5 Misconceptions About Car Aero!

Stupid Car Enthusiast Misconceptions About Aero! FWD DO NEED WINGS FOR RACING! LOUVERS DON'T HELP AERO; THAT'S A MARKETING LIE. ROOF SPOILERS ALSO DON'T HELP AERO...They make it worse in fact LOLOL (unless you have a Hatchback/SUV/Wagon/Van). What are you doing still reading the description? The title of the video should tell you what you should be watching and instead of reading the rest here, why don't you scroll back up...and listen to some of the stupidest car enthusiast misconceptions about aero! :)
Oh and watch my Vlogs too...or else the ricers will get you in your sleep.
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[@BladedAngel]

I can't believe I even have to clarify this, but I'M DEFENDING FWD WINGS in this video. I'm SUPPORTING Louvers, Vortex Generators, and Big Wangs...even on slow cars! I really had people comment "Why are you hating on FWD Wings, telling ppl what to do?". SMH the Thumbnail is written "LikE tHiS"

[@Swooshpragler]

This makes me laugh. Your channel is great for many reasons, the biggest probably being your capability of making and taking jokes, and yet many people STILL don't get it! I wonder how many of them are subscribed too

[@BladedAngel]

@@Swooshpragler Had someone with a 2 year subscribed badge try to tell me, "This why I hate you, so negative" *Me as a the crown King of Ricers who literally accepts almost every cosmetic mod:* _Bruh what_ If I'm negative in his eyes...I can only imagine what other Car KZbinr's he must've been watching in comparison. I'm not nearly as toxic as 90% of the car community. This whole video is DEFENDING "Ricers" with wings and other Aero mods. Even Doug Demuro teased Vortex Generators as dumb spikes on the Type R, but I defend the Type R here in this video. I genuinely wonder if those people who commented I'm a hater...actually watched the video I made 0.o

[@Swooshpragler]

@@BladedAngel Oh man.. If I had to take an educated guess, that someone was probably offended by one of the things you said (example, how the "akchually" car guys are annoying) and took it personal, hence the whole "you so negative" lol. That, or they only subbed for those number list videos that KZbin algorithms also love As for this video, the truth is it needs the title "quirks and features of aero", with each and every one of them needing their own Doug score.

[@kiev2004]

@@BladedAngel Lol, those ppl actually don't even care about you. They just subbed you and turned on notifications because of a video series they liked that you make, for example Normie's Guide. No other video that you post will seem good in their perspective. I live in India, a place where cars like Corvettes, Mustangs, EVOs etc are rare too see. I have a Mustang, and one day when I was stuck behind slow moving traffic on Tedhipulia flyover bridge, Lucknow, a guy got out of his car and walked up to my window. Then he said "y R u DrIvInG a MuStAnG". My reaction to this was "Bruh what, I'm 16, but I literally know everything to control these types of cars. And ABSOLUTELY love sports cars, supercars and hypercars. I have the freedom to drive Mustangs, F-Types etc because I have the money for that." Then he proceeded to say "oH wElL YoU kNoW tHaT sPoRtS cArS dOnT lAsT lOnG" then I said "Mustangs last a good amount of time you fool, this means you don't even possess the most basic relaibility knowledge, do you?" These types of moments are like so annoying when they happen.

[@lumh28]

hi

[@l.d.4841]

"Vortex generators are called vortex generators because they generate vortexes" Simply, Mind blowing

[@angryboianimates4444]

261 likes no comments lemme fix it

[@preston9344]

Let’s be honest, most people who get wings are purely for aesthetics, including me

[@BladedAngel]

As the current crown king of ricers: _I can relate_

[@hasnicktir5310]

@@BladedAngel We can call you katana'd angeru-sama

[@edwardrod605]

Yep I have just for looks

[@n1oh]

I mean it looks cool which is what we care about. and a little baby benefit call downforce but eh.

[@6gi]

Add it for the cosmetics AND your speed is better. It's a win win

[@clumsygarage1578]

The reason that FWD race cars have wings is because a lot of them have narrower tires at the back, or are just generally set up to turn in aggressively, to overcome the inherent understeer. Saying that front wheel drive cars don’t need rear wings is like saying rear engined cars don’t need front splitters.

[@Manuel-zc7po]

True dat

[@tobylarrison4826]

just wondering, did you mean rwd instead of rear engined?

