5 DEVS Make a GAME without COMMUNICATING! (Gangster edition)

[@Blackthornprod]

Who is excited for 100 devs make a game without communicating? Make sure to subscribe so you don't miss it guys!

[@NSA.]

When is it ???

[@Blackthornprod]

@@NSA. before the end of the year

[@shocochells]

christmas special⁉

[@Blackthornprod]

@@shocochells Got a different video planned for christmas!

[@nallek3]

@@Blackthornprod THATS TOO LONG😭

[@OfficialMadman1429]

Changing the name from “Ghosting Hour” to “Gangster Table” has got to be rage bait

[@naolidecomisso4108]

It was the equivalent exchange to have such cold awesome art.

[@naolidecomisso4108]

@@OfficialMadman1429 also, did thorn even know the game was suppose to be called that tho? Cuz apparently dual just put the name on the doc and he didnt recived that.

[@drarko91]

Typical of Balckthorn... disapointed

[@Atropos148]

@@naolidecomisso4108 i assume it was written in the game design document, which was just read by thorn as well. That sounds like communication tho, which makes the name of the video a bit of a clickbait

[@Atropos148]

i swear there is one per video on purpose

[@Inveestigator]

Ghosting Hour is a WAY BETTER name then Gangster Table

[@notcarte]

he probably wasn’t given the game doc

[@pivicle]

Than*

[@Inveestigator]

@@pivicle true 😔

[@idkis_thename4438]

​@@pivicle😭

[@lazyfrog3987]

I wish they kept the blue and red theme the protagonist and antagonist had also shouldn't have changed the name because "The Ghosting Hour" had a more mysterious noir aesthetic than "Gangster Table" and was a good play on words since you're also some sort of ghost/spirit being able to possess another body. I feel like way more could've been done with the concept and feel bad for the sound designer since most of their sounds weren't used.

[@Pope_]

to be fair to the sound designer, he went above and beyond and made enough sounds for any genre, and in the timeframe he knew there was very little chance all the sounds where used. It would be cool if the project was open sourced though, i would like to see where a independent dev pushes the game without limits.

[@DeletedDevilDeletedAngel]

@@Pope_ what about a sound pack?

[@EncontheCrow]

Yeah the name change was disappointing so generic. They probably could've used more sounds but that time limit restricts how much they can do. I hope if they do post or sell these games they at least refine them more before release. Like making an interesting video to market out devs and their classes along with a unique game and creation is fine, but releasing these as is in any way seems sorta questionable.

[@ITR]

I assume he didn't have access to the game design document and simply didn't know the name of the game.

[@agentseptember7185]

Sound designer should go 4th imo. No logic to designing sounds before there is a game.

[@Kev.NTheLich]

It's great to see that the composing was so good that every immediately understood the mood and vibe of the game.

[@Beck99]

Holy, that composing was amazing!

[@avizi_]

The music was straight fire

[@KoenVisser-yn3yx]

Ikr i wish the ghosting hour song is out anywhere so that i can listen to it

[@SSNikolai-]

​@@KoenVisser-yn3yxsameeee I need it lol

[@LiterallyLaser]

@@KoenVisser-yn3yx its on lighthoof's channel

[@ntPingu]

​@@KoenVisser-yn3yx it is on Dryden's channel and also it'll come to Spotify

[@yoyo-1-I]

Lighthoof Dryden really is a goat ! just the fact that he can play multiple instrument as clean as possible, do some process to make god tier soundtracks, and do some vocal too is insane !

[@JettSoule]

and bro makes games like that is insane.

[@yoyo-1-I]

@JettSoule for real !

[@wiilli4471]

Shame he has no idea what a roguelike is. His game is a roguelite, not a roguelike. Anything in real time is not a roguelike, none of these people have even played rogue.

[@micheal7932]

Imaging being the second to last Dev to work on a game and seeing that there's literally no code whatsoever. Just a bunch of music, sound effects, and a laundry-list of ideas that haven't been play-tested.

