eddie-xi6ls 9 ай бұрын
@@MarcoLiftz Lousy rules. NEVER EVER Play 6:5 tables. For example on a $100 bet blackjack will pay $150 on a 3:2 table while on a 6:5 table only $120.
@MarcoLiftz
@MarcoLiftz 9 ай бұрын
@@eddie-xi6ls yeah man I’m gonna try seeing if another boat close to me has 3/2 maybe some better minimums too. Still working on my courting and mastering basic strategy too!
@camburnette5109
@camburnette5109 3 жыл бұрын
When the strip was implemented 6/5 I IMMEDIATELY went off the strip. Plus I already liked the off-the-strip casinos so it was no sweat off my back.
@brianbaker2884
@brianbaker2884 2 жыл бұрын
Encore casino in boston Does 6-5, I wish I knew this ahead of time. No wonder I have been struggling. I wish I could go there with a shirt with the 6-5 and 3-2 comparison.
@sandybeautyqueen
@sandybeautyqueen 3 жыл бұрын
No one should ever ever play a 6-5 blackjack table! That’s a scam
@ryanistheguy96
@ryanistheguy96 2 жыл бұрын
Lol the exact casino he zoomed in on is where I learned the game of blackjack!
@dieselviper7811
@dieselviper7811 Жыл бұрын
I have trouble finding anything but 6/5 unless I want to go on a road trip
@juusopakoma7958
@juusopakoma7958 3 жыл бұрын
Oh finnaly new video good job
@igorgerlovin3185
@igorgerlovin3185 11 ай бұрын
Anyone notice that in the introduction to most of Colin's videos (0:20) the blackjack shown gets paid even money?
@DynamicGracer
@DynamicGracer 2 жыл бұрын
1:00 What an awesome play in blackjack doubling 19 vs a 5
@ratataran
@ratataran 2 жыл бұрын
It is, strategy says to double a soft 19 against a 6, but it could work against any number really, but you're pushing it then. If you get a ace, it becomes a 20, a 2, it becomes a 21, a 3 it becomes a 12 A 4 it becomes a 13 5 becomes 14 6 becomes 15 7 becomes 16 8 becomes 17 9 becomes 18 10 stays at 19. It's a good call because the dealer would most likely bust with a 5 anyway, and you're more likely to pull out a 10 card anyway, not always but it works. That's why basic strategy is a thing.
@stevenridenour1295
@stevenridenour1295 3 жыл бұрын
Only 1 notification and no messages? Surely that isn't your BJA profile Colin 😂😂
@UnknownUser12316
@UnknownUser12316 3 жыл бұрын
you said we don't get the advantage until a true 4 what if we back count and wait for a true 4 or higher then play? Maybe, since we are playing a 6 to 5 casinos will not even care if we count cards.
@Black-Chip-Player-21
@Black-Chip-Player-21 3 жыл бұрын
On the east coast where I live. There’s only 2 casino’s that are owned by Caesars corp! After this covid mess there's no $5 dollar tables $15 min 6:5- 6 decks but theres $25 min 3:2 -6 deck $50 min 3:2 -6 decks but no mid shoe entry! So I normally stay at the $25 table 3-2 to play or Wang in. But max $1500 -$25 and $50 $5000 max 6 decks Tables are normally 2/4 players
@marcsarp
@marcsarp 3 жыл бұрын
Where do I get the UK deviation chart for UK casinos?
@DynamicGracer
@DynamicGracer 2 жыл бұрын
What if I want the variance and can bet $1200 a hand with $5 min bet? If I have a %0.5 edge that's $6 a hand I make in EV plus I get the variance I desire.
@alanrice7410
@alanrice7410 Жыл бұрын
Lake Tahoe is a beautiful place. When I went to Lake Tahoe in Sept 2021, they only had 6-5 games and the table limits started at $15. You have to either play the 6-5 games or drive about 25 miles to Carson City or stay in Reno yo get 3-2 games. Reno is not scenic like Tahoe. Driving over 25 miles to stay at a hike in the wall for the 3-2 games is very inconvenient. In Lake, you are basically stuck.
