GROUND POUNDER 2

[@varnellhopkinsiii6863]

I have always thought that the old-school buttpacks were a better design than the new issue MOLLE waistpacks that replaced them.

[@earlgeorge7573]

I have one in the back of my jeep. about 6 bottled waters and some beef jerkey in it.

[@griffcrammond6640]

I am really enjoying the Ground Pounder series. Simple and to the point.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

thanks more to come

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

here is a quick video on the m-1961 buttpack for use as a haversack for camping in the woods ..hope you enjoy it

[@FERALDOG4]

I thought I was the only one who carried the buttpack as a haversack! I’ve had three haha. Very cool to see this!

[@jonacheson]

I have a reproduction of the older pack/sack, and until I watched your video, I didn't realise it had a gusset. Sweet! The gusset was tucked in, and I thought it was just a liner. Thank you, Blackie!

[@barrycartner3855]

I use both a 1956 and 1961 buttpack. The latter required repairs much like your's. I was fortunate enough to fund a VE era worn fatigue shirt that I removed the sleeves and made patches with. I use the majority of the sleeve to fashion a new liner, applied sewing fabric glue, the hand sewed the material to the seams of bag interior. The glue was also applied near the holes to help reduce further loss of material. It worked so well that I water "proofed" the new liner for added protection. The visible exterior holes add character, but the new liner improves its use.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

good use of resources

[@gijr2003]

A M1936 musette bag would make a great haversack too. But an original would be too old and cost too much, so repo can be had. I have an original that some family member brought back from WW2. Wore it as a backpack when I was five years old, original WW2 canteen too.

[@nomadmarauder-dw9re]

The 3 day training pack is designed to use with the LBV 88. The D ring slips over the D ring on the rear panel and the strap secures everything together. The back secures to the belt with the keeper snaps or Alice clips. The whole system was short lived, but they kept the butt pack going. I think the whole system was the IIFV. The CFP 90 and patrol pack completed it.

[@stevenkuntryjones690]

I been doing that for years, my old gear still smells like Vietnam, lol 😆. I got away from my old military gear for a long time and just recently decided there was nothing better so I have went back to using it. Glad there is still someone besides me teaching the old grunt life in the woods. People need to listen before we all gone and take all this knowledge with us. Keep teaching the real life.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

very true there was a lot of hard won knowledge of camping with that gear

[@stevenkuntryjones690]

@@BLACKIETHOMAS camping with them old soldiers was a lot of survival knowledge to be learned

[@randyrobbins7106]

Really enjoying the series. Thank you for doing them and sharing your knowledge. Can't wait to see more.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

More to come!

[@70TheProfessor]

I really like the canvas butt pack. Normally used as a day rig with the belt and H-suspenders, there was a sleeping bag strap that allowed the bag to hang from loops on the shoulders. With my tent slung underneath, I could turn the pack into an overnight rig, as you describe.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

yep i may visit that rig in a upcoming video

[@barrycartner3855]

Same rig I use

[@gijr2003]

The M1956 LBE had a butt pack adaptor, that allowed the butt pack to be used as a backpack. I used a M1956 butt pack on belt and a M1961 butt pack with adaptor. The M1967 LBE H-suspenders had hooks on back yoke to attach butt pack or poncho carrier. Only have one, wish I had bought more when they were cheap.

[@randyjohnson4614]

I absolutely love military surplus

[@daveedwards6567]

Very interesting video thanks blacky see you in your next video

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

Thanks for watching!

[@thaddeusmikolajczyk4518]

Very good info I have been using my lbe harness with butt pack and Ranger Blanket roll for over nite trips and it has served me well.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

they do well for that

[@knifelore1647]

I have almost all my old military gear, an the butt pack, poncho and liner are still som of my favorites

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

awesome i love my old stuff it has served me well for a long time

[@michaelfitzell2741]

The old G.I. packboard is very useful for heavier loads. I'm enjoying the Ground Pounder Series. I'm looking forward to the next ones.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

Glad you like them!

[@lanaholmes7098]

Man how I wish I had that new one... all the surplus stores that was around my area long gone.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

kaufmans military surplus samson alabama 334 -898-1770 tell them blackie sent ya and what you are looking for they will hand select it for ya

[@chaffcutter58.]

