High Handicap Iron Fitting

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txg.ca - More awesome results for Sam this time with an iron fitting! We took his iron game to the next level by adjusting lie angle and going to a new high ball speed iron head, leading to more distance, better forgiveness on mishits and better overall consistency.
Filmed at: Tour Experience Golf
Custom Golf Club Fitting Studio - Toronto, Canada
Featuring: Ian Fraser, Master Clubfitter

[@ra1der5]

Great vid, but this was FIVE YEARS AGO! Wish you had more examples of high handicappers getting fit. Maybe I’m not seeing them because it isn’t called out in the title? Anyway, I picked up some good info for my club fitting. I like that you showed how the lie angle on his existing set could be adjusted. I’m sure he’d be excited that you straightened the shape of his shot, but who wouldn’t want an additional 20 yards?!

[@anthonymckenzie7951]

The Sam series has been absolutely phenomenal!! Fitting him thru the entire bag clearly demonstrated the kind of improvement an average golfer could potentially experience with a high quality fitting.It's amazing how small adjustments can deliver big rewards in dispersion, distance and overall confidence. Considering how the fitting process went for him, seems that the ideal fitting sequence should be Driver - Irons - Hybrid/Woods - Wedges, correct? You guys are the absolute best - learning a lot and always looking forward to your next video!

[@InstrumentPlayer]

After playing the same set of irons for 20 years, This video motivated me to get my first ever club fitting and boy do I wish I did it year’s ago! I was hitting my 7 iron an average of 134 yards with it pulling left and struggling to not hit it fat. I learned that my lie was off and that I have a moderate swing speed. Fitter put Wilson D7’s in my hand with lie adjusted and regular flex graphite shafts. This new fit sent the ball on average 160 yards with minimal dispersion! For context, I could NOT hit my old 5 iron as far and good as this 7 iron! Thank you gents for the content and making the fitting process feel less intimidating! I would have never gone in to do this without this type of content!

[@JayDeeBerryman]

Was there ever a revisit on how much Sam's game improved? I'm emotionally invested in Sam! Lol

[@philamthebest]

I think you guys could be and possibly are, the best golf info videos on KZbin. Would love to see more content from you guys. Oh, and induct Sam into your regular videos too. He is doing great!

[@neutrino61]

finally.., have waited sooo long for the next video with Sam! You've made Sam so happy. He will never forget this sessions at TXG for his complete lifetime. Ian, you are doing such a fantastic job. Little changes can affect so much but you gotta know what to change😉. Thanks to TXG, I still got hope for my upcoming fitting...

[@NomadJoe0323]

Ian is probably a descendant of the first Scottish club fitters. What a craftsman.

[@GreatEighp]

Again, these videos are absolutely incredible and informative! I've hemmed and hawed about the actual value, but no more dilly dallying, I'm going to get fit! Thanks for putting this content out!

[@mdnjustin]

Beautiful. I loved how you adjusted his original irons as well. I've been curious about those changes, as opposed to new clubs.

[@MObetterMOVEMENT]

AMAZING video guys! Thanks so much for putting all this top notch content out. As much as I like seeing Matty smash it out there 350+, this series with Sam and other handicap golfers show the value of a true and proper fit. I still can't get over the performance improvement. Best channel on You Tube by far! I've watched a lot of videos from Crossfield, Shiels, Me and My Golf etc. but you guys are the best, hands down!

[@CarolinaGolfer2]

Feel like I"m repeating myself on all the videos. Just incredible work there.

[@greatpar]

You guys are magicians. Sam is stunned. Cheers 👍🏌🏼

[@carljonasaskvigg26]

never before have I been so inspired for a fitting. This is by far the biggest eye opener for me. I follow a lot of the biggest golf tubes. But i just got a new favorit!

[@Generalsplatton]

This was an exceptional video! Showing the changing of his own clubs was brilliant. Please do more of these.

[@KrunkStack]

TXG continues to be my favorite golf info series! Keep it coming guys!

