GROUND POUNDER: MY TOP ALICE PACK MODS AND HACKS

THE U.S.ARMY COMBAT RUCKSACK COMMON CALLED THE ALICE PACK WAS USED FOR MANY YRS AS THE STANDARD ISSUE FOR COMBAT OPERATIONS. I CARRED THIS MODEL OF RUCKSACK FOR MANY YRS AS A BUSHCRAFT /WOODSCRAFT CAMPING RUCKSACK. THE PACK AND FRAME CAN SERVE WELL FOR OUTDOOR ADVENTURES BUT IT HAS SEVERAL WEAKNESS THEY SHOULD BE ADDRESSED. IN THIS VIDEO IWILL SHARE MANY OF THE TIPS TRICKS AND HACKS THAT I LEARNED WHILE CARRYING THIS DESIGN .
FIRST WE WILL TALK OF THE IDEA THE ARMY HAD FOR ITS USE AND THEN WE WILL REMOVE THE EXTRA PARTS OF THE RUCKSACK THET WERE A GOOD IDEA FOR MILITARY USE BUT ARE NOT A GOOD IDEA FOR CAMPING.
SECOND WE WILL CHANGE THE STRAPS TO A MORE MODEN USE AND ADD QUICK DETACH BUCKLES TO SPEED THE ENTRY TO THE PACK.
A CARRY HANDLE MOD WILL BE A GOOD HACK TO MAKE THE PACK EASIER TO GRAB AND USE ON THE RUN.
MANY OF THESE MODS WILL SERVE IN MODERN SURVIVAL TRAINING USE.IF YOU JUST WANTING TO USE A SURPLUS RUCKSACK THIS MAY BE THE MODS YOU WILL FIND MOST USEFUL.
I WILL TELL YOU HOW TO ADD WATERPROFF PROTECTION BOTH TO THE BAG ITSELF AND TO ADD A LINER TO PROTECT THE CAMPING GEAR FROM GETING WET IN EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS.
SURPLUS GEAR, VIETNAM SURPLUS, ALICEPACK MODS, ALICE PACK HACKS, 1980S WOODLAND PATERN CAMO ALICE PACK, ALICE PACK IMPROVEMENTS,

[@OtherThanIntendedPurpose]

I carried that ruck for 10 years in the ARMY, still have my LG ALICE. it is a hell of a pack. I was in 85-94. and none of our packs had any water resistance. most of us took an old poncho, and cut it down to be a bit bigger than the pack, and had someone ( most of us knew someone with a sewing machine) set bungie cord all the way around the outside edge. so it would very quickly pull over the pack, or be able to pull it back to get into it. as a trooper, we used the large ALICE ( it had 3 smaller pouches built in above the 3 big front pouches. that perfectly fit a can of spaghetti-o's ) the shelf was not so much for jerry cans, it was specifically designed to carry the PR-77 field radio set ( affectionately called a Prick-77) the ammo packs were not used with the ALICE, they were more of the WW11 packs that were a heavy canvass. I have lived out of my ALICE for months at a time, in $#!tholes you are glad you never went to. we also would run our field jacket liners through between the frame and the bag so it gave a little more lumbar support, but was quick to get to if we needed it. separate from the M65, the liner was a great sleeping extra warmth layer when using the woobie and poncho as a hasty sleep shelter. our Field jackets were held under the cinch straps, on top of the ruck, with the foam sleeping pad rolled under it. the modified poncho rain fly would fit over the top of the whole thing, and be secure around the frame. the down side to trimming the shoulder straps is that it makes it harder to adjust when you add more layers of winter uniform. with long johns, t-shirt, sweater, blouse, liner and field jacket all on, you are several inches bigger around than you are with just the t-shirt and blouse in the summer months. and the layers you use can change drastically between day and night. if you ever plan to run a full battle rattle load in that ruck, you are going to want to learn the "over the head" method of putting it on. swinging it wide like you did will actually cause twist stress injuries that can reduce your ability to do what needs to be done.

[@blackoracle69]

thank you for your service

[@waynehendrix4806]

Thank you for your service, from me as well. I had several items I purchased as "pack covers" that really resembled a tire cover. Any experience with those? Just a mushroom type bag with stretch cord around one diameter of the cover.

[@OtherThanIntendedPurpose]

@@waynehendrix4806 that is basically the same thing we had, but when I was in, they didn't have commercial ones, so we would just make them out of old ponchos. the issue poncho was very heavy duty, and worked really well. but I can see that commercial ones would be a lot easier.

