This is so famous, i still remember 8 years ago, when my uni professor told me, there is psychiatric hospital for those who still try to find a primitive of sin(x) / x... lol
@mohamedabdullahi57085 жыл бұрын
Kkkkk
@sharmisthaghosh90174 жыл бұрын
Lol
@camkiranratna4 жыл бұрын
For some reason , “lol” looks like mod(0)
@deltaspace04 жыл бұрын
@@camkiranratna do you mean absolute value?
@dclrk83314 жыл бұрын
@@deltaspace0 Absolute value is also called mod in some places.
@rudycummings46712 жыл бұрын
I recall doing this integral many years ago. Back then we used contour integration. We chose the contour to be a semi-circle of radius R centered at the origin . The origin was indented and cotoured with a semi-circle of radius r. The semi-circle was located in the upper-half of the Cartesian plane. Complex integration in one of the most potent methods for dealing with such problems.
@gertwallen Жыл бұрын
I agree, I solved this too in my first course of Applied Mathematics in college where we used complex analysis techniques kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJeXfYWim9GcmJI
@greatwhitesufi Жыл бұрын
Yeah that's true, that's how I learnt it/saw it first
@lasmatesdelamor4287 Жыл бұрын
Integrales cerradas en variable compleja?
@louisrobitaille5810 Жыл бұрын
You can do integrals on complex bounds (lower/upper) 😮? Or is it Real bounds but integrated on Complex functions?
@comp.lex4 Жыл бұрын
@@louisrobitaille5810 complex functions and complex bounds. Turns out that the path you take *mostly* doesn't matter!
@112BALAGE1127 жыл бұрын
You don't often see a man doing partial derivatives while wearing a partial derivative t-shirt.
@blackpenredpen7 жыл бұрын
hahahahaha! honestly, that wasn't planned.
@ruiyingwu8937 жыл бұрын
blackpenredpen I just realised after reading this...
@yamenarhim93366 жыл бұрын
me 2 lollll
@edwardtang35856 жыл бұрын
It seemed to me like some sort of band sign like Nike at first
@AlgyCuber6 жыл бұрын
what’s the difference between partial derivative and normal derivative?
@andraspongracz59964 жыл бұрын
The part where the constant C is determined by checking the limit of the function at infinity is very elegant. Beautiful proof. Of course, there are a lot of technical details that mathematicians would think about (is it correct to derivate inside the integral, exchange limit and integral, etc.). But this video is a great summary of the overall strategy. Very nice work!
@hyungmanpark4346 Жыл бұрын
.l
@cycklist7 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy watching you integrate! Relaxing and fascinating at the same time. Isn't it!
@blackpenredpen7 жыл бұрын
PompeyDB it is!
@jirehchoo21516 жыл бұрын
it is, is not? It's!
@rehmmyteon50165 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy watching you disintegrate! Relaxing and fascinating at the same time. Isn't it!
@tens0r8844 жыл бұрын
@@rehmmyteon5016 lmao
@lisalisa97067 жыл бұрын
you told us not to trust wolfram and now you confirm your answer in wolfram. what am i supposed to do with my life now?
@brandong56877 жыл бұрын
Dokuta Viktor trust no one
@arthurreitz95407 жыл бұрын
Dokuta Viktor Ask wolfram.
@blackpenredpen7 жыл бұрын
Dokuta Viktor only if it gives the same answer as what we got.
@axemenace66376 жыл бұрын
blackpenredpen what if what you got is by looking at Wolfram????
@MingruiCHENG6 жыл бұрын
then don't get things from Wolfram but just check your answer with it.
@terapode6 жыл бұрын
One of the best math videos I´v ever seen. Changing the function from x to b was a masterpiece.
@gertwallen Жыл бұрын
Yes, Feynman was a brilliant mind
@whiz85695 жыл бұрын
18:12 I like the idea that, after going through all that, we figure out that the integral from 0 to infinity of sin(x)/x dx is equal to... Some unknown value.
@antonquirgst28122 жыл бұрын
its not that unexpected though if you look at the function... its just looks very convergent.. (this can ofc be very deceiving)
@createyourownfuture54102 жыл бұрын
@@antonquirgst2812 But there's the fact that as x grows larger, it tends to 0 because sin's at most 1 or -1.