[@franidelaserna]

Fantastic explanation of the fitting process guys. Going for my first iron fitting tomorrow and will take this knowledge with me. If I’m ever in the UK I’ll pass to say hi and get fitted at TXG.

[@adolfozayas3359]

Yet again another solid video. Again shows the importance of getting fit. I'm still mildly old school when the debate of loft comes into play. But even I need to understand that it's better performance that leads to lower scores.

[@jimnaz5267]

excellent video, club fitting and help to Sam. i am a high handicap golfer and thought fitting was only for much better players. Thanks for showing us the light

[@morrischensue124]

Love watching you both....Very informative content...I have been fitted by TXG and it was a great experience...They were very friendly, helpful and knowledgeable...Would recommend getting fitted by them to anybody

[@offshoresavage6608]

I waited all day to watch this video and it didn't disappoint.

[@paulhartley8431]

I have really enjoyed the series of videos with Sam. Thank you for putting them together. I myself am a high handicapper looking for a new set of irons and would love understand more about how you go about choosing the right club head. Currently there so much choice, for example the M4, the Rogue, Mizuno hot metal and the Pings amongst others.

[@clubchampionmedia]

We'll try to keep going through different ones in future videos Paul. Thanks for watching!

[@neilstableford3831]

Fantastic story again Guys. I'm convinced the premium fit option is the game changer as most players actions are way more grooved than we imagine. Fitting to this is preferable to swing changes,which the worlds best struggle to achieve.

[@geoffstaudt4768]

Ian and Matt, another great video. I think it would be interesting to see a mashup of two types of videos you guys have already done in the past, a fitting of an amateur player, whether it be Sam or someone else, but done in the live setting. Also, I went through the ball fitting process last week, and it was great. The feedback from the process helped confirm that I was playing the right ball, and the numbers backed it up. I think it would be an interesting video for the general public.

[@marq022]

I'm a new subscriber but I wanted to say that this is by far, the most informative video I've seen. I've been playing for 4 years and I've been teaching myself. After watching your videos, I feel that I've found remedies to the weaknesses I have in my golf game :)

[@clubchampionmedia]

Thanks Bobby!

[@1847gw]

Another wonderful video. I am looking forward to see Sam's scorecard posted for each round. This give's all of us hope that we can hit the ball straighter, higher and longer. Keep up the great work young men.

[@clubchampionmedia]

Gary Westfall we’re excited to see Sam’s progress this year.

[@mcfly2727]

Love this. Ill say again...open branches in the UK! I'd love to do what you do...clearly be a big learning curve though!👍👍👍

[@joewillis1227]

Excellent video once again. Integrity is everything.

[@roykullick5273]

Once again, you guys are absolutely changing this man's game! I'm checking prices for a ticket to Canada right now!

[@roykullick5273]

I know it is probably a long shot, but is there a clubfitter in The Netherlands that you can recommend?

[@davideubank882]

An update on Sams handicap would be great.

[@dannoble8662]

David, I want to hear that Sam’s wallet is full of cash from his playing partners after spending a bomb on a whole new bag! This has been an incredible series to watch. He needs to monetize his what I expect to be a rapidly declining handicap while he can to help pay for a full bag replacement!

[@valhaynes858]

This video has made me realise how poor my fitting for my Mizuno was and how having bladed wedges has detrimentally effected my wedge play. All I need to do now is move to Canada and get a proper fitting for all my clubs. The other problem now is who to trust in the UK to perform as good and comprehensive fitting as you guys do. Suggestions? PLEASE from a 15 handicap player who hits his 8 iron straight but only 120 yds.

[@acemakerjay]

Very impressive. Best of luck to Sam.

[@qudjy1]

Great video - thanks. I am very glad you mentioned the part about making sure the modern lofts fitting into your bag. For many people (like Sam and myself), 5 or even 6 iron should be the longest iron in their bag if the 6 iron is 26-27 degrees . I actually have 2 "7" irons in my bag now, because i have a mixed set of blades in my p-7, and more game improvement irons in my 7-5. Kinda wacky - but it works well...

