integral of x*e^(2x)/(1+2x)^2, LIATE DOESN'T WORK HERE

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blackpenredpen

blackpenredpen

6 жыл бұрын

integral of x*e^(2x)/(1+2x)^2,
integration by parts,
integration with DI method,
hard integration by parts,
calculus 2 integral examples,
DI method,
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@Jonathan-rf5cp
@Jonathan-rf5cp 5 жыл бұрын
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@ToonZIndia
@ToonZIndia 2 жыл бұрын
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@gravnine
@gravnine 2 жыл бұрын
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@sansamman4619
@sansamman4619 6 жыл бұрын
I think the category should be: entertainment...
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 жыл бұрын
lol yea!
@MigligM
@MigligM 6 жыл бұрын
Just here to say thanks from Brazil, just passed my calculus 2 exam! You're a great teacher and it's nice that you're solving all this different integrals on your channel, usualy we can only find the methods and simple examples on other channels, its awesome that we can get so much more practice on all the extra examples you're solving! I also dig how you smile at the camera from time to time, we get to see your passion for math and it kinda makes more bearable to learn from it, i already finished all my calculus 2 exams but im still here watching you, and i kinda hated calculus with all my might before lol. Keep killing it! Peace!
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Miguel, Thank you for your nice comment! I am glad that my videos have been help you! Keep up with you good work in your classes! bprp
@jjtt
@jjtt 6 жыл бұрын
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@factsheet4930
@factsheet4930 6 жыл бұрын
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@anjelpatel36
@anjelpatel36 5 жыл бұрын
Yaayyy...
@Simon-bl9wk
@Simon-bl9wk 6 жыл бұрын
realy sympathetic teacher.. Thank you! Greetings from Germany
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!!
@diegojesusduenascollado7043
@diegojesusduenascollado7043 3 жыл бұрын
@@blackpenredpen Hi, isn't it possible that the second part of the integration can be integrated as arctg(2x)??? (1/1+(2x)²)
@coderanger7708
@coderanger7708 2 жыл бұрын
@@diegojesusduenascollado7043 that's not possible as we need it to be x^2 and not 4x^2, even if you try to take u = 4x^2, remember that to go to U world you have to differentiate u and write DX in terms of du, on doing that it'll change how the integral looks.
@zzwag
@zzwag 6 жыл бұрын
BPRP your channel is growing so much!!! Congrats! Also, I ended with an A in Differential Equations last semester thanks to you! Again thanks so much. This fall I'm taking linear algebra :)
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 жыл бұрын
zZwag that's great! Keep up with the good work!
@gregoriousmaths266
@gregoriousmaths266 4 жыл бұрын
zZwag I tried for like a minute to get that fly in ur pfp off of my screen lmao
@jalenjackson8572
@jalenjackson8572 6 жыл бұрын
This dude is so good at teaching this stuff. My teacher is in no way a bad teacher, just seeing how someone else does it is so helpful.
@KaKam0u
@KaKam0u 6 жыл бұрын
At 0:35 you say it can't be done by u substitution, but u = 1+2x works too and I found it simpler that way. It doesn't avoid having to do integral par parts though so it doesn't really save much time in the end.
@TechnoSan09
@TechnoSan09 2 жыл бұрын
Yes then it'd become in the form e^x(f(x)+f'(x)) which is e^x. f(x) +C
@jeremyclark4992
@jeremyclark4992 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for posting your videos. They have helped me tremendously as I'm sure they have many many others.
@Edenchungkhoan
@Edenchungkhoan 6 жыл бұрын
I have a tendency to "open math problems" like this. When I solve them already, I go online, look for other better way for them to learn extra procedure. In this particular problem, this remarkable professor and I have the same way. And I'm quite sure that is the best way for this problem. :)
@HimanshuSharma-yw6su
@HimanshuSharma-yw6su Жыл бұрын
Alternate method: The derivative of f(x)*(e^g(x)) = (e^g(x))*(g'(x)*f(x)+f'(x)). In this case g(x) = 2x, Hence we need to find f(x) such that 2f(x) + f'(x) = x/(1+2x)^2. By observation, f(x) should be of the form m/(1+2x). Putting this in the equation gives m=1/4. Hence we get the integral as (e^2x)/4(1+2x) + C
@AriasFco
@AriasFco 6 жыл бұрын
Please do some eliptical integrals, I need to refresh them a bit. =)
@pierrelavry8426
@pierrelavry8426 6 жыл бұрын
Francisco Arias )
@suniltshegaonkar7809
@suniltshegaonkar7809 6 жыл бұрын
Integration by partial fraction, dU is -ve and as well Integral V; so the product is positive. But there remains the negative sign from the formulation to take effect. Check at 6:48.