@antonquirgst28122 жыл бұрын
@@createyourownfuture5410 yup - totally agree - x grows linear while sin(x) is periodic!
@createyourownfuture54102 жыл бұрын
@@antonquirgst2812 Aaaand it approaches 0 from both sides
@josephcamavinga97212 жыл бұрын
@@createyourownfuture5410 It actually approaches 1 from 0
@proofofalifetime4887 жыл бұрын
Hi, I just learned this technique over the summer. I was amazed. I used it to solve a problem from American Mathematical Monthly. It was fun, not only sending in a solution, but learning this amazing technique used by Feynman!
@AmanteNoViolao7 жыл бұрын
When you sleep in class 14:01
@bonbonpony7 жыл бұрын
More like when you blink in class :)
@peppybocan7 жыл бұрын
but the answer was spoiled in that part :D
@Tomaplen7 жыл бұрын
when you struggle not to sleep
@AhnafAbdullah7 жыл бұрын
Idk why was the video cut? lol
@blackpenredpen7 жыл бұрын
Ahnaf Abdullah I wanted to add that explanation why b has to be nonnegative
@sonicpawnsyou7 жыл бұрын
I see you have finally decided to clothe like a true mathematician, seeing your t-shirt involves partial derivatives. 👌
@blackpenredpen7 жыл бұрын
MeowGrump lolllll this is a good one!!!
@ffggddss7 жыл бұрын
asics = "Anime sane in corpore sano," "Sound mind/spirit in a sound body."
@koharaisevo36667 жыл бұрын
Anima not anime (but that's somehow relevant :))))
@omarathon59226 жыл бұрын
👌 looks like the partial derivative sign XD
@herbert1646 жыл бұрын
So, it is soul eater then?
@mathnezmike5 жыл бұрын
Wow. At the begining the integral with the exponential function looks more complicated, but that function allows to have a closed form and the Leibniz theorem is fundamental. Great work!
@NazriB2 жыл бұрын
Lies again? So fat
@mohammadaminsarabi62075 жыл бұрын
Feynman was a mathematician, physician and philosopher... super geniuce
@juanpiedrahita-garcia51385 жыл бұрын
Physicist*
@adityaekbote84983 жыл бұрын
@@juanpiedrahita-garcia5138 lol
@clarenceauerbach79342 ай бұрын
genius , even as a joke it hurts my eyes
@vaibhavkumar54194 жыл бұрын
i am 17 years old and i am from india .............i am able to understand it clearly ......thank you sir , love you and your love for mathematics 😊
@siguardvolsung6 жыл бұрын
"This is so much fun, isn't it?" Sure.
@dannygjk5 жыл бұрын
lol
@S1nwar7 жыл бұрын
the world needs more of this....
@seanclough78107 жыл бұрын
him: "And now let's draw the continuation arrow with also looks like the integration symbol. That's so cool." Me: "Ha." I happen to remember just enough calculus to follow along. Interesting. Thank you.
@blackpenredpen7 жыл бұрын
Sean Clough yay! I am happy to hear!
@rishavmukherjee42514 жыл бұрын
"And once again, pi pops out of nowhere!"
@ShotgunLlama7 жыл бұрын
He's becoming self aware
@Aramil47 жыл бұрын
How so? What did you notice?
@Reluxthelegend7 жыл бұрын
isn't it?
@CTT365445 жыл бұрын
This problem can be simply solved using complex integral (getting the answer directly without a piece of paper). However, I’ve to admit that the method introduced here is VERY SMART. Thank you!
@icenarsin5283 Жыл бұрын
Best math teacher ever !!!
@Agent-cipher-61202 жыл бұрын
I can't believe I just spent 20 minutes watching a video about integration and loving every second of it. A few years ago, I used to despise Maths
@charliearcaro2084 жыл бұрын
Great video using Feynman's technique but would never tackle this integral in this way. Once you've applied the Laplace transform it's much easier to use Euler's formula and substitute sin(x) with Im (e^ix). Haven't read all of the comments but I'm sure this has already been mentioned
@Sugarman962 жыл бұрын
I'm familiar with using the Fourier transform to find the integral, but I don't quite see how you'd use the Laplace transform.