[@pipebliss]

Excellent demonstration. Half way through the video I was think ... "why can Ian just adjust the lie angle on his Mizunos?" and then you answered the question! I guess the beauty of a forged iron is you can always adjust it later without have to buy a new set. Great video.

[@johnyi1994]

At around 4:10, Ian, you go over the ballpark range for how long Shawn should be hitting his 6 iron. Could you do a video in the near future regarding what ideal yardages should be relative to swing/ball speeds? Much appreciated!

[@johnyi1994]

*Sam

[@clubchampionmedia]

Lots of variables there John but for Sam with ~82MPH getting 170 yards was great, and you'll see in the video that comes out on Saturday with a faster swing speed player (~92MPH) we look for around 190 yards.

[@tommyboyd6189]

Wish I had got fitted by you guys.....very educated in understanding the clubs....and the individual.

[@tonypenny848]

i brought the apex when i first started golf at a 28 handicap people said to me there no good for you but i love the small look and they feel great this vid is well true i tried the i200 and jpx 2017 but the grouping on the apex and distance was the best for me great iron.

[@simonhobbs9097]

If everyone goes and gets fitted along these lines, there will only be single figure golfers playing the game...brilliant video, as you say exceptional editing !

[@brianyoung3]

Nice video guys. It's great to hear the logic behind helping an average golfer like Sam. I was fit last week in Vancouver thinking that I was going to a progressive fitting and got none of that. I think that my fitting was reasonable but I wish TXG had a shop out here. Keep up the good work boys!

[@TheGlackens]

Can I ask where you got the fitting? I want to get one in Vancouver too but I don’t know where to go. Thanks

[@brianyoung3]

@@TheGlackens Golftec south Surrey

[@mohdsharefabdulrahman6089]

another excellent job guys...I'm beginning to sound like a broken record here. A suggestion - perhaps next time you could mention similar heads and shafts that would yield the same result. Some heads and shafts are not available locally and some of us are very passionate brand loyalists. Ian's encyclopaedic knowledge of these stuffs will surely come handy. Thank you guys.

[@raiyanwahid6694]

That first shot with the new club and im like wooooow..great job guys

[@johnnymac2201]

You guys really need to create a franchise system, train fitters and spread this all over the world.

[@billlyl3725]

Sam=Ringer?? TXG=David Copperfield?? Excellent vid, as always. Thanks guys!

[@speedinon]

LOL!

[@storieswithaly1247]

Really good to see the follow through on irons. I did it the other way around starting with an irons fitting and equally as a result changed sets and shafts (and lie - in my case going 2 flat). I wanted to just add that I had the same experience that once the irons, driver (still ongoing) and hybrids and 5 wood review were done and when I then took to the course on a regular basis i ended up with some redundancy now as a result dropping one iron in favour of a hybrid, dropping 5 wood also in favour of a longer hybrid. So the gapping issue becomes a key stage with or as part of a fitting. Indeed that is part of my current dilemma with the driver and perhaps also the need to revisit the 5 wood. So that they all (very different makes - something else to add as no longer look at one make or even one set of irons but individual clubs (or groups of clubs when it comes to irons like gap-wedges as one group; 7/8 -pw as another; and hybrids or longer irons as another group as the case may be). Look forward to seeing the wedges fitting. And dont forget the putter too as indeed one does more puts a round than even with any other club - i learned and changed my putter inadvertently when using my hybrid as a putter with much better effect consistently than my previous putter! What a self taught lesson. Great clip. Sam should be down to single figures by now - what a wonderful feeling he must have!

[@performanceinsurancegroup1313]

Just outstanding! The only problem now is that if Sam’s married his wife isn’t gonna like him sleeping with the new clubs! Ian, you are the club whisperer. I’m scheduled for next month and can’t wait. Well done gents.

[@mattdonovan4860]

Hopefully Sam gets a discount on all these new clubs. Awesome video. If I’m ever in your area I’d love to stop by and check it out

[@vic8033]

Another incredible fit. I am so excited for my upcoming fit with you. Can't wait.

[@denissonsing8632]

Awsome video. Another impressive club fitting with Sam.