[@ThatHolyGamer]

Yeah they need atleast more than 1 programmer.

[@EncontheCrow]

@@ThatHolyGamer Yup you need one to set up all the foundational coding and one to refine the code at least. I kinda wish they would have open playtests so the community can interact with devs and the channel somewhat. Do tweaks from the feedback and release these for free or priced based on how good the game is and amount of work put in overall. Because we all know some of these would be Indie hits and make alot of money refined more. Others...well lets say whoever made the last big changes are really the devs because a good chunk of the work people put in it gets either scrapped completely or used entirely as a stepping stool several times over. If only some efforts effect the game outcome no one should get a penny for any of it as you basically worked and wasted time for free. Really starting to notice a underhanded tone with BTP of being kinda cheezy-schemey for clout and Tube money and having devs do work for free because they get "exposure" in return.

[@jackawaka]

I feel this was the goal though, Designing the game around the theme instead of the theme around the game.

[@DualWielded]

You're not alone, the cigars also caught me by surprise

[@Kniby]

Lol

[@ridleycox2968]

French diet

[@gcstudios9091]

​@@ridleycox2968"Well, off to visit your mother!"

[@DambibimbusT-rex-lt9qx]

I was caught suprise by the hisoka on a shirt of the second guy

[@haedrius9363]

New vídeo when? 🧐

[@LighthoofDryden]

This was such an irresistible prompt, thanks for having me back!! Y’all went so hard and BEYOND captured the vibe I was hoping for

[@tiacool7978]

Watching your part makes me wish I had learned an instrument.

[@dunno-z8l]

how can one person be so talented at multiple things? looking forward to disinherited 🥰

[@1cesp1kes747]

You should release the OST on listening platforms :O!!!!

[@sailorkisser]

YOU ARE INCREDIBLY TALENTED Can't wait to hear the full OST for Disinherited

[@dukchiken4763]

please do release the songs

[@ShorteDev]

Starting the game's creation through sound was rather unique I'd say, haha

[@LighthoofDryden]

You went so hard on those SFX, making so many in such a short time all from scratch like that 🤯

[@ShorteDev]

It was way too fun 😆 I just couldn't stop until I noticed that I've made like 100 sounds But the music you did was literally INSANE! 🔥 I instantly understood what the game could be about after listening to the tracks for the first few seconds

[@Will_Forge]

Destiny was also made this way, sort of. Bungie wasn't planning to make another Halo style shooter, and was toying around with ideas so chaotic that Marty was just twiddling his thumbs. So he made something he called "The Song of the Spheres" which was a small album's worth of music to capture a unique vibe and help unify the team's vision. They all loved it and pushed forward with it. Most of the music was then vetoed by Activision as producer influence and didn't make it into the game, but that music was the spiritual backbone that helped bring the devs in line and design what ultimately became Destiny 1 and later 2. So yeah it's kind of odd, but it clearly works as a directional through-line tool for a gentle guidance in place of true direction. Perfect for this series.

[@LighthoofDryden]

@@Will_Forge wow, I didn’t know about this at all, that’s a very cool story. It follows that Destiny’s vibes were so strong

[@Will_Forge]

@@LighthoofDryden You can find that music online, too. I think I was wrong and it's Music of the Spheres, not "song". But yeah Marty uploaded it to YT and then had to take it down by Bungie's demand. But others have reuploaded it since so if you want to listen it's out there. But anyway yeah the story is the more relevant part. It's cool stuff! 😆

[@Ilzhain]

My only real critiques would be that 'Ghosting Hour' is a way better title, the font choice is a little tacky feeling and the UI is a bit too large and cluttered which pulls away from the really nice art. Also would've fit the vibe better if the cards looked like actual cards and not floating translucent rectangles.

[@mattpresley9809]

I swear Blackthorn always makes the most controversial, no one asked for, additions to these dev games lmao.

