Blade VS Cavity Irons

[@clubchampionmedia]

As always, we really appreciate everyone taking the time to watch and join in on the discussion on the channel! Just wanted to leave a quick note regarding some of the feedback suggesting we do this test with a high handicap player. The reason we did not go that route is that we wanted to provide data that compares things like ball speed, launch angles, spin rates, forgiveness, etc. between the two club head designs. In order to do that most accurately, we felt that a consistent golf swing was best for the job. Introducing the high variability in swings that a high handicap player would produce (in our opinion) would greatly reduce the objectivity of the data provided and really just turn the test into a record of one player's experience with blades versus cavity back irons. In a perfect world, we'd be doing this sort of test with an actual swing robot to eliminate all variables introduced by an individual's golf swing. We hope you enjoyed the test, and stay tuned for future videos where we plan to dive into this topic even further!

[@josephharrington4393]

I completely agree with you on this... Can't test irons from the toe or a duff.

[@hoopsfever82]

Well Matt, you seemed about as close to a robot in this session as a human can be 😜. Nicely done.

[@Master...deBater]

I play Wilson FG-59 baby tour blades...because I love how they look and feel...and for the very fact that they punish me for my mistakes. I don't think one can improve one's ball striking through the use of GI clubs. I also have a set of Cleveland Tour Action 3...small head, cavity back irons.... non offset. The two sets compliment each other very well...with similar head shape, size, loft and lie. I usually start the season with the Clevelands...then when my swing comes around...move to the Wilsons. I also find that playing blades keeps me from overswinging...leading to purer strikes and much greater consistency...without loss of distance. Just last week I hit my Wilson 9 iron 140yds to a back of the green pin position...then of course missed my birdie putt. Anyway...thanks for the video.

[@PrtPrtPrtGood]

I think the problem when comparing these two club designs, is Matt! He's just too damn consistent. Aren't you really attempting to compare forgiveness with this test? If so you need to compare similar off centre hits rather than perfect sweet spot contact. 10mm off centre on both clubs to see how much the game improvement club will bring the result back for less than perfect hits. Matt's just too good for this test to be meaningful imo.

[@hannibalwrecktor5506]

@@PrtPrtPrtGood Exactly what I was thinking. Its great that Matt was consistent. But to really dive into the worthiness of application for comparison purposes. Consistent 'off center' shots would seem to be a big piece missing from this experiment. I love this channel though, these guys come up with great ideas to test and then just do it.

[@maxcaysey2844]

Im definatly sticking with my blades! I would love to see like blades from 2000 against blades from 2020... it would be great to see if there is a difference there!

[@ahoyahoybooth32]

why on earth would anybody give theese guys a thumbs down? Best material on KZbin.

[@clubchampionmedia]

Can't please everyone!

[@Keensensepersonaltraining]

Must be the myspygolf guys that are trying to be the txg tour experience golf guys

[@KyleRattay]

I did!!! Hahah

[@Kaddywompous]

I was disappointed. Expected a make up tutorial 👎🏾

[@brantchmiel3136]

Blades get a bad wrap. More mass for lag, turf interaction, follow through and smoother transition. Well struck goes the exact distance. Poor struck hurts but unless over a hazard doesn't kill you. I also feel you learn faster because you can feel the misses more accurately. That said I'm not trying to win tournaments

[@kourt2469]

Brant Chmiel what do you mean by more mass for lag? The head weight of a blade 8 is around 274 grams, the head weight for a cavity 8 iron is also 274 grams. They don’t weigh any more than the other.

[@daniellandry4908]

I went from a players iron to a game improvement iron and I honestly feel like it hurt my game. I feel like my swing has gotten sloppy from not having to strike the ball as well. seriously considering going back to a players iron and let my handicap suffer for a little bit until my swing gets more consistent

[@thegolfingmusician6345]

Excellent description!

[@anthonytodd5308]

All I can say, "Thank you for sharing your knowledge in this format!" Best in the business!

[@clubchampionmedia]

Thank you for watching Anthony. We love doing video's which help you guys understand the nuances of club fitting and equipment selection.

[@kresge14]

This is the best golf channel on KZbin in my opinion. You guys make things easy to understand. Need to head to Canada to get an iron fitting done. I’ve never been through a fitting where the fitter paid attention to the details like you do. Fun to watch. Thanks guys. Keep up the excellent work!

[@clubchampionmedia]

Thanks Jeremy!