@dipun4849
@dipun4849 2 жыл бұрын
Your solving methods are heart touching.❤️❤️❤️
@Omar-sq6zz
@Omar-sq6zz 6 жыл бұрын
Perfect explanation with deep details I appreciate your work.
@yuvalpaz3752
@yuvalpaz3752 6 жыл бұрын
great video, in other matter, can you do fourier transform videos like you did with laplace transform?
@noide1837
@noide1837 Жыл бұрын
My man, thank you. I could not get past this problem in my homework. I had so many aha moments watching this video, and really every one of your videos that I've watched.
@itoldyounottotouchit3336
@itoldyounottotouchit3336 3 жыл бұрын
I love how the chalk colours match your sweater.
@gabrielpheme6118
@gabrielpheme6118 4 жыл бұрын
fascinating. the way you flow with your maths. doing it with love. I'm inspired.
@shanecoyle3676
@shanecoyle3676 4 жыл бұрын
Im a first year chem student (i have to do maths for 2 years tho but i love it) this seems like theperfect problem for someone my level chain rule product rule integration by parts and by substitution all used. Its perfect. And tge speed you teach at is perfect for me personally because im pretty comfterble with this. But man this is a perfect vid.
@yellow-is-my-jam8D
@yellow-is-my-jam8D Жыл бұрын
You are a legend Sir, thank you so much for making these lessons easy to learn and concise. Wish us all luck in our Calc II exams!
@sansamman4619
@sansamman4619 6 жыл бұрын
that integral is so beautifully written!
@tehyonglip9203
@tehyonglip9203 6 жыл бұрын
i prefer chalkboard over whiteboard, you can do many crazy things like drawing a circles with protractor and dotted lines with chalkboard, you cant do anything with whiteboard. whitechalkredchalk>blackpenredpen
@TechnoSan09
@TechnoSan09 2 жыл бұрын
But the particles would get into my nostril And hands will be shabby
@samiahmed1942
@samiahmed1942 5 жыл бұрын
this man is a living legend. you are the best
@vedantpatil1095
@vedantpatil1095 6 жыл бұрын
Sir, u are awesome, pls can you upload more videos like these type
@MarkMcDaniel
@MarkMcDaniel 6 жыл бұрын
Elegant solution for a messy integral.
@alaba5085
@alaba5085 6 жыл бұрын
¡El mejor explicando la solución de Integrales!
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 жыл бұрын
thanks!!!
@BeenYT
@BeenYT 11 ай бұрын
you can solve by u sub if u sub in u = 2x+1 which yields ( after inserting x= (u-1)/2 and (2x+1) = u and cancelling everything and taking out the constants) 1/4e integral of ((ue^u-e^u)/u^2) du = integral of (e^u/u) - integral of (e^u/u^2) which is EI(u) - (EI(u)-e^u/u + c) = e^(2x+1)/e*4(1+2x) + c = e^2x/4(1+2x) + c
@shahimmujteba944
@shahimmujteba944 4 жыл бұрын
Complicated question, complicated answer.lots of love from India
@Metalhammer1993
@Metalhammer1993 6 жыл бұрын
"product and quotient rule are the same thing" reminds me of 12th grade. amths teacher got pregnant we just had done product rule new maths teacher thought we were done with the chapter and in the exam was a shitload of fractions we had to derivate. man can you imagine the pain we were in?^^ i mean i for whatever reason remembered middleschool maths. and thouht i can just write the fraction u/v as u*v^-1 and differentiate this. man i was glad it only had simple stuff in the denominator like x^4. everything would have been physical pain without knowing quotient rule^^
@trueriver1950
@trueriver1950 6 жыл бұрын
you can use your trick to derive the quotient rule from the product rule if you have more than one quotient to differentiate. I had to do that when I suddenly had a memory failure during an exam.