[@eggegg6448]

Most controversial = more comments = algorthm loves = more views sadly :(

[@archniki_]

Nah ruined game doesn't help the game itself. Sometimes you can lend joke without ruining everything

[@JDon_Official]

@@eggegg6448unfortunate reality

[@stephenlee1108]

"Ghosting Hour" was such a great name for the premise of the game. He's definitely just doing it for engagement at this point 'cause that was just bad.

[@tnt3t]

10:30 I like the glowing eyes, although i wish it'd be more subtle like the hat covering one eye while the other slightly glowed, maybe that's just me

[@covereye5731]

He has skill, but between the raining blood, blood smears on everything and naming the game Gangster Table, there's this odd tackiness that seeps into everything BTD makes. Subtlety is definitely something he could use if that is something he can learn.

[@tnt3t]

​​@@covereye5731 Damn😂 Fair point though, I don't know why he changed the already planned name, Because 'Ghosting hour' goes sooooo hard

[@corbintheintern6229]

Dev 2: Game is called Ghosting Hour BTP: Nah it's Gangster Table now. An objectively worse name but who cares because it's MY channel

[@jacobdudzik1307]

Yup, if they ever post the game it needs to be titled ghosting hour yeesh.

[@ItsTheRealAbrahamLincoln]

Exactly

[@sydn2698]

BTP has a big ego.

[@rage_2000]

Can we just collectively agree to call it Ghosting Hour?

[@ITR]

He probably just didn't know it was called that. If he didn't have access to the game design doc, and the programmer didn't put it anywhere in the project, how would he know? Also possible it was somewhere he missed. People really love to just assume the worst in a series where "not communicating" is the whole point

[@silchasruin4487]

Not surprised that BTP broke one of the rules they made when they're part of the dev team. Each Dev is not allowed to change what the previous Dev has made, only add to it/build off of it. Ghosting Hour as a song and a title followed the theme way better than the title Gangster Table which is too on the nose and doesn't really tell you anything which isn't obvious.

[@smallbag123]

No, you're not allowed to REMOVE stuff but you cam change.

[@talluna8619]

yeah, hugely agree with you

[@NoSuchStrings]

as long as it doesnt become "gangster centipede"

[@silchasruin4487]

@NoSuchStrings oh gosh, I forgot about that. At least there's some character development

[@myroflcoptergosoisoi]

Honestly, anytime BTP gets involved, it ruins the project.

[@Chaliwad]

I like this new idea where each developer has a set goal in mind instead of just making whatever they think is best. As in the past some developers just scrap the entire game and change it but with this the game is able to actually evolve into something.

[@michaelshehata7845]

you should always do roles, it’s unplanned enough to still be interesting but would make each project just so much more coherent

[@michaelshehata7845]

plus i feel like im getting a much more in depth and clear look at what the process of game development looks like, good video

[@ThatHolyGamer]

I liked it but we definitely needed another programmer, only 1 programmer made the game less polished and put a lot of work on 1 person.

[@Will_Forge]

And what if each episode you roll a die to find out the order of the roles of the next challenge in this kind of role-up series of the dev challenge? I'd love to see this is a side series with the main series still maintaining the wild almost ad-hoc style of previous episodes. But this feels like its own sub-series. Kind of like Make Some Noise branching off of Game Changer on Dropout TV, you know?

[@Vullanoid]

I think they could do this sometimes, but not all the time.

[@apiranha1]

I didn’t like this format. A large majority of the fun is seeing how the game twists and turns, this stripped all the magic out

[@TheTankyCrowbar]

Honestly this is really fun. The designers get to focus in on one aspect and go ham. It helped with not having devs backtrack on others work since everyone has a role. Also where can I get that soundtrack? It hits hard

[@LighthoofDryden]

Ay thank you so much! I’m gonna put it up on my channel soon 😃

[@TheTankyCrowbar]

@LighthoofDryden Looking forward to it! Love your Devlogs!

