Matt, the 12 point socket is the preferred method but, no wheel lock is the best solution!!!
@leso204Ай бұрын
i have not heard of stealing wheels/tires from vehicles for many years now
@robertpointer79048 күн бұрын
@@leso204thank you for speaking for me. 😂
@alvilla7018 күн бұрын
@@leso204probably cause most cars comes with good looking wheels from the factory, so less people feel the need to change their factory wheels. Personally, I believe most factory wheels look better than aftermarket
@MikeyMack3033 ай бұрын
Great video! Your closing comment was the best part of the entire video!!!
@douce36235 ай бұрын
So glad people like you show people how to rip off even more of my stuff I worked for.
@johncunningham48205 ай бұрын
PRECISELY what I thought .
@milleradams8472 ай бұрын
Me too makes you wonder who they're trying to help
@richjordan64612 ай бұрын
Yesterday I got a flat...had to get towed because I didn't have a key...still trying to decide how to change the tire
@tonyledrew95602 ай бұрын
Idiot
@leso204Ай бұрын
@@richjordan6461 100% the clowns that remarked before you did not factor that issue in ,,,,,,,
@larryalexander48336 ай бұрын
A friend was in a bind after he bought a used jeep and it broke down and needed to remove the wheel. We used a wet rag to wrap around the lugnut to protect the wheel and welded a large nut to it .
@bleepinjeep6 ай бұрын
One of the easiest solutions if you have access to a welder!
@johannriedlberger43905 ай бұрын
@@bleepinjeep don't have a welder....don't do off-road
@edwardsimmons37216 ай бұрын
Always great to know how to remove factory wheel locks.
@myshots1015 ай бұрын
You are correct, if they want it they will take it, but this just helps slow down the process for those looking for a quick job. I had to do that with the locks on a car I have. Now I need to figure out how to get a new key so I can use them again.
@ve2um2 ай бұрын
THANKS A LOT !!!! Using your hint, i finally removed a security wheel lug. For info, for Toyota RAV4 original security nut, use a 19mm TWELVE POINT socket and drive it in with a small sledgehammer. And even more important, take care to limit the security wheel nut torque to 103 Nm ( 76 ft-lbs ) as suggested by the manufacturer. Tightening it to full torque ( 135Nm or 100 ft-lbs ) like the other nuts would result in a probable failure.
@canslono10846 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience.
@JonnyDIY6 ай бұрын
Great video Matt. Loved the grinding and putting wrench idea 💕👏👍
@pmas272 ай бұрын
Won’t work if local tyre fitters gorilla has used an air gun and not the propper torque on a security nut, they should be set less than the standard nuts
@eliastorreАй бұрын
I have a Jeep Renegade with these decorative bolt covers on them, they were destroyed by the dealer itself on a previous servicing and they wanted to charge me $200 plus labor for removing all of those and replacing them with new ones (that will eventually fail again). Thanks for your video, at least now I know I can remove them by myself, just need to get one of those wheel nut removal sets.
@Facepump6 ай бұрын
i worked for a decent sized auto/tire shop for a few years. ive have delt with customers that lost their wheel locks way to many times to count. when this happened. the methods you show work an ive used them. my goto was a air hammer with a chisel bit. it was pretty much a universal key for all the locks. if you can get to them without marring up a rim. so just go in at a angle on the wheel lock an can spin it right off with the air hammer.. worst case you can always cut it off the stud with the air hammer if ur having problems , you just may have to replace the stud when your finished that way. . one thing id suggest is going to your local tire shop, sometimes they have a key set like we did, we did not have every variety of key but we had a handfull of common wheel lock keys at the shop.
@noberet6 ай бұрын
Did you run through this a few years ago? Oops, you addressed that. Thank you!
@garyfeltman44826 ай бұрын
Easy out sockets work good. The first one you showed is the one that I was talking about. You can separate the socket with a drift punch and a vice. I have the gorilla locks and have a extra lock socket in the house for that very reason. Been there, done that!
@louarmstrong6128Ай бұрын
Use some lubricant too
@sagoodman9885 ай бұрын
Had the same problem with my sons Liberty Matt, got lucky that vise grips worked!
@bigbangger9989 күн бұрын
Thanks. Can't wait to start my new business, mag wheels supply. I'm thinking of naming the business. Matt's mag wheel supply. 👍
@RalphsPier19615 ай бұрын
Those wheel locks with the pretzel pattern should be out lawed. I had a full set of those on my Oldsmobile. One lug nut was seized tight. A friend of mine came over and showed me a trick. He put a slightly over sized cobalt socket over the bad one. Beat it on with a hammer. Then used the four way lug wrench. He was standing on the end of the lug wrench and the bad lug finally broke free. I replaced all the lug nuts with normal chrome ones.