[@TLRChad]

Just found your channel very recently. I love how the two of your break the data down. Best golf channel I've watched thus far.

[@mohdsharefabdulrahman6089]

Thank you for continuing to educate me. I'm 61, mid-handicapper and using the MP69. Loving it though not relishing the punishments from the mishits. I chose it for three reasons; it forces me to focus, it's more flexible for loft & lie adjustments and lastly I have no interest in big club faces with offsets. And of course the icing on the cake is when you hit the sweet spot, the feeling is indescribable. Keep up the good work guys...

[@clubchampionmedia]

👍

[@jamescatsburg4528]

The MP-18 example who needed a thinner sole was THIS GUY! Thanks again, Ian. Can't wait to pick them up. Keep up the good work, guys.

[@clubchampionmedia]

👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@CraigalFun]

How u hitting them? Wats ur handicap?

[@brettsteven3244]

Next level content guys. Pleased to see the blades perform so well as that has been my experience. Just don’t get the left and right dispersion I get with more offset cavity backs. Those misses get you in so much more trouble than the slightly mishit blade that comes up half a club to club short. Looking forward to the next video on hybrid v 5 wood. Your channel is compulsive viewing for anyone interested in clubs and improving ones game. Thanks again.

[@clubchampionmedia]

Thanks Brett!

[@MegaStreet11]

Something that gets overlooked with MBs is that on mishits, they come up short which for me is actually a good thing. I would rather be straight and still short then go the same distance and be 15 yards to the left or the right that gets into real trouble.

[@miguelgonzo34]

really rare having a left-handed tester on videos, but I like it because I'm left-handed thanks guys just got a new sub from me!

[@davidahdoot6769]

Great video! Once again it shows that more people should be playing blades. The marketing has made people afraid of blades, when in fact they are more rewarding to hit and look better. Also, if a flaw creeps into your swing, the blade will show it faster, allowing the player to correct it faster before the flaw is grooved into their swing. Again, great show!

[@tometsler1600]

By far the best, most unbiased golf channel on youtube or anywhere else. Great comparison.

[@gordygolfc2039]

Changed this year from an apex pro 16 to a miz mp18 mb, lost nothing but gained a smile whilst looking down. Great video

[@pmac8658]

Greatings from your fellow celts in Ireland. You two are really sound yet professional.

[@jasongiff4488]

Guys, just another amazing video. I believe you are quickly redefining golf content on KZbin. Awesome stuff!!

[@clubchampionmedia]

Thanks Jason!!

[@melwaller2558]

Guys best comparison between blades and cavity backs I’ve seen. I just started playing again after 7 yrs off and find that I have lost distance with my Mizuno SC type clubs. I am also 63 now. I need a good compromise to get some distance back.

[@keithfinley2939]

These are the best videos on KZbin. Amazing stuff

[@jono5671]

Great job guys! Removed all variables. Good choice using Matt. Using Matt removed doubt and another variable.

[@ryanwinters8382]

Great video as usual! This video hits on something I have never seen or heard discussed in club fittings, sole -turf interaction and its effect on strike and ball velocities. It makes so such much sense! Through the years and fittings I have seen and had , this has NEVER been spoken of. Cant wait for my fitting next month. KEEP up the great videos!

[@clubchampionmedia]

Appreciate that Ryan!!

[@greatpar]

Great video as usual. Mr Maura said his 1957 small blades were easiest to hit. I now know what. No rotation and very little turf interaction. Cheers

[@bryanvandiver7420]

First time watching the channel and just want to say great job! Very informative and really liked how y'all tried to make the sure the test was accurate and showing what you were looking for.

[@clubchampionmedia]

Welcome to the channel Bryan!

[@RodC14]

Thanks guys. Another interesting and informative vid. I'm a 12 handicap player with 90mph driver. I recently went to a Srixon fitting. I was losing 10-12 yards with a 6 iron using z965 compared to Z765. Love the look and feel of these irons. Ended up ordering a combo set of z565 (5-7) and Z765 (8-pw) with Nippon 850 GH. Can't wait to get them in my bag.

[@clubchampionmedia]

Sounds like a very nice set of irons!!

[@timstickney1401]

Really great video about the importance of getting properly fit. You never know what you play best with until you try it at a fitter. I went into my last fitting thinking I would be getting game improvement irons, came out with a more blade-like iron because I hit them more consistently. Thank you for the great information.

