Articulate Smoothly - Installing Shackle Relocation Brackets on a Lifted XJ

Ever wondered if there's a simple way to get more flex out of your rear leaf springs? With shackle relocation brackets you can improve the shackle angle and path of motion, resulting in smother and increased articulation and an improved ride quality. Check out this simple install which also adds 1.5" of lift when using your current shackle. We also discuss other options to accommodate no lift height change. There are a number of options out there for these but I found the ones I liked best are made by Ironman 4x4 Fabrication: ironman4x4fab....
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This product is meant for entertainment purposes only. Your mileage may vary. Do not try this at home. Void where prohibited. Some assembly required. For off-road use only. Slippery when wet. Batteries not included. Do not use while operating a motor vehicle, heavy equipment, cherokee XJ, wrangler TJ, wrangler JK, or any Jeep vehicle, especially the newer Fiat ones. How-to videos may be too intense for some viewers and children under 30 years of age. Please remain seated until the 4x4 ride has come to a complete stop. Studies have shown viewing these videos causes increased cancer risks in laboratory test people. I am not a professional, I have no training, I'm not even particularly good at horse whispering. Don't believe everything that you know. Please keep your hands in the vehicle at all times. Do not tap on glass. Do not eat anything that has been on the floor for more than 3 days. Keep your hands to yourself. Not to be taken internally. Reproduction strictly prohibited. Driver does not carry cash. Objects in Bleepinjeep mirrors may be farther than they appear.
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[@wvjeepdude9739]

Lol I thought this was off road recovery when I clicked the video I just seen a yellow XJ

[@geekytechycool]

I love your XJ man, I'm selling my JKU Rubicon to get back into the XJ life. Can't wait to start a new build with another XJ

[@spannersautocomputerrepair7528]

Love the wheels, color looks great.

[@DRTJon]

Which color, the toasted beige or the coal dusted toasted beige 🤣

[@1sidepro42]

Love the Rock crawling you killed this video

[@RyanWithAviators]

As always I like the content you create, Jon. Great work.

[@DRTJon]

Thanks Ryan

[@WorkshoptoWilderness]

Thats a nice product! Well made, I like the way it bolts into the nut insert for extra support. Thanks for the upload

[@marcmmclellan]

Love the TDI XJ!

[@DRTJon]

Me too :-)

[@tuguldurkarate9380]

p up ppl

[@everlast7771]

Love the ruggedness of the xj ✌🏻

[@GoatOffroad]

Great products and Great company!! This is the perfect idea for extra articulation!! ❤️🐞

[@Wooskii1]

Nice! This video was extremely helpful as my XJ came with SRBs and they were kind of a mystery to me. Seeing how they install and how they were factory, cleared up a few questions as I try to install a HD bumper.

[@paulhead]

Love the Tonka toy rims.

[@kykynkey7559]

appreciate the XJ knowledge Jon, got the android head unit you reviewed awhile back, contemplating the torq locker for my 97, its bone stock (staying that way) and daily driver year round plus summer camping vehicle , your video's have excellent DIY coverage and insight - keep up excellent delivery - subscribed !

[@DRTJon]

Thank you so much for the feedback

[@motownXJdad9565]

you may want to look into a torsen style locker especially if you have snow where you live, they are more expensive than a good lunch box locker, thats what im gonna run on my daily\weekend warrior

[@constructiontech1970]

Great vid Jon! IronMan 4x4 makes phenomenal stuff! I have 5 of their products for my XJ.

[@steveblankenship5474]

Nice job with the video. Those do look very well made. I can tell you these things do work, I had a FJ40 and they had a very similar product for the front leaf spring on a FJ40 and that was a nice upgrade.

[@snakeskinproductions7500]

Bought a set of these a couple months ago. Just waiting for winter to be over for install. No garage so have to work outside. Thanks for the video.

[@anthonyzhang4918]

Jesus criminy those bolts came out easy! I'm very jealous of the rust-lessness of your XJ!

[@paulhughes9722]

Good video man we like brackets and can't wait till this year's fan ride.

[@DRTJon]

Thanks Paul, I’m really looking forward to it as well!

[@bestmxer01]

Awesome video Jon! Like the clip goin up walk in the park at the end.

