Blacksmithing - Titanium Shucker or Not

[@maddash9070]

Chandler I’ve decided that I’m just going to make a forge and quit only watching people on videos. You started with that shitty outside forge and made it work. You made some neat stuff and taught me all kinds of things in your videos. Including if you can do it anyone can. So this is the year. Keep experimenting and learning for us all. Like you say in almost all your videos “hey let’s try it!”.

[@gregoryray4253]

I want to thank you. Thank you for all the hard work you do. Thank you for talking us thru the process. Thank you for showing us your successes as well as your failures. You teach me with every video. I have watched your videos for 2 years, and you have been a blessing for me. You have given me a hobby that I can enjoy and that I can use to help my wife in hers (she makes bourbon barrel crafts). So you have helped give us common ground. I hope that the people that put you down enjoy their perfection, but for me and my home I will support you and yours. I would rather watch you and your honesty, as opposed to any pious twerp out there. So maybe you don’t do things the same way as others. That doesn’t make your work any less impressive. Your decretive work amazes me. The rams heads are great. Enough of the bromance! Thanks for 2years of education, and showing that the school of hard knocks is still the best education in the land. Keep it up brother!

[@dougontheotherchannel3078]

Personally, I came and stayed for the "hey lets try it". The internet is lousy with smithing vids. The only two smith channels i follow are you and Green Beetle because you both have an interesting process and are not afraid to fail.

[@CountyLineForge]

Have you checked out my channel yet? I have over 120 videos up...maybe you will like what you see...I also take video requests...Chandler is one of the reasons I got into doing videos on my work...because he isn't affraid to try new things...much like myself

[@bretlemieux4533]

You should check out Alex steel he is pretty good too

[@adamking2922]

I only watch Chandler and Alec Steele just wish Alec did longer videos but Chandler the best oh and Mike cthulu but he isn't a blacksmith

[@paulorchard7960]

Love Chandler, green Beetle hey, I will look him up, if anything like Chandler I will watch! Don’t worry Chandler, I’m not dumping you, will always be watching!

[@SharpWorks]

1 hour video? Chandler, you spoil us!

[@CountyLineForge]

Glad to see you swinging the hammer brother

[@spoplehughes]

well i for one bloody enjoyed watching , we are all behind you chandler

[@arch5281]

It's great seeing you back in front of the camera Chandler, Always enjoy watching you , keep them coming

[@mackdog3270]

Hey, good to see you again! I enjoy your videos and hope you keep it up. 👍

[@cuban9splat]

Greetin's Chandler. Very interesting subject. It was also a good learning experience for you and for me. The reason you are my favorite channel is that you are not afraid to try something new. If you fail, that is okay because you SAY you failed then try to figure out what went wrong. You never try to BS your way through the video. Great job. Thanks for posting it. Keep them coming.

[@ddayinvader6487]

Keep up the good work!!! You cant learn unless you fail first!

[@josephkrug8579]

Always glad to see you try new things. There is a lot of info on the web on forging it, but I have no expertise in it myself...life in a condo does not for forging noise work well.

[@Justapotato14]

I loved the "oh" moment at the end

[@jimdavis4342]

Hell, the most important thing is to have a good time. I hope you did. I certainly had a good time watching.

[@Pseud0rand0m]

Sweet! A Chandler video....its a good day!

[@d.j.9961]

Hey Chandler, New subscriber here, I know that I have not been a sub long enough to have any opinion but, What I think would be awesome material is simply vids on your tooling! Not everybody has the space, tools, nor the skill to manipulate metal nor, the intestinal fortitude to do so & stick with it until a project is complete! I grew up inside of a shop & I love tools & the wonder of what can be done with each! If your ever looking for content, You have plenty simply sitting around your shop!!!

[@jnlaf]

good to see you back...

[@matthewhays4897]

"we skaneateles" haha high class. great vid as always

[@joshsmith9558]

Hey man I hope you are doing well. Love watching your videos, keep em coming and hopefully your metal state will stay even keeled

[@PantsMan13]

"We're high class now, man."

[@terrymunroe13]

Good to see you back at it again .