@garboui15 ай бұрын
For the tuner or spline lugs, a 17mm 6pt with a piece of 3/32 welding rod or drill bit slid in one or two (if over torqued) spline flutes works like a charm.
@RichardWhelan-t7iАй бұрын
thanks for all the help and great ideas, I have tried welding through the centre of a hollow nut and I find that the weld just breaks when you try to undo it as I don't think the weld penetrate as much as needed but its nice to get other opinions. cheers from Australia
@ToddAdams12346 ай бұрын
Remember, “a lock only keeps an honest person honest”.
@RickaramaTrama-lc1ys2 ай бұрын
Yes, My did used to say that all the time when I was a kid many years ago~!!!
@ToddAdams12342 ай бұрын
@ I got that saying from MY dad as well. It’s not any less true though!
@terrylinellc5550Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@towmantowman6 ай бұрын
I had the mcgard ones get stuck on my moms car when the key snapped off (yes I used a handheld breaker bar to torque the wheel locks). I got lucky and went to harbor freight and bought a wheel lock removal kit which is the same as your rounded bolt removal tool you used. I couldn't use my cordless or pneumatic impact guns to get the lock nut loose as it kept rounding off the edge of the lock. I ended up being successful by using a sledge hammer to keep pounding on the head of my ratchet while keeping tension on the breaker bar I was using to unscrew the lock.
@Avanote19 күн бұрын
For those with this mega problem I had this issue some weeks ago with the MOPAR lock lug nut. This was my way to solve it: With a grinder an much care cut the spinning ring off; be very careful not to scratch the wheel. Once the ring off any method should work. I've seen a friend of mine doing it with his air chisel. This is another solution. Hope this help someone.
@JAMESschwartz16 ай бұрын
So happy to find a link to the chicken soup on Amazon! 😂
@pieteri.duplessis7 күн бұрын
Very entertaining.
@jjbjjb65476 ай бұрын
Got me to laugh out-loud at the Chicken Soup shot😂😂
@KrAsHtheKaRpEnTeR6 ай бұрын
The "chicken noodle soup" gave me a good laugh 😂
@daughertypb36636 ай бұрын
Ditto! 😁
@ArsonistArborist5 ай бұрын
I read this comment before I saw the reference and I was so confused how that would fit into this video 😂
@hughbrackenbury80402 ай бұрын
Great vid! Welldone
@RickaramaTrama-lc1ys2 ай бұрын
I felt sorry for you so I liked and subscribed to your channel and I enjoyed the video~!! I would like to suggest that the nut with the spinning ring might be removed if you got a high quality cold chisel that was sharp and cut that ring off the nut then apply the removal socket on the solid lug nut. I don't believe you ruined the wheel just don't show the car with that wheel on it. Thanks for the informative video as I didn't know a person could even buy one of these kits.
@MrJdubbya363 ай бұрын
I had factory locking lugs on my Titan. One of two dealers lost the key socket (it was there when I bought the truck and only had work done at two dealers). Had the truck at he dealer to replace a front axle boot and after having it all day and telling me at 6:30 at night that they couldn't finish because they couldn't get the locking lug nuts off. I couldn't believe it. I found a 12 point socket that fit just right, bought 4 generic non locking nuts and had all 4 off and replaced in about 15 minutes. The hardest part sometimes is getting the socket back off the nut once off.
@jeanenviedapprendre2 ай бұрын
I have more luck with 12 and 6 point sockets than extractor kits. I like the wrench idea.
@Follett21216 ай бұрын
Great video!
@jackg72252 ай бұрын
Always remember to check for your lug keys after having tires rotated! Luckily or unluckily, when I discovered the dealership couldn’t fix my flat, I needed a full set of tires anyway so I wasn’t charged to have to remove my locking lug nut that the last place the rotated my tires never put the key back.
@musabasete9822 ай бұрын
😅you are funny😂 I enjoyed your video👍👌👍♥️
@michaelanderson5975Ай бұрын
Great info for the thieves
@pollydor075 ай бұрын
Thanks
@mc.82902 ай бұрын
Thanks for vid.. i guess when in pinch most sets cost 17 or more well 20$ mchuard you can buy new removal ket .. so just have it on hand... Thanks for vid
@xArchyv25 ай бұрын
The Mercedes Benz wheel locks are the best, almost impossible to get off. The bolt holes are very small so you can’t fit any other sockets in it other than the traditional 17”. And they also have the rotating ring around the lock.