[@davidreid2301]

I've just been back playing golf for 9 months after a 33 year hiatus. I've been through 3 sets of irons this year and come full circle today. I've gone back to what I knew as a boy in the '80s, a traditional club that I've only found out this year is referred to as a"blade"! It's a golf club that we all used until the Ping Eye 2 came out, nothing fancy, nothing special, or scary. I've bought a set of Miura MB 101s, and they're awesome! In fact, to those who think "blades" are scary, I'd argue the opposite: I'd rather that the ball looked bigger, because that's what you're trying to hit! Think about it! Also: I don't want to be rewarded for my mistakes, I want feedback to make me know what I've done wrong, and then I can make progress to be a better ball striker. You're not going to get that from so-called game improvement irons! It's time to take the stabilisers off! I feel like I'm six years old again and coming of age! Woo Hoo! The last time I felt like this was on a Raleigh Boxer!

[@rcp2bTube]

GREAT VIDEO! I find my ability to hit the middle of a golf club is directly correlated to how small the head size is - i.e. the smaller the head, the more centered my hits are. I play small headed irons now, even though I'm a mid-tens handicap. I'd love to play PING G irons but I end up spraying the ball all over and loosing my confidence. #golfindustrymarketingcrap

[@charlesmelaisis4872]

Great vlog once again lads Becoming the best golf channel on you tube

[@notbyalex]

Great video! This is a really important topic that desperately needed to be explored in depth. Looking at the standard deviations, the Miuras are very consistent in almost all variables

[@MattPisching]

Completely agree that blades are more playable than some expect. I went in for a fitting a few years ago intending/trying to get something "more forgiving & consistent." Tried a bunch of players cavities and walked out with TaylorMade MBs. For my misses, the setup just worked, and solid shots are unbelievably similar.

[@yungkory7275]

I'm not as talented as Matt, but I love my JPX 900 Tours because of the consistency in distances. I know my misses will be about a club short, but knowing that I won't hit random missiles and overshoot greens is worth it.

[@clubchampionmedia]

That is definitely a huge benefit to blades or muscle/small cavity back irons!

[@dgoldy101]

Very interesting viewing. I love they way you are able to analyze so many factors to hone into the very best results. Great stuff! Dan from Australia

[@tdelam]

This is some great information in here regarding offset. I really need to drive down to Toronto for a fitting when COVID is done, my appointment was cancelled on me because of the cases are up. I suffer from pulls and pull hooks as my miss. I noticed when I changed to Miura CB 801 from Ping ie irons that I have much less of a draw and hooks. There is very minimal offset in the Miura's in comparison and I had a hunch that my fewer hooks/pulls were related to the lack of offset in them! I had some MP-20 SEL's before as well and those too hooked much less! AWESOME info!

[@RobMcGarr]

Great video. Not sure what it's made me want more - a set of blades, Matt's swing, or a fitting from you guys!

[@bebo7002]

Im really enjoying these long detailed videos. Subscribed

[@clubchampionmedia]

Welcome to the channel!

[@ScratchArkkitehti]

My own anecdote: Tested Titleist MBs vs CBs....7 irons dg x100s.....good hits mb and cb: 172yards....miss hit mb: 160 cb: 166....Most important takewaway is the turf interaction convo. @ 19:38

[@clubchampionmedia]

Interesting! Thanks for sharing your experiences

[@danielhill9231]

I've never fell in love with a club like I did with the Srixon Z545. I haven't hit the Z565 but I imagine it's nearly perfect.

[@rhysowen9566]

I bought a beat up set of 710 MB's for $150 to practice with and ended up putting them in my bag. I found I mishit them a lot less than I did my AP2's, which I could only put down to the visuals of the MB being noticeably smaller so I subconsciously put a smoother swing on it because I knew my margin for error was smaller rather than overhitting my AP2's. I feel a lot of people are scared of hitting blades but there is no better club to hit when you're wanting to improve ball striking because the feedback from strike is instant.

[@SuperYoda7]

I used to buy a set of Titleist 710 Mbs back in the day when I played of 20 just because I loved the look of them. I lowered my handicap to 8 in about a year and a half. But literally everyone recommended me a set of 712 ap2 so I bought and played them for about a year. Didn't see a massive difference in forgiveness. When you miss you are going to miss anyway. The turf interaction was very different too. Eventually I changed back to the blades and lowered my handicap to 1 within the next 4 years. I just prefer the look and turf interaction of a blade it also feels more consistent. This year I bought a new set of 718 mbs but a progressive set with the 4 and 5 as CBs. The best set of irons ever!