@CHURCHISAWESUM
@CHURCHISAWESUM 10 ай бұрын
So don’t play. They will eventually get the message and bring back 3:2, this has happened before
@cellis5111
@cellis5111 3 жыл бұрын
not a question about 6:5, but generally advantage play, im doing the math here lets say you are achieving some EV maybe +0.005, the standard deviation of blackjack is 1.14, even playing 10,000 hands and applying Central Limit Theorem you have avg = 10000*.005 = 50 betting units profit, but std deviation 1.14 * sqrt(10,000) = 1.14 * 100 = 114 BU. It seems like std deviation is a killer 10,000 hands it could still clobber you.
@basi21
@basi21 3 жыл бұрын
how do you learn deviations best?
@sleong
@sleong 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@matthew_natividad
@matthew_natividad 2 ай бұрын
Duly noted Idk whether it was luck or that the blackjack table I was playing at was a 6 to 5 one when I lost almost consistently
@seanodeli7031
@seanodeli7031 Жыл бұрын
Low stakes 6:5 is the norm now You might as well play online and hope the randomized shuffle after every hand is friendly
@qBeYcarpet
@qBeYcarpet Жыл бұрын
I've only played some online blackjack back few years ago, but to me it was always obvious to avoid the 6 to 5 tables. At first I though there must be some upside to those tables cause why would anyone play with worse odds but I guess it's just people not understanding math :D
@CHURCHISAWESUM
@CHURCHISAWESUM 10 ай бұрын
People are a little tarded. Some fast food joints offered a 1/3rd pounder burger for a while but it sold poorly. When asked why, their customers responded in a survey that they liked the quarter pounder more because it’s more beef. (They saw a 4 instead of a 3) People don’t understand basic fractions, it’s shocking.
@akimbospree2595
@akimbospree2595 3 жыл бұрын
Hi I bought your book and I’ve been following your advice. I’ve had some positive gains, and I don’t see anything about taxes in your book. How do you handle taxes with your wins?
@mandc20022
@mandc20022 3 жыл бұрын
You dont pay taxes , taxation is theft
@johnnyslokes2712
@johnnyslokes2712 2 жыл бұрын
Why do you think the government is entitled to any of it?
@honeriley
@honeriley Жыл бұрын
In my country, our tax authorities are always happy to help you declare all income so that it can be taxed. It's their job.
@dtrslav4118
@dtrslav4118 3 жыл бұрын
Listening to the basic strategy song to remember basic strategy!
@schoolemail1324
@schoolemail1324 3 жыл бұрын
what basic strategy song ? where did you find it ?
@toddwiseman1421
@toddwiseman1421 Жыл бұрын
Fast forward 2 years and unless you're at a high minimum table, it's all 6:5, even on 25 min tables if you're on the strip. It's not stopping 99% of tourists from playing with the worse odds, so why would casinos stop?
@kenstevens7855
@kenstevens7855 10 ай бұрын
Vegas strip casinos have the advantages of the insane traffic and inability to get around during peak hours, people without cars, people traveling in groups, and people there to do things other than gamble. The average guy staying at Cosmo for a bachelor party is not going to make it over to TI or Palms for low minimum 3:2. He will play at Cosmo or Planet Hollywood and he wants to minimize risk he'll play 6:5. He can protest by not playing but then will head over to the roulette table with worse odds, or play the slots. The reality is 3:2 is going to cost more to play and the risk of ruin is going to be higher on the strip. No way around it.
@DialoghayeBiNazir
@DialoghayeBiNazir 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, they opened a 3;2 some kind of video game black jack with real dealer and real 8 decks cards because of c19, but the difference is you can not resplit if you split, what about this? thanks
@jannisdavidzwahlen
@jannisdavidzwahlen 3 жыл бұрын
And i guess you can't double down after splits and surrender either, right?