@BeantownStewie4 ай бұрын
Currently dealing with this issue with my 2019 c300. Tire guy is still trying to find a way around it.
@cessealbeach2 ай бұрын
MAP gas Torch, and a 12 Point ,under sized socket hammered in, did the trick for me on a 2022 Mercedes SUV
@dreamkiss4u2 ай бұрын
Just wondering if a universal socket the kind that has those pins that fill in or push in to blend to the nut any size would those work?
@paulromsky95272 ай бұрын
I think you can make an adapter that goes over the Mopar Lugs. The adapter puts one electrode of a spot welder electrode to the spin ring and the other electrode to the center of the nut. Apply power for about a second or two and this will fuse the spin ring to the nut, then you can use the other methods to remove it. Welding the inside of a nut to a lug is best, just tape/slip-on protective sheets/mats/pads around the welding area to protect the rims.
@Taz668811 күн бұрын
Been there and with someone else's car, so no beating the wheel or burning it with welding, on the ones with the spinning outside ring, get a Dremel or die grinder with a small carbide grinding bit, grind a groove deep enough to cut through the ring, use a large screwdriver to prise it apart, then one of the tools shown will work. Takes a while but no damage to the wheel.
@eric-tr7gfКүн бұрын
i use 20mm 6point sockets on factory mcgard locks and they come right out. I bought 4 cheap 20mm impact sockets so after i get the locks off i can mess with getting the locks out later
@Forbiddenoffroad6 ай бұрын
oh man that soup clip had me laughing way too hard
@terrylinellc5550Ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@kennethprocak51764 ай бұрын
Best advice at the end. And check what the spares got so you’re not caught out.
@Lebron4126 күн бұрын
Chicken soup was the highlight 😂😂
@XiaojunMa2 ай бұрын
I met the same problem and the dealer I went to helped to take it off and charged moderately for the work (plus the cost of new lock, of course)
@KPMACHINE15 ай бұрын
Very nice informative video. Mean to chickens tho.😉
@KyleC2OO75 ай бұрын
Good vid.
@lizard24256 ай бұрын
Wouldn't it be better just to buy the proper key ! 😝
@bleepinjeep6 ай бұрын
If you had the time or knew what key to order then ya sure
@terrylinellc5550Ай бұрын
Good luck finding the right key
@jeremyhanna38526 ай бұрын
In my younger days I worked at tire shop in major city there was only 8 designs just keep the keys super easy
@denos.26882 ай бұрын
After the chicken noodle soup joke, I’m subscribing. But yes, I found your channel very fascinating lol
@kimnach5 ай бұрын
About 5weeks ago I did a break job on my Silverado. Then a couple weeks later I was going to replace the plugs and wires. The easy way to do this is through the wheel well. Wouldn't you know it I couldn't find the lug nut lock key. (I think I may have left it on one of the wheels, because I still have not found it.) I went to autozone, got one of the lock nut removers and it worked like a charm. Throw it in a vice with the base of the lock nut clamped and remove the "easyout." My luck is that I will eventually find it in an odd place.
@WApnj2 ай бұрын
Whaaat.. the chicken soup wes hilarious...😂
@timnguyen602 ай бұрын
One more small solution, spray W40 in before unsrew the key lock. Wish everyones have a nice day.
@dannysweeney52066 ай бұрын
Bleepin jeep the black tuner are the same size as a 19mm we use 19s. At work the Mopar wheel lock can be taken off with 24mm
@robgigabyte5803 ай бұрын
Always used an old socket and hammered it on then backed the wheel lock off.. Never failed, worked in a tire and wherl shop for extra $$.
@terrylinellc5550Ай бұрын
That didn't work for me
@terrylinellc5550Ай бұрын
That didn't work for me
@ChristianThe_SpiritWarriorАй бұрын
What if its a narrow hole, which is the best way to remove without damaging the rims?
@neonmike99832 ай бұрын
I just go to my local junkyard they have coffee cans full of the correct lug nut lock removers . Loosen them up and replace them with regular lug nuts .
@thephilosopher136 ай бұрын
I was pretty sad to see how short this video is, and to see what the topic was! My favorite part of your channel is the 20-30min build videos. I’m sure you have your reasons, but I hope the next video is about 45-60 minutes, to make up for today’s shortness lol
@bleepinjeep6 ай бұрын
Lol, we've got 35 minutes coming up for you on Wednesday
@thephilosopher136 ай бұрын
@@bleepinjeep well I guess I’ll accept your apology and watch it too 🙄 lmao. There’s a lot of offroad type channels that post on Sundays, yours are the ones I look forward to.