Mate you get it right, the bumpack was the best idea we stole off the Germans,also hang tw0 extra water bottles on each side,with our larger ammo pouches full it evened it out, love your stuff.

[@petershea3131]

Thanks for the spike ascender inquiry 🙂

[@1bobbydavis]

Enjoying the content. Thanks

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

Glad to hear it!

[@kalstreksandtrails7606]

Today I went to an antique store and they had some army surplus gear. One of the things they had and that I bought was a L.B.E. has the straps the butt pack, some smaller pouches and a canteen. I am hoping tomorrow that I can get out into the woods and play with the L.B.E. Awesome video my friend

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

good score

[@snappers_antique_firearms]

Love that smell of old army surplus.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

i know its a unique smell

[@jenniferbauman4802]

Great video good stuff. The second but pack went to the vest . I think. Well God bless. From Glenn CATT in Massachusetts.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

Right on

[@quinntheeskimooutdoors6234]

Good demo Blackie. I wore the canvass butt pack for many years with my LBR. Used it for many things, also I always had a poncho on top of it. Now I have a camo butt pack ready to deploy (my knees are not ready to deploy). Thanks and take care.

[@choirboyzcutleryoutdoors]

OUTSTANDING VIDEO MY FRIEND!!! Now gotta get me one of these.... I'll be durn if you ain't cost me some money Blackie 😂😂

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

lol sorry

[@je710817]

There is no skool like old skool👍🏾👊🏽

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

lol

[@MichaelR58]

Blackie , good series and tips , thanks for sharing ,God bless !

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

My pleasure

[@aarondalton2223]

I love your brass revolver videos Blackie! I'd love to see you shoot it.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

i will one day soon

[@guyman4234]

I have had the same butt pack for 50 years. It stands the test of time.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

they sure do

[@davidleasure9138]

Great series Blackie. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

My pleasure!

[@TinyTitan50]

Great stuff Blackie!!

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

thanks

[@timlacy2284]

Blackie , WOW A Great Video and Information . LBE gear or WEB gear , it's great gear and will last a long time. Ground Pounder series is Awesome , I like all your series that you are doing . Thanks Again for you sharing your time and knowledge passing on the knowledge . You Are The Master Woodsman and Buschcrafter . Tim L.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@oldminer5387]

Thank you for sharing Blackie. In my youth the canvass butt pack is what my dad got me along with a belt, canteen with cup and cover and poncho from the local surplus store before sending me off to 4 weeks of summer camp. I still have one of the canvas packs and cherish it today.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

i help a lot of people learn to camp with old surplus it was good gear and a 25 dollar investment would get you enough gear for a weekend campout

[@leonstancliff7218]

From a veteran of the era. The butt pack was a combat day pack. Mostly a one day patrol bag. Personal gear was not planned as contents. The only "overnighters" it saw were night patrols and ambushes. No sleep or shelter were going to be in the mission normally. It would hold three stripped out C-rat packs and 5 boxes of ammo. Less food and more ammo was common. You would not have time to eat anyway. Underneath was the poncho roll. A "space blanket" was not common back then and a woogie was not standard issue since you would not be sleeping on patrol. On the "Yoke" of the suspenders we hung the E-tool, square in the middle of our back. Under the straps of the suspenders we placed a pair of GI socks on each side under a ranger band. The butt pack was always used with the pistol belt and suspenders. The belt would hold 2 canteens and 4 ammo pouches. On the front would be a .45 ammo pouch if you had a .45. On the front suspender straps was your aid kit and compass pouch, and probably a pace cord.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

thank you for your service

[@smoothvern165]

I love this series! Really looking forward to more!

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

more to come

[@Mississippi72]

Cool,im gonna modified my duffle bag to my regular aluminum back pack frame

[@garywhelansr5602]

Good information Blackie on the butt packs. Got a few of them from the 70s. Great possible bags for black powder hunts 👍

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

yep they hold every ya need on those hunts

[@rafterL78]

Good stuff, enjoying this series. I sure wish there was a link to the next in the series. YT has random ones cued up but I don't want to miss any.

[@TripleAAA53]

Thx Blackie !!! ALWAYS informational !!

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

Any time!