[@robinborkowski5598]

Chandler I have been a subscriber of yours for years . I have three issues with his video . 1. titanium,,,,,,, 2 the types of knives used for shucking clams and oysters . 3 the art of shucking. No# 1 I have probably over 300 hours of working with titanium . It was almost all , fixing titanium rods used for tempering ball bearings . I tried to forge thing with it and always got the same results you got. I always had cracks, always. there my be smiths out there that know how to work it but I don't and I think I tried everything , but always failure. So don't feel bad. No# 2 I come from the coast of Connecticut ,where clams and oysters are plentiful , and I consume about 12 to 15 dozen clams raw every summer and a couple dozen oysters. the knives for shucking clams and those for shucking oysters are completely different in design. What you made was a clam knife , and it wasn't bad. But the blade should be very thin and very sharp,I'll explain why when we get to shucking. An oyster knife looks like a Minnie dagger 3 inch blade with a blade guard, the blade comes to a sharp point . Point #3 shucking. not a task you should try without instruction from at least a friend . shucking is not easy. I only know how to shuck clams. Oysters are another art. i don't know how to shuck oysters . but clams ,yes, first how you hold the clam in your left hand , how you hold your knife in your right hand and then , and most important how you " pull the edge into the clam with the finger of your left hand . You never push with your right hand, good way to lose your fingers. It can't be descried only demonstrated . But once you love clams or oysters ,,,, its like drugs ..... you just have to have them. would love to teach you more but I have to go.

[@davidwatsonii9469]

ALWAYS GLAD TO SEE YOUR VIDEOS

[@sicdigz80]

love your vids Dude, keep doing what you do!

[@mikegrizzle6864]

If you ever played the goofball this was it LOL love you Chandler

[@edwardmartin1831]

Dude My sides are broken have not laughed so hard in a long time Got a lot out of the video Try your hardest and then try again Hope all gets better for you GODSPEED MY FRIEND EDWARD

[@phantomwraith7289]

hey buddy welcome back been waiting for ya next vid

[@WobblycogsUk]

I love it when you try something new and different, that's what got me watching your channel in the first place. Anyway, I'm well outside my area of knowledge here but it looks like titanium alloys come in three basic flavours, alpha, alpha-beta and beta. From what I've just read I think only beta alloys would be workable in a forge by hand. As for toxicity I wouldn't worry about titanium dioxide (the majority of the stuff flaking off) as it's used in food, E171 if you are interested. The alloying compounds though might be a different matter, I'd treat them with caution until you know better.

[@digitaIgorilla]

Take the positive. Like you said, you now know you like oysters. Forget the fact you forged Notanium. It was still a good video Chandler.

[@lowellhurst9695]

love your work my man!

[@JerseyJimFish]

The knife goes into the hinge( the angular or pointy end) when sucking oysters. Entertaining video.

[@kevinkp7779]

Great video Chandler. Raw oysters are delicious.

[@jaksilver3656]

Sparked like titanium, hammered like titanium. You definitely got a different grade

[@miketurner6118]

cracked me up,,,,thar was awesome dude

[@jeremiahlandin2978]

I am one of your 174,000 subscribers and watch all of your videos. Keep up the good work!! Maybe hydrogen absorption?

[@kindwolf9949]

The sparks thrown while grinding appeared to be right for titanium, or an alloy of titanium. (extremely bright white spark)

[@Frie_Jemi]

a few answers say too low heat, probably, atmosphere contaminating it, also likely. but i think the comment on your normalization was on point. i've seen successful forging of Titanium where they complained it air hardened to the point of embrittlement as it cooled

[@armadilloforge]

Grade 1 or 5 I bet. I made a few fire steels (strikers for flint and steel kits). Stress reliving should be at around 1100 to 1300°F for one to two hours. If you are worried about it. Then air cooled, I just use wood ashes, throw it in and leave it over night. Makes a good white hot sparks with a piece of flint.

[@lucalaferla6601]

No idea about titanium, but if you can please keep the videos up, you have gained subs in the last month

[@Silentspeaker3]

Possibly an alloy; might look into buying some commercially pure titanium (Grades 1 or 2) so you have a verifiable reference point for the future. Somewhat costly, but worth it as a standard to be used for future projects.

[@mikenichols1334]

yes you pry at the hinge, good job on the knife

[@1957rainman]

Cobalt steel is a variation of high speed steel with a higher content of cobalt. Common grades are M-35 and M-42, having 5% and 8% respectively. These steels are ideal for cutting tools because they have a high red hardness that gives it much higher heat resistance.

[@scienceaddict77]

Yeah, there's definitely different grades. Some titanium I tried working developed cracks every time I tried to work it. Drives me mad. There's just about as many titanium alloys as there are steel alloys, some just don't want to be forged.

[@sonotthere]

titanium dioxide is a widely used white pigment. and if pure you also use it for coloring in some foods, often hard candy. don't know if that rod is alloyed with anything. but i don't suggest trying that last one. but is practically non poisonous. titanium is also a good biometal, meaning it integrate well with the body and have a low change of coursing inflammations. ofthe use to pin and brace broken bones back into place.

[@ColtaineCrows]

Also very often used in dental stuff, like those screws they insert in your jaw when you get a fake tooth installed.

[@scienceaddict77]

Bone implants too, got a titanium hip replacement somewhere...

