DOWN N DIRTY WOODSCRAFT COLEMAN STOVES

COLEMAN CAMPING STOVES HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR 70YRS. IN THIS VIDEO I TALK OF THE PROPER WAY TO LIGHT A COLEMAN STOVE AND MANY POINTS ON SAFETY. AT A CANOE CAMPING CAR CAMPING.OR ATV CAMPING THE SIZE AND WEIGHT OF THE STOVE IS NOT A PROBLEM..ITS A GREAT EASY WAY TO COOK WHILE CAMPING.

[@mawilkinson1957]

Thanks for this video, and let me say that you explain it's use very well. I have had a Coleman Peak 1 Model 400 stove forever, and I have always loved it. Basically the same as yours except it had the 3 fold out feet exactly like the military model you showed us. It is built like a tank and has lasted me for decades. I want you all to know that you should always empty the stove completely when you are storing it for any extended period of time, because the insides and generator will gum up and leave a coating on the insides that will seriously affect it's performance. If you ever make this mistake, fill it completely with denatured alcohol, pump it up and actuate the fuel level and flame adjuster several times and let it sit for several hours. Turning the fuel level off of course. You could, at times, light it for very short period of time to burn out some of the plaque. Do this several times over the course of several hours. This will clean both of the needle valves that are the problem. When you are done, pour all of that denatured alcohol out into a glass container and you will see how much crap you have dissolved from the insides. You have now restored your stove to factory new condition, and I can just about guarantee it will perform like new. Don't forget to re-oil the gasket in the pump, and very loosely, or not at all, tighten the fuel cap. IMHO, do not store it tightened. Give the seal a chance to relax while it's stored. This works for lanterns too. I have the single mantle Peak 1 Model 222 lantern, which I absolutely love, for it's compact size for backpack camping. I made the mistake of leaving it full of fuel stored for maybe 2 years. It was so coated on the inside it would not work at all. The needle valves were completely plugged. I thought I would have to replace the generator, which is no longer available. The above technique restored it to new condition, and all without having to dismantle it. Sorry for the long post, but I thought it would help all of you who's stoves and lanterns are not working as they should.

[@blackoracle69]

yep fuel will dry up and clog everything often when i have found these stoves at garage sales it was because it was left with fuel over a long time and gummed up..pick them up cheap give a good clean and they roar back to life

[@cillaloves2fish688]

Thank you Mark!! Good to know...

[@mawilkinson1957]

@@cillaloves2fish688 Your quite welcome. I have learned the hard way.

[@scribeofalara6259]

I love this channel. You have the charm of early youtube that I am too young to really remember. And, all your content shows a wealth of knowledge. I just really appreciate it.

[@blackoracle69]

Wow, thank you!

[@michaelbrunner6654]

Had one like that from the 70's. I used that thing for years. Wish I still had it.

[@blackoracle69]

good news they are still around..often at yard sales

[@Otis010707]

Another informative video! Having been a Boy Scout in the 70's I was exposed to lot's of Coleman and Eureka equipment. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge! Bill Doyle in NJ

[@krishoogstraat6866]

I grew up with my Dad and I using the double burner model. This is the best explanation for how to use these stoves I have ever seen. I learned a lot from this video. Thanks Blackie !!!!! Very well done!

[@blackoracle69]

Glad it was helpful!..i have found if you understand how it works..it is a lot easier to trouble shoot when it goes wrong..often they over pump when its already a hot day and the tank dont need it and then raw fuel fills that firberglass bowl and runs over..which can be a very bad thing

[@aggyMI]

Love these older style stoves, buy once, built for life!

[@blackoracle69]

they are great for a at home emergency box..for when power out for days sort of thing

[@TinyTitan50]

I’ve got one of these stoves (mine is duel fuel) and this is the best explanation I’ve seen. Will re-watch and practice what you’ve said.

[@blackoracle69]

Glad it was helpful!

[@cillaloves2fish688]

I definitely agree!! Blackie's an awesome teacher!

[@knightingalesaid]

Great video.

[@w.c.6678]

I'm guessing you did some Service training troops somewhere. Thanks for a great, informative, and SAFE video. God Bless! Watch your 6.

[@hiramhaji7813]

Great job blackie

[@jeffrichards5106]

Nice older Coleman stove you have there Blackie. I have one like it but it's silver in color. Also have the 2 burner model. Thanks for explaining how to work it properly. Haven't used my gas stoves in years. I thought they were finicky and I had faulty stoves. Now I know it was user error. I have a Coleman Northstar gas lantern that I've been using for over 20 years that I love. I Bring it on all my car camping trips. Never seen the World War 2 Coleman before. Didn't know about them. Really neat! Thanks! for the knowledge.

[@blackoracle69]

glad you liked it

[@johnnottahcal5725]

I knew you’d help me decide. I was looking for one more fairly portable, simple stove for skillet cooking and alittle heat control when wood can’t be the option but did not need pressurized bottles. Why not, I’ve been using pump-up coleman 2 burners and lanterns for years.