[@DRTJon]

Love that trail, the edit does make my attempt look super flawless tho 🤫

[@bestmxer01]

@@DRTJon I’ve seen a few rigs have to back out. The section leading up is pretty gnarly.

[@aslacker]

Great video Jon, and the Jeep looks like it's working really well.

[@DirtRoadTherapy]

It is man thanks! BTW you can still follow my adventures with the Spool Bus, just click on my user name 🙂

[@EvanRackle]

Great install video. Good direction and easy to follow

[@SamSam-ke9zy]

Its good to hear Ironman4x4FAB has a product thats good. The ZJ 1tons are just awful with bad geometry that binds on the track bar bolt and incorrect reamer size in instructions.

[@7_slot_fawkes698]

Look like it would benefit from a offset plate like what ORD sells to center the rear tire in the wheel well👍🏼 won’t add any lift just be able to move the rear axle back a little bit.

[@DRTJon]

Ironman does make a front leaf spring bracket that really beefs that area up and gives the adjustability you’re talking about

[@Nickwillfixit]

I had a similar system on my CJ2A and Suzuki 413 and found it worked and felt better with urathane bush's to replace the rubber items, but it is a great system mine was a home grown concoction my first try on the 413 was just a double shackle system from Australia, was OK but the back wandered a bit, not so with the second set up.

[@Garth2011]

Spare tire carrier is solid...

[@Skiridr22]

Great episode

[@motownXJdad9565]

iron man stuff is beef, but your shackle was hitting on the SRB until you moved it to the last bolt. if moving to the last hole wasnt an option due to shackle angle, you could have just trimmed the SRB with a spinning death wheel. you have quite a bit of flex for a low lift, i like that.

[@tonyb2086]

That was cool, looks like a well built part👍

[@dougj.8288]

I went into your playlist and maybe I’m missing it but I would like to see the build on this Jeep.

[@DRTJon]

It’s called Project Spool Bus which is primarily the engine swap. There aren’t videos on every single thing I’ve done. What in particular are you most curious about? I have a few videos planned going into more detail on certain aspects but let me know

[@dougj.8288]

I didn’t have anything in particular I wanted to know, I just thought it looked good. I have no problem re-watching long arm installs or SYE installs over and over as long as it looks like a cool project! And heck everyone has their own way of doing things. Either way your Jeep looks good and love the yellow!

[@MrBurtonPE]

Great video review and install.

[@PeterChasteen]

Oh wow what a nice looking setup. What size lift and tires are you running? I'm looking at getting the most out of my xj without putting any more lift on it (im at 2 inches right now). Your rig flexes so nicely! Thanks for the good info.

[@lifewithdoberman1701]

I have the bottom picture of shackle bracket i love it its heavy duty and mack the back of xj smoother

[@anthonyraines5951]

He said "Penetrating Lube" lol Love the video brother!

[@DRTJon]

Laughs in Bevis and Butthead

[@jeepdoctv]

Great information!

[@liftlower9509]

What are your rear leaf spring and front coil spring heights and brands? Also what other stuff do you have that would add lift? Trying to figure out your final lift height. Love the build. Trying to build mine almost identically.

[@captainsergeant]

Great product but man, I don't want to strip off my rear swing out bumper assembly. It was a pain to get installed...

[@DRTJon]

If you’ve already got nut strips down both sides there’s no need to remove the bumper

[@anthonyluciano2000]

Love your channel been here for awhile , I have a2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee and have a few questions

[@JoeyJenrette]

Picking up a 97 XJ this weekend, first Jeep ever, and the owner states he removed the sway bars front and rear. What are the pros and cons of this?

[@veteranveteran9915]

Great video as always! Would these help "soften" a harsh ride on a stock suspension?

[@metaldemon60]

Wonder if they will bolt on with an Iron man gas tank skid plate? I see you also live in PA. The first part of the video looked like Rausch. I like AOAA.

[@DirtRoadTherapy]

I'd ask Iron Man that, but it should! I believe I was at Rausch, AOAA, and FRO in this video hah! AOAA is a fave. BTW even though I'm not on BJ anymore you can still follow my adventures with the Spool Bus, just click on my user name 🙂

[@travismcvey]

Didn't go through every commen, and it may have been mentioned, but you don't want your shackle to go straight vertical on max droop. Going straight greatly increases the chances of a shackle flipping over backwards which will destroy your leafs.