[@curious8692]

Dual is a gem of this industry protect him at all cost

[@Giraff3.]

With all of the restrictions, you guys COOKED with this one. Obviously needs some polishing, but the final result is super impressive! A few changes that'd be good would be, like, changing the name back to Ghosting Hour, reimplementing the Red/Blue color scheme, adding a basic tutorial of some variety, and just generally balancing the cards and possession mechanic, but this turned out fantastic.

[@coleedgerly5666]

I love that a bunch of the change people want are just "reverse btp weird decision to change stuff"

[@deadbymeme2311]

@@coleedgerly5666not a weird decision, he just had a slightly different vision. This is just a short game not even buyable so why is everyone so upset when you can just call the game however you like.

[@datablob]

Oooh starting with the music, dig that & great work Lighthoof Dryden! Now on to watch the rest :)

[@LighthoofDryden]

Datablob!! Thanks my guy!!

[@KoenVisser-yn3yx]

​@@LighthoofDryden those songs are 🔥🔥

[@aviewerman]

bro why do you have to force yourself upon your guests? I understand it's your channel and you wanted to impose your art style as per usual but this game HAS so much potential and i really hope you lend the stick to Lighthoof and/or DualWielded because it's a great idea. I agree with the comments about the colors having to be kept: as an artistic director you completely missed the point between blue and the supposed working title "ghosting hour", and i really hope they do something with it

[@vl5164]

I think rather than focusing on the game as a finished product and each individual step as set in stone, its better to see these videos as "what if" scenarios. Which I think is a bit easier in this format, bc every one's contribution cant be overdone since they each contribute something core to the game, rather than the wildwest no structure format

[@SoapyBlubbles]

I agree. They should just find a different dev instead of interfering.

[@thesleepershark4265]

Doing music first is such interesting idea and then the others, this definitely needs to be done again.

[@DaveTheRave69]

The music was absolutely amazing!! I used to be a DJ/Producer and I feel like not enough people appreciate the music enough. If the game comes to steam I hope the OST will also be available, it is too good to not add!!!

[@tazepatates4805]

I didn't expect for the music to come with a free game on the side, nice.

[@Wandervenn]

Coming at this audio first is so interesting! I love how it's setting the tone, so to speak, for how the game is designed. Edit: The Ghosting Hour was such a sick name. Tpp bad it didnt make it to the end. I would absolutely play this if it was finished.

[@EthanoCreates]

This role based development approach is so cool! Everyone seemed to pick up the vibe really nicely, great work everyone!

[@thehobbesian]

"gangster table" jfc what a horrible name change

[@Oblivion_dev]

bro really talented in music lol

[@kucielgod]

Why noone is talking about that BANGER music...

[@lVideoWatcherl]

While I disagree with the name change, the artistic Interpretation of the characters is cool. It turned out looking really good, and the idea is very cool!

[@Zechasaur_]

DualWielded is way too funny bro 😂😭😭

[@bongochongo8467]

While I do like the organization in this one, I do appreciate the randomness with everyone doing a lil bit of everything because it lets the game be built more naturally in my eyes but overall great video please keep making these!

[@ThatHolyGamer]

I agree

[@Kev5501]

gotta release song at 1:15 on spotify 🙏

[@deanwright8256]

I went to the devs channel just to see if he had it there and sadly not. :(

[@ICNHH]

​@@deanwright8256its there now

[@pyxidus_]

This might be my favorite pass the game challenge concept yet. Love the individualized roles and the backward nature of putting music and sound design first

[@shoya2413]

4:41 this really sounded like a villager from minecraft , the toad voice killed me😂

[@LookinPatchy]

Dryden needs to release the music from this somewhere. I heard 20 seconds of Ghosting Hour and i need it.