[@robrandall2183]

Sams putter fitting next please, followed by a gapping test and witb please. Great channel , keep up the good work.

[@GenXGolf24]

Sam is a copy of me thank you so much for this video I have mp-54 to and I’m thinking about switching to either the apex or jpx hot medal because I need more distance

[@mattsheehan5033]

Unreal! That’s absolutely incredible!

[@wallstreetoneil]

Awesome as usual guys - well done. After 10+ years off of golf with an elbow injury, I bought myself these Apex irons early last year as I re-hit the range and needed some old man clubs versus my old forged cavity back blades with heavy extra stiff 6.5 Rifle shafts - and I too was shocked by the difference - I'm actually longer now than I was a decade ago pre injury. As a better player than Sam, I actually went with their Recoil Graphite shaft to give me dampening for my elbow injury and have been stunned on how arrow straight the Regular Flex Graphite Recoils are - just amazed at their performance. As an FYI, the longest Apex iron I use is their 5 iron as it is exactly the loft of my old blade 4 iron and that is my 190 ish club - hybrids after that. I have told a few local people about your business so hopefully they will be coming by - I still have to book my appointment. Fantastic stuff. Paul.

[@willismasters]

curious if there is a follow up to Sam's progress since these videos a year and a half ago. Wondering how is handicap has changed since this fitting. Great work guys Love these videos and all of the content

[@kellysmith2303]

Love these. More mid-high hdcp customers, please.

[@KevinBrown-xo7jr]

Wish youse guys were closer to me, I’m currently an 18 and have the same MP-54s. Definitely in the market for some new sticks but don’t wanna get on a ✈️ right now. Anyway, great video.

[@charlesrohl7635]

Another excellent video ! Thanks again guys. Awesome to watch your magic.👍

[@Gedi5469]

Agree however difficult getting a good fitter who is not just trying to sell you clubs! If I had the money I would fly over from Scotland to you 😁

[@garyhovey9305]

That was brilliant! Extremely smart move to adjust Sam’s current irons to match the Modus.......eliminated the “what if” from the session. I’m afraid Ian is just a one of a kind fitter, always problem solving for best results and I’ll likely never find that experience locally (Bay Area, Northern California). However, I’m wondering if you’re planning a fitting tour in the future? Maybe partner with golf galaxy? It’s a crazy idea..... hoping to one day make it to TXG

[@chriswallace6202]

Another great video. Quality work guys.

[@jrodd0077]

Bravo guys! Providing options is also very good here..

[@cwugrad396]

Another A+ video lads. Top Quality Stuff. Very educational

[@francescomorandi6988]

G Happy to see, high handicap, benefit of fitting, love the video.

[@yamahapiano]

It’s been a year. Please link the update video in description. Can’t wait for more Sam

[@dudleycornman1624]

Having just been through a club fitting for irons... I don't doubt these results at all.

[@chuckwaterman7577]

I think it would be great to see a follow-up with where Sam is now (and a summary of how much money he's taken from Matt)?

[@RustyGolfer]

Bump... how do we get this seen by Matt & Ian.

[@chuckwaterman7577]

Avid Golfer they’ve already seen and acknowledged it.

[@Drjeremy6060]

...Not suspicious at all...Nice apples to apples comparison. Thanks. Very cool.

[@eatamango71]

Awesome video. I wish you guys were in northern Cal.

[@richardlovell7316]

Thanks for all your videos, fellas. I do videos for KZbin as well, baseball hitting instruction-Rich Lovell, and you guys are good. My videos are much shorter in length and I typically don't watch videos as long as yours, but they are that interesting I watch almost every second...You have motivated me to get a fitting while I am in Phoenix in June to hopefully improve my already improving game for my September outing with my brothers...returning to Phoenix. Thanks again. I really enjoy learning about club fitting, lie and loft angles, the effect shafts and head combinations have on players game improvement and that is what it is all about. Helping the average golfer enjoy the game more with more consistent golf shots. Cheers from CA.

[@clubchampionmedia]

Thank you for the comment Richard!!