[@ireland66613]

Thanks for your service I was in 85 to 89 I still have orginal alice pack.

[@OtherThanIntendedPurpose]

@@ireland66613 you too Brother. I have my large ALICE. things a tank.

[@gregsmall5939]

I used dayglow orange plastidip and sprayed the underside of the lid as a marker panel. Still had most of a can after 2 coats so, once it was dry I turned the pack inside out and sprayed the entire inside for a high contrast coating to make it easier to find stuff at night. The way Spec-Ops brand does their gear. Also use a DEI 1609 frame with improved ALICE straps and pad.

[@blackoracle69]

nice thanks for the information

[@CredibleHulk10]

Solid tip. 👌🏻

[@Flashahol]

I'm guilty of binge-watching Alice pack videos and you probably mentioned everything everyone else doesn't! I normally keep a beach-towel sized waxed tarp just behind my back so when I get to the (pebble) beach, it's easy as -tarp out -pack off -sitting on my butt. Packing out is just as easy as the last thing to grab is the tarp, then it just slides behind me.

[@blackoracle69]

thank for watching

[@intrusive_thoughts.]

Ha ha, same here, along with a bunch of Alice gear vids.

[@Edward2092009]

Use a contractor bag on the inside of the pack to keep your items dry. GREAT video as usual

[@blackoracle69]

Cool, thanks

[@DaneStolthed]

The secondary bucket pocket is to keep heavier items up towards the top of your pack which transfers the weight from your shoulders to your hips alleviating fatigue to your back. Additionally the strap closure cinches the weight closer to your back/center of gravity.

[@blackoracle69]

very true thanks for watching

[@Buckaroomedic]

The inner pocket was designed to hold the AN/PRC-77 radio.

[@nomadmarauder-dw9re]

AND. When in assault mode it's now your bucket. I think the infamous mini Alice is a solution in search of a problem. Luke on The Outdoor Gear Review is the only guy reviewing one. I've never had or used one, but the nylon ones can be mounted on the frame. The canvas ones can't.

[@smoothvern165]

That was an AWESOME video! You think so deeply into these things, and it shows. Amazing content!!

[@blackoracle69]

thank you very much

[@monoXcide01]

This is the definitive tutorial on how to get the most out of the Alice pack! You sir have earned a like and a sub!

[@phillipmerritt1428]

I’ve watched this three or for times. Every time I have find something really outstanding and very useful. Thanks 😮

[@razzo9610]

Blackie, just when I thought I saw all of the possible changes to the medium Alice, here you come with the best ones and it is easy to tell this comes from experience. Good video!

[@blackoracle69]

Thanks so much 😊

[@neitzsche5150]

Blackie, I never knew those things about my ALICE pack! Outstanding video. One of your best ever. The Fastex Buckle mod is ingenious.

[@blackoracle69]

Awesome, thank you!

[@jem6205]

This brought back many memories as a kid. I never saw a new pack and it seemed like everyone had their 2 cents to make a change to it for there needs. At least you didnt bring out the sewing needles and extra fabric to stitch on. This was a long video but by far the best explanation of the minimum stuff that people should do to that pack. FYI I dont have those packs anymore and I am okay with that. I cant believe that they are still around. Gave me a smile when the I first hit play and saw an almost new pack. But then those memories.... I cant tell you how many times I left the pack at home and just took a waterproof boat bag and a bedroll. Yeah, I looked like a poor boy, but I was comfortable and my stuff was dry. Many kids couldn't handle the full trips because of one thing or another and it always started with their packs. For me, I never wanted to leave. Keep up the great work!

[@blackoracle69]

thanks for watching

[@billgee8520]

I really appreciate your detail. When I first saw this video was over an hour-long, I almost avoided it. However, your detail and tips kept me hooked for the entire video. Thanks for the thorough presentation.

[@blackoracle69]

sorry it was so long but i wanted to really cover it and not just poof poof ok were done now lots of videos on youtube like that

[@edithofr.i.emeraldisle5042]

Great video....I don't even have an ALICE pak......can'yt believe I watched the whole thing! Loved the handle made of tube. Thanks. Sent over by Waypoint Survival....another cool dude!!

[@shadomane]

The medium alice is still my go to bushcraft pack and I have done many modifications to mine, including swapping the original shoulder and waist straps to molle II shoulder and waist straps. Yeah, the inside pocket must go. Great video. Subbed.