[@rickmarquart3277]

Love the videos, like to see the banana, in action! 👍🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@Fix_It_Again_Tony]

Looks like a good product. I like that it is adjustable. Just curious where you read that 45° is the optimum shackle angle. I assume this is at ride height based on the video. I am doing some research on leaf springs and am trying to collect some knowledge.

[@DRTJon]

I honestly couldn't tell you for sure, I've been told that a few times but don't take it as gospel definitely beneficial to do your own research! It definitely handles the best when it's not angled sharply. After things settled in it was too sharp of an angle and the handling was not ideal

[@motownXJdad9565]

thats pretty much the concensus on the XJ interweb world, likely found by trial and error. they also do not ride, or brake well when they are at 90 degrees either which is typical with extended shackles and no relocation brackets

[@Fix_It_Again_Tony]

The way I understand it is the flatter the angle the less the effective spring rate at the wheel (wheel rate). If the shackles are too flat then I would expect excessive body roll as wheel rate will be low. There is some diagram floating around that says the opposite, but I am pretty sure it is wrong. This guy explains it well with some examples: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJnUi558Z6lpqdU I do agree that this kind of thing is subject to some trial and error, like picking coil spring rates and making shim changes to shocks.

[@keithbaker1951]

Where did you get that flag In your rear window? I saw some on Amazon but their ratings were very poor.. thanks for this video as always! Love this channel! 99 jeep xj 4.0 auto 4×4 365k miles

[@DRTJon]

Skull daddy graphics on Amazon. If they got negative reviews it’s from people who don’t know how to install a large vinyl sticker no doubt

[@amm8914]

Was watching the shackle move and twist as it went over objects. What’s your opinion on boostwerks’ shackle? Might alleviate some of the binding and get a better RTI.

[@LadyBoogScoots]

Is this compatible with the smittybuilt rear tire bumper? Didn't know. It went into a nut strip which is why I ask because I think that bumper does too

[@WaffleCopterCO]

Has anyone found out yet? If not I guess I'm about to later today

[@LadyBoogScoots]

@@WaffleCopterCO man testing my memory hard here. Never got the smitty but it should work fine. I have the shackle relocation brackets installed along side my home made bumper which uses nutserts I stole from an old rugged ridge bumper I cannibalized.

[@dedmeat2]

To improve articulation even more, add a set of boomerang shackles.

[@Arykperry]

Or just delete them !!!! LOL

[@gatordave6629]

I'm sorry what is a echoes in the front you said you wanted to adjust

[@joachimjohan1215]

have you ever heard about the XTOOL X100 PAD2? u know if its bi directional? AND the Ancel X6 OBD2 Diagnostic?? (supposedly does some bi directional controls)?? cheerz!

[@5150MotorSports]

Nice install, looks like it maybe an easier install than the SFR kit I installed on mine.

[@motownXJdad9565]

true bolt in, no drilling no welding

[@5150MotorSports]

True, but I think I like the design better on the Stinky Fab Raceing relocation brackets.

[@motownXJdad9565]

@@5150MotorSports i like the the Liquid Iron industries xj slider boxes personally, you get to keep your LCG because theres no lift, and you get all the articulation, and they ride like butter on the street.

[@5150MotorSports]

@@motownXJdad9565 Ya, there are pretty sweet, but haven’t seen or heard too much about real world reliability, wondering how long the UHMW bushing last? Just seems like a lot of wear and stress on those 2 polyethylene sliding bushing.

[@savagemustelid421]

So longer shackles would be installed in a more forward position bolt hole?... (depending on leaf length)

[@danhambrick6331]

Those look really nice and beefy.What kind of rear bumper do you have John?

[@DRTJon]

I bought it locally without the swing out, apparently there was a guy in my area who made a few dozen of them several years ago and failed to really market them. I have modified several things on it and the swing out I built. I keep my tow straps, hitch, and some shackles in the storage compartment.

[@acokedupmonkey3762]

Would just a shackle in the stock configuration work or do anything significant enough to add or would it just hit the bumper?

[@Matt-xx8mt]

I see the wheels are 17x7 from other comments but what’s the tire size?