@DialoghayeBiNazir
@DialoghayeBiNazir 3 жыл бұрын
@@jannisdavidzwahlen I can not surrender but I can double down after split
@garygwinn4256
@garygwinn4256 3 жыл бұрын
I want an opinion: I play in a game that is 6:5 on BJ, but allows Surrender, and Double Downs on any amount of Cards. Most players dont even play the game correctly and surrender, or double on 3 and 4 card counts, and they know it. For players like me, who can keep a running count and will use surrender and double down on every good opportunity, how much EV am I giving up or gaining?
@TheIbney00
@TheIbney00 Жыл бұрын
I know it’s a year late, but with surrender, double down on any cards, RSA, and if it’s a single deck, you can expect with a 1-5 bet spread betting $10 at one spot to make $24 an hour with a less than 1% ROR if you have a $10,000 bankroll. This assumes 100 hands an hour. If that goes to a 2 deck game it shoots down to a $5 an hour game with those same parameters and a 20% ROR. Anything over a 2 deck game is a losing game.
@sanduursand4956
@sanduursand4956 3 жыл бұрын
Hi I am from Europe and almost every Casino has these ******* CSM :-( Does the map in the member area of BJA tell me, in which casinos in europe I find shoe games? Or is this for americans only?
@lapiojitarealestateventure4269
@lapiojitarealestateventure4269 2 жыл бұрын
Eye opener
@TheDjcarter1966
@TheDjcarter1966 3 жыл бұрын
Just started watching this channel but I would guess if you could find be in last position at a full table you might have a bette chance. Although the hard part would be changing basic strategy to account for crazy positions you find yourself in like 7 or 8 count with half the deck left.
@hazza2247
@hazza2247 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Collin, I recently started watching u like a week ago, already have basic strategy memorised and can count down one deck in 50 secodns, i have a long way to go, Im not even old enough to enter casinos so I have plenty of time, wish me luck. I have one question, do u have side casual or part time job?
@muasboy
@muasboy 3 жыл бұрын
Finally, i know which casino started 6:5 ‘Spread spread spread’ a lot of butter on ur toast!!
@maisencoding1862
@maisencoding1862 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Colin, I read an article ablut beating Bj without csrd counting. They listened two methods, 1) Hole Carding (Identifying the dealers hole card) and 2) Front loading (Predicting the next card). I am not sure what to think about it, can you make a Video about it please. I think this is very interessting. Keep up your great content!
@chrisbaker2669
@chrisbaker2669 3 жыл бұрын
How do you know the dealers hole card? How do you know the front card?
@maisencoding1862
@maisencoding1862 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbaker2669 In the article they said something about peeking it if the dealer is sloppy (of course this is an exception and not regularly). Obviously the dealers are well trained so it must be difficult and I am not really sure if it works, so I wanted to Colins opinion about it. But you can just google "Bj Front loading", "Bj Hole Carding" and see how it should work.
@dogguy8603
@dogguy8603 2 жыл бұрын
Only about 1% of dealers are weak enough to show their hole card, and edge sorting is incredibly difficult as you have to remember the manufacturing defects on the cards
@igorgerlovin3185
@igorgerlovin3185 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't "break even with 100% risk of ruin" an oxymoron?
@ddshocktrooper5604
@ddshocktrooper5604 2 жыл бұрын
Not really, if your bankroll isn't infinite and you aren't gaining advantage, you are gauranteed to be ruined eventually, even if you don't have disadvantage. A bad string of variance is certain to kill your bankroll one day.
@Cowtymsmiesznego
@Cowtymsmiesznego Жыл бұрын
Nope, it's actually a mathematical fact. A random walk on a line where you have 50% to go 1 step forward, and 50% to go 1 step backward at every step is guaranteed to eventually reach any specific point on the line, regardless of where you start. Basically, as ShockTrooper said, if you try to play a fair game indefinitely you *will* eventually get luck as bad that it will bankrupt you (assuming the other side of the game has infinite money).