[@bushforme]

Hands down best video I've seen on the Alice pack! I did the molle 2 mods with quick release shoulder straps..had a full pack and decided to try the quick release..ALWAYS release belt first..ask me how I know this..haha..great stuff Blackie!

[@blackoracle69]

oh yea you will forget the chest strap and or waist belt one time then you will never forget lol

[@dannycurtis2591]

Blackie Thomas. Like you I was never issued an ALICE PACK. But shortly after I got out, I bought three, 2 large(with frames), and 1 medium with straps. Never carried the large, just used the frame with the medium. I can get anything and more in it!!! I've got a lot of modern hiking and camping gear, but unless my trek requires specialty equipment, I go with my ALICE pack, AND my old LBE belt, canteens, mag carriers, and all!!! I didn't have a K-Bar, but had a Camillus. I was a Navy Corpsman, assigned to various Marine combat units, so I carried pretty much what most of them carried(48 years ago, still holds a great edge)!! But back on topic, I never thought about making the permanent changes that you have. I'd just strap whatever didn't fit in the pack to the frame, roll up and tape excess straps, and used 1 gal zip-locks and large, heavy-duty construction type trash bags. This video has opened my eyes to the extra versatility of the ALICE system. AAMOF, it's the best video I've seen to date!!! Thanks, and keep 'em coming!!!

[@aleisterbroley900]

Did you take a nap? LOL

[@frankwright5528]

Great video! Informative and enjoyable as always. ALICE has earned her 'classic' status. Started (scouting) with the then ubiquitous WWII bring-backs. Much later embraced ALICE when she became available in the civilian world (70s). As you say: versatile. As part a small functional collection, I enjoy four minty ALICEs - three mediums of various vintages plus one fairly late large. What I don't have is a late cammo issue. As such, I readily admit to breaking into a rash when you first revealed those shears!! Alas... Congrats on another winner.

[@blackoracle69]

thanks for watching

[@Mr.Grumbdy]

Thank you for sharing your backwoods wisdom. I'm from the southwest and have lived in the desert all my life. We used to go on long camp trips on horseback 50 years ago. I just appreciate your knowledge so much.

[@blackoracle69]

That is awesome!

[@bjbackitis]

Great video! I've done most of these things already, but you gave me a few additional ideas to try,...

[@bobsaenz5840]

Good tips. I modified my Alice because I did not like all those straps dangling all the time. I removed the straps holding the small pockets and had velcro sewn into them. Now the flaps are sealed with velcro. I also used all your other mods. Thank you.

[@juliancuevas6728]

I just picked up a Large Alice pack and frame at my local flea market. Looking to make it into a fun project and build out a nice ruck. Thank you for the video, I'm going to be using some of those mods on my pack.

[@gw10758]

For whatever reason, I watch the ENTIRE thing in one sitting and learned a TON, even though I have used A.L.I.C.E packs for many years..... Thanks brother...!!

[@randygalichia]

Man Blackie im 50 years old and you told me stuff I never knew about that pack,wish I had that knowledge when I had mine yers back..very good video.

[@blackoracle69]

Glad to help

[@tonycummings5427]

Brother I joined your channel just recently and I've Larned more from you in that short time than I've Larned in years past. So glad I've found your channel. BUT I got to admit when you took the scissors to that beautiful woodland camo pack I about cried !! Lol !! But hey Brother it's your pack so no harm . I actually utilized the space behind my alice pack by installing a water blader system, it works great. Also I just use a pack cover for mine to keep it dry it does a pretty decent job. Thank you so much for your wisdom and noladge I look forward to learning more in the future.

[@blackoracle69]

lol i knew lots of people would react to it.. and i fully understand but for me if the gear dont work make it fit your needs

[@jr618]

Awesome video as always Blackie! That secondary radio pocket that you cut out, is great for a water bladder, for those that like to use them. The Camelbak Mil Spec Crux™ 3L Lumbar Reservoir fits perfect in that which I use if for. I have both the medium and large packs. For me personally, I dumped the original shoulder straps and hip belt and upgraded them with the Super Straps and Super Belt offered by Tactical Tailor. Those made a world of difference for me in comfort. Also, if you want some even more shoulder padding, the MOLLE 2 shoulder straps work great. Just look up the Hellcat ALICE Pack mods. I put a paracord wrap over the frame for a handle, but really like your fuel line mod better. I'm going to have to mess with that :) Thank you again for your awesome content sir!