[@christophernewton2579]

Also is a filler and pigment in many pharmaceutical's

[@DragonHide94]

Someone else (Rick Reiff) commented about contaminants that can hurt titanium, and I think that is probably a factor as well as not knowing what grade of titanium it is. I agree with his recommendation of using a gas forge for your next project with this bar of Ti. I don't know much about forging titanium except what I have learned from a very small handful of videos on KZbin, but I doubt that it is not Titanium due to the sparks while grinding. It is definitely not 300 series stainless. I've forge some, and there are a couple things that you will notice. 1: 304 stainless (what I forged) is pretty easy to forge and doesn't have to be worked at orange/yellow heats and above. 2: it doesn't produce much forge scale (that's a similarity) but what it will produce is a greenish residue at high heat. That is chromium oxides, and it's not good. Titanium may not be very toxic to humans, even when forging it, but chromium is, and you will notice the difference. 3: Titanium is distinct for its bright white spark, as compared to the orange to yellow spark of steel or iron. Most stainless steels will not produce as many sparks or as bright of sparks as carbon steel, so it is not stainless steel.

[@xeroinfinity]

their are several types of titanium kinda like steel. i heated a piece once to orange hot, 3# hammer didnt even scratch it! heated to white hot and it exploded a hot fury mess. but i had a titanium hip someone gave me and it worked better but still was prone to cracking. after heat treating it was very hard, just difficult to properly work IMO. it sparks like titanium. Also it can be dangerous breathing the dust from sanding/grinding. You made a nice shucker though and it worked as intended. keep hammering it out.

[@murdoch451]

Hey there Chandler glad to see that you have met a partner, was worried for you for some time back to the days of hunting steak out of season with a bow and arrow, you do know that oysters put lead in your pencil, your idea or hers.

[@JETWTF]

I am kinda curious if hot filing would speed the process of grinding up. Anywho many people think items made from titanium is expensive because titanium is more expensive compared to steel. What they don't take into account is just how light titanium is, buying $20 worth of titanium gets you 5+ times as much material as you would get with steel. That evens out the cost of materials. The reason titanium products are more expensive is time in working it and the cost for consumables and tools to work it. That was titanium, a titanium alloy to be specific. Your chopper was more pure titanium. Like steel, titanium alloys have specific wants when being forged. You could send some of it to a metallurgist to get the exact alloy and then find out the specifics on what it's use is and how it wants to be worked or you could put it in the scrap metal bin in the shop as an unknown alloy.

[@ArthurEKing8472]

Interesting video, and I'm glad to see you back after a while! If I had to guess IF it's titanium, then titanium alloy is an air-hardening alloy, and it needs to be worked at a little bit of a higher temperature, so it's possible that you just worked it a little too cold? I'm no expert at these things by any stretch of the imagination though.

[@dreadthemadsmith]

The sparks show Titanium is at least in it. That's a problem with gifted metal. You never quite know what you're getting.

[@wallacedavis8922]

Thanks Chandler i enjoyed this video

[@Blacksheep1B]

Hey Chandler about that titanium. I am no expert by any means. The grade of titanium I worked with at my old plating facility we would have to remove the surface of the titanium to regain its strength after it was superheated. The layer on the top we knew it as alpha case. When heated the alpha case would come to the surface and form a shell around the material. That shell is ultra brittle, and would need to be removed with an acid bath. Once the shell is removed the piece regains its strength.

[@Blacksheep1B]

In metallurgy, alpha case is the oxygen-enriched surface phase that occurs when titanium and its alloys are exposed to heated air or oxygen. Alpha case is hard and brittle, and tends to create a series of microcracks which will reduce the metal's performance and its fatigue properties. Not my definition but better explained than me haha.

[@purplealice]

You don't have to eat your oysters raw - you can steam them, bake them, broil them, fry them, or cook them a bunch of other ways (there are recipes online, of course). I do hope you enjoy your oysters - your shucking tool looks very useful.

[@swdweeb]

Love you man!

[@thatwelder3211]

I would of easily bought that for 150. The crack made it Chandler. But as always good vid & never laughed so freaking hard. It got me when you said "This is the good part. It's probably piss"🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@mrchrysler9736]

Would it be possible to forge a forge weld Damascus bowl?

[@pocobuen]

great vid man - you take care now +1

[@kevinkp7779]

The juice is delicious too.

[@purplealice]

An oyster or clam shucker doesn't need to have a super-sharp blade - it's used for PRYING the shell open. It has to be something that won't bend under pressure. Titanium is strong and hard, but very light - and it's non-toxic (I have titanium dental implants!) It looks as if you've may have a piece of titanium-steel alloy there, and I'm interested in seeing what you make by the end of the video.

[@garfoonga1]

try rolling oysters in a bowl of corn starch and pan fry with butter then squeeze a lemon wedge over it. Best oyster in the world

[@agiantfrog]

titanium at small diameters is slightly weaker than stainless steel, but that's in terms for pins in leg joints, so i don't know how it would translate here. Also, titanium often is in the form of an alloy that is heat-treatable and so will have similar physical properties to steel, the real tell for titanium is the weight. it will feel extremely light.