@charliearcaro2082 жыл бұрын
@@Sugarman96 - the Laplace transform is what the above video uses when creating his function I (b)
@mrocto3292 жыл бұрын
@@Sugarman96 I'(b) is the same negative laplace transform of sin(x) which you can use to easily find I'(b) instead of doing whatever he did.
@justinscheidler59385 жыл бұрын
How the heck do 2 people that didn't know eachother ' invent' calculus at the same time.Simply fascinating. This was awesome to watch, I now have a better understanding of how partial derivatives work. I now must go back and study calc shui I can come back and fully digest this.
@WildSeven197 жыл бұрын
Thanks for reminding me what I enjoyed about maths! It really is good fun to play around with calculus like this.
@JoseDiaz-gp1bn7 жыл бұрын
You always manage to make me click to watch you do integrals I've already done long ago!, but this integral of sinc(x) was really gorgeous. It's kinda the method for obtaining the the moments of x with the gaußian. I hope to see more of this kind.
@Zonnymaka7 жыл бұрын
Wow, that was an heavy load! I never saw anything like that before...it'll take me a few days to digest the technique. Well done!
@michaeljohnston30383 жыл бұрын
That's what she said
@beastlye212 Жыл бұрын
His enthusiasm is contagious wish he was my calc professor back in the day I would have loved that class
@beaming_sparkling_trash261 Жыл бұрын
For the ones that want to dive into the details, I think we have to justify that the differential equation is defined for b in (R+*) in order for e^(-bx) to actually tend towards 0, then use the continuity of parameter integrals so that I(b) -> I(0) when b->0. Finally, the dominated convergence theorem gives us that I(b) -> 0 when b->inf. We conclude with the fact that arctan + pi/2 -> pi/2 when b->0, and uniqueness of the limit : both limits I(0) and pi/2 are equal ♡
@leif1075 Жыл бұрын
Why would anyone think to add e^x thiugh this COMES OUT OF NOWHERE..what I thought to do was replace sinex with e^ix from Eulers formula..isn't thst smarter and more intuitive? I think he needs to justify where e^x cones from if anything it should be ln x he is adding nkt e^× since 1/× is the derivative of ln x not e^×..
@chuckstarwar78904 жыл бұрын
We used to think that it is such a basic calculus skill for all college students, now it becomes a show and privilege. I hope it will bring more interests among the young generations.
@nk46345 жыл бұрын
Using laplace transform and fubini's theorem this integral reduces to a simple trig substitution problem.
@aakashkhamaru94033 жыл бұрын
I still remember my first year in college. It was filled with so many wonderful moments. This was not one of them.
@bigjosh25177 жыл бұрын
This integral's easy. Just pretend that all angles are small, replace sin(x) = x, the x's cancel so you're left with the integral of 1 :D
@NoActuallyGo-KCUF-Yourself7 жыл бұрын
Hard to justify with those zero to infy limits. ;-)
@AndDiracisHisProphet7 жыл бұрын
so, pi/2 \approx inf?
@kikones347 жыл бұрын
How can you pretend all angles are small? The angle goes to infinity o_O
@mike4ty47 жыл бұрын
@kikones34 : Yeah, that's the joke (note the ":D" grin at the end.). But it _does_ work for the _variable_-bound integral int_{0...x} sin(t)/t dt which, by the way, defines the standard mathematical function Si(x), the "sine integral" function, because you can then consider when all angles in the integration are small. If you take sin(t) ~ t then you say for _small_ x that int_{0...x} sin(t)/t dt ~ int_{0...x} t/t dt = int_{0...x} dt = x so Si(x) ~ x when x is small. And a Taylor expansion will show you that that makes sense, too: Si(x) = x - x^3/(3.3!) + x^5/(5.5!) - x^7/(7.7!) + x^9/(9.9!) - x^11/(11.11!) + ... so the first (lowest-order) term is x, thus at small x, Si(x) = x + O(x^3), meaning the rest vanishes like x^3.
@kikones347 жыл бұрын
@mike4ty4 Oh, sorry, I totally didn't get you were joking. I've been on a KZbin trip of flat earther videos before watching this, so I was in a mindset in which I assumed nonsensical statements are actually serious and not jokes xD.. D:
@redroach4015 ай бұрын
I found another way to solve his problem that feels more unique, alhough your solutions is much more straightfoward and intuative. I started by doing everything the same up until you get to I'(t) = -integral of sintheta times e^(-t*theta)d theta. Afterward, I turned sintheta into Im(e^(i*theta)). Hrn I used exponent laws to combine the exponentials and and take the integral from 0 to inf. Then I took i tegral on both sides and evaluated I(inf) to get c=0. Then I evaluted I(0) = -Im(ln(0-i)) = pi/2.