[@justinshaver1]

Does the shackle rub the relocator? I thought I saw some contact during normal articulation

[@dylanreynolds4899]

How much angle is ideal for the shackle when weight is fully loaded onto the leaf springs

[@n0-one0]

Matt, we need an FC update!

[@russjowett2137]

Great video John. Great amount of flex in the back of the Jeep now!. Looks like the torque masters rear locker is serving you well! How do you like it still? Have you had a chance to drive it on icy/snowy roads? I’m seriously considering it. I’m just concerned about driving up hills round corners on icy roads in 4wHigh. Your rockslides I see are welded into the sill. Did you make this John? Or buy bolt on rock sliders and then cut out the sills and welded them in place instead of bolting them on. You really have built a very good all round xj! Great off road performance. But still has good highway manors. Very well thought out build. 👍

[@DRTJon]

Thanks for the compliments Russ. I love the locker still. I just drove it in snow covered roads we had a storm last week the plows couldn’t keep up with and I drove for 12 hours that day all over the region. I did not get stuck until the end of the day when it was 20” deep and packing down to ice under the tires and then all it took was 2 minutes of shoveling to get free. I drove highway, back roads, windy hilly roads, gravel roads and dirt trails in the snow and was blown away with the performance. I did not need 4WD high on the street but at times was more comfortable with it. I did feel the Jeep wanted to track straight as an arrow (but not making it impossible to steer) under acceleration in 4 hi but coasting or lifting the throttle it would take corners exactly as expected. I never wished the rear was open that entire day and I never felt the Jeep behaved unexpectedly or poorly. Very impressed as I fully anticipated snow would be the biggest drawback to this setup.

[@DRTJon]

As for the sliders they are JCR Crusader sliders nothing is cut or welded just a few holes drilled for nutserts in the rocker

[@russjowett2137]

@@DRTJon Thanks Jon

[@russjowett2137]

@@DRTJon this is really awesome feedback. Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you. 👍 Hope there will be a future video of your Jeep in the snow and ice!

[@s1erok]

I would love to see you guys build a 1977 cherokee chief!!

[@DRTJon]

How about an 88 Grand Wagoneer with a diesel?

[@s1erok]

@@DRTJon hope that's a plan not a tease! Lol

[@DRTJon]

It’s for real, I have one I started building years ago and need to get back to. It won’t exactly be a full build but it will make an appearance in several videos as I do things worthy of documenting and sharing here. If you’re on IG follow @bleepinjeepjon and scroll back past all the yellow you’ll see it

[@troydeck3017]

so whats under the hood?

[@vwfanatix]

Great tip JON! I want it on my XJ!I have also diesel XJ, with 4,5 inch lift, but now i look for some bigger and budget wheels on it. What car are from rims you are used on your XJ? They have great backspacing or you are use some spacers? Thank you much for response.

[@DRTJon]

They’re off a Chrysler 300 or Dodge Magnum or Charger they’re a 17x7. No spacers on the rear but the hub kit does widen my front track width about 1.5” total

[@cashhiltabiddle6280]

What rear bumper is that

[@matthewsanders6499]

I'm currently running a 3" RC lift with shackles that are at a horrible 90 degrees straight up and down. The rear end is a back breaker and I'd like to get a little bit of forgiveness. I like the ride height (if anything, would go lower) and want to use relocation brackets to get a better shackle angle. BUT I'd prefer not to go any higher. Here's my question: The regular relocation brackets look much easier to install, but they should add height. Will this height be offset by the fact that my decreasing shackle angle (more horizontal) will shorten the overall lift? Should I go with the no-lift versiob? If I'm currently at dead level and use the no-lift to decrease the shackle angle, won't that be a net decrease, and bring the rear down below the front? I have to daily drive my jeep on sh*tty nyc roads. I need a little more forgiveness without going any higher.

[@agustinhidalgo405]

I have a 96 xj. I have rough country relocation shackles...no matter what location it seems to fold over and won't spring back if. I have to lift body with my jack to fold back out..any advice?

[@michaelkeyser5272]

What size tire & wheel combo are you running?

[@chrisstrobel3439]

So I have an old school (pre 4WP) Rubicon Express 5.5 short arm lift kit on my 96 XJ, I added ACOS up front and a 1” block in the rear (and added a ladder bar to control axle wrap) So you think it’s worth the labor to ditch my 1” blocks and use these instead? Thanks for the video 👍

[@DRTJon]

I definitely would

[@crayfishroll]

By any chance was that last rock crawling trail " walk in the park" at Rausch Creek ?