[@blackoracle69]

thanks for watching

[@Milkman3572000]

Such valuable information that You shared.

[@jerrychance8401]

Great video Blackie! Brought back many memories. Appreciate you. Keep it up.

[@blackoracle69]

will do

[@PhDFRIZZBI]

Brother, I just started trialing this pack for work doing patrolling and various infantry jobs as a DI. Your explanation of modifications and maintenance of this pack has opened my eyes and I just want to say thanks for being a dude and sharing your knowledge. I hate the newer, heavier (and often weaker) gear we have today and still rock an LBE rig as it "just works" better for me than some highspeed plate carier. I will be sharing what you've shared here with my candidates. Hua, from Canada

[@jeffrichards5106]

Outstanding video Blackie! really appreciate you doing one on the Alice Pack. These mods I've never seen before. Didn't know about the back loop inside and running the cinch cord through the back loop and using that to also carry an axe, the fuel tube grab handle and main pack straps totally cutting them off and replacing them, never seen that before. Thank you, I knew I would learn something new from your video. I bought a shelf for my pack but never utilized it. I also would have my waist pad too tight and never thought about keeping it loose enough to wrap around you. And all the other great tips you gave. Thank you! 👍👍

[@blackoracle69]

glad to be of help

[@jeffrichards5106]

@@blackoracle69 Thanks again, take care.

[@karolynrice6267]

Excellent video! Very useful information even for old timer Army like me who has carried many of these and didn't know some the the tricks you showed here.

[@blackoracle69]

thank you for your service

[@seeknknowthetruth]

Great video and mods. I don't know how I missed this one. I've been following you for years. I can't wait to mod my Alice pack.👍🏽

[@benterwellen]

Blackie, This is an exceptional video on the Alice Pack, Ty for you sharing with us these Great tips…

[@blackoracle69]

Glad it was helpful!

[@zensempai7371]

great share of field wisdom , much appreciated

[@MrBearbait75]

Always heard about the alice packs but never understood how they work. Now I've had a graduate class on them. I may get one now that I understand how they can be used. Thank you, thank you, thank you!

[@blackoracle69]

Glad you like them!

[@earlelzy7243]

I have enjoyed your ground pounder series videos and have taken away some valuable information. Thank you.

[@blackoracle69]

Awesome, thank you!

[@kellydiver]

I carried one of these when I was first enlisted in the early 80s. The internal pocket was for a prc-77 radio. I now use it for a 3L hydration bag (which we didn’t have back in the day) instead of carrying canteens. On the waterproof clothing bag, ROLL the top down (like a modern dry bag), then wrap the cords around either side, pull them tight, and tie with a shoelace knot. That will keep the bag from leaking. 👍🏼

[@servicestuffs2549]

Informative! Thanks for the knowledge

[@davidr.8999]

Humped one of these for decades. Finally got rid of the large ALICE with frame and kept the medium without the frame as a quick grab and go. One thing I'd add is, on the inside of the frame (where you were putting the tent stakes) is a great place for a couple of three long bungie cords. I find those super helpful for getting quick shelter up in an unexpected rain event. Anyway, thanks for the video.

[@blackoracle69]

good advice thanks

[@ollvebranch]

Loved this. Thanks. Wrote notes. It’s on my list now.

[@davidleasure9138]

Awesome mods Blackie. Thanks for your knowledge and sharing. To me the bests parts were the grab handle and the cinch straps

[@blackoracle69]

Thanks for watching!

[@DamienNeverwinter]

Thanks for all the time and effort you took to share this with us Sir, God Bless you from UK

[@blackoracle69]

My pleasure

[@RatdogDRB]

I'm with you, most of my time in the woods has been for hunting. People get their cover scent, they camo up, then they stand still (probably sky lined) and the stupid straps waving in the breeze give them away. MOTION is what the animals key on after scent. I always find a way to roll/secure straps. Nice mods to that pack.

[@snappers_antique_firearms]

I love the Alice pack it's one of my favorite rucksacks I used it and the molle. I like the Alice pack much better. If the pack is on the ground and you're not wearing it. and you're worried about water getting in it from rain. we would use our ponchos and wrap it in a poncho. Great video. lol I learn things I didn't know about a ruck that I carried for years packed I carried for years

[@blackoracle69]

thanks for watching

[@darrellbesser3606]

Hey Blackie love the idea about the longer vertical straps. These will also allow you to cinch a MSS tighter to the bottom of the pack.