[@richardlovell7316]

My pleasure

[@FRST2012]

Being forged, I would have been interested to see what difference bending his current club up to the same lie angle would have resulted in compared to the Apex, then it would have been Easier to see how more forgiving the Apex was. spin on the Apex seems very low for a 6 iron. Not criticising, just saying 👍

[@stephenadams6959]

Very interesting video guys. Great job!

[@christianouellette70]

Good video again guys. Thumbs up !

[@ral147]

If you build the custom fit around your swing deficiencies, will this mean you'll need to be refit once those deficiencies have been corrected? Trying to see if a fit is worth it if starting with bad mechanics. Cheers.

[@mikecook8059]

Love this video! Any chance of doing a senior player (someone in the 60's)??? Not sure what benefits I would see!

[@clubchampionmedia]

For sure Mike, it's on our list for the future

[@heathermartell8109]

Is it possible to conduct a fitting with Sam (as the constant viewer is now familiar with him) and compare this recent iron fitting to him using blades, at least with the higher lofted clubs? I have always wondered if using blades as a mid-handicapper can get one to improve their centre contact, as the blades are better at providing feed back than cavity back clubs. I understand that with the longer clubs, blades would likely not be a good decision and that hybrids or woods may be more beneficial. Thanks again for another great video.

[@kieranardaen-webb8527]

Same thing happened to me with the apex cf16 with a project x pxi shaft. My only problem is I struggle with the 8 iron!

[@onlyjesussaves9892]

Every golfer needs fitting, unfortunately many of us just can't afford a couple grand on clubs. Your series is making me wonder how many bad habits am I picking up practicing with wrong clubs and sizes. Over forty and can't make body adjust anymore to whatever is put in my hands.

[@stephankleemeyer3236]

When you guys do a “whys in the bag” you provide us so much detail. Can you tell us a little more regarding “loft” on the tour Players irons. You mentioned a 2 degree loft chance. I wouldn’t be shocked at all to learn that tour players “manage” or “customize” their lofts?!?!

[@clubchampionmedia]

They probably do Stephan but that kind of info is a bit harder to get. Hopefully we'll get better access to that kind of information going forward and we can share it with you guys!

[@stephankleemeyer3236]

TXG Tour Experience Golf thanks for the follow up. I’m a big fan of the channel, great content. When I’m ready for a fitting, I’ll fly up from the states and see you guys! Cheers

[@bzeefs3]

How do I choose who to go to to get a proper club fitting like this? Is this process uniform across all fitters? My fear is spending this kind of money but getting someone who half-asses it cuz I'm a higher handicap player.

[@edmc4315]

You have become my number one you tube golf channel always good info, all the new clubs have light shafts and light swing weights and I always played better with more feel do you ever fit someone with heavier clubs. I am a senior but still workout and lift heavy weights my swing speed is 103, 104 with the driver and about 87 with the 7 iron. Would like to come up there for a fitting, I live near Cleveland,Ohio which is about 5 hours or so away.

[@clubchampionmedia]

We definitely find that heavier clubs can suit certain players. Hope to have you in for a fitting soon!

[@gavin6535]

Great vlog 👍🏻 living these. Can you get one of your team to look at Ap3’s against another hollow head design

[@mattwilliams3104]

One of my favorite parts of watching your fittings is the on the spot customization. I've been to numerous fittings where they go yes you need to be several degrees flat but won't actually flatten the club for me to try. Or yes you need larger grips but won't let me try larger grips. Incredibly frustrating

[@frankmuscente1597]

Awesome video very helpful!!

[@MMcG25]

Incredible!

[@barrettbryan8905]

Where about are you all located in Canada? I noticed Sam's Leafs shirt in the driver fitting video.. I would love to get properly fitted by you all. I have family up toward Toronto and around Ontario that I try to visit often. Not sure what your offerings are but I would really like to stop by the shop sometime if you all had availability to set up a fitting.

[@hcard1971]

Another great video

[@thebeardedyorkshireman8368]

Hi how much do you charge for this service? I started playing in January and my rate of improvement is faster than my original irons can take.