@jemcel03977 жыл бұрын
Believe in Math; Believe in the Pens; Believe in Black and Red Pens.
@blackpenredpen7 жыл бұрын
yay!!!!
@MrAssassins1176 жыл бұрын
Yes, i did It and i got 10 in my integral calculus exam :') two months ago !
@pranav21193 жыл бұрын
@@MrAssassins117 now 3 years ago lol
@_.Infinity._3 жыл бұрын
@@pranav2119 now 3 yrs and 14 hrs ago.
@bonbonpony7 жыл бұрын
Now it's time for the Gamma function and some other Euler integrals ;>
@deanna1137 жыл бұрын
Great videos, planning to recommend to my students but not a fan of notation x=inf or of plugging in x=inf. Students will do this without the understanding you have and will lead to some issues in calculating limits such as inf/inf =1. Please remember you're a role model :)
@rudboy95997 жыл бұрын
Deanna Baxter I always just plugged in infinity. Didn't lead to any misunderstandings. It's more cumbersome to take the limit, though it's technically correct. You first introduce indeterminate forms in order to avoid issues.
@Abdega7 жыл бұрын
Rudboy I agree, sadly sometimes students won't be lucky enough to get a grader who will be forgiving. I one time did that and the grader goes "While your final answer is correct, you can't just set something as infinity" There was another part of the problem where I got the answer correct, and they go "your answer in this part is correct *AND* your math is right, but you weren't supposed to get it that way" I ended up getting only half credit for that problem This was an assignment where we had to do ten problems but only *two* of them would be selected at random and graded so one quarter of my grade on that went out the window Needless to say, I was salty
@blackpenredpen7 жыл бұрын
Deanna Baxter if the students are interested in this integral in the first place, they should be ok and understanding this shorthand notation. Btw, a MIT professor also does that in his calc lectures for improper integral.
@blackpenredpen7 жыл бұрын
Here kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZnagn57lNmfmpI
@blackpenredpen7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching!! :)
@muratkaradag37032 жыл бұрын
We learned the Feynman-Spell in Theoretical Physics 1 and Mathematical Methods of Physics (TU Berlin). The teachers didn't mention, that this kind of integration and computation is the Feynman-Spell. They called it Integration with respect to a Parameter b !
@Lofila999 Жыл бұрын
💀I’m in 11th starting trying to learn this as my physics part needs it.
@qbtc Жыл бұрын
This technique is called "differentiating under the integral sign" and Feynman learned it from a book entitled Calculus For the Practical Man when he was a teen. Feynman didn't invent it but made it famous through his anecdotes.
@martinepstein98263 жыл бұрын
Great video. The e^(-bx) looks random until you realize that lots of these problems use the same parameterization. The answer is actually 42 though. Proof: summing the positive and negative regions under the curve we get a conditionally convergent series. Add positive terms until you exceed 42, then add negative terms until you go below 42, then add more positive terms until you exceed 42 again, etc. The sum will converge to 42 so this is the value of the integral. QED.
@eliteteamkiller3192 жыл бұрын
That was the most peaceful boss music I've ever heard. And it's definitely boss music when you're trying to integrate sin(x)/x
@PackSciences7 жыл бұрын
At 14:18 : You say that since e^-bx matters, the integral converges for all values of b >= 0. Well it's true for b > 0. The reasoning cannot work for b = 0 because it's slightly more complicated than that (but it converges too). Counter example : Integral from 0 to infinity of e^-bx/x dx doesn't converge for b = 0.
@footskills49537 жыл бұрын
Hi, this is Zachary Lee. You are absolutely right to be concerned about the convergence at b=0. What you want to do is let b approach 0 from the right. If you want a rigorous explanation, check out Appendix A, on page 21 of this document: www.math.uconn.edu/~kconrad/blurbs/analysis/diffunderint.pdf
@blackpenredpen7 жыл бұрын
Footskills here's the man!!!