[@clubchampionmedia]

👍👍👍

[@adolfozayas3359]

Another solid video. Great detail. Love how consistent Matt is

[@2Bad.]

I was surprised to see how little difference there was between the two club designs with Matt's abilities. Perhaps the two club designs are slowly moving to the middle? A very informative video guys.

[@cliffmacdonald9339]

Great video. I've never considered offset with pulling shots! I played blades for a few years and loved them, since then I've gone to a cavity iron and my tendency is to pull shots.

[@jukkakymalainen]

FINALLY somebody do this right way 👍 Same loft, shaft and player and honest test. There is difference that can make difference, but it's not big. I have played cavity irons and then blades. Blades feels great but i was miss hitting them too much and that make me worry contact too much. Now i have blade wedges and cavity back irons. Future i will try short blade irons if i need distance control.

[@p1miguel999]

Good morning txg from Dallas Texas . I played the z965 when they first came out now play the ap2s both in X100 shaft. I always wondered why the srixon felt better I believe you hit the nail on the head. Turf interaction

[@michaelg6658]

Dallas Texas here too! Love these guys. I just got some new Iblades and can’t believe how easy they are to hit. I think for a strong player that thinner sole is key for turf interaction.

[@anthonymckenzie7951]

Great video guys. This is the most controlled blade v. cavity test that I've seen in the KZbin universe. Also appreciated how you tied in the club design education to explain the output variances between them. One question - for cast irons, how much can the lie angle change over time since they have more limited adjustability? My golf IQ increases everytime I watch you guys. Thanks!!

[@chynz330]

Anthony McKenzie I'm not a fitter but I watch a lot of fittings and understand that cast clubs rarely, if ever, change in lie, particularly loft, because they are so rigid. You literally need a torch to bend them. Now that changes if you're constantly smacking clubs into trees or hitting rocks, but I know forged clubs need to be checked at least once a season because even for me, who barely plays, my lies and loft changed a degree with Mizunos Mp-53's with the 6,8,& Pw, clubs I use more. And I'm not even a hard hitter. They're just so soft!

[@anthonymckenzie7951]

Thanks chynz330, that makes sense!

[@clubchampionmedia]

Definitely makes sense to have your clubs checked annually for loft/lie, especially if you practice off mats.

[@ermangus]

Perfect timing for this video. Recently purchased AP1 coming from Apex CF16. I really like the irons but I can not get control of the left shot and couldn't figure out why. The offset conversation pretty much described my issue. It has really made me look at the i200 all over again to get rid of the offset.

[@TW-fx2jx]

my fave golf channel now.. thanks guys, appreciate your hard work

[@benpascoe6225]

Great video as always and great information about turf interaction from the different clubs, it’s given me good information for my next set of clubs keep up the good work

[@dannypratt.]

absolutely love this kind of thing, learning more and more every day.

[@barrymills8597]

Well done guys this is a video I’ve been waiting for and as always done brilliantly. Super impressed again.

[@clubchampionmedia]

We appreciate that Barry! Thanks for watching

[@clemfisher5727]

Great video as usual. Was very surprised as I have seen other channels where the cavity backed irons had consistently higher smash factor - I assumed that the rules allowed some trampoline effect in the max COR which was being exploited by the cavity backed clubs. Obviously I was wrong. BTW, would love to see fitting of single length irons

[@valplays7871]

This is my conclusion as well! Changing to a blade in the near future.

[@nugget888]

Every time I watch this channel I want to go buy new clubs. Why are you doing this to me?

[@ScratchArkkitehti]

Close the lid on your laptop. Go spend 4000. Right now. lol

[@clubchampionmedia]

Just part of our service Jason 😆😆😆😆😆

[@whitter86]

WHY WHY WHY

[@abyssalreclass]

They are doing it so that you will go to their shop and buy new clubs.

[@masondevero]

@@ScratchArkkitehti just buy one Miura blade on EBay and hit it 10 times. All your questions and fears will be answered

[@stephenadams6959]

Another very interesting review. Really gives you lots to think about in terms of the stronger club lofts coming out these days.

[@richardbell304]

Absolutely great channel, so informative I can spend hours just watching the content.