@ToddKnauer6 ай бұрын
The chicken bit was pretty good. I don't believe putting more torque on all the other lugs will reduce the torque need to remove the lock nut though. It would be easy to myth bust with a torque wrench. Torque all nuts to proper torque then check to see how much torque is required to loosen one. Then torque them all to proper torque again, increase the torque of 4 of the 5 and then check to see how much torque it takes to remove the 5th. I seriously doubt it will be less than the first test.
@bleepinjeep6 ай бұрын
Maybe not on an aluminum wheel but on a steel wheel you can visibly see the steel bending in when you tighten the lug nuts as the rear mating surface is not flat.
@ToddKnauer6 ай бұрын
@@bleepinjeep You'll have to add it to your viewer mythbusters episode. :)
@rockon7566 ай бұрын
Hi Matt most of your dealer lug nuts are Maggard my God makes a master set for Impact Guns my experiences they work very good cuz they actually fit the pattern mcgard has like 10 different patterns they use are there other type of lug nuts yeah they won't fit what make you said Dodge GM Ford they do use the card problem of it is you can go to the store and get my card for under $50 so what you tell the dealership is take them off put the lug nuts back on
@musabasete9822 ай бұрын
The best suggestion 👉like you said 'not to use it at all😅🤛👍😂
@King_Bob_The_Third6 ай бұрын
Realistically, locks will only keep honest people honest. If a thief wants to steal your locked item he already knows how to defeat lock. Good video though. 👍
@aaadamt9645 ай бұрын
Those extractors should be used by hand not with an impact. Ive seen people "machine" the fastener down with them instead of it biting. I also keep a set of those spline drive sockets that are supposed to fit everything but really dont fit anything. Welding is typically the quickest way but ive found some locking lugnuts you cant weld to. 3m makes welding paper to help with spatter. Cut a hole in it to fit around the lugnut to minimize damage.
@davejalenderki2 ай бұрын
Put a 5/8” nut to the end of the lugnut and weld the two together from the inside of the 5/8” nut.
@ducko24246 ай бұрын
Lol wow... I died laughing after that chicken was setting there and then you cut scene to eating chicken noodle soup 😂
@johnthehammer77023 ай бұрын
I lost my key to my Lexus wheel lock over the weekend. I went to a shop and was told they could take it off but I had to come next day. I went to Toyota dealer who told me that it costs $290 without guarantee of not damaging other parts. but dealer told me goto Lexus. I went to Lexus dealer, who told me it has only 10 combinations. Dealer pulled out a box with all 10 types of key and one of them fit my log nut. I paid $25 and walked away with the key.
@pernilsson25123 ай бұрын
Over tightening the lug nuts will warp the rotors!
@garlandchisum99002 ай бұрын
I always use an air hammer with a chisel bit. It will screw it right off.
@savinggracechurch41122 ай бұрын
I am looking to remove locking nuts that are semi recessed on one side. So, half of the side of the nut is visible. Absolutely no way of hammering on a tool. My only option is to chisel it off. Unless you have another option for me.
@Angry_Bob6 ай бұрын
When you buy a new vehicle do they not put the lug nut key in the glove compartment no more?
@scottstewart90546 ай бұрын
The lug keys break often
@Angry_Bob6 ай бұрын
@@scottstewart9054 ahh
@bleepinjeep6 ай бұрын
Not in my experience, didn't receive the key and dealership was no help
@Angry_Bob6 ай бұрын
@@bleepinjeep no wonder Stellantis is on the cusp of going out of business then, can’t even give people a $5 tool anymore.
@kimberlyvaughan34306 ай бұрын
That’s why I enjoy watching your videos. I get iders. Haha 😊 God Bless 😊 love the chicken too haha 😊
@davidwoermansr5 ай бұрын
Hobo frieght has good sets
@christophersells91466 ай бұрын
That's a great Fresh Lunch 😅
@petrovich51885 ай бұрын
Hammering the whell nut may ruine bearing
@davidskipperskip5403Ай бұрын
Air chisel also worst ,makes groves for a socket.
@Kevin-ti3rz6 ай бұрын
To get that one off you should have turned the drill driver to forward. Reverse threaded forward should have backed it off ! Maybe ?
@pmas272 ай бұрын
We had to buy new socket as local tyre fitters had used air guns to refit security nut, should have used a tork wrench which is set to no more than 90, we still had to apply heat carefully to the nut and an extension bar to the wheel brace, these tyre fitters need training properly
@PetelaosoundАй бұрын
Wow
@cat22_a13 күн бұрын
Either buy a replacement key or replace the lug nut with a non-locking lug nut
@downfromthesouth4 ай бұрын
Make sure if you use a socket its a 12 point, and id advise against using an impact hammer, it might just strip the outside of the lock. Just got one off in 5 minutes, so much for a wheel lock😂
@josegerardodias55915 ай бұрын
Wheel thieves thank you for the tip and the wheel locks have become useless
@nathanblanton66744 ай бұрын
This implies that wheel locks have any value to begin with.