@Cannongabang7 жыл бұрын
Yeah that was a brief explanation haahahhahaha
@footskills49537 жыл бұрын
And here I am again!!! Btw, great explanation!
@Tyns197 жыл бұрын
PackSciences your counter example should be rearranged as (e^(-b x)-1)/x Btw e^(-b x)/x diverges for all values of "b"
@stevemenegaz98244 жыл бұрын
This is the Dirichlet function and the Feynman technique is great way to solve it. Downside of Feynman technique is you cant plug and chug. The formulas have to be checked along the way for validity . Such is life. Thank you Pen(Black + Red)
@sharmisthaghosh90174 жыл бұрын
Please do some putnam integrals They are really tricky and also few tough integrals like these. I love watching your integration videos.
@paulg4442 жыл бұрын
"so lets draw the continuation arrow, which looks like an integral sign, that is so cool"... friends, this guy is pure gold !!!!
@benjaminbrady23857 жыл бұрын
These are so addicting to watch and I don't know why
@FilipeOliveira-ir1hb3 жыл бұрын
All the computations are only valid for b>0, because you need the exponencial to derive inside the integral under Lebesgue's domination Theorem. But at the end you do b=0. One further step is needed to show that I is continuous at 0. Note that this os not easy because |sin(x)/x| is not integrable, and therefore you cannot use standard continuity theorems as they require a domination hypothesis.
@FilipeOliveira-ir1hb3 жыл бұрын
Hello Alejo. Yes, I agree, but that is exacly my point. You need a more demanding theory (such as Denjoy integrability, among other possibilities) to justify the calculus presented in the video.
@damianmatma7084 жыл бұрын
What's also very Interesting, we could also use *Lobachevsky's integral formula* : *integral from 0 to +∞ of [ f(x) * (sin(x) / x) ] = integral from 0 to (π/2) of [ f(x) ]* So our example: integral from 0 to +∞ of [ (sin(x) / x) ] has *f(x)=1* :) Now we use Lobachevsky's integral formula: *integral from 0 to +∞ of [ f(x) * (sin(x) / x) ] = integral from 0 to (π/2) of [ f(x) ]* integral from 0 to +∞ of [ 1 * (sin(x) / x) ] = integral from 0 to (π/2) of [ 1 ] integral from 0 to +∞ of [ (sin(x) / x) ] = integral from 0 to (π/2) of [ 1 ] = x | computed from 0 to (π/2) = (π/2) - 0 = (π/2) *Answer:* integral from 0 to +∞ of [ (sin(x) / x) ] = *(π/2)* Mr Michael Penn made a video (entitled ) where he calculates that example using Lobachevsky's integral formula: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o2HSZ6N3mqiWgNU "Lobachevsky's integral formula and a nice application." Michael Penn
@camilincamilero5 жыл бұрын
There's a simpler way of calculating this integral. This funcion is really famous, is the sinc function, and is the fourier representation of an ideal low-pass filter, a rectangular function. The integration property of the Fourier transform tell us that the integral from minus infinity to infinity of a function in the time domain is equal to the frequency domain (or Fourier domain) representation of the function evaluated in 0. So, to calculate this integral, you just calculate the Fourier transform and just evaluate in 0, which gives you Pi. Of course, because of the integration limits, you get the result divided by 2.
@taraspokalchuk72564 жыл бұрын
this result is used to prove the convergent of fourier series though
@Ma2Ju7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing the trick with the e-function. Would not have seen this and could be very useful. When I did this problem for -inf to inf I did it with Fourier transformation by writing sinx/x as the fourier transformation of the rectangle function. After changing order of integration you get a delta distribution and the other integral collapses as well. Of course you get Pi at the end.
@blackpenredpen7 жыл бұрын
To be fair, Zach showed me (as I mentioned in the video).
@modenaboy3 жыл бұрын
Can you like a video twice? Just watched this again, and still awesome. Thanks for this!
@sandeepjha-iitkgp5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Least I can do is thank you for a great explanation!
@blackpenredpen5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@roy1660 Жыл бұрын
Instead use Fourier transform method, inverse Fourier transform of sampling function is gating function with parameters A and T
@bruno-tt7 жыл бұрын
Beautiful proof, thank you.
@restitutororbis9646 жыл бұрын
bruno edwards Yup, leibniz rule is very powerful.