[@kxd2591]

The only time I ever used one of these (canvas, M56 pattern) was in Army Basic and Infantry AIT (Advanced Individual Training). If I remember correctly, unless we were bivouacking, we only carried the mess kit and an extra pair of socks. The fork, knife, and spoon were wrapped in the socks and then placed inside the mess kit. When bivouacking in Basic, we carried a shelter half, stakes, and one of the take down tent poles wrapped into a roll and slung under the bottom. Whether or not we carried a rubber maid in the roll, I don't remember. Nor do I remember carrying a blanket. When bivouacking in AIT, and there was a lot of it on the various ranges, we used squad tents with cots and sleeping bags. Once I got to Vietnam it was all ALICE pack. By the way, having lived under my boonie so long while in the field, I have a special place in my heart for hats, and am constantly on the lookout for the "perfect hat". I know, a fantasy. May I ask, is the hat you use still in production? It appears to be wool, which seems on the face of it a strange choice for south Alabama. I would have thought a canvas hat would have been your choosing. But hats are like knives, when you use it you'll know. Enjoyed the video, I really enjoy them. And thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

this hat is a boy scouts exploriers scout master hat it is crushable wool felt and mine has served me since 1993 or 94 i have had people ask and they say they found one thru the boy scouts

[@boomshanka8743]

Great series Blackie, thank you.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

My pleasure!

[@michaeljones5395]

I still have my Butt Pack that I bought from Clothing Sales and used it for about 17- years over my 24 military career. I turned in my issued one when I retired. I always had a purchased set of LBE for "Dress Up" Times such as Change of Command and parades, etc. It was the perfect size to keep your rain gear and other items at the ready when out in the field.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

i knew guys who had field gear and ""dress gear"" the field gear was dirty and well used the dress gear was new clean and stayed in the house until they needed to do a inspection

[@tdgdbs1]

The new junks issued to us now won't hold up to real use; but they are sure lighter.

[@user-he6nj1zv9f]

Just the kit I have been looking for to put on my canteen belt for day hikes.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

it will serve well and a canteen belt carrier will hook to the side of a butt pack

[@riverjordan2637]

1st, keep up the great work Blackie

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

congrats ! and i will do my best

[@thethan302]

I got one of those canvas sweedish gas mask bags that were really popular a few years ago. it's the same size/shape as the canvas one you show, but it doesn't have the features that bag has, no pass throughs or extra straps to strap or tie things to no liner. But it's fine bush crafting purposes and holds a surprising amount of stuff. I modified the straps to make it more of a shoulder bag and it works great.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

i have seen those and almost bought one my self

[@stefan6316]

Looking forward for more! Hard to wait for next sunday. And I'm excited about your upcoming video on Friday too! It's just the right series for me. Please teach us how to sleep outside with minimal gear! Can't wait to learn more from you. I'm so thankful that you do this series! Please keep on doing what you're doing. You became one if my idols in Bushcraft long time ago! And now I'm totally excited about this series. Cheers from Germany!

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

thank you very much i will be going out to camp this week we will have temps in the 20'F here

[@stefan6316]

@@BLACKIETHOMAS Uh, will be a pleasure to see how you deal with it! I bet it will be great! Looking forward for it! Cheers!

[@couchcamperTM]

@@BLACKIETHOMAS see, Germany loves you. and rightly so :-) 20° ? brrrr^^

[@baronedipiemonte3990]

My old 91 issue woodland camo butt-pack is the exact same as yours, but I didn't cut my straps. It's still attached to my web belt and the LC2 harness. Enjoyed your video as always !!!

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

Thanks for the info!

[@jeffrichards5106]

Great series Blackie. I like your canvas Vietnam buttpack, I don't recall seeing one of those. I have the modern nylon woodland camo one. Never thought of using it as a haversack. I have mine attached to the GI harness and web belt. Thanks for the video, look forward to the next! 👍⛺

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

Sounds great!

[@tomritter493]

Yup my kit for yrs was the lbe . With the ammo pouches which takes some room out of the butt pack .for a weekend 100 percent will work .and It works great for haversack fishing pouch hunting pouch .oh we would put a garbage bag cross the bottom up over top top of equip. Kept it pretty dry my new bp was short strapped too ill tell ya man two of the new ones you could go for a week no sweat .coupled with a sustainment pouch you styleing

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

thanks brother

[@Roller822]

Thanks Blackie

[@garyprice8330]

I like the dark green camo bag for a game bag

[@bobweaver1738]

My butt-pack was right between those two, the pattern was just like the canvas one but everything was nylon OD green. Thanks for an interesting video, I like these subjects and not many talk about the differences is surplus gear from different eras and how they evolved.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

Thanks for sharing!