@joshz1999
@joshz1999 3 жыл бұрын
Is 8 deck 6:5 blackjack worth even trying to count cards on? My local casino only offers 6:5 8 deck and I’ve lost half my bankroll already
@dogguy8603
@dogguy8603 2 жыл бұрын
You shouldn't be playing 6:5 at all
@loudfare8840
@loudfare8840 3 жыл бұрын
One a year, my family has a reunion with the 1st and 2nd cousins and one of the things we do is play poker and black jack with fake money (chips). I’ve learned to count cards to win that event. Nothing else
@Rubycon99
@Rubycon99 Жыл бұрын
"...you're just being greedy." "Sir, I'm gambling. That's the entire point."
@Thewesmen67
@Thewesmen67 9 ай бұрын
😂
@greenknightsea3906
@greenknightsea3906 Жыл бұрын
Best way I found to think about this is that 3:2 - they pay you 3 and themselves 2....but 6:5 they pay you 6 but instead of giving themselves an even 4 they bump it up and make it 5.
@andyarias3736
@andyarias3736 3 жыл бұрын
question I had a small issue today at a casino I had 2 cards that equal 9 every body passed i had a feeling the person next 2 me was not gonna hit so the dealer was gonna bust but when the dealer seen she was gonna bust she said I couldn't stay at a nine that I had to hit .why is that why couldn't I just had stayed why was it an issue 😕
@sexygeek8996
@sexygeek8996 2 жыл бұрын
For those who like 6:5 blackjack, casinos also have 000 roulette, tighter slots, and redemption machines that keep your change.
@dogguy8603
@dogguy8603 2 жыл бұрын
I am pretty sure the redemption machines dont pay out coins due to the coin shortage, you can still get the change at the cage, but your not an AP if you play slots
@sexygeek8996
@sexygeek8996 2 жыл бұрын
@@dogguy8603 That was the original justification, but they enjoy the extra profit so they are still doing it. Many people don't go to the cage because they don't want to wait in line for a few cents and some casinos exploit that by printing tickets that you can't put into other machines. There are slots that can be advantage-played.
@jayiflee5359
@jayiflee5359 3 жыл бұрын
Blackjack pays even money here now
@bruhtofu411
@bruhtofu411 Жыл бұрын
So if I put $1 at a 6:5 blackjack how much do I win or lose
@Blackjackapprenticeship
@Blackjackapprenticeship Жыл бұрын
2 cents per hand played on a $1 bet. So if you play 100 hands per hour, that's $2/hr. But most places it's a $10 table or more, so that would be $20/hr or more. Regular blackjack is 4x lower house edge.
@bruhtofu411
@bruhtofu411 Жыл бұрын
@@Blackjackapprenticeship oh thanks
@13livingit
@13livingit 3 жыл бұрын
Single deck shoe size is preferable, but if given the option between 6deck and 8deck shoe size with 3:2 payout. Which one is better?
@GaryLuKOTH
@GaryLuKOTH 2 жыл бұрын
3 to 2 payout is the most important.
@russlehman2070
@russlehman2070 2 жыл бұрын
Everything else being equal, the six deck is slightly better, but it's a pretty small difference. Six deck is better for counting, though an eight deck with good penetration might be better than a six deck with poor penetration.
@T-Vegas
@T-Vegas 3 жыл бұрын
Not worth playing 6:5 unless it has incredible pen, and the house has a high tolerance for wide betting spreads (along with all the player-favorable rules). Still, on the Vegas Strip, you can find 3:2 double deck and shoe games ($10 min) with many many more off-strip (even some $5 tables). NO need to play those 6:5 games, and shame on any of those counters who would get "pissed-off". They shouldn't be playing them anyway! We need them to go away!