@PunmasterSTP Жыл бұрын
sin(x)/x? More like "Super derivations that are always the best!" I know a lot of other comments say it, but I think this technique is just so cool, and it can take things beyond a lot of other integration videos. Thanks for sharing!
@franciscoabusleme90857 жыл бұрын
I knew this, but it is still awesome. More stuff like this pls!
@donnypassary57987 жыл бұрын
Just found your video from randomly browsing youtube, and I really like your enthusiastic way to explain those problem. I heard about this differentiation technique since I was a sophomore, but didn't get the "why" part: Why differentiation? Why new parameter? Why e^-bx? It's all make sense to me now thanks to your video. Keep up the good work!
@blackpenredpen7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Donny. You can also check out Zach's page in my description. He has a lot of great stuff there!
@mohanadou4 жыл бұрын
The best ever demonstration i've seen. I always thought this integral to be done by an algorithm based on the sum of trapezium areas which gives approximatively the same result as pi/2. Really amazing demo. The next question would be what is the primary function of integral of sin(x)/x dx ?
@Weisser_Adler3 жыл бұрын
I started to get interested in mathematics after seeing this integral before! Thank you for giving me the solution :)
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@blackpenredpen3 жыл бұрын
Of course I know 😆
@2070user3 жыл бұрын
ahhh, that's why the intro song is so familiar, k歌之王 by Eason Chan!
@zweiosterei7 жыл бұрын
My favorite mathtuber
@kakan1477 жыл бұрын
Love Feynman and this trick was cool and useful. You now have another subscriber :)
@blackpenredpen7 жыл бұрын
Wonderful!!!!!!!!
@Sam-hc4sd5 жыл бұрын
You are better than my professors!
@thomasg68307 жыл бұрын
The cut at 14:02 is kind of confusing.
@dhvsheabdh6 жыл бұрын
thomas g Just got to it, I reckon he's solved it already, then started talking about his steps and realised it'd fit better with the part where he was previously (in his timeline) talking about it.
@xxsamperrinxx39935 жыл бұрын
It's so he can outline that b has to be positive, and it probably makes the most sense to put the clip here
@1_adityasingh5 жыл бұрын
When u sleep on class
@user-en5vj6vr2u4 жыл бұрын
it spoiled the rest of the video
@anjaneyasharma3224 жыл бұрын
Think about this simple way Draw a graph of this function for 0 to pi. Find the value of 0 to pi/2. Forget the signs + or -- For example 1-1 or pi/2 - pi/2 Take the mod value and add It means Sin x 0 to pi means 4 each 0 to pi/2 is 1 Similarly for cost 0 to pi it is 4. See which is greater numerator or denominator and decide accordingly.. Calculus is meant for finding the area master the basics and you will not puzzled by tends to 0 or infinity Similarly for cos 0 to pi it is 4
@nayutaito94217 жыл бұрын
My mind was blown infinitely away
@blackpenredpen7 жыл бұрын
伊藤那由多 loll
@AbouTaim-Lille Жыл бұрын
Notice that Sinx/X is defined on the whole IR line since Sinx is an odd function and by using the Taylor expansion: Sinx/x = 1-x²/3!+ x⁴/5!- x⁶/7! +.... Which is defined at X=0 and is equal to 1.
@samiali24345 жыл бұрын
I came in just because i saw the name Feynman
@abdullahbinjahed69005 жыл бұрын
me too
@supriya14234 жыл бұрын
You got it ,me too
@姜威-p3y2 жыл бұрын
In fact, 1/x=\int_{0}^{+\infty}{e^{-xy}dy}. We can change one dimensional integral \int_{0}^{+\infty}{sin(x)/xdx} to a two dimensional integral and exchange integral order. First, integral with respective with x, int_{0}^{+\infty}{1/(1+y^2)dy}=pi/2, this is the answer.
@stephenmontes3497 жыл бұрын
make video on the squeze theorem, I bet you can make it interesting and to show all techniques
@blackpenredpen7 жыл бұрын
Paul Montes dr. Peyam is actually going to do that soon
@mtaur41134 жыл бұрын
Easier than solving for C is to write I integral from 0 to b of I' = I(b) - I(0) Left-hand side is ok even if you use a different antiderivative, as long as the choice on the left is self-consistent. Then you can take limit b to infty and solve for I(0)
@alkankondo897 жыл бұрын
The content on your page is always so informative, and your excitement for the math you show is contagious. By the way, have you considered making a Patreon page? I would gladly support! Also, how sneaky of you to wear the "Basic" shirt that has the lowercase-delta on it, foreshadowing the partial derivatives you use in the video.