@Metalhammer1993
@Metalhammer1993 6 жыл бұрын
i know nealry got hit for that from other guys in my semester. first semester chemistry. our prof asked who never heard of the quotient rule^^ some raised thweir hands. "hwo did you derive quotients then?" i said product rule and that guy "that would be a nice task for the exam thanks" we all fucked up^^ please derive the quotient rule from the product rule. i could do it in school but i could not do it correctly in theory in university man that sucked^^
@gcewing
@gcewing 6 жыл бұрын
I don't bother remembering the quotient rule. Products with negative powers work just as well.
@che7045
@che7045 Жыл бұрын
What you said is really easy to understand . Thx u so much.
@poncesebastian7875
@poncesebastian7875 5 жыл бұрын
This integral came in my exam damn it!
@marlonhautecoeur34
@marlonhautecoeur34 3 жыл бұрын
thank you so much blackpenredpen
@antoniocampos9721
@antoniocampos9721 2 жыл бұрын
Good. Your example helped me to solve another problem.
@artrose1717
@artrose1717 6 жыл бұрын
What a great teacher you are, thanks for your uploads!
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Art!
@prollysine
@prollysine 2 жыл бұрын
Dear bprp, congratulations on the example, the solution is surprising and fun !
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@ambikasenapati9947
@ambikasenapati9947 3 жыл бұрын
We can take e^2x/1+2x = t Differentiating it will give us 4 xe^2x/(1+2x)^2 dx = dt which is basically the question. Its shorter
@adinovianto1545
@adinovianto1545 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks you so much. Sangat membantu saya
@reetasingh1679
@reetasingh1679 6 жыл бұрын
If you substitute u=2x+1, the integral reduces a lot, to the point where it breaks into two integrals. If we then use LIATE on the first integral, it eliminates the second integral, making life a LOT easier...
@osamahafez4548
@osamahafez4548 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making our life easier .
@jamiea.espinozar.7534
@jamiea.espinozar.7534 6 жыл бұрын
You saved my life 😭❤
@kimrocha1320
@kimrocha1320 3 жыл бұрын
You can do u-subs to u=1+2x too and separate the substituted equation into a sum of two integrals. Then, u have: I = 1/4e*[int(e^u/u)du - int(e^u/u^2)du**] So, if u apply integration by parts to first integral, taking e^u as dv and 1/u as w u have: int(e^u/u)du = e^u/u - int(-e^u/u^2)du int(e^u/u)du = e^u/u + int(e^u/u^2)du** Now, u can cancel (**). So: I=(1/(4e))(e^u/u)=e^(u-1)/4u = e^(2x)/(4(2x+1)) I think it is the first "blackpenredpen's integral" that i pwned alone, im very proud of that :)) thank you, your channel is awesome!
@professorjessen
@professorjessen 2 жыл бұрын
Good job! Linear substitutions simplification should have been obvious. There’s need to pull out the 1/e though. e^(u-1) is its own derivative and antiderivative, and the backsub is going to be happier when you’re done, too.
@nationalstudyacademykim5030
@nationalstudyacademykim5030 5 жыл бұрын
Touche! Nicely Done Sir!!!
@engr.rimarc.liguan1795
@engr.rimarc.liguan1795 4 жыл бұрын
Sir. Please help me with regards this situation: integral of (-ln x /(1+e^2x)) dx at lower boundary of 0 to the upper boundary of 1. Please investigate this also if it is divergent or convergent. But I really do, it is convergent. But it is really tricky to solve because it cancels out. Thank you.
@bharathegde5899
@bharathegde5899 6 жыл бұрын
So glad he put the +C in the end!
@dangerxgaming9475
@dangerxgaming9475 Ай бұрын
Its was the best video that i have wver watched 😊
@timeonly1401
@timeonly1401 Жыл бұрын
Saw 2x in a couple places, along with the single x up top, which can easily be made into 2x by multiplying by 2/2... I let u = 2x => du = 2dx . Subbing & factoring out 1/4, gives a cleaner: (1/4) integral[u e^u (1+u)^(-2) du]. The rest is easy.
@saxbend
@saxbend 6 жыл бұрын
Why doesn't the minus sign at the beginning of the second row cancel with the -1 in the numerator of the integrated fraction?
@spixdusk6899
@spixdusk6899 5 жыл бұрын
i love u tnks for your work ^^
@kaylawagner3295
@kaylawagner3295 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video!