@chrisbaker2669
@chrisbaker2669 3 жыл бұрын
3:2 double deck game is way better than any 6:5 game.
@T-Vegas
@T-Vegas 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbaker2669 True, but if the tables are busy, then your profitability takes a hit. I can see, maybe the only reason, why some players look for the 6:5 tables, because they can get more one-on-one with the dealer. Overall, though, 3:2 is preferred.
@Carl_Johnson_from_grove_street
@Carl_Johnson_from_grove_street 2 жыл бұрын
i didnt see any 3/2 on the strip last time i went
@ianforsyth2692
@ianforsyth2692 2 жыл бұрын
I walked into Graton Casino in California. The only blackjack games that were offered were 6 to 5 or 3 to 2 with a shuffle machine shuffling after each hand. If they can do this with all of their blackjack games, isn't card counting a losing investment? It isn't even worth my time to play a 6 to 5 game.
@felixsoheili1154
@felixsoheili1154 2 жыл бұрын
Mandalay Bay had 6 6:5 tables at $25 min and 1 3:2 at $25 min. Well guess which table was empty
@willjean1614
@willjean1614 Жыл бұрын
My brother doesn’t know anything about blackjack but always tells me why am I playing it, because of the paying back is so low
@derrickstewart8612
@derrickstewart8612 8 ай бұрын
Shoutout Tortious Rock in 29 Palms.
@michaelmclaughlin1958
@michaelmclaughlin1958 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve always wondered why some casinos didn’t offer 7-5 BJ tables and advertise it as a better game to draw more players. Most $5 players are so bad I bet they’d print money at these games.
@MarysiaDab
@MarysiaDab 3 жыл бұрын
*Blackjack !!!!*
@fredmercury4448
@fredmercury4448 2 жыл бұрын
What casinos in Vegas even have 3 to 2 anymore? I was just there for a week and only found 6 to 5. So disappointing
@letswinddown
@letswinddown 2 жыл бұрын
New York has a table
@ibraheemy8820
@ibraheemy8820 3 жыл бұрын
does the map covers uk casinos or is it just america?
@AngryJT
@AngryJT 3 ай бұрын
Well where are the 5 buck 3:2 tables today?
@newscottishgolf7305
@newscottishgolf7305 8 ай бұрын
Never touching a 6 to 5 blackjack table
@EricSmyth4Christ
@EricSmyth4Christ 9 ай бұрын
Where is the video on if 6:5 is beatable ?
@user-og4fk6os1r
@user-og4fk6os1r 3 ай бұрын
03:24 - best you can do is break even with a very high risk of ruin. (I'm not sure what he means by 100% risk of ruin but I don't think it literally means you're guaranteed to lose your money, just a very high chance due to variance).
@EricSmyth4Christ
@EricSmyth4Christ 3 ай бұрын
@@user-og4fk6os1r if the very long run you will go broke Similar to coin flipping It should be %99.999 though haha
@tubeguy4066
@tubeguy4066 2 жыл бұрын
3:44 so splitting 10s? lol
@about33asians7
@about33asians7 3 жыл бұрын
I've been seeing more 1:1 tables recently
@jannisdavidzwahlen
@jannisdavidzwahlen 3 жыл бұрын
Where? A blackjack that pays 1:1, you sure?
@about33asians7
@about33asians7 3 жыл бұрын
@@jannisdavidzwahlen Red Hawk in Sacramento, 8 card shoe 1:1 Blackjack
@sexygeek8996
@sexygeek8996 2 жыл бұрын
I saw those many years ago in the party pits and other fancy-themed areas.
@skyriderize
@skyriderize 3 жыл бұрын
I place a one-hundred dollar bet at 6/2 and win a blackjack. How much do I take back!