[@beautifulbeaner]

@@tobylarrison4826 no

[@user-mx1fq6qm6i]

It might also be because they are inherently front heavy, so the rear is light (especially under braking) and it loses grip

[@robertocasalegno]

Who tf brings a fwd to atrack tho?

[@anynonymous1585]

Bladed: **doesnt make a list video** KZbin: *NAH BRO. AINT GONNA RECOMMEND THAT*

[@_Zekken]

I knew a guy who was tracking his Integra Type R. He was wondering about the factory wing on it, and was thinking "hell nah theres no way this actually does anything" He took it off, and went out for a session. He said the car was SO MUCH less stable through the corners. He came back in and immediately put it back on.

[@georgepapo]

"No amount of meds will make me like making list videos" he says Pure quality content, best channel ever

[@joshjackburns]

The reason Louvres exist on mid engined cars is for cooling, the Miura originally had a glass engine cover but it would steam up and the engine would overheat too. They solved this issue by creating slats to replace the rear window, not only helping with cooling but making it easier to see out the rear. It’ll be the same with other mid engine cars that have them, for engine cooling purposes while keeping visibility

[@sayeedalsifat1308]

The count of people like me who watch every single video you release (cause we have nothing to do and you're entertaining) rises and you won't have to comply to KZbins garbage algorithm

[@thebaguettecompany]

Love that license plate of that civic in the thumbnail....

[@dumbdoms]

*It's getting to the point now days that people are calling rice without even knowing why it's rice. I've literally seen people call time attack cars rice and I just face palm.*

[@Teknokill-jm2ub]

Yeah, it's like u paint your car some fool yells RICE!!!! Put new rims RICE!!!! Even if it's tasteful some fool wants to yell ricer!!

[@barkyonyx962]

they have yet to see Pikes Peak :kekw:

[@konner8766]

You haven’t been suggested in so long I thought you quit posting until I checked your page but hey now I have something to do

[@BladedAngel]

Ouch :( YT really is trying to axe me huh?

[@tacticalyuzu8278]

Yeah I heard wings do help even in cars with relatively low horsepower. Apparently some wings gives you downforce at like 50 if you adjust them properly. Sometimes those kinds of cars outperform supercars in a very narrow track so it`s definitely worth it

[@McRay2001]

Speeking of roof spoilers... This reminds me of the awesome Ford Escort RS Cosworth, which was way beyond its time in 1992. I loved to own one and still love it, even when I don't have one now. Just a beautiful car and great aero design.

[@Ren_184]

Hell yeah! 3 videos in a week!

[@gv.wizzyy]

Good

[@blockofcheese8015]

very good

[@logan12satcom83]

Indeed

[@cookracr]

I feel like this is the time to admit my custom plate on my Type R is RICER. 2021 is the year of rice positivity.

[@BladedAngel]

The word will have less meaning if we start owning it. Kind of like how, "Otaku and Weeb" used to be insults...now anime fans call each other that lol. if ricers accept ricerness and call other ricers ricers then ricer won't be an insult anymore!

[@cookracr]

@@BladedAngel that's exactly what I was going for! Their joke can't be funny when I beat them to the punchline.

[@sixunity1171]

as long as rice is not dangerious, i dont mind it

[@robertocasalegno]

@@BladedAngel makes sense, but i will still use it aa an insult

[@seanrade7675]

the french stripes at the front get better and better each time i see them

[@jnox3022]

I just absolutely love your vids. They give me so much more information about cars!

[@overpearl2110]

Tbh that's actually the best channel I ever seen in my whole life! Like frl we learn every day with this man! Keep up the great content

[@TekuJames]

That fact about roof spoilers is good to know, especially since i was considering getting one for my car. Great video!

[@errorsk2188]

This video was so cool and entertaining, I skipped exactly nothing. Well done Bladed. Well done.

[@maxanstine1139]

Great video. Noticed that thing though... 9:20 some roof spoilers like the OEM one from the 2006 WRX STI or the E9 BMW Batmobile have roof spoilers that are angled up instead of down. With this type of setup, it forces the air to follow the curvature of the glass and reducing drag.