[@DRTJon]

Indeed

[@DieselsHOGVlog]

Ok very cool. I just bought an XJ in the fall and I want to lift it first. I’m thinking only 3” (any advice on a lift kit and shocks?). Then I’d definitely like to do this!!

[@cablenowadays6586]

I’m running a 3” RC lift with add a leafs and then bilstein 5100s and 31” KO2s. The front was about 3.5” of lift with the kit and the rear with the add a leaf and saggy springs settled to 1.25” of lift. I did longer shackles from rough country on the first setting and it put the rear to about 4.5” of lift and 3.5” in the front and it looks level now the gap from tire to fender is the same front to rear. It’s a nice budget lift but i recommend going with the full leaf packs and also keeping rough country shocks. I notice a very little difference when going to 5100s but it wasn’t a 400$ worth difference. You might want to do a new trackbar preferably a adjustable one. Also i’m going to run 33s and regear pretty soon with lockers because i ahve plenty of clearance when i cut my fenders. For the most part you can’t go wrong with most rough country stuff. I would definitely recommend skyjacker or rubicon express before rough country lifts.

[@DieselsHOGVlog]

@@cablenowadays6586 I really appreciate the info! I’m a pretty big Bilstein shock fan so I’ll probably stick with that, but I’ll definitely take a look at the RC lift. I agree with the full leaf pack replacement, the factory stuff is crap!!

[@davidmyers5702]

What brand of wheels are you running I’ve been looking for quite awhile for something like your running.....thanks

[@DRTJon]

Dodge Magnum wheels

[@mblake0420]

I need one of those nut strips. You got a link? The rear of your jeep looks sagged, raise it half inch

[@extremeduty2570]

I got nutstrips from JCR with the gas tank skid years ago.

[@artardFTW]

so, could you still have a trailer hitch with these brackets?

[@DirtRoadTherapy]

Yes, you can see I have one here after the install!

[@FerociousSniper]

Have you been liking the Dana 35 you're running? Seems like you do some moderately heavy wheelin on it.

[@DirtRoadTherapy]

It's an 8.25 and it has held up really well

[@FerociousSniper]

@@DirtRoadTherapy oh dang. That's awesome. Been thinking about swapping out for one of those.

[@DirtRoadTherapy]

@@FerociousSniper it’s worth it. Get the 29 spline that came in 97 and newer models.

[@IdRatherBejeeping]

What winch mount is that?

[@robertzumwalt1098]

What size of tire are you running

[@DirtRoadTherapy]

285/70R17

[@kenji1444]

Will that same bracket work with a gas tank skid plate?

[@DRTJon]

They definitely should, just be sure to install these closest to the frame. Depending on the skid it might need to be modified a little but definitely modify the skid not the SRBs

[@amberbudd8848]

We are new to the social media community and we are trying something new. We see how sucessful you guys have become and would like to know if you could possibly share a few tips with us? We are trying to do videos and pictures of our offroad adventures with our little family and our friends. We are also trying to use this platform to support the DD community since that is our field of work and also have family in the DD community. We would like to purchase or find new hospital beds for our local facilities at first and hopefully get big enough to branch out all over to the entire DD community. Any tips and tricks you could offer would be greatly apperciated! Thank you so much for your time and for considering! Amber Budd CrazyHorse OffRoad

[@DRTJon]

I always just say consistent content is the most important. I mean that in terms of the quality and production value of your videos, the relation of content from one video to the next, and also in terms of frequency of posts. If you post one video every 3-5 months on completely different topics and it’s roughly edited with no real story to follow, you won’t get much traction. But if you regularly post quality video that is on the same general topic each time, you’ll gain an audience. Hope that helps.

[@amberbudd8848]

@@DRTJon thanks! My husband and I love the bleepinjeep videos!

[@cadilakisrodcustom]

Did this kit come with the new nut strips?

[@DRTJon]

It doesn’t come with them but they’re just a few bucks extra and well worth it.

[@chrisconley8105]

Are those 31's?