[@Comrade_Alpaca]

I actually love the idea of having them all have an assigned role. I'd love to see a few more in this style. Of course, keep the normal formula as well, but I'd love to see more of them with this style mixed in there. P.S. I need Dryden to release those songs on a music service like KZbin Music lol.

[@theOGazure]

Lighthoof was in his bag on this project 🔥😮‍💨

[@reyy9220]

how is dryden good at literally everything omg

[@bilyyj]

Last stage had such a potential and it all went down the drain

[@tableprinterdoor]

Anyone always scared whenever BTP comes into these? Like after the centipede and the name change it’s always like “oh no”

[@DevoutOG]

that chicks vocals at the beginning was insane.

[@eliasricau8631]

Honestly the name change aside, the art was CRAZY GOOD, great job on the reverse game making !

[@itnaxpro3994]

3:10 you cant have a mafia game without the sweet sounds of Generic.

[@BobThef]

0:30 yes this guy is insanely good actual top G of music he is amazing. if you know you know

[@AidenBon-gf8my]

The name of the game shouldn't have been changed Ghosting hour sounds WAY better than gangster table Edit: the music for this is AMAZING and should be put on Spotify

[@vl5164]

I love idea of everyone having a different role, great video! Id absolutely be down for more vids like this! Starting with the music was fun, it would be cool to see other random start points, like starting from UI or starting from a cut scene. Another suggestion is having two ppl do code and/or a debug role

[@robertbloom4424]

You need to do this challenge again, but with a 6th dev whose role is polish & testing. An "add what's missing" person.

[@jennycatmystique7139]

Foley work never gets enough focus, which is so sad because it is SO important for games and movies alike. So this one was SUCH a treat! Would love to see more challenges like this

[@GingerNingerish]

Dryden can sing, too?!?! Can this guy stop being so multi talented for 5 minutes. Incredible music.

[@rage_2000]

Are any of the devs gonna keep working on Ghosting Hour? Honestly it looks amazing

[@ghostamity5116]

this game genuinely could have been a hit. idk why they always fizzle out at the end :/

[@ntPingu]

I love how Dryden just has some absolute BANGERS lying around. Like who doesn't right?

[@AlessandroCecconi]

Fs in chat for the Ghosting Hour title cause I loved that idea

[@SenatorDodo09]

I feel having y'all on the art is a bit of a miss because you have such a specific art style

[@chocolatepiegames3617]

Idk why but the music gave me chills. Props to that guy lol

[@1000percentreal]

DualWielded never fails to impress! A bit disappointed that the name and aesthetics changed though.

[@harrytraskos5964]

This is so much better value then making game without communication.

[@zarunohn]

This was an amazing video! Everyone's parts made me smile because you're all so uniquely talented and creative.

[@KrazyKain]

Very impressive how essentially the devs did communicate, through their craft. Music guy set up a vibe, and the sound guy picked up on that vibe, had some assumptions about what is next, made the appropriate sound effects and the next guy picked up exactly what he was going for. I've seen dev teams in the same office with less synergistic collaboration.

[@colbycoles6983]

The more of these videos I watch where Blackthorn actually participates, the more I realize that they're just not very versatile. They only know how to do one art style, one type of game, etc.

[@donna2016..]

Great video! So cool to see the creators in the process.

[@yomkooltv9105]

I'm gonna say it... BTP needed to pull through a little more here

[@larperdoodle]

The foley art section was basically ASMR. So satisfying

[@skincrafter9259]

Incredible guy Lighthoof Dryden

[@_mediogre_]

The idea for this game is genuinely so cool and interesting. I would absolutely love to see some refining on it. Maybe even a second round of devs.

[@red-2895]

BTP seriously at this point get a different dev to replace you in these.