[@neilstableford3831]

Have a variety of irons from MX200 through to MP68 and points in between!! 😂 love it when I'm playing at my best and the pure,most consistent irons,can go in the bag. Great work as always Guys!!!

[@NipkowDisk]

Nothing beats the sound of that solid CLICK with blade irons when you hit 'em right. Worth it for me in spite of my handicap being in scientific notation :) never mind that I haven't golfed in many years now...

[@golfpunk46]

Great video! Really enjoyed this. Love your channel.

[@donniequinnjr7040]

I love the channel! It is so informative and I watch all of your material. I’m considering going into club fitting as a profession. Keep up the good work!!

[@stephendibari7704]

Great video Ian. And you’re spot on about the “pre-worn” beveled leading edge. My Mizuno JPX 900 Forged irons have that too and love the turf interaction I get with them. Helps ease through the turf with less friction.

[@clubchampionmedia]

Thank you Stephen. Matt and I appreciate your continued support!!

[@paulkelly5883]

Just about to go out and play at Formby GC This evenings essential viewing sorted 👍👍👍

[@josephharrington4393]

Great video- I would however have liked to see this video done with the same brand to keep the metal and craftmanship similar. I am, however, a lefty as well and realize that few club brands make their whole line up in lefty.

[@sorenedvardsson6180]

I switched from AP2 to MP5 for 2 years ago and have never stroked the ball this good. Now I feel that I'm in control of the club and get clear feedback when I miss hit the ball which have improved my swing. That I have never felt earlier.

[@Your_Mailman_Grows_7121]

As always awesome vid guys. Looking forward to the next one.

[@MartinMacGill]

Cool comparison! Obviously the test doesn't take into account play over a period of time and playing conditions. I don't play too often these days and play on Scottish links courses. Although I see the benefit for me to move to something more forgiving than my blades, I'm not sure how workable they would be. It would have been a good thing to see Matt trying to hit a variety of shots, from knock down half shots to high/low draws/fades to see how the two compare. I appreciate this wasn't the purpose of todays test, but perhaps you could do this as a follow up?

[@clubchampionmedia]

Absolutely Martin! Just judging by how many comments we've received already today, we can tell this is a hot topic. We intend to do a bit of a series on this one!

[@chrisrichardson5309]

i was wondering about this exact thing and wondered if a blade would work for me ( probably not due to my inconsistent strike ) but i would love to try lol. great content as usual

[@muffin0079]

Loving your content guys. Just wish I could come to Canada and get fit 😢

[@usslakeeriecg7043]

Ian show us how you fix the gapping problem with one length. Many reviewers seem to write them off, but you prove every time that shaft,loft and lie can be manipulated to a players advantage. I want to try them, but haven't seen what a real fitter can do with them....bring in your average golfer....keep up the good work.

[@jbsg01]

Interesting to see how much straighter the ball flight became when he switched to the blades with less offset. What are the best irons on the market that have some forgiveness to them but little to no offset?

[@clubchampionmedia]

A good question! The Miura Cavity backs have very little offset, also the Srixon Z765, Mizuno MP-18 MMC to name a few.

[@nicholaslyons8977]

Another great video guys. Those blades look amazing.

[@dmp327]

Good comparison. Interesting that a lot of folks with mix their set - cavity long irons, blade short irons - and think they are getting a benefit. Could be mental based on what they see at address?

[@chrismoore1387]

Love this video! As someone who grew up using 690MB to learn the game but just got into a set of P770, I can appreciate the results of this video. I don’t think there is much of a difference outside of look at address and turf interaction. It all comes down to preference, I actually prefer a blade but went with the slight cavity of the P770 for a few reasons, A)couldn’t quite get comfortable with look of 718MB of Mizuno blades at address, B) P730 doesn’t come in LH unfortunately but would have love to test those due to the shape at address. But love the look of P770 down at the ball, nearly no offset and pretty compact head, kinda best of both worlds. And as someone who only gets out once a week really anymore, that extra bit of help never hurts, although I think its 90% mental at that point.

[@johnyi1994]

I’ve been a Nike blade player for about 15 years and I’m reluctant to give them up because I simply love the feedback and buttery feel when hitting the sweet spot. Even when I know I can get more “help” from the modern iron blade. Do you recommend any other modern blade that would be a good “modern” transition for me to try? Thanks for doing this!