@2kabdul429
@2kabdul429 2 жыл бұрын
This video helped so much thank you
@karangarg4631
@karangarg4631 6 жыл бұрын
I have a small query, at 5:50 when you write the first part of the answer, why is it negative? From the D column, the expression is positive and in the I column is the expression not also positive (because the negative sign in the expression cancels with the negative sign at the start of the second row)?
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 жыл бұрын
I had a video here explaining what to do in general kzbin.info/www/bejne/aHqQkIaMbciqqdk
@anitapalvlogs1978
@anitapalvlogs1978 5 жыл бұрын
Very niece explain sir👌👌👌
@ibanguniverse811
@ibanguniverse811 6 жыл бұрын
Hey, I didnt see his lecture, I just saw his cute handsome face
@Salah-fn
@Salah-fn 3 жыл бұрын
OMG you are an awesome teacher I love you sir veryyyyyy much❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@durgaganesula2981
@durgaganesula2981 5 жыл бұрын
Super a little bit tensed the best because of your the fashion on explaining I am a 10th grade student of IIT FOUNDATION
@user-dd4mr4nv5g
@user-dd4mr4nv5g 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, before all thank u from the heart, but I have a question could we get the integral by the equation in the top with a negative exponent? in the first step. Because I just solve it by using this way and I had a different answer :(
@salihabatool4794
@salihabatool4794 5 жыл бұрын
u are extremely fast and wonderfulll......
@madushanbuddika4585
@madushanbuddika4585 4 жыл бұрын
Much love from 🇱🇰 ❤️
@dianamariasantos5482
@dianamariasantos5482 4 жыл бұрын
este men es un grande wn
@danieljimenez2725
@danieljimenez2725 6 жыл бұрын
What criteria did you use to stop the derivation and integration of the two functions? Everything else made sense but I'm not sure exactly when to stop the integrating and derivating. Great videos btw
@MrLucky-oq6vq
@MrLucky-oq6vq 5 жыл бұрын
We integrate one time
@diartbajraktari9128
@diartbajraktari9128 2 жыл бұрын
You atop when it’s 1.easy/easier to integrate 2.you get your original function again
@holyshit922
@holyshit922 5 жыл бұрын
Integral of x^2/(x sin x + cos x)^2, LIATE also seems to not work here but integration by parts works
@thamkaionn3785
@thamkaionn3785 6 жыл бұрын
+blackpenredpen why the DI method notworks for (sec^2 x)(ln(cos(x))?
@desertrainfrog1691
@desertrainfrog1691 2 жыл бұрын
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@joudh.7457
@joudh.7457 2 жыл бұрын
How did you know to stop after deriving and integrating once? Like don't we keep deriving and integrating?
@lalitdogra22
@lalitdogra22 6 жыл бұрын
You're perform maths in the best possible way :)
@davis2018
@davis2018 4 жыл бұрын
i really appreciate this bro!!
@wristdisabledwriter2893
@wristdisabledwriter2893 4 жыл бұрын
I think I saw your previous way because I did it by recognizing that it looked like a quotient so I did it by showing the quotient
@Dogface1984
@Dogface1984 4 жыл бұрын
1/(1+2x)^2 can be integrated as arctan(2x) with u=2x
@sindyluhs8607
@sindyluhs8607 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much !
@chaitanyaparanjape7837
@chaitanyaparanjape7837 6 жыл бұрын
Hey plz tell me if you find this method useful :) I am solved it by using formula Integration { e^x [ f(x) +f'(x) ] .dx } = e^x [f(x)] +c 1. substitute 2x=u & simplify to get NOTE: There is 1/4 outside integration e^u [ u/ ( 1+u )^2] 2. add & subtract 1 in numerator to get it in this form e^u{ [1/(1+u)] + [ -1 / (1+u)^2] } 3.now comparing with formula we get f(x) as 1/(1+u) Therefore ans is obtained just by placing values in places of e^x[f(x)] +c
@abdikanimusehalane5054
@abdikanimusehalane5054 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'm gonna have Calculus 2 exam in one week
@user-ld7mc3hw6c
@user-ld7mc3hw6c 4 жыл бұрын
such a great teacher
@camhongluu4189
@camhongluu4189 Жыл бұрын
I solve this by factoring the numerator. In the integral, we see the denominator is in the from of “post-quotient rule” differentiation. I put A as the numerator of pre-differentiation, or the numerator of the resulting integral, then apply the quotient rule. Then we have: x.e^2x = A’(1+2x) - 2A Then, A’ -2A =0, and 2xA’ = xe^2x Then we will have A’ = [x(e^2x)]/2 and A = [x(e^2x)]/4 This is just for fun and fast for the math of multiplication question. I know the step and work it “backward”, but put it in proper explanation..kinda no😅
@yasley444
@yasley444 6 жыл бұрын
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@jeleelphusjabu6068
@jeleelphusjabu6068 3 жыл бұрын
How can we get help or ask Questions, please help, if is possible
5 жыл бұрын
You are the man!