[@drcsep]

I raised with Coleman products. Great video

[@blackoracle69]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@Unwrapasmile]

Awesome video very informative thanks for sharing

[@blackoracle69]

Thanks for watching

[@Woodchuckinthesouth]

HA! shout out to the hunter! another great video, Blackie. many thanks.

[@blackoracle69]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@anthonyyurt7260]

I grew up around a couple of the GI stoves and then bought a dual fuel in my teens. They're all still burning strong. Love those little stoves!

[@blackoracle69]

they last forever

[@Stoney_AKA_James]

Good video Blackie Coleman also makes Dual Fuel stoves and lanterns, which use coleman fuel AND unleaded gasoline! I have a .5 gallon can to refill them plus larger cans for storage, that I refill at beginning of hurricane season and then late fall. Any fuel not used goes into my truck! I've used them for years, great products!

[@oldminer5387]

Great educational video Blackie. I have a Coleman stove like yours and also a two burner. For day hikes or backpacking I use a brass Seva stove. Good topic, thank's for sharing.

[@blackoracle69]

seva is a good stove i used one back in the 80's as a backpack stove

[@waynewatters9283]

I was a tanker and we had one for each tank. We never used it because it was too difficult to get gasoline for them because our equipment mostly used diesel fuel and the vehicles that used gasoline seldom would give up their extra supply. Gasoline stored on the outside of a tank in a fuel can makes a great Molotov cocktail. I have one like the one demonstrated that I have used since 1981.

[@blackoracle69]

yep it can be a challenge to find fuel in that setting

[@williampollock1274]

For camping? Shoot I would use a Coleman stove just for regular cooking when I was a kid.

[@blackoracle69]

i kept one in my truck for yrs to heat up lunch in the days before microwaves

[@raulbarboza9856]

Thanks for sharing. 👍🏽👊🏽

[@blackoracle69]

You bet

[@margaretadler6162]

Great simplicity! Thanks Blackie ATB Sam Adler

[@blackoracle69]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@spfb]

Great job on explaining how to use and avoid a fire!! Alot of people I think are scared of using the gas model for this reason! They go with the propane model. The gas model will last Alot longer, in burn time!

[@blackoracle69]

yes it will..and i agree it does seem wrong to use gas and have it pass a tube of fuel thru the flame..but hey if it works

[@robbevington1754]

good work

[@blackoracle69]

Thanks

[@robertkoontz7865]

Another great lesson Blackie, Another reason to store/prep. Alcohol. I might of commented on a side arm drawing vid. Sorry for that. Keep on Truckin.

[@blackoracle69]

no prob..safe journeys

[@chiefbiglew]

i have that same stove its my favorite. you can turn it way down for a simmer. i have several .the new duelfuel stoves like it wont simmer very well great for boiling.i love my colemans .the 503 mod is a great stove you can find them on ebay. thx blackie.

[@blackoracle69]

your welcome..i had a duel fuel and like you ti was kinda finicky in the simmer ..i like mine better

[@terrancecoard388]

They can present a problem in cold temperatures. Other than that it worked great when I camped in Arizona. Very informative video because as always I learned something from you.

[@blackoracle69]

Great point! i dont have that issue of deep cold temps in alabama low teens is about it..but i know of people who have sat and held the tank of the stove against them to warm it up first in bitter cold

[@Thereal111t]

The current small stoves are either the msr xgk ex or a coleman 550b. Why? They run jp8. (Kerosene) it’s all about logistics... in the mid 80’s the transition to a single fuel military began. The reason was to simplify supply logistics.

[@blackoracle69]

true..logistics is a big thing when your dealing with a large group

[@trynsurviven2440]

I have an old single burner, a double and triple burner Coleman stove. They work great. The double burner I took the fuel tank off and converted to propane.

[@blackoracle69]

nice

[@buckshot4428]

Back around 66 or 67 I purchased a Coleman 502 which I used to make my hot tea while hunting. There was an older man at the camp who liked to pull a cork. He wanted that stove, but I would not sell it to him as I worked hard to pay for it. Later on I guess the kids got hold of it and it went away, but it was a good stove.

[@blackoracle69]

IF TAKEN CARE OF THEY WILL LAST FOR A VERY LONG TIME..SAFE JOURNEYS

[@MrDwanehoward]

Thanks B.

[@blackoracle69]

Any time!

[@jerrylance9351]

mt man here do one vid on carrying that in your backpacks👍👍

[@blackoracle69]

Will do..for canoe trips..or short hikes..its fine..for long hikes i just use a campfire..