[@jwfriend6952]

Amazing

[@johnrichardson4749]

I would love to get a fitting with you guys, unfortunately I live in Australia 😎

[@okoye05]

Was that a nippon 105 a regular or stiff flex

[@Cypher1710]

How do you get into club fitting? Is this something you need to work in the golf industry currently to break into? I have a full time job but my happy place would be the ability to work and help golfers of all skill levels without needing to get into Q School.

[@ronburgundy8174]

It seems that with the game improvement irons you have a trade off between distance and spin rate. This may seem like a silly question but will using a softer, higher spin ball make up for the lack of spin off of the iron?

[@jeremycolston8383]

Very informative. As a complete new golfer myself, who just bought a box set to get me playing and see if I actually would enjoy it and I do. I struggle hitting my irons consistently. Ended up finding some old Stryker's with graphite shafts at a yard sale. They seem more of a players style, just cavity back. Anyway my shots has gotten much more consistent, especially left to right. But after watching this I definitely need a club fitting and new clubs all around, but where to start? Irons, Driver, fairway woods or hybrids? Any suggestions?

[@clubchampionmedia]

Good question, irons are often a good place to start as they will affect your choices of long game clubs and wedges. It does depend on which part of your game you feel needs the most improvement, as that would be ideal to prioritize for the sake of improving performance.

[@mattsheehan5033]

Can you also do a putter fitting for a high handicap player? He’s about to be the deadliest 20 ever!

[@peterjaeger5178]

Can’t believe it’s taken me so long to find you guys. Amazing content. Where are you based?

[@clubchampionmedia]

Toronto

[@brynsuperblue52]

These guys are totally amazing wish they could sort me out

[@CCHRISTOF]

Can a set of Pings be retrofitted after purchase?

[@kevinmichaelx4894]

So matching clubs to a so-so swing. Does matching clubs to Sam's swing cause him to plateau? What happens when Sam corrects his swing? Maybe a new fitting for each plateau due to swing changes? When is it enough? I'm a believer in swing first, fitting later. Is it possible club fitting for high cappers is just a marketing ploy for fitters to increase revenue? I don't have the answer, only the questions.

[@clubchampionmedia]

Sam’s clubs are adjustable for lie/loft, so if he develops his technique they can still be adjusted for him appropriately. Occasionally a player will require a refitting if they’ve changed their swing substantially, but it isn’t as common as people think

[@mrjoaquinb1]

Are you guys ever coming to Northern California?

[@clubchampionmedia]

Planning to do our next TXG Sessions event in California

[@coltonallee6538]

As a mid-high handicapper, what is the best order to get fitted in? Driver to Wedges or Wedges to Driver?

[@jonasandersen2126]

Hey guys, currently playing the mp-54s. Don't know my true handicap (was 17 before the winter came). Been playing since June 2017-and last recorded handicap was october 2017. So probably down to 10-14 hcp now (still winter here). Playing around even par on the simulator now (but I think it's too kind on my misses). The thing that was holding me back last year was my iron play, so worked a ton on it and got new irons with more feel to them. My stock swing with my 6 iron is about 172-175y carry. Old nike VRS was 185-190 What I like about this set is that it's giving me great gaping down to my wedges (and GREAT feel), playing vokeys 46,50,54 and a callaway PM-grind 60. Do you think the Mp-54's are to hard to hit for a medium-to high handicapper like myself? I'm happy with the distances I generate as stated above, but do you think I should move in to some irons that are more forgiving on mishits? I know I should get fitted, but JUST the plane ticket to closest fitting center is 250$, so not in my budget right now. Thanks again guys for making these, can't wait for the next one :D

[@clubchampionmedia]

MP-54's have good enough forgiveness, if you're happy with their performance in terms of distances, dispersion etc. then it's likely they are a pretty good fit.

[@jonasandersen2126]

Thanks :D

[@thomaskuhn6541]

Another great video guys. Did you put Sam into an S or R flex, maybe you mentioned it and I just missed it.

[@clubchampionmedia]

R flex