[@DRTJon]

285/75/17 ~32.5”

[@neilgrover1585]

@@DRTJon If they are 32.5" then are you sure you didn't mean to say 285/70r17? According to the online calculator I used, a 285/75r15 tire should measure out to be roughly 33.8" while the more common 285/70r17 comes out to 32.7". Thanks. I have the same wheels but want to get roughly a 33x11.5 equivalent tire.

[@DRTJon]

You’re correct Neil, they are in fact 285/70

[@Tanner731]

what wheels are those? ive been trying to figure out what those steelies are for awhile

[@DRTJon]

Dodge Magnum/Charger/300 17x7” hubcap wheels they’re made by Fumagali

[@Bleepincolt]

Shackle power!

[@bcivic88racer]

Have you encountered the Shackle contacting the SRB on compression? my shackles are getting chewed up from hitting the bracket (different brand) wondering if i need to try a different shackle

[@motownXJdad9565]

if your angle is correct, just trim the SRB so the shackle clears on compression. doris and daddy offroad has a great vid on it

[@bcivic88racer]

@@motownXJdad9565 I thought about doing that, didn't know if that would compromise the integrity of the SRB

[@motownXJdad9565]

@@bcivic88racer that would depend on the brand and thickness of the metal. ironman4x4 are super beefy. i think in the vid i suggested they trim RC SRBs and they were fine. if you re watch this vid on Jons XJ his were hitting too until he moved the bolt to the last hole.

[@bcivic88racer]

@@motownXJdad9565 ill check out the vid thanks

[@phillims1]

Nice job. What's the total lift of your rig?

[@DRTJon]

Sitting around 5” I believe

[@freelancing_101]

Hey everyone, I’m trying to get into Overlanding but don’t know anything about mechanics. Does anyone have a trusted mechanic in Utah?

[@samsinsigallo1399]

What engine in that thing?

[@DirtRoadTherapy]

VW TDI swapped! You can see more of it on my channel too (I'm not part of Bleepin anymore) just click my user name

[@freeridin12345]

what rear springs do u have do u have that much weight in back or are the springs that soft i want that

[@DirtRoadTherapy]

These were Rubicon Express 3.5" with a lot of miles on them. I ended up getting IRO 5.5" and had to remove the SRB. Still rides really nice. It's all about the shackle angle

[@freeridin12345]

i have rc 3 inch rear springa and srb and rubicon express shackle still not that great lol guess try different springs

[@DirtRoadTherapy]

@@freeridin12345 I didn’t have it in the video but I’ve since added an Antirock and it really helps transfer flex to the rear

[@freeridin12345]

thats the problem i had the srb and didnt ride much different no matter the angle and do the iro leafs seem to longer main leaf to help with shackle angle then

[@freeridin12345]

also i see your running some good old white tube shocks

[@hondacamoutdoors7104]

You, my friend - neeeeeed smirf gloves.

[@thegarage305]

멋진 영상 잘보고갑니다

[@epicness646]

Matt’s off-road recovery called, they want his Jeep back

[@DRTJon]

Maybe he has mine?

[@dylanromine4101]

Just get a missing link

[@larryalexander4833]

Kroil is 👍👍

[@DRTJon]

Totally, I need to get some more every time I see it I cry a little because it seems the price goes up $5 every year or so haha

[@larryalexander4833]

@@DRTJon I cannot remember where I saw it . Thier was a show or article that talked about the contents of Kroil. They mixed up a concockson of several ingredients . They tried both and it worked just as well as Kroil. Sorry I can't remember . But Kroil works miracles

[@onsturn]

A 50/50 mix of ATF and Acetone works well

[@samsinsigallo1399]

What engine in that Jeep? A diesel?!

[@DirtRoadTherapy]

Yep a VW TDI. There's a bunch of videos on the swap here on the channel! And I've moved on to my own channel, just click on my user name ;-)

[@milesvinson]

I could barely understand what he was saying due to the background noise. It sounded like an airport is close by.

[@cunever]

Now that you stole Mattsoffroadrecovery.com jeep, you couldn’t wait to retrofit it with leaf springs just to find out that that was an extremely bad idea and now have to modify your mistake to save your face? Hilarious🤣😂🤣🤣😂😂

[@davidreynolds731]

Holy run on sentence.

[@cunever]

@@davidreynolds731 innit? 🙂