[@valplays7871]

john yi I think you should try the Titleist MB, apex MB, TaylorMade p730, srixon 935, Miura - yeah all of those feel buttery! Haha

[@1b0o0]

#nothingfeelslikeamizuno

[@adamprovaznik1588]

You gotta try the mizuno blades best feel

[@clubchampionmedia]

All the above are great modern blade irons. The Srixon Z965 would be a top recommendation to try, for a muscle back club it incorporates a lot of technology.

[@Joe-uh5dl]

Love the video so what kind of player benefits from a thinner sole someone who is a picker of the golf ball? Someone with a steep angle of attack? Great video guys keep them coming.

[@scotty_teee4226]

This video made me feel better about the decision of heading to blades in my next set of irons. I've tried a couple of sets now and i like the way they look, feel and perform compared to my current p770's. And they're not a bad set either. I was fit to the mizuno mp18 with px lz 6.5 and I've also hit the apex mb with nippon modus 120x. Both felt great and performed well for me. I honestly thought this video may have ended up with reasons why not to go into bladed irons but it just backed up the fact that it wouldn't be an issue. Great video as always guys 👍👍

[@clubchampionmedia]

Awesome Scott!

[@tommyle2612]

Great video, you guys are like golf scientist

[@JamesYangGolf]

Thanks for doing this video, I left a comment asking for this exact topic.

[@clubchampionmedia]

We're listening James!!! Appreciate your support!!

[@philip4941]

Great video. I have been wanting to try the 565 was worried they might still have a flier in them. Thinking a combo set might work well for me. Want something close in loft to my x22s. Don't need strong loft hot irons. Want that consistency of distance.

[@clubchampionmedia]

Z565's are fantastic Philip! They work very well in a combo set, in fact I just played with someone yesterday that had a combo set of 565, 765 or 965 from 4-PW

[@松田もしくろす]

As a beginner it is hard to sort these things out. Testing for me may be worthless because I have not yet developed a swing. So for a starter set I found a used set of Miura CB501 which are forged but a cavity back design. The price was great so I went for them. They included KBS Tour C-taper lite 110 gram shafts. I would have preferred the Miura 1957 “baby” blades, but this would have meant buying them new and paying the big bucks. I use impact tape to interpret what it is I am feeling when I miss hit- which I do often even though I am not yet up to a full swing. My main idea was to learn with a club head which is small so that if I go to any other head it will seem like child’s play. For my wedges I have Ping Glide which are also forged. So my question is: are the Miura CB501’s small enough for now? How much smaller, really, are the baby blades? According to this video I may not need to worry about switching to baby blades at a future time (except for aesthetic reasons) since performance wise I may not be able to appreciate much difference provided these Miura CB’s (after I learn to swing) give me a consistent ability to hit my mark.

[@hi2meb]

Another interesting and informative video. Really appreciate you guys. Like others, I was surprised by the results. Expected the blaids to be less consistent. However, I my own game, I went from a set of Callaway XR OS irons to a set of Mizuno 900 forged irons because of the increased consistency.

[@matthewferreras7181]

Awesome video. I've been wondering about this for a while.

[@ericbernardras]

Nice job guys, very interesting video and results.

[@MrSanders48]

well done, great test

[@scottwarner7728]

I loved this review, because it shows that good ball strikers can play blades. I play Mizuno MP69's & I love them, I have tried cavity weighted clubs & I hated the way they felt. Correct me if I am wrong, it appears most PGA players are playing blades more over the last 10 years, .

[@clubchampionmedia]

Definitely a mix of both on tour, but with the modern technology being integrated into blades it seems like a few more guys are going that route now.

[@ayjie6829]

80percent dont use blades on tour

[@carlwinsor3959]

Really good info gents could you do a muscle back comparison to blade please. say Srixon 765 against Miura .

[@neutrino61]

Hey guys and welcome back. Thanks just for a few swings but a lot of good discussion between both of you two. The take-home-message for me is to think even more of a "combo set": blades for the shorter clubs for feel and awesome consistency, cavaties for the longer clubs with their advantages. What do you think about? But nevertheless: one has gotta be fit by YOU👍🏻

[@clubchampionmedia]

Combo sets are absolutely a great thing to consider!

[@Vardraq]

What I love about Miura is their club's thin toplines.

[@jaredg8497]

I was a Callaway X Hot2 Pro player for the last 3 years, I have now gone to Mizuno MP18 Blade 7-pw and MMC 4,5,6. I am so much more consistent with my distances and left to right dispersion with the blades then with the small cavity backs of the x Hots. Granted I've lost about a club and a half of distance but I knew that would be the case and my iron play has never been better.