@blackpenredpen7 жыл бұрын
LOL! Thanks! In fact, that wasn't planned. lolllll
@jadegrace13127 жыл бұрын
Thats not a lowercase Delta
@rv11117 жыл бұрын
Here comes the paid publishing
@ngouchuy40162 жыл бұрын
You really save life via KZbin
@jackchai58087 жыл бұрын
Please do more video about the Feynman Techniques Thanks a lot
@blackpenredpen7 жыл бұрын
Jack Chai ok
@Aramil47 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! I was thinking literally just the other day that I hope you'd make a Feynman technique video and, as through magic, here it is! Would really love to see more videos about alternative / advanced techniques.
@MagnusSkiptonLLC7 жыл бұрын
Who else reads his shirt as "partial asics"?
@ΝίκοςΒογιατζόγλου5 жыл бұрын
It's the first time I see this way of integration and I'm amazed!
@carultch2 жыл бұрын
Does theta stand for anything particular in Greek, relating to angles? Or is it just an arbitrary letter that has historically been used for representing angles similar to how x and y represent Cartesian coordinate variables? Probably, the reason x/y/z are used for representing Cartesian coordinate variables, is that it is the trio of neighboring letters in the alphabet, that is LEAST likely to stand for anything in particular, and therefore they are letters used as wildcards.
@johnnygodoy83296 жыл бұрын
I found it easier to first complexify the integral and then use the Feynman Trick. Define F(z)=int from 0 to inf of e^-zx/x, so you have to find Im[F(-i)]. When differentiating and then integrating with respect to z you get F(z)=-ln(z)+C for Re[z]>=0, or F(-i)=ln(i)+C. One would usually try to calculate C by evaluating at 1, but it's easier to notice that for any positive real number x F(x) is an integral of a real function, and is therefore real, and ln(x) is also real, so C must be real too. This way when you take the imaginary part of both sides (which one has to do anyway), you get rid of C, killing two birds in one stone, so Im[F(-i)]=Im[ln(i)]=Im[iπ/2]=π/2
@2kchallengewith4video Жыл бұрын
Where do I learn this power?
@jamesbentonticer47064 жыл бұрын
One of the best videos on this great channel. Beautiful.
@markigolnikov61756 жыл бұрын
When he reversed derivative on I(b) by integrating (14:45 min ) and evaluated result as b went to infinity and got zero for that limit-his argument failed. You only get zero if b>0, not if b=0. If b=0 you don't get zero as x goes to infinity-you get divergence
@usdescartes4 жыл бұрын
You can recover it, however, with just a little more rigor. Instead of evaluating I(0), find limb->0 I(b). Then, just keep using the limit notation until the end. The original integral is actually equal to limb->0 I(b) = Pi/2, so no real harm done.
@lantonovbg Жыл бұрын
In fact, the integral from minus infinity to infinity of sin(x)/x IS equal to Pi. It is called Dirichlet integral. Thanks, ChatGPT
@87962051905 жыл бұрын
Hi professor, You are doing great...
@blackpenredpen5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@nathanryan12 Жыл бұрын
That’s really neat! The Leibniz rule for bringing differentiation inside an integral is a bit mysterious at first sight.
@suhaimimazed11367 жыл бұрын
The kids' laugh made me forget the stress of trying to understanding how you solve it. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@blackpenredpen7 жыл бұрын
Mazed Suhaimi yay!!!!
@TheJerusalemite7 жыл бұрын
Regarding C calculation. It should be noted that arctan(inf) = pi/2 + n*pi; n = 0,1,2,3,4,...
@SanjeevKumar-js4mu5 жыл бұрын
No . Check the domain of arctan.
@SanjeevKumar-js4mu5 жыл бұрын
Arctan(x)doesn't mean imagine an angle for which tan(€)=x.