[@LotsOfToubleUsuallySerious]

I thought that roof spoilers on sedans were used to kind of "extend" the roof and direct the air to the wing, specifically the giant aftermarket wings, because they are big enough to "recieve" the air and help with the needed downforce. But this is actually what VGs do

[@Lippertsjungetwitch]

Your vids are a great way to learn while having fun and being entertained

[@Ekksanpher]

Nice video, I’ve been raging about this for a while! :) As a heads up, the roof spoiler at 9:21 is functional (ish). Note how unlikely the others, this one follows the contours of the roof and is shaped like an aeroplane wing (generating arguably a little lift). Like ‘Fox ears’ on single seat race cars (eg formula student cars) that go behind the front wing to redirect airflow down into the radiators (like lift), this redirects air down under the rear wing, generating more downforce than the lift it produces. However it’s uncommon as VGs often do the same job. :)

[@Puskar2710]

Even if youtube doesnt recommend Bladed Angel his subscribers are still gonna watch it , btw your corvette looks clean and awesome to me 😁

[@that_c43amg11]

I LOVE the license on the type r in the thumbnail😂😂😂😂

[@vigneshkannan3921]

1) According to Lamborghini, They are vents for the engine cooling since not closing that up will help the hot air escape easily...... 2) The more downforce meant more corner grip and hence speed. So, you don't need to slow down as much as the other cars and more corner exit speed....... 60-80 is easier than 40-80................ 3) Just like the top part and is passes through it too(which most people forgot). Making it flat/easier for air to flow will also increase the downforce. It is easy and one of the first thing to do if you're modifying your car (for racing and not for show/rice). Not a long time follower. Just stumbled upon one the other day............and love your videos............... Please do a video about wheels (sizes and width) and the misconceptions regarding it......

[@hemanths3877]

Down force in track racing is all about geting net center of gravity and pressure point towards center as posible

[@andrijagrigorijev7353]

Thanks for sharing ur knowledge with us blad

[@railgunawesome7114]

More videos? Sounds like an absolute win!

[@kadenoberlander2548]

Wow I chose a good time to remember this channel exists, I'll subscribe this time

[@sebastiangeorger5791]

Did I see bosozoku Miata? That sounds awesome

[@Thomas-rx9ur]

Still watching so maybe you will touch on it; but I always thought it’s interesting that the Audi TT needed a spoiler installed for everyday safety, not just racing. It’s shape is so similar to an air foil it initially generated so much unintended lift. It needed some kind of trip wire to separate the laminar flow. Anyway…cool video. Gave you a like.

[@NightMare-jb5tj]

I like how you added the Volvo 👌

[@ghassanradwan25]

I honestly missed list videos. They taught me so much.

[@vapecat2558]

Hey man I am loving these videos

[@UnderCrownkings]

Love your channel love from Oakland

[@asaadallen9622]

Yay Bladed is talking about aerodynamics, finally!

[@the_earlybirf1170]

Finally a vid I can use to prove my friends my MR-S actually needs a wing for Autocross circuits even if it only has 300hp. My pal in his 350z has 400hp and started drifting through a transition. because lack of downforce

[@superracinggamer1354]

On your 5 aggressive car mods i agree with you on matte light colours

[@thenon-vapingsubie]

Uploading more? My man 🔥

[@__Not_To_Knovv__]

I'm kinda sad with roof spoilers being a bad idea, but if you put it like this, it's good info. good informational video, very useful

[@harmfulmelody5958]

some roof spoilers can force air down the rear window, the 06 sti has one that apparently does this.

[@tdiamonds23ice82]

Love your videos

[@andre_star7776]

The second argument is supported by F1. Just look at the setups they race at Monaco (A short, narrow and slow track) and Monza (A long, wide and fast track). At Monaco they use the High Downforce Aero Kit, and at Monza they use the Low Drag Aero Kit.

[@perplexxing]

WE NEED THE CULTURE MIATA

[@craazyy22]

Man. Lewd itasha will be a police magnet for sure. This will be entertaining :D

[@heylolp9]

if you need down force at slow speed you have to basically go full tilt on the aero package to find a way to still create the amounts of grip you need also at slow speed the aero efficiency is less important with efficiency i mean that it doesn't matter if the aero package creates lots of drag at higher speeds as you aren't expecting to reach that speed there is a reason why in racing there always has to be a balance between high attack angles and enough aero for the corners and still having low enough drag for the straights if you don't have high enough straights for drag to hurt you lap time more than you gain in the corners then a more aggressive aero package might help

[@jestmoba2200]

I can't wait to ride up there to see you in person. I'm subscribing

[@ponchodwarf1167]

Vortex generators actually increase turbulence but in a good way. They use the turbulence created by the vortex to delaying flow separation (air detaching from the body of the car, increasing drag). This also improves airflow over spoilers.