[@williamsisk3388]

I was in the Marine Corps during the switch from ALICE to MOLLE between the back and the pack frame was were we strapped down a shelter half. My ALICE frame has a reflector oven, just big enough for a pie pan or an MSR Alpine plate, tied to the frame.

[@dxradioman6351]

Excellent info Blackie. Thankyou ....

[@blackoracle69]

my pleasure

[@haroldguillarawan9066]

Thank you my good sir, I learned a lot of useful tips from you.

[@Leatherbark]

Excellent presentation!.................Thank you.

[@blackoracle69]

You are welcome!

[@impermanenthuman8427]

This is the best ALICE mod vid I’ve found 👍🏻

[@hildolfrdraugadrottin7279]

Best mod I've done to my large alice is put the kidney belt made for the newer issue packs. It made a big difference when carrying heavy loads. I have other big packs but I use my Alice for my INCH bag because I have faith that it won't break when I need it. I use a big contractor bag on the inside and Ziploc bags for a lot of stuff inside of it. I have a poncho in the top pouch that's big enough to cover me and the pack if it rains. I think I'll do what you do and waterproof it too. You have some great ideas to make the pack more functional. Good video!

[@blackoracle69]

thanks

[@user-vg6ux1xp3h]

I’ve have an Alice pack exactly like the one in your video since 1991. I keep it in a thick black plastic garbage bag when not in use. Took it out in early December to go camping/fishing and found the bag still in excellent shape. The large straps are still supple and everything works well. Blackie, I have always used ziplock bags to water proof my gear in the pack because I have never seen the water proof bags you have shown in Australian disposal stores around Brisbane Australia.

[@PatrickKniesler]

You just kept going and going with great info!

[@FishTheJim]

I have a large Alice but I have never set it up the way I new it needed to be and this video helps a lot. I have most of what I need to do these mods, so it looks I have a new project. Thanks for the video!

[@blackoracle69]

best of luck with it

[@kenmckittrick7876]

Very nice video. good tips. I love my Alice Packs, I have 3 or so. I sent you a little something. Take Care

[@blackoracle69]

Awesome thank you!

[@hardtrooth1776]

You are going down in history as the greatest an icon on bush craft and southern ingenuity .

[@blackoracle69]

lol well thank you

[@whatzthis64]

You showed a bunch of options that I never thought of, great video as always.

[@blackoracle69]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@lorenjohnston2925]

Thank you so much Blackie for the video. I love my Alice pack and mods.

[@research903]

I did something similar with the Large Alice Pack. However, instead of removing the two roll cinch straps, I bought two sets of the plastic snap buckles and cut the original roll straps, attached one side of the buckle to the lower piece and sewed it down with thin bank line and threaded the top portion of the buckle with retaining loops to the remaining top strap. Also, being the large, I did not have to remove the inner pocket. I humped the Large Alice Pack many miles loaded with radio gear, personal gear, ammo, food, etc. (Sigint)

[@crypto4423]

Great video! I learned a lot. I think I’ll do a few of these mods to mine. I like having the second pouch in the main compartment but definitely doing the straps

[@blackoracle69]

awesome

[@mworley10]

Thank you for putting this video out. I have fond and sour memories of alice pack, from time in marines 77-81. I now have made some mods and plan on using it during deer bow season. I went with a braided paracord handle for top. I will put an anchor screw through the shelf, excellent idea and instruction video. Did you ever consider a kidney pad upgrade?

[@michaeljones5395]

Great tips on a conversions. The grab handle is a great addition! When Uncle SAM didn't incorporate one is really something I can't understand. However, like they always told us when I was in... If the US Army wanted you to have comfort, they would have issued you some comfort. LOL

[@blackoracle69]

thank you for your service.. the only reason i could see for no grab handle was the grab the wounded mans L.B.E. harness to drag him out of line of fire.. i guess they did not want ya to grab a pack by accident

[@varnellhopkinsiii6863]

MRE bags also work good for the front pockets and for sealing up small items. Just open carefully then use 100mph tape to close.

[@blackoracle69]

very good tip thanks

[@scottcamp7423]

This damn video should get a Oscar..The Golden globe of Alice pack conversions.. Thanks for the great info..