@NoActuallyGo-KCUF-Yourself7 жыл бұрын
Can you recommend a good proof of Liebniz Rule to follow? It seems like one of those simple/obvious things that would actually have an interesting/ instructive proof.
@Timelaser0016 жыл бұрын
The first time I've seen someone so excited about math!
@blackpenredpen6 жыл бұрын
Lol! Thank you!!!!!
@wontpower7 жыл бұрын
You said "isn't it" correctly :')
@blackpenredpen7 жыл бұрын
I did, isn't it! hehehe
@SanjeevKumar-js4mu5 жыл бұрын
@@blackpenredpen didn't I
@1_adityasingh5 жыл бұрын
@@SanjeevKumar-js4mu lol
@liamwatts71055 жыл бұрын
There is a much faster way. On the second line you've shown I(b) = L{sinx/x} (laplace transform) and we know the identity that L{f(x)/x} = integral from s to ∞ of L{f(x)} ds L{sin(x)} = 1/(1 + s^2), then integrating that gives tan-1(∞) - tan-1(s) So I(b) = 𝜋/2 - tan-1(s) I(0) = 𝜋/2
@yuchenwang6795 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm a bit rusty, but don't you need to prove uniform convergence before bringing the differentiation sign inside the integral?
@MsMaciekk5 жыл бұрын
I think you're right. I was thinking the same
@andy-p3d2i5 жыл бұрын
Does it help? I am not an expert in the field (yet): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leibniz_integral_rule
@user-wu8yq1rb9t3 жыл бұрын
I love this video, for many reasons. When I watching it, I just enjoyed. Thank you so much for this.
@Czeckie7 жыл бұрын
the only problem is that the computation is not justified. Leibniz rule is not stated for improper integrals. If you want it to use for improper integrals, you have to justify all the exchanges of limits that arise.
@Czeckie7 жыл бұрын
No. It's more complicated. If you want to use Leibniz rule for improper integrals, the integral has to be absolutely convergent, but int sin(x)/x is not. You need to do more work, see Lang's Undergraduate analysis for example, this case is treated there (but the last part left as an exercise).
@jadegrace13127 жыл бұрын
Czeckie isnt integral sinx/x absolutely convergent for all values except x=0 and x=infinity/negative infinity, and we know it converges for int [0,inf] sin(x)/x because of the graph, you could use the infinite sum for the integral
@martinepstein98266 жыл бұрын
Joshua you're talking about whether limiting values of the function f(x) = (sin x)/x exist, not whether the integral of the function is convergent. Czeckie is referring to the convergence of a sequence like [int f(x) from 0 to pi, int f(x) from 0 to 2pi, int f(x) from 0 to 3pi, ...] which is conditionally convergent but not absolutely convergent.
@turbopotato45757 жыл бұрын
Nice. I only knew how to do it using the gamma function. But proving that that takes way to much time to only be used for a specific integral
@ClumpypooCP7 жыл бұрын
Lmao the "isn't it" in the thumbnail
@aintaintaword6664 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't mind more explanations at 10:00... I mean, all the rest is more or less technicalities, but that was the crucial part of the whole thing
@亨亨-y5v7 жыл бұрын
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@blackpenredpen7 жыл бұрын
Isaac TNT yes
@__-rs8kr4 жыл бұрын
blackpenredpen man of culture
@venkybabu8140 Жыл бұрын
Write as 1/sinx/x . Expand 1/x^ 2 series and use Pi/2.
@executorarktanis23234 жыл бұрын
13:19 that is cool
@kaistrandskov Жыл бұрын
This was absolutely fascinating! I love the concept of multiplying by a function that we will later set to be 1 when the time is right. Let's see if I can summarize: The goal is to cancel that x on the bottom of F(x). 1. Multiply by a function I(b) that will later become I(0) = 1. Make sure to pick an I(b) where I'(b) yields a handy x in the numerator. 2. Take the partial derivative of I(x) with respect to b. This yields an x in the numerator of I'(b). 3. Cancel the x in the numerator and denominator. This is the important step to get rid of x in the denominator. 4. Now, Integrate I'(b) so that we get back to I(b) 5. But I(b) has a C in it. What the heck is C? 6. Look at a useful value of x so that we can figure out what C is, namely x=inf, and solve for C. 7. Now, we can integrate F(x) where I(0) = 1 without that pesky x in the denominator. 8. Party!