[@ap-xw6de]

Roof spoilers and normal spoilers can be useful if done correctly. Like on the 06 sti for an ex. there is a roof spoiler but it has a space for the air to flow under it to make the air go under its spoiler. Its not something that makes the air go over it but under it.

[@BurningmonkeyGTR]

There's a 4th reason for louvers, the Aventador sets open directly into the engine bay and act as an exit for high speed and high temperature air after the side intakes funnel it through there

[@carking5607]

This man should be our designer teacher.

[@Unpopular_Duality.]

"Even as a ricer I've got standards!!" A meme has been born!! Hahahaha!!🤣😂 I'm done!! Good one.

[@kianabay3977]

Now you might think that list videos are stupid, but you do make them very interesting and enjoyable to watch. Something not everyone can do.

[@BladedAngel]

I'll take that compliment

[@crusherman96]

Tbh, it's been so long since YT recommended me any of your video's I forgot I was subbed to you. Guess I'll have to go to your page myself.

[@CaseAgainstFaith1]

I never heard of a “vortex generators” until you. On another one of your videos. I had seen them before, but had no idea what they are. But based on your other video, I did a bit of research and ordered a set, not received yet. Very inexpensive mod.

[@mclarengeek3574]

I saw a 99 wrx with a a roof spoiler the other day, and it had a second wing at the back that was huge.

[@nicwaples6020]

vortex generators are like those little water spouts on the edge of pools with high dives that disrupt the placement of the water, reducing drag, and therefore making entry smoother as it prevents the molecules from aligning in such a way that would make hitting the water like running into a wall. in this case, it breaks up airflow to reduce turbulence and therefore drag.

[@mythran2374]

Some wrx stis come with roof wings, I think it more guides the air down the rear window than it create downforce.

[@gogurt_st]

I got scared when you said roof spoilers are rice, but then I remember I drive a Focus ST lol

[@Toolace]

1:18 That is literally my exact car lol, stock 2018 Honda Civic EX-T 1.5 Liter Turbo with 180 HP Front Wheel Drive CVT haha

[@sameffie7897]

love the Aussie Sierras in their

[@BenDover-ls7ou]

Saw the same Honda Civic as the thumbnail while on vacation in Florida except it was red with black trim

[@NH-xu2oo]

i would say that on low speed tracks I would instal a antirollbar and a good set of coilovers to prevent body roll because to me that seems to be the main problem

[@dwaynejohnson6644]

Yay more UPLOADS !!!!

[@epapa737]

Three vlogs are worth it despite hating anime

[@Soypaolamusic]

I like these videos like the vlogs, even if there for the algarithum I came for KNOLAGE.

[@OddJobEntertainment]

There are a few notable exceptions to the idea that a roof spoiler in combination with a rear spoiler is bad. The Ford Escort Cosworth as designed by Frank Stephenson was intended to have two spoilers (the finance department killed the idea before it hit the rally track), one that went straight back from the roof and another below it. This design did generate more downforce than either of the spoilers on their own. However, these looked pretty different to what most people are sticking onto their cars.

[@mariolis]

Hey so , can you make a video on first time car buyers ? I think it would be an interesting topic ... like "5 types of first types of first time buyers" or "stupid things car salesmen tell first time car buyers" etc

[@ianlerma8110]

Cant wait for the Miata!

[@cookowa3256]

Since you went to Lanier Motorplex I guess i'll mention downforce in oval racing. On short tracks like Lanier it's absolutely necessary for maximum speeds, look at Outlaw Late Models or modifieds.

[@LDCFITNESS]

top 10 best anime comebacks ever!!!

[@dbabu51]

Bladed with the consistent uploads

[@yourmomyourdad110]

Last time I was in Atlanta I seen your corvette

[@glow3727]

That miata at 4:19 is scaring me.

[@vanhasydan4754]

As to spoilers and wings, there are cars that are less stable at upper highway/tollroad speeds or the rear will begin to lift at a given speed. On roof wings, as an example, look at the Shelby Lancer. I owned one and had an incident where the roof wing tore off do to corroded hardware at 140+.