[@blackoracle69]

lol well thank you very much

[@johnathanlamm3693]

Great video. I’m going to use those techniques to make my Alice Pack more user friendly. Thank you.

[@blackoracle69]

You are so welcome!

[@darrellh1840]

ALCE Pack 301…WOW…could have used this knowledge in the late 70’s! But…better late than never! Thanks Blackie for the tips!!!

[@blackoracle69]

No worries!

[@cheechwizard7564]

I cordially detested the ALICE pack for many years. You've made it viable for me again, awesome. oh, and gallon ziplock freezer bags ARE YOUR FRIEND.

[@pupileon7217]

Thank you for that information, I'm going to do that same exact modification to my pack

[@ClintHollingsworth]

I have an older OD pack like this and I always used the inner pocket to put a folded up wool blanket that I always carried in addition to a sleeping bag. It padded my back (I gave up on using the frame years ago because the pack stood out so far on my back). These days though, I have switched to a SnugPak Endurance pack (Longer bag to fit my longer torso) which has PALS webbing all over it. I put three USMC sustainment pouches on it in roughly the same places as the ALICE pack's outer pockets and now I have an "ALICE" internal frame pack that actually fits my body.

[@blackoracle69]

thanks for the comment

[@fredfreiberger7878]

I have a Alice I bought for 10 $ I appreciate the mods and had not considered any of them that is my lack of experience with backpacking. I think removing the pocket simplified packing and changing the closure straps to quick connects was a great idea .love the simple handle idea . I considered the paracord route for a handle so I could use the cordage if necessary after some quick thought I really need to have the cordage for other things thanks for sharing your experience

[@blackoracle69]

Glad I could help!

[@Duckserman]

Great information as always. This gave me some ideas for my med alice. I put the quick release buckles on it but I did it in a way that I didn't have to cut anything off, I just took off the metal buckle and added quick release ones so that if I ever wanted to I could reverse it. That's usually how I do everything, I mod it for my needs without losing the ability to reverse it. Awesome video

[@blackoracle69]

That is awesome! and thats the whole point mod it for your needs and how you carry your gear no one can ever say you doing it wrong when your doing it for your style

[@williamolliges2622]

Must’ve been where I got the idea.

[@Patriot_Drone_Services]

Great video once again. I carried and have both versions of the ALICE (Ruck Sac) pack. The original OD green and the Woodlands Camo Pattern. Before the ALICE was issued we carried the “Fanny” (Butt) Pack. I actually preferred the Butt pack. I digress. The big ole interior pocket was primarily for the AN-PRC-24/27 or SINGAR Radios, if you were the unlucky joe designated as the RTO… which at one time or another had to do my share of humping in the bush. The three large pouches would fit the brick batteries for the radio and depending on how long we were going out on patrol determined how many grunts were going to be carrying extra radio batteries. My career spanned long enough that we also carried our C-Rations and later the MREs! The first thing we did in Ranger school was to remove every slider clip from ammo pouches, first aid pouches or any other piece of equipment the attached to the LBE web gear using any sort of metal attaching device. We substituted those for parachute cord to tie our gear onto the RUCK or LBE. I can’t ever remember carrying anything attached to those exterior attachment points. We didn’t want anything snagging on branches, brush or wait-a-minute vines. We wanted to reduce the silhouette of the pack. The first thing that happened to the frame was it somehow got run over by a truck or some other accident led to its demise. We used some of the tips you described in the video even in the military. One of the things we did was tie a small arms caliber ammo can to the bottom of the ruck or put it inside at the bottom. Ammo cans had a waterproof seal and thats where we keep our important stuff we wanted to stay dry… writing paper, smokes, etc. Again great video…

[@blackoracle69]

thank you for your service i have seen the ammo can set sideways under the ruck and a pair of bolt holes were drilled to match the drain holes of the alice..then a aluminum bar was matched with holes the small bolts were passed up from inside the ammo can thru the drain holes and into the aluminum bar.when it was all tight it was a ammo can stuck tothe bottom for a base and water tight storage

[@Patriot_Drone_Services]

@@blackoracle69 yes sir… that was a good way to do it…. GIs are pretty ingenious in rigging stuff up. Thank You for the reply.

[@philipwrightscartoonscaric5858]

Ooooh, how I just wished I was 45 years younger...! Brilliant stuff...!