@emmanuelvacakis4463
@emmanuelvacakis4463 3 жыл бұрын
You can beat 6-5 blackjack games if you are one on one with the dealer and can play with a huge betting spread. But you won’t get those conditions in a casino hardly ever. For that matter, you can even beat even money blackjack if the conditions are right. The amount of time wasted in finding those games makes it not worth the effort. So just stay away from all 6-5 games and tell as many others to stay away from them as well.
@boomknight1015
@boomknight1015 2 жыл бұрын
Fractions are easy as hell. 2 times 3:2 is 6:4. Seeing how 4 is what you paid and 6 is what you get, 6:5 is paying more for the same. Math is not that hard.
@user-og4fk6os1r
@user-og4fk6os1r 3 ай бұрын
Well this video was 3 years ago. Last time I was in Vegas (December 2023) I couldn't find a single 3:2 shoe game or double deck on the Strip for $25/hand or less. In fact I couldn't find a normal shoe game on the strip for less than $25 period, or any single deck at all. Lots of Free Bet and other garbage. Predictably they used the pandemic as an excuse to upend everything. So blackjack on the Strip now is firmly entertainment value only.
@shreydavuluri5180
@shreydavuluri5180 3 жыл бұрын
Hey guys... A 16 year old here. Just wanted to say that I really want a BJA membership, but there's no way on earth my parents will allow me... But the second I get my first job in college tho!!! 😎
@mrgee4592
@mrgee4592 3 жыл бұрын
I think that casino should offer 6/5 BJ but display the actual updated running count for the benefit of the players. Players may enter game at beginning of shoe only. Still house advantage overall, but they have inoculated themselves against card counters.
@swagmassa6702
@swagmassa6702 3 жыл бұрын
They should not implement 6:5 BJ. It literally does not help the player in anyway. Let me break this down. 6:5 vs 3:2 ratio. We will get a common denominator by multiplying by 2 and 5. 12:10 vs 15:10. In what world does it benefit the player to lose 25% of potential they could be making if they were just to play 3:2
@mr.howell3528
@mr.howell3528 3 жыл бұрын
Im from finland and here all casinos offer 1:1 blackjacks in a table where they play with 8 decks lol
@chrisbaker2669
@chrisbaker2669 3 жыл бұрын
That game is unbeatable.
@ligafftheindifferent3495
@ligafftheindifferent3495 3 жыл бұрын
And yet a lot of Europeans think we Americans are stupid.
@johnnyslokes2712
@johnnyslokes2712 2 жыл бұрын
Why did you guys ever decide to play those games? Seems pretty dumb that anyone would even entertain a casino at that point.
@stevenhelgason8190
@stevenhelgason8190 3 жыл бұрын
6:5 is unbeatable. Simple as that. No point in sitting down at one.
@cccccc499
@cccccc499 3 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily
@cccccc499
@cccccc499 3 жыл бұрын
It’s beatable with hole carding and ace sequencing. Technically, it is beatable with counting but you’d have to play very aggressive. I wouldn’t try to beat 6:5 by counting but if I saw a dealer revealing their hole card a lot, I would absolutely sit down and play
@stevenhelgason8190
@stevenhelgason8190 3 жыл бұрын
@@cccccc499 Any game would be beatable with hole carding if you were to come across the 1% of dealers that might present that opportunity I wouldn't dispute that 6:5 might be beatable mathematically. But it's not beatable practicably. I suppose you could play with a 1:100 bet spread, endure a 50%+ risk of ruin, and hope for 90% penetration to allow for the 1% occurrence where you might apply a maximum bet. All for a very minuscule edge. Seriously....who'd want to do that?