[@nogoodcops6557]

Where you at, brother?

[@TheStraycat74]

sparked like titanium, might be an alloy. but that forge error weakened it. made me wanna try oysters (never brave enough before). Enjoy the oysters!

[@joshd2013]

Woo hoo new Chandler video day just got better and yes the juice is good I always try and save it

[@nicholasstephenson573]

This video was made in loving memory of Chandler's knuckles.

[@murdoch451]

Tis what it tis what it tis.

[@adampierce1086]

Possible it’s not pure titanium or maybe somewhere in the heat treat process it becomes brittle. Anyways enjoy seeing the videos no matter what.

[@rlolee2042]

Hey there chandler back to the basics

[@ro8v28]

F#ing roll of snot doesn't roll down my throat! Lolrotflol

[@JF-fx2qv]

Failure is how we learn. Info. shared by others teaches not to repeat history.

[@MrZaphry]

You did damn fine job with that one, shame that the metal was all crap. Wonder what it was.

[@jensdavidsen4557]

Well I'm going with it being a different alloy of Ti... because yeah...those sparks were definitely Ti-looking

[@Steve_Just_Steve]

Like you said when grinding it, there's only one thing that grinds that hard and sparks like that. There's all different grades of Titanium and I'm sure forging has all different effects on it.

[@Justapotato14]

Depending on the alloy if titanium, it's used in medical implants/ joint replacements

[@dougontheotherchannel3078]

Did m. night shyamalan direct this video??

[@wild_willy_from_twin_city4526]

Different grades?

[@paulorchard7960]

Damn you Chandler, at my age laughter can cause me to wet myself, I think I just did! No worry, payback is a bitch, in years to come, when it happens to you, just remember, I’m up there laughing at you! Again!

[@ronthacker211]

Was going to order dozen #6 when in New Orleans one time when the wife stopped me. Wonder why?!? LOL.

[@bigfootandbananaman4746]

It makes such a weird noise when you hit it. It sounds much harder that steel when it is hot

[@MrMCTario]

I think titanium is slightly weaker than steel (depending on how it's used). Ti is much lighter though so it's much stronger by the pound. You should use a pointed shucker in the hinge to open an oyster. If you can wedge it in far enough and twist it will release. Then scrape the bottom and top to release the oyster. My friend works at an oyster company and that's what he's taught me.

[@steveadams8438]

Man you got me...I think maybe it's some sort of titanium alloy.. Wonder what would happen if you normalized it a time or two..Hard to know since it's non magnetic.

[@Curtislow2]

The next time your in Mobile,AL I'll educate you on how to eat oysters.

[@TheSighGuy]

Check it with a magnet!

[@wd40hellyea9]

Maybe the normalization did something to the tinsel strength

[@jackdawg4579]

Chandler "snot gobbling" Dickson! Don't care what they taste like, will never be passing my lips! Looks like "mystery titanium" is about as useful as "mystery steel"!

[@dougontheotherchannel3078]

Is Chandler drunk at the end? lol

[@ianturpin9180]

There is no such thing as failure. Only a learning experience. Oyster shuckers are usually arrow shaped not knife shaped

[@ColtaineCrows]

It's very likely some kind of Titanium alloy, well most "titanium" is in an alloy form anyway. Straight titanium corrodes down to oxides pretty quick iirc.

[@anthonyhart1995]

chandler would they taste good sober lol...

[@akivameola2558]

You alright man?? You dont seem too hot nowadays man.

[@BeerZerkeraidean]

Dude try and raise that anvil 3'' I bet stuff would get wicked straight. maybe even 1''

[@marcelojaviertwt]

ARE YOU ALL RIGHT?

[@rom65536]

Judging by the sparks, yeah it's likely titanium. Titanium comes in different grades, and the grades have very different hardening procedures. Titanium typically is age hardened. A quick google search of "how to harden titanium" will explain it better than I ever could.

[@nicholasstephenson573]

Titanium is an air quinching metal i think.

[@dougontheotherchannel3078]

When people from Louisiana learn how the internet works they are probably going to be pissed about the accent at 46:03

[@stevenjohnson2273]

😂

[@joshsmith9558]

Also it's probably a magnesium based metal

[@mruberkinger8701]

Nah it´s Titanium allright.

[@ragge13]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanium_alloy

[@VICTORYOVERNEPTUNE]

Titanium dioxide is in powered donuts.

[@grendelshooter4556]

What did I just watch?

[@borttorbbq2556]

Titanium is non toxic

[@travislayh6586]

Good try, at least it worked. Hope you didn't lose too much sleep over it.