[@NoobPlayMC]

Game design Idea was absolut genius

[@Diabolo_Dragon]

I am BEGGING please release the songs on spotify

[@yevamusic]

They’re out today! Under Dryden Thomas Games

[@SubzeroBlack68]

I have an idea that could solve a lot of the confusion: How about you only play from the players side. But every card has 2 sides visible (Similar to a domino). One side is your action, while the opposite side is the enemy action. So, you pick a card that says reload but the enemy will shoot you for 2 damage. Or another card that is reload but the enemy will draw 2 cards. From here you can either have cards with randomizing both your side and the enemy's action. So the domino sided like cards are interchangeable every time they are drawn. Or the double sided cards are permanent designed and you just build your deck and take the negative sides that the enemy will do. Another option would be like. A card that says lose a card from your hand but ignore the action of the enemy next turn. That way you can discard a card you dont like either side, as well as your next card you use will be your best but also ignore the extremely painful action the enemy was going to do from that card.

[@PixelDunker]

I love the way you dressed yourself to look like a mafia boss, really turning yourself into the theme of the video, you should do that more.

[@doomfististhegoat]

Bro his headset bump is crazy 11:39

[@8bitbunnie936]

The music goes so hard!

[@yarensenalp5341]

This concept is sick! It should be a full game

[@reco7234]

The name chqnge was definetly a mistake

[@Guapter]

i'm glad BTP make this collabs, and i'm sorry to tell this, but BTP is often ruining many things. For example we already know how their art style looks, and i personaly don't like it, it every time the same, ugly and gooey. So i think they shouldn't put it too often to almost complete projects, or at least make something different at once! Also it is no chance that they had not that game design doc which Dual Wielded made, but still changed nice name which fits perfectly in to the game idea and music(Ghosting hour) to stupid idealess "Gangster table"

[@devilproductions-official]

Gotta Love this GameDev Series Man! Keep up the good work

[@stevoyd]

I like this video style... I think this should be how you move forward with your videos in future where each dev has a provided role so that they don't undo the work of other devs.

[@SAKronikle]

The music is phenomenal! Lighthoof Dryden absolutely killed it!

[@regismdantasx]

Spectacular what you guys did here!! I loved the approach.

[@xmz7999]

i just want to say Dryden is super talented i was amazed by his music capabilities and overall game design in the horror themed game too

[@ThaFritz]

This is one id love to see ran through 5 more devs, it could be so cool as a deckbuilder.

[@HellDivingChicken]

Love yall. Keep it up

[@Kazminski888]

Lighthoof Dryden fokin MVP

[@BurntWafflez85]

Imma just add my quipit over here cause otherwise I'm gunna forget. With the idea of building a deck for your enemy. What if you make a combination of decks, however your RANDOMLY get one of the decks for each side, meaning you can't just make one horrible for the villain because YOU might get that terrible deck, and seal your own death. Jus' some food for thought. Loved the video. Have a good day :D

[@jgfence123]

I really really like the format. Hope to see more!

[@chapteronefrog]

Yeah the glowing eyes don't really work, I'd have also stuck with the Red/Blue cause the yellow is too warm

[@squidstreet]

Solid video guys love the music and atmosphere. The art was amazing too

[@Jaddas]

Dryden the Goat. How does he always do such an insanely good job in these challanges?

[@AlexPhaGo-dn6xd]

Damn Dryden, how is he always cooking?

[@LighthoofDryden]

Aw shucks, thank you ☺️

[@cason5791]

I did not expect Dryden to be that good at composing!!! That was insane

[@sunluffy9390]

bro was definitely making villager noises 4:31

[@Cole_Is_A_Mole]

7:03 That was the funniest shit I've ever seen

[@tnt3t]

Petition for Master Dryden to release Smoking mirror and ghosting hour to the masses🙋🏽‍♂️

[@Will_Forge]

Anyway, another banger video, and this time I have no notes on the game design. Love it.

[@SicoSiber]

I like when blackthorn prod shakes up the order like this, very nice

[@montyqstew]

Wow. This is actually a really great way to be creative. Start with the music and formulate the game around that. I like the way that sounds.