[@99Racker]

Thank you for the video. I make similar mods. I take the whole pack off the frame to spray and make mods to the inside, etc. and makes it easier to spray the exterior. It also let's me use an old sodering iron or fire to burn all exposed or new edges. I also use a piece of an old GI sleeping pad over the waist pad taped down to give me more pad over my kidneys.

[@blackoracle69]

Great tip!

[@nobodyinparticular709]

Found my medium LC2 in a pile of literally thousands of packs in a surplus warehouse in South Africa... dirt cheap and never issued ... it's now my favourite pack.

[@blackoracle69]

awesome thanks for watching

[@ericvater8672]

Blackie you are the best. Your skills and experience is above and beyond. I have learned so much from you and Dan Lutz and William Collins you guys are the greatest. Your skills I have learned so much from you Blackie you are the greatest please keep it the great content. Have a Great day Blackie 👍

[@blackoracle69]

I appreciate that

[@generatorsurf]

Practical and genius. Love the fuel line handle

[@blackoracle69]

Glad you like it!

[@mikelgeren149]

I seen some one on KZbin show how to fold and buckle a medium Alice into a smaller assault pack with out the frame . Did not permanently alter the pack . I had two med. Alice that I ran without the frame . Some of my scum family stole them along with all of my best survival gear , it set me back years , something I'm not over a decade later . Dig your mods and easy way of instructing , brother your a natural !!! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@blackoracle69]

thanks for watching

[@pujo28]

I feel for you. I’d rather have jewelry stolen from me than my beloved gear. My medium Alice pack and M65 jackets especially

[@fredbustin3788]

Don't have an alice pack but watching the mods gave me great ideas for use on other gear. Can't believe I watched the whole thing and was fascinated. Ha!

[@blackoracle69]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@thetruthhershelcyphers]

Good video. The first Alice pack I purchased way back in the early 80’s I thought it would be a good idea to remove the three outer pockets, it did not take long for me to regret that decision. My next Alice pack I’ve made a lot of the same mods. I added buckles and reused the existing straps. I made a grab handle by sewing on a piece of thick webbing. Not as comfortable as the handle you installed looked to be but functional. But I wasn’t brave enough to remove the inner compartment, nor to cut off the excess straps. lol 😂

[@blackoracle69]

thats one of the good points of the alice you can adapt it to your needs

[@robertmiller2629]

I also carried an Alice pack for a few years and had a love/hate thing with it also for a lot of the same reasons plus the weight of the frame. I ended up making l lighter strong plastic frame out of schedule 80 pvc pipe that was very strong and lighter weight and because being hollow helps for flotation to I also do ranger rolls with clothing inside of tall white kitchen garbage bags I helps to keep things dry. Good idea about the bread bags plus with the excess webbing you cut off it will be usefull for other projects along will the excess material that you cut off from inside. I am thinking bags or tool rolls or something. Keep up the good work and keep your powder dry.

[@blackoracle69]

good info thanks for posting

[@XxXx-dk3wb]

Best Alice content yet... Thanks

[@blackoracle69]

thank you

[@shadowstalker130666]

A lot of this info had me nodding along. I agree with most stuff about its perks and issues, and most of the mods. The fastex buckles were my first mod. Lol. I use the radio pocket to hold a hydration pouch and other small things, strapped in tight as it can. Not ideal, but more woeking with whats available as i dont hate it enough to get rid of it as its sometimes handy.

[@blackoracle69]

hey use what works for you i had a friend he love that top pocket me not so much

[@Chrisrk11]

Great video Mr Thomas got a couple ideas that I never thought about Thanks

[@blackoracle69]

Glad to hear it

[@Chrisrk11]

@@blackoracle69 by the way I’m from bama also but I think we live on opposite ends I’m up in lauderdale county north west corner wish I was closer the that surplus store you go to lol

[@practacticaloutdoorsandthi6962]

Lots of great ideas!!

[@Steve-hb4my]

The BEST A.L.I.C.E. Pack video I’ve seen.

[@baileybrunson42]

One word brother.. brilliant.

[@blackoracle69]

thanks brother

[@rickyfargason8859]

Excellent video, Blackie! I have a love/hate relationship with Alice too. 😂 I have a large Alice and about 3 medium Alices. The first mod I made on one of the medium Alices was to add a fastex buckle kit to the main flap and the 3 pouches making a lot easier access. You don't need to use the snaps on the pouches and you don't need to move those 2 straps to the side. I agree completely about getting rid of the radio pocket. It just gets in the way and makes no sense. I did not know about using that back loop. One of the things I don't like about the Alice is how it rides on the back esp with the frame. A pack should ride high and close to the back imo. The Alice tends to ride low and out. It's possible I'm not adjusting it correctly on my back.