[@banditbaker1675]

Great Vid as ever Gents, those two Irons are things of great beauty, (I was beginning to get a bulge in the trouser dept)!!!! At the start of the vid I was anticipating that the story line was going to be that the Miura Blade gave up distance and was less forgiving than the Srixon Cavity back, however what a pleasant surprise you had in store for us! I would give up my left hand to be able to play Miura Blades!!!!........ (I wonder if they make one handed clubs)?????

[@ML-wb5pj]

This is why 10 of the worlds top 13 play blades in 2018 (DJ, JT, JR, RF, RM, HM, PR, SG, TF, PC). Its a shame manufactures can't make reduced offset cavities like they do for the pro's.

[@kourt2469]

M L most companies make atleast one cavity model with minimal offset. Usually designed to pair up with the mb version to make a combo set.

[@michandcat]

New to the channel and Thoroughly enjoying your content. PLEASE do this comparison with your 20 Handicapper. Well done. Mich

[@charlesbussmann9414]

Such a great topic!!! Great video!!!

[@JChenEats]

Great video guys. I think a lot of golfers are deterred from trying players/blade like irons because of of the sigma that those clubs are only for single to low handicap golfers. I think that golfers need to consider what is appealing to the eye as they set up to the ball. If a club doesn't look good to me at address, I usually don't hit it well. Keep you the great content. Always look forward to your videos. Any chance for a WITB on Lydia Ko given she just won recently?

[@clubchampionmedia]

Definitely getting a lot of requests for LPGA players' club info, it is on our to-do list for sure!

[@JohanSchmidt]

Very interesting! Most of the manufacturers unfortunately only offer blades with super stiff shafts which only those with very fast swing speeds can hit. So it's a case of no matter how much you like the shape of the blade head, unless you're prepared to pay extra for differents shafts, there isn't much joy. Ben Hogan are offering blade heads with a large range of shaft option - from heavy Gold Dynamic shafts to light UST graphite shafts.

[@dirtyoffroader2093]

Everyone should try blades at least once.. regardless of handicap. Feed back is better and as mentioned they are so much more predictable. Love my current 965s 👍 Great video again guys.

[@simonjones4943]

hit the srixon z forged at a demo day just to put my mind at rest that i have no business hitting them. Couldnt have been more wrong. I hit them better than the 785 and 585. The feedback is great and I believe the extra weight of the solid forged head helped my control the club more and helped me keep it on plane.

[@gee2626]

Another great video guys!! Keep up the awesome work! I would love to see a similar comparison done with a higher handicap player such as Sam. Perhaps see how he hits the Muiras compared to the irons he was fitted for.

[@clubchampionmedia]

Can save us both the time of making the video and you watching - he would not hit the Miura's as well! 😆😆😆 Sam got about as much improvement out of those Apex's as anyone could hope for. It depends on what a player needs out of their fitting, for Sam part of the story was getting more distance which he wouldn't get with the Miura's traditional lofts and lower (comparable) ball speed. He also needed the fat/heavy shot forgiveness which again would be unlikely to occur with the Miura's. Not to mention Sam's wife would probably murder him if she found out he was trying out more clubs!! 😆

[@gee2626]

Lol!! Same can be said for all our wives 😆😆😆 Thanks for the reply.

[@austinlauer1910]

Great comparison guys! Would these two be almost perfect for a combo set, since they are getting close numbers?

[@clubchampionmedia]

Could be!

[@BenLowery19]

On the diff in dynamic loft, a 2 degree difference is only about an inch of movement at the butt end of a 6 iron. It doesn't take much variance in swings to get there.

[@cliveg8350]

I'm beginning to sound repetitive, but another super informative, made easy to understand video for us "normal, non technical" golfers. The standard keeps increasing with everyone one of your productions, well done. HOWEVER, Ian, are you losing your Scottish identity? In today's video Matt was hitiing a Zee 565 iron but in a previous video he was hitting a Zed Star ball, so where are you going with your pronunciation ? lol lol :) Keep up the GREAT WORK (from a British Expat living in Malaysia)

[@clubchampionmedia]

😆👍

[@WVURFL01]

Nice video. Can you name some irons with little to no offset while still providing forgiveness? I need the help but hate over-hooking. Thanks.

[@clubchampionmedia]

Miura cavity backs, Mizuno MP-18 MMC