[@martinlampron8598]

Its the one we use in canadian force. Same idea for bigger stove ans lantern. Always fuel outside

[@blackoracle69]

very true..and hello to canada

[@aigleperseverant]

FYI, model 508 isn't made anymore and new single-burner Coleman stoves nowadays don't have the needle valve and second-lever setup. It's actually an eccentric cam that pushes the stem of a tire-type Schrader valve. Thus, unlike the 508 you have, an additional lever isn't needed to adjust simmering. Great video nonetheless !!

[@blackoracle69]

thanks..

[@stevenmc56]

I like the colmen stoves you got to be careful they grow legs and walk away I have bought five of them and still have none!

[@blackoracle69]

i hear ya..they gotta be watched close..wife and i were at a campground once and we were asleep in tent..when i heard a set of foot steps..coming..my 2 burner was up and walking across the campground to join the drunks at their camp cook bacon..but when i got dressed and walked over..they told me they had found my wantering stove and kept it safe for me..lol

[@Hoonozit]

I have a Coleman stove around here somewhere. I can't recall the model number, may be #504 ? It works great. I picked it up from the Salvation Army for 99 cents. Thanks for the instructions, I had to fiddle with mine to get it going, now I know more for next time.

[@blackoracle69]

usually parts can be had ....and its cheap to totally rebuild all seals and valves

[@joeyhardin1288]

Great video, hey Blackie, do you have video on Coleman Catalytic Heaters?

[@blackoracle69]

I don't i have used them a few times ..i may got one of those up i do have a old military type of coleman lantern i will be doing one day

[@LizzyTexBorden]

I have one of those stoves... kind of. It is the dual fuel stove. Unfortunately there is no fine tune to it. All there is is the little red handle on/off valve. The thing is on, or off. Simmer? Nope... I have used it a lot and you do for the most part learn to work with it, but I wish mine were like yours.

[@blackoracle69]

the duel fuel had that prob ...how they got it to be dual fuel was make the needle in it bigger..to be less clog from burning pump gas. this left it less adjustable..i had one myself and sold it and went back to this stove.

[@levicaddell1077]

Good video.... but I never liked Coleman stoves - too complicated. Back in the 60's i bought a Swedish gas stove made by Sevia for backpacking. It ran on "white" gas also called unleaded gas :-) . It was made of all brass. It is still as good as new. Looks used but works fine. Just saying... later...

[@Thereal111t]

There was a time that the svea123 and optimus 8r were the most popular stoves among Appalachian trail thru hikers. The 123 was also a favorite of Colin fletcher the famous writer and backpacker. He carried one on his famous solo hike of the Grand Canyon. The reason for this was the extreme simplicity and reliability.

[@levicaddell6861]

Yep! Mine was and is a good stove. It is light weight, and last forever. If I needed a gas stove it was what I carried. I had a homemade alochol stove for heating coffee, tea, etc. but for cooking therre was my swea which could eve handle a loager pot. BTW: I have seen those Coleman Stoves blow up - not often but they do. Because they are so heavy they are only really good for car camping, etc. later..........

[@blackoracle69]

sevias are good as well..i used one for backpacking..the coleman to me is a camp stove truck / car camping basecamp sort of thing

[@slingshotwarrrior8105]

The army had a good idea!

[@blackoracle69]

yep..and i know when the war ended and those stoves came home they saw lots of use in hunting camps

[@S0ngSm1th]

Blackie, On Your Coleman, is it regular gas? Or Naptha fuel?

[@blackoracle69]

white gas ( camp fuel) its just gas with out the additives they put in the fuel ya get at the gas pump for cars

[@jerrystark3587]

Do you use standard gasoline or white gas for your Coleman stove?

[@blackoracle69]

Both! white gas is prefered..but in a pinch i will use auto gas

[@DenverLoveless]

I have two 533's 1990 and 1991, still going strong. Hint: It's been my experience that if your getting all that yellow flame in the beginning, and have to pump 60 times to get the pressure you want, the generator needs cleaned or replaced. It's getting clogged. Not hard to clean. Just a little tedious.

[@blackoracle69]

thanks i look into it

[@DenverLoveless]

@@blackoracle69 Just be real careful with that wire in there when you take it out. 0000 steel wool it in one direction. Try to keep its shape best you can. It goes in a separate tube inside just for the wire inside the tube. Blow some Carb cleaner through the tube, and pipe cleaner it a couple times letting it sit a few minutes in between should do the trick.

[@samsanfratello7549]

Coleman fuel is expensive, are there any substitutes?

[@blackoracle69]

gas for the car..but it will have lots of modern additives in it and will clog the system after a time..and need to be fully taken down and cleaned

[@billp5292]

If a platoon sergeant saw someone smoking he would go off on that individual. Much less a fire. You can see a cigarette in the dark for a long way.

[@blackoracle69]

very true.. and even more so today..with modern thermal gear ya just cant do anything

[@billp5292]

@@blackoracle69 with the new gear the troops should not get to cold. The old gear was rough I've have had a few cold days in south Korea