[@terrancecoard388]

I can smell the "adventure" in that old pack. Looking it up right now...love a pack without zippers.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

yep less to go wrong

[@varnellhopkinsiii6863]

I use the current sustainment pouches in a similar manner, but the sustainment pouches doesn't have the extra attachment points on the outside and not as much interior room. The waist pack does similar but also less space.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

yep the modern has a diffrent mind set and the gear reflects this much of this old gear does well for camping

[@varnellhopkinsiii6863]

@@BLACKIETHOMAS agreed. A lot of the new gear is not conducive to actual bushcraft use. Modern military seems more focused on using supplies vs self-sustainment in the field.

[@GryphonIndustrial]

Nice M1961 butt pack. I carry one with a GP strap as well. Very handy and isn’t as loud as the M81 woodland LBV ones.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

true the old green is better for me at least

[@OhhKheNhaYhu]

Best designed pack.

[@stevenkuntryjones690]

You in Alabama, I'm in Louisiana, we got about the same climate. Might have to camp together one day and chat around the fire

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

I PUT ON A GATHERING AT GENEVA STATE FOREST IN SOUTH CENTRAL ALABAMA THIS YR IT WILL BE APRIL 6-10

[@michaelmes1182]

This series are good thanks.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@charlesmartin6459]

I was thinking of taking two backpacks connecting them with the Alice clips but I'm not sure what is the best way to carry them if I do them that way

[@lewisward4359]

Thanks. Used one of those for EDC and a small hunting haversack when I hunted with my inline muzzleloader. Still have one. Didn't know the details about the wp liner.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

thanks for watching

[@desertratedc9596]

Funny I didn't think about it in your blackbird haversack video. I mentioned I have my aloce pack that typically stays at camp but I work in layers and also use the Y-harness alice system with a field pack like yours instead of the smaller buttpack so I guess I really use that field pack on my belt and harness as my haversack. I keep a bit of food and plastic ziplocks for gathering material in it along with my poncho and woobie tied to the bottom. My philosophy in working in layers has always been each layer I can survive if the trip goes bad but it may just be a little harder as I lose layers.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

sound wisdom

[@margaretadler6162]

Good video! I have had both types of butt packs but I prefer the nylon because of their water repellant properties! Thank again for this great series! ATB, Sam Adler from Vietnam

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

thanks for watching

[@StevenJarrett1961]

You could waterproof that or anything that will hold water with naptha and 100% clear silicone. I watched a video of this and he made a sheet waterproof. Take a bucket, put a plastic bag in it, pour 1 qt of naptha in it, then add the tube of clear silicone. Knead the bag to get the silicone to completely dissolved, then dip whatever you want to waterproof in this. Make sure you leave no dry spots anywhere. Wrong it out to ensure it’s all wet, they dry outside for 24 hours. The video used a sheet to make a waterproof tarp. Thought this could really come in handy.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

yep saw that video thanks for posting

[@savageater57]

Still using my old canvas butt pack as a haversack/hunting bag.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

i love the old canvas ones they smell like adventure

[@outdoorvideoswithbrad]

I configured a lot of my Alice and molle gear together like for instance a Alice frame to a modern backpack, but I feel dumb I never thought about the “haversack butt pack” and I got actual Vietnam US ones too, but I do got actual Haversacks tho, so I guess that’s why I didn’t think of it haha

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

they can serve very well

[@hiramhaji7813]

Great video

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

thank you

[@Ozarkwonderer]

I love my old butt packs. I have a couple of them and used one as a haversack

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

they serve really well

[@stevenladrig9592]

Why can you just good idea to take a backpack and use it as a I carry food and what cause I need and what my hammock and a blanket and go go for a couple days thank you

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

true that is a good way to do it as well

[@Bill23799]

Did they used to call these small Buttpacks Musette bags? My hero, John Roarke, carried a Musette bag filled with extra mags for his Detonics Combat Master as well as other things.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

musette bag was a small cargo bag of ww2 fame but this butt pack serves the same function

[@garylyons844]

the bottom straps on the new butpack should be as long as the ones on the older one that are there for the same reason to keep your poncho roll ,containing the poncho and the poncho liner

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

yep i think this one had the straps cut short before i got it

[@1bobbydavis]

Where can I find Blackbird brand products? I'm interested in taking a closer look at the Blackbird Haversack?