[@blackoracle69]

it always rode to low and out for me as well unless i have a light to med load in it

[@Sparkfly88]

from what I've read, it's designed low so with a helmet on you can be in the prone position looking up and the pack is out of your way as a riflemen. Remember, its a military pack.

[@kerryirwin5581]

Great tips...I wish I knew some of those years ago

[@waynehendrix4806]

Blackie , you mentioned every part of that pack system I hated, and how to change it. Thank you.

[@blackoracle69]

my pleasure

[@protectpersevere2030]

Great video learned a lot. I actually like using that pocket (u hate 😂) for a camelback

[@ArchangelGregory]

You know your stuff; holy crap! I was USN in the 80s and knew a guy had an aluminum box made for his he filled with liquor bottles. Put IV hoses to the bottles and ran them out a few extra drain holes in the bottom of his pack. Salt in a FAK and veg sticks lem n lime juice in a mag pouch, mix bottles in the outside pouches. Rented his mobile bar services on weekends or came out to the beach with us. Popular guy.

[@blackoracle69]

i bet he was

[@bubba7626]

You look proper in that alice pack Blacky👍

[@MichaelR58]

Blackie , great video and tips , thanks for sharing ,God bless !

[@blackoracle69]

Thanks for watching!

[@patrickeckhard7958]

You can also put a 2nd cargo shelf on the middle horizontal strip. Ammo can on the bottom and 3 day/ranger / butt pack the other.

[@semperfi-1918]

Both my deployments had the alice pack and by god it is the best pack ive ever used. I even used it in college and still have one prepped akd ready for minute man.

[@mikewilliams1921]

Where were you in 1988 when I was marching around Ft.Dix ,New Jersey during basic training. Our lives would have been a bit more comfortable on our 15 mile bivouac. Man we needed that insight

[@blackoracle69]

thank for watching and thank you for your service

[@davegoodridge8352]

Good information, worth watching twice

[@blackoracle69]

Glad you think so!

[@jenniferbauman4802]

Oh my God. Your the first person I ever seen to cut that raido pouch out of an alais pack. Well it use to be a hundred dollars pack. Look out people. Don't let blackie near you pack. Great video. God bless. From Glenn CATT in Massachusetts.

[@blackoracle69]

Oh wow!

[@jenniferbauman4802]

@@blackoracle69 it is a great video. I learned a lot. I found that we can fit a lot more gear in the pack with out the frame but it hard on the back. And your right that damn pouch was asking for it . But that pouch holds a lot of weight that raido isn't light. I was laughing it seems you and that pouch have a long history. God bless. Blackie. Keep up the great work. From Glenn CATT in Massachusetts. The ground pounder series is a good topic .

[@mbarr1029]

Great tips. thanks for the vid

[@blackoracle69]

No problem 👍

[@neiljohnston3407]

The Version we got over here in NZ ... had additional pockets above the bottom 3 ( just big enough for a cooker & Hexamine tabs) ... but the bottom of the pocket was not sewn closed so anything smaller would fall out ... 1st job was always to sew them shut along the bottom!

[@blackoracle69]

thanks for watching

[@oldsoldier181]

I cut the radio pouch out of my medium pack, for that reason. Its a day pack for me, and I will occasionally throw my ham radio in there to work in the field. My large Alice, I kept it in there. It actually serves a purpose for secondary quick grab gear.

[@charleslewis7119]

Thank you so much for that I bought me one Alice pack about 4 or 5 years ago and I've been fighting that thing like crazy I caught my pack out and I went over everything as you did and I saved the video and yes sent you that thing up like the way you showed through that loop I'm just so glad you showed everything it makes it so much better and thank you so much for taking the time to make the video as far as I know that's the longest video you'll ever made but it seemed like it was over in 10 or 20 minutes the way you went over it and explained it you did very well and I can't say thank you enough because that was the best pack I ever had on lasting and I'm going to give everything you showed a shot but I know it's going to be like having a new pack again I saved up for a month or two just to get that one I gave $45 for it I have no frame but I'm going to look for one thank you again so much I appreciate you for making the video

[@blackoracle69]

glad you enjoyed it