@moisesfuentes20902 ай бұрын
It’s Cheaper to take the car to any wheel ‘n tire repare store
@Gabriel-i1z1z17 сағат бұрын
I just sacrificed a socket and hammered it in there , bam it was out. The best part was the socket was still good
@jbuck35926 ай бұрын
I had a nail in my tire and it was going flat so I had so much time. Went to chance and stupid lock lug was on there with no key🤬 luckily my local tire shop had a the right spline key
@bleepinjeep6 ай бұрын
Nice, you got lucky!
@jbuck35926 ай бұрын
@@bleepinjeep love the vids Matt can’t wait till on x competition. Been voting !!
@fernandodelrio48393 ай бұрын
The person that suggested welding the nut , told you to weld it inside the nut. 🤷♂️
@carlt81886 ай бұрын
The reason the people at the Jeep dealerships told you to piss off was that they saw what you did to that Orvis Edition ZJ.
@trini4935Ай бұрын
A chisel and a hammer. Center the chisel on the middle of any wheel lock and give it a good whack. It's a intentional tool. 45 years with Toyota never failed me so far.
@johannriedlberger43905 ай бұрын
use a tig welder and don*t have spatter
@sptownsend9996 ай бұрын
Welp, the fact that I can find Wheel Lock Extractors at *the same place* that I can find Wheel Locks tells me _all I need to know_ about the security and ease-of-use of Wheel Locks.
@bleepinjeep6 ай бұрын
Ya, its more of just a deterrent than anything else.
@abdouallahuniverse56892 ай бұрын
So wheel lock dosen't prevent rims crooks from stealing your wheels anymore, because those guys are very professional, not just regular thieves.
@mrpopps63226 ай бұрын
Love the chicken noodle soup
@fu1r4Ай бұрын
They worked back in the 80s and 90s, but not today with all these battery driven tools we have today ...
@mh-qq2hj6 ай бұрын
I have always hated those stupid lug nuts. I worked in dealerships for 15 years and you wouldn’t believe how many customers don’t have the key to them or don’t bother putting it out where you can find them. I just love tearing through the glove compartment and everywhere else in some strangers vehicle looking for a stupid lug nut socket only to end up beating a socket on to remove it. Good times. I remove them from any vehicle I buy and replace them with a good solid nut. Same thing for those cheap ass nuts ford uses with the thin cap of chrome over the nut. The nut swells under the chrome and or the chrome part comes off and then you’re ruining sockets getting them off. Actually, those cheap 2 piece lug nuts are probably better protection against theft than locking lug nuts after a few years in the weather
@bleepinjeep6 ай бұрын
I bet tire shops really hate those things.
@kazhilly3 ай бұрын
Or…. You keep your locking key in a very clever secret hidden place in your car, you drop the car off at the garage for a job and you don’t realise that one or more wheels need to come off, and you forget to hand the key over before you leave, leaving the garage mechanic no choice…. I did that a few times……..
@donerickson73053 ай бұрын
I recently bought a 28 year old used car. No key. Solution: look in the glove box for the original manual and code for the key. Order key over the phone
@TheSamjane42 ай бұрын
Unfortunately the manual that came with my car is doesnt have that info
@lizard24256 ай бұрын
If you are in the boonies, and the tool gets stuck on the first Lug, what do you do for the other five ? 🤔 😅🤣😂 😁
@bleepinjeep6 ай бұрын
Thankfully with this type of expensive lug nut lock people will usually only use one per wheel. Most kits come with 4 locks or 5 for Jeeps because of the rear mounted spare.
@buddy19764 ай бұрын
You should call it.. the best way to steal someones rims with locks.
@russellwhite88906 ай бұрын
If there is a wheel lock on the car, you buy They should be bound by law to either remove it or give you the key.
@henkoosterhof59476 ай бұрын
Was the most expensive buy a lathe to get the nuts out of the sockets😉? Or where they cheap foreign so it did not matter😉?
@MatthewBerginGarage6 ай бұрын
I would just buy a set of wheel stud lock remover sockets from Harbor Freight for $39.95. But I'm boring though. 😉
@davidt84385 ай бұрын
Who does this type of destructive test on anything but a mock up or a beater/junk wheel? He’s definitely gonna need a new wheel stud.