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

i sell them

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

blackbird outdoors is my brand so to speak

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

you can email me at [e-mail] if you would like to buy one

[@1bobbydavis]

@@BLACKIETHOMAS Do you have a web page with your products?

[@robwendt7006]

I use a finnish gas mask bag as my haversack.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

those are a good choice

[@Bill23799]

Hey Blackie, would a Civil War soldier have called that Haversack his " Possibles Bag " ?

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

yes same bag just it was called a seperate name over time

[@sacwriter7400]

Blackie, when making an improv Roycroft frame with one of those buttpacks, could you just leave a couple of branch stubs on the bottom of the vertical sticks to act as hooks? Or would end up digging into your back? (thinking of getting one of those packs, haven't done it yet or I would have already tried this hack myself )

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

they will dig in unless they are pointed well away from you

[@profetarmageddon]

Now why the heck did I think you were gonna talk about boots

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

cause i had mentioned i will do one talking of boots in the future

[@lj2026]

I don't have any surplus stores around me u know any I can go online and find em

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

kaufmans army surplus samson alabama 1-334-898-1770

[@CalvinFischer]

The 97 in that number shows the contract date of 1997 so it was made 1997 or later.

[@CreachterZ]

Hey there, Blackie. I’m still trying to throw you my money on your haversack. What is the current status?

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

i have a few left in stock

[@deltonbray8880]

Knowledge isn't knowledge unless it is shared.

[@lj2026]

Hey how much is the newer pack

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

i have found them on surplus for 10 or 20 bucks depending

[@stevemccallum6429]

Can’t you go around your waist with the strap and carry on your waist

[@KenGray]

Seriously, you should have that cordage in every video showing a new use of it. It could be your 'Wha' choo ta'kin' 'bout Willis?'!

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

lol i got lots of ideas to try with that

[@shastaham7630]

And herein we have the justification for the purchase of two Blackbird haversacks.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

lol well if you really want two

[@shastaham7630]

@@BLACKIETHOMAS I already have - and use them. Different levels of use, but several redundancies. Matching soft shackles.

[@terryqueen3233]

I had one of those that I used for years when I wasn't having fun in the woods I used it when I surveyed. I love those things I do not know what happened to the one I had but I certainly would like to have another one. Blackie would you please sell me that old butt pack please I would be delighted to give you any amount of money you want for it. I've been in several Army Navy stores and Military outlets and still can't find one. I would be delighted to buy that one from you please please sell that to me. I hope you read this. Thank you Blackie.

[@bigracer3867]

Carry squirrels and rabbits in mine!

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

makes a good game bag

[@michaelbrunner6654]

Great old pack you don't see no more

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

i can remember when the surplus places had huge piles of them not so much these days

[@michaelbrunner6654]

@@BLACKIETHOMAS I can to I miss them days and prices.

[@linthicum75]

Why don’t you ever film a over nighter

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

i have its just been awhile

[@timmatherly5080]

It's coRdura.

[@dalevodden1359]

No I get it straight if you were in the military they issued you a pistol belt that butt pack canteen if you weren't in the military that is a butt pack not a habersack and if you have a canteen with a wire handle on the cup that's not a canteen cup it's a piece of junk canteen cup has the pool under handle it's a lot more stable than that butterfly handle they came out with oh and everything hooked to the belt the pistol belt that was issued to you the canteen the butt pack and it came with a set of shoulder straps not that shoulder strap it was a either h harness or wire harness shoulder straps it that hooked to the belt in the butt pack get it straight

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

pretty much i learned how to lock my butterfly handles together so they are a lot better but i still prefer the old solid handle

[@johnhoward3271]

You will be missed if something happens to you

[@gfp9336]

murica

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

yep

[@OlmanEg]

Where is the ground pounder part? This was nothing more than haversack options!👎

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

go look at the first one first we talk a but of gear then we go demo tricks like i did in the last one there is a method to my madness lol

[@scottsmith6571]

Still got he first haversack u an mt lutz recommended

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

awesome i still sell those a few times a yr