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@jackkalver4644
@jackkalver4644 Ай бұрын
I thought of 3 methods myself: this one, integrating x/(2x+1), and expanding the integrand.
@snbeast9545
@snbeast9545 5 жыл бұрын
"Prada Rule" Damn, I didn't know fashion was THAT strict!
@aneedfortheory
@aneedfortheory 4 жыл бұрын
The integration by parts formula is int u dv = uv - int v du, no? So, what happened to the minus before the int v du? I solved the question using substitution and then LIATE finding your answer but with a negative, viz, -e^(2x)/4(1+2x)^2 + C. Great videos btw!
@Convergant
@Convergant 6 жыл бұрын
question: could you not just set u=e^2x du/dx=e^2x dx=1/e^2xdu since u=e^2x, x=ln(u)/2 and 2x becomes ln(u) to get the integral of ln(u)/2(1+ln(u))^2?
@user-xi5yz5xs6u
@user-xi5yz5xs6u 3 жыл бұрын
blackpenredpen's little brother... whitechalkredchalk
@zelmafiereder
@zelmafiereder 6 жыл бұрын
Love u love u love u!! Haha Ladies and gentleman u r da best!
@jarikosonen4079
@jarikosonen4079 4 жыл бұрын
Integration by parts and can you make this with Feynman's method also?
@mahooi
@mahooi 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@jeremyhuang7160
@jeremyhuang7160 5 жыл бұрын
can we use the DI method to solve the integral of sin^2(x) or still have to use the trigonometry method?
@carultch
@carultch 2 жыл бұрын
You will end up in an infinite loop if you try to apply it to sin^2(x) or cos^2(x).
@HYEOL
@HYEOL 6 жыл бұрын
I remember I had to do this one in an exam
@user-kf7is4cl7h
@user-kf7is4cl7h 6 жыл бұрын
كم اتمنى ان تكون هذا الدرس مترجم
@shayandaneshvar
@shayandaneshvar 6 жыл бұрын
Hey , can you integrate this function? F(x)=x*tan(x)
@magnuskonig9136
@magnuskonig9136 5 жыл бұрын
This is visual asmr
@vanityngreed
@vanityngreed 6 жыл бұрын
beautiful
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 жыл бұрын
thanks!!!
@katlover1167
@katlover1167 6 жыл бұрын
@vanityngreed Him, the mathematics, or both?
@spooky066
@spooky066 3 жыл бұрын
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@aponbiswas4508
@aponbiswas4508 4 жыл бұрын
thank u,,from Bangladesh
@venzerbcollections69
@venzerbcollections69 5 жыл бұрын
Sir, really fast question, can it be done if u=1+2x, then express the integrand in terms of u, then integrate by parts after?
@vano__
@vano__ 4 жыл бұрын
hello after 3 month, yes if you don't know yet lol
@josephshaff5194
@josephshaff5194 2 жыл бұрын
crowd goes wild!
@uttambhadauriya5635
@uttambhadauriya5635 6 жыл бұрын
put 2x=t then you end up with [te^t/4(1+t)^2].... now we have e^t[(1/(1+t) - 1/(1+t)^2]/4... This takes the form of integral e^x[f(x)+f '(x)] = e^x[f(x)]...hence the answer [e^2x/(1+2x)]/4
@ravipatani3242
@ravipatani3242 4 жыл бұрын
Can D I method used in xln(x)
@toto9097
@toto9097 6 жыл бұрын
U didn't multiply integrated part by negative sign when u were taking product of cross elements.
@awvz_1194
@awvz_1194 6 жыл бұрын
This problem is in the Stewart Calculus book
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 жыл бұрын
yea
@soggy6645
@soggy6645 6 жыл бұрын
A lot of the example problems he features are.
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@williamdanilobotelloperez5771 Жыл бұрын
No necesitamos saber inglés para entender los números increíble explicación
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