@cccccc499
@cccccc499 3 жыл бұрын
I’m just saying, you shouldn’t automatically write off a 6:5 table without at least checking it out first for other ap opportunities first. Also, a couple guys on gambling with an edge used to go to 6:5 tables with huge spreads because there was no heat and the casino thought it was unbeatable. The casino eventually caught on and backed them off.. that being said, I gotta agree with you, counting isn’t really worth it on 6:5 tables
@kenstevens7855
@kenstevens7855 10 ай бұрын
Low minimum 6:5 isn't a scam. Any logical person running a casino would offer a $10 game at 6:5 for uneducated players and offer $25 and up tables for educated/skilled players. Offering a $5 or $10 3:2 game does not make sense for a major casino with massive overhead. AP's don't care but business is business. They aren't there to make $10 per hour off you. One caveat is that 6:5 might hurt the dealers, because a lot of players only tip the additional payout from their blackjacks. I don't know if there's been analysis done on that. However, in general there's a rationale behind 6:5 if the cost of entry is lower. It's not for serious blackjack players but it does offer value for some. High minimum 6:5 is a scam. There's no justification for that.
@roomservicetaco
@roomservicetaco 3 жыл бұрын
What is your math for suggesting that a $20k bankroll will yield $40-$50/hr EV? G Chang makes a compelling, mathematically derived argument that $10k bankroll will yield $10/hr (actually $12.50 or so without tips) under optimal betting strategy (though not with deviations) and real world circumstances. Even if his math is a little conservative, you are proposing 3-4x better EV for only 2x the bankroll. Would be interested to see how you derived that. Thanks. Here is the link to his video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b2K7nIloga2MoMk
@Campy1
@Campy1 3 жыл бұрын
There's a lot wrong with g chang's video. He never gives the deck pen of his example game. He assumes a true 6 is the highest true count you'll see. He assumes you can only play 100 hands in an hour. He wongs out at a true -4 and should have left way before then with a $10k bankroll. With his same 1-12 spread playing a game at 120 rounds an hour with 5/6 pen and wonging at a -2 you can make $28/hr in EV with 5% RoR and an N0 of 234 hours. You can run your own sims using cvcx or the pro betting software on Colin's website
@mitifox
@mitifox 3 жыл бұрын
Is there any way i could contact you?
@eddie-xi6ls
@eddie-xi6ls 11 ай бұрын
I have seen Casinos that have both 3:2 and 6:5 tables right next to each other and incredibly both tables are full of players. On a $100 bet the 3:2 table pays $150 for blackjack while the 6:3 table pays $120. Go figure!
@EricSmyth4Christ
@EricSmyth4Christ 9 ай бұрын
Yup seen that too
@wiseguy4368
@wiseguy4368 Жыл бұрын
I was just in Vegas a month ago and on the strip it was mostly 6:5 blackjack so I didn't play at all , it is a total rip off
@sunalwaysshinesonTVs
@sunalwaysshinesonTVs Ай бұрын
TL;DR 6:5 is fkn terrible for you. However, there is a way to play 6:5 single deck BJ more even in odds but Im not gonna tell ya about it cause it will piss of the AP community. Geee.. thx. Great channel.
@davidames1746
@davidames1746 Жыл бұрын
How is it even legal in Nevada. I've swayed at least 30 people to avoid LV because of this!!
@bobh9542
@bobh9542 3 жыл бұрын
How about treating the blackjack as 11 and doubling down as per basic strategy and the count?
@estar8204
@estar8204 3 жыл бұрын
In a tournament that’s sometimes the best thing to do
@pokr122
@pokr122 3 жыл бұрын
Is that a serious question?
@estar8204
@estar8204 3 жыл бұрын
Dogmanaz.com I’m sure he’s kidding
@MondoLeStraka
@MondoLeStraka 3 жыл бұрын
I think the index is TC+9 vs. 6. Also, in the tournaments I've played in BJ is usually paid 2:1.
@bobh9542
@bobh9542 3 жыл бұрын
@@MondoLeStraka Thanks Mondo that is what I was wondering about.