[@Speculativedude]

Thanks for starting with that one. I don't know where people got the idea that just because the wheels are not getting power, that they don't need downforce..... Do you want to go around a corner with your back tires having no traction?

[@OzarksOutdoors]

Most drag racers still don't use wings just because they do create drag, so if they do need a little bit extra grip in the back they just run just a spoiler. The only exception to the rule is top fuel drag racers, but it's mostly because there is literally nothing to the cars and they're going 4 second quarter miles at 300 mph.

[@pellegrino8911]

Yes please upload more

[@yourbluewaffle]

Just wanted to say that it makes me smile when I see you commenting on genshin vids.

[@mayuravirus6134]

If you already have a spoiler mounted on the trunk the thing you wanna put is probably vortex generator

[@that_hatchbak_civic]

You know vortex generators do something when you know they are commonly used on the wings of aircraft

[@EveryonesOniichan]

Spoiler +50hp

[@jamaisvu2664]

The window louvers can help smooth out aero if they’re on a vehicle with an aggressive slope. If they’re designed well that can change the angle of the roof line and smooth out the air to a spoiler which could allow you to run a smaller spoiler or a lower wing. Still they shouldn’t be the first mod unless you want privacy

[@Sheep_the_one]

bladed is reviving lets gooo

[@fizzystix5700]

Nice vid

[@sadeknight9112]

I agree of course but you didn’t specifically address what I think is the number one reason why some people don’t think wings on FWD cars are unimportant. That is a wing will add a ton of downforce over the rear but you need the most grip at the front since that’s where the power and turning are. Downforce doesn’t work in isolation and more in the back will increase the downforce over the entire car in general.

[@yellow13_]

I subbed just for the ISAF emblem

[@bailey33148]

The only car exempt from roof spoilers are subarus. The spoiler is angled in such a way to push the air down to the wing

[@shadowdraco8660]

I learned more in this video than I did in an entire course of physics. lol😂

[@calvinaleto640]

I like everything about the "Weebvette" except the name and the anime on the side But that's just my opinion. Do whatever you want to your car. If you like anime that much that you put it on your car more power to you, my man😎

[@nosirrahx]

I have louvers but the Evora 400 is mid engine and the engine air goes right out the open louvers. I switched from glass to louvers and the engine bay is noticeably cooler after aggressive driving.

[@orochifizz]

so I have a question about bladed. why are your videos so addictive my dude?

[@user-mx1fq6qm6i]

2 uploads a week pog

[@HJediting_tuning]

I have vortex generator for my Toyota supra and also a Roof spoiler for my Lexus RX

[@devandrasimanjuntak1646]

louvers make sense on a car that has a recessed rear window, like the DeLorean, 68-70 Charger, DeTomaso Pantera, etc. Because the louvers actually try to keep the airflow attached to the body rather than have it seperate because of the window. Of course, the best solution is to have a flush rear window in the first place (like what Dodge did with the Charger Daytona) but louvers can help with that without the need of changing the entire glass design.

[@Chevsilverado]

Basically, you *generally* don’t need a wing for grip when you’re going straight, you need it for lateral grip when you’re turning. Yes, you keep some power on when you’re in a corner to keep the speed up as well as preventing too much lift off oversteer, but a car needs both front downforce and rear downforce, no matter if it’s FWD, RWD, AWD, front engine or rear engine. I believe that FWD cars actually need rear downforce more than RWD cars as the rear ends of FWD cars are very light under braking and in corners. If a FWD car had a lot of front downforce and no rear downforce it would be over steering a ton around every corner. If a RWD car had a lot of rear downforce and no front downforce it would under steer around every corner. The F/R downforce balance would be different for different drivetrains though. For all types of cars you generally need fairly balanced downforce balance with a little more on the front, and the most amount of downforce possible for that track (ie. enough to be fast enough through the corners that the lack of straight acceleration doesn’t matter and you end up with a lower lap time for that track).

[@lambodriver217]

That professional ricer meme had me laughing so hard I cough up my chikfila waffle fries

[@rice_alcohol8732]

For the first misconception there is a old video of a ek9 going around a track with a wing and then without and without it is was drifting while with it is was staying planted