@jayvegas3748
@jayvegas3748 3 жыл бұрын
Double Down 💡
@Mirror245
@Mirror245 3 жыл бұрын
Save yourself the time - DONT
@prepaidtrash5552
@prepaidtrash5552 Ай бұрын
Your math is bad too, 3:2 isn’t 2/3 more than 6:5 lol it’s 3/10s more
@Michenseki
@Michenseki 3 жыл бұрын
While I understand that 3:2 is better than 6:5, 3:2 tables are really hard to find. Also, I have been at a table for hours and not a single blackjack. If I rarely get a blackjack, then 6:5 doesn't really matter.
@CrypticCobra
@CrypticCobra 2 жыл бұрын
idk why they don't just remove the edge that comes with standard blackjack using card counting entirely. They spend so much on security and finding when advantage players are in their casino, when all casinos could literally just switch the rules so even with perfect strategy and using your brain, you still at best can break even. There would be no reason to card count, and the only people entering the casino are the gullible idiots that think gambling is a good idea in the first place.
@EquationsAndExplanations
@EquationsAndExplanations 3 жыл бұрын
First
@paulklemer
@paulklemer 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe with 6/5 blackjack you get blackjacks more often
@sexygeek8996
@sexygeek8996 2 жыл бұрын
No you don't. It's the same deck.
@QBAN2010
@QBAN2010 3 жыл бұрын
People are dumb
@glasson65
@glasson65 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone that plays that game is a FOOL!
@mrg1969
@mrg1969 3 жыл бұрын
This video should only take 30 seconds if you sit at bj 6:5, don’t play it done get up and leave. The fact that you said you sit and played on one explains why you don’t play anymore
@cccccc499
@cccccc499 3 жыл бұрын
Generally, yeah, it’s best to stay away from 6:5 but to automatically write them off is potentially throwing money away. You should still check out every game to see if you can find an edge. If a dealer on a 6:5 table is showing his hole card and you don’t even bother to check the table, then you just threw away a 10% edge
@mrg1969
@mrg1969 3 жыл бұрын
ccc ccc I’ll give ya that, looking for a weak dealer is a good reason to play. But you don’t have to play to find one of those. It’s rare to find those now and days
@miamatti
@miamatti 3 жыл бұрын
Literally any blackjack is
@igorgerlovin3185
@igorgerlovin3185 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry Colin, but your statement about 100% risk of ruin is BULLSHIT. That implies that there is a ZERO chance of beating it. If a blackjack game is beatable, like the 6:5 single deck, its risk of ruin is by definition NOT 100%. It may be high, but its NEVER 100%.
@ligafftheindifferent3495
@ligafftheindifferent3495 3 жыл бұрын
Risk of ruin assumes you play forever. All games with any house advantage have a risk of ruin = 100%
@chuckschillingvideos
@chuckschillingvideos 3 жыл бұрын
It's only a scam if you deceive the player. No one is forced to play at any casino. If you don't like the rules at a casino, walk away. See how easy that is?
@russlehman2070
@russlehman2070 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely right. 6:5 blackjack has a significantly smaller house edge than double zero roulette, and similar to a lot of other table games. It's really no more a scam than a lot of other casino games with similar house advantage. But if you're looking for a game where you can actually get an edge, you need to look elsewhere. There are really only two rational approacehs to gambling: Advantage play, or gambling as entertainment. In the latter, you accept that the house has an edge, and accept that as a cost of entertainment, and of course you budget that entertainment expense. Only you can decide if the entertainment is worth the expense.
@kenstevens7855
@kenstevens7855 10 ай бұрын
@@russlehman2070 I agree. A lot of people just assume they are going to lose the money anyways, so as long as they are having fun it doesn't matter.
@Gutitfool
@Gutitfool 5 ай бұрын
What a scam
@jimkline746
@jimkline746 3 жыл бұрын
For those who say people are being “scammed” by 6:5 are stupid. Being scammed consists of the people not being aware of the rules. Being scammed is giving a homeless a $100 later to see him jump into his Mercedes Benz driving to his condo.
@kevinchung564
@kevinchung564 3 жыл бұрын
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