X-Men #8: The Raid on Graymalkin BEGINS

[@karmabum21]

When Cyclops said, "I was never fun", I cheered. This issue reaffirms why Cyclops is THE man.

[@8mad]

I fully LOVE Cyclops and Magik's relationship. That they understand the other and have each other's backs. They're one of my top duos.

[@JES408]

I agree 100% and I'm so happy that they have kept their relationship going through all the changes

[@jorienwachukwu466]

I'm surprised they haven't become fuck buddies at any point in time, all things considered.

[@RyeLeeBread]

​@JES408 I agree fully but I REALLY wanted her to end up on an Emma Frost led X-Force.

[@RyeLeeBread]

Like a team of Emma, Havok, Nightcrawler, Laura Wolverine, Quentin, Kwannon, and Archangel would be sick. Maybe even 616 Blink and Doug (even tho the Doug sail has also set [bummer])

[@JES408]

@@RyeLeeBread yea i think that also would have been cool to see

[@IrvinReedTemplarUp]

Slim got Magick. He's gotta thing for Goblin Queens. Ororo got Colossus. She's gotta thing for individualIty amongst the crowd. Those Rasputins are loyal to a fault, especially to their ideals. Kinda hard to call yourself 'leader of an Xmen team' if you can't recruit one. (See Deadpool.)

[@johnwright-b2l]

Characters like Dr. Ellis are why Max Eisenhardt considered his original anti humanity point of view was correct.

[@vincentfranklin17]

Those guards beating Hank. . Made me furious!

[@AshrafKhan-dl3ut]

It made me super uncomfortable- also I hate that they are consistently doing Beast dirty

[@KenFromchicago]

Xman on Xman might be a decoy. Like in prison movies when prisoners fight each other to distract the guards.

[@LifeAsToldbyDani]

11:58 Clearly she dated a mutant and they broke her heart and now she’s making it EVERYONES problem

[@jorienwachukwu466]

Wouldn't be surprised

[@insighttheformula]

13:56 there was a time were Wolverine was the leader. Storm and cyclops were not there. Example of him giving orders when Wolverine fought grey hulk in that iconic comic with hulk’s reflection on wolverines claws

[@bajansamurai]

All recall that Wolverine has led teams, but the point being made is that he has always been portrayed better suited in the gruff, warrior role than the tactical, field leader role; whereas Cyke is almost as defined by being an analytical, tactical planner. That doesn't mean they cannot or never have been more than that, but some things seem to suit them more than others. Wolverine feels more at home leading X-Force black ops than hero-aspirational peacekeeping missions. Likewise, Cyke tends not to be suited to taking orders unless it's coming from leaders of the mutant movement such as Xavier or Magneto.

[@bill930505]

Hulk Smashed the like button too quick! 😂

[@TrueComicsGuy]

I love this issue specifically because Calico had the chance of going back into the world being viewed as human but she chose to stand with her mutant brothers and sisters.

[@bryanabbott6169]

I'm thinking that Dr. Ellis is going to use Prisoner (Professor) X to cause the X-Men to attack each other, so they'll be easier to deal with afterwards.

[@kwamintaylor4247]

All of these writers are having to undo all of the hot mess Ben Percy did on his x-force run. It’s like he didn’t know the characters

[@Mukazaki]

She's literally Candace Owens

[@seeleunit2000]

Please don't give that woman or the writers any ideas

[@bajansamurai]

Practically, but only if she was a mutant acting like a "flatscan"

[@TitularHeroine]

I really like the Outliers (kept forgetting the team name). I didn't at first but when the mechanics of their powers and their backstories were gotten into, I saw more of their uniqueness. I still think that maybe Calico actually isn't a mutant, but shares a symbiosis with Ember -- who is. Kind of a Moon Boy & Devil Dinosaur situation. And as always, thank you!

[@rodneycarson6964]

Marvel has its Amanda Waller!

[@ZeeB...]

I was going to say Abigail Brand, Moira are few who acts like Amanda Waller.

[@seeleunit2000]

Seriously, why did they have to make Beast evil then switch him out with a clone ? It just complicates everything and how is the topic of existential dread not brought up ? Why couldn't they just have beast be like he was in the 1992 version of the X-Men ? I miss that version and the version of Professor X

[@buildaggedonarmanaziie4462]

Why do I feel like in this raid that they will all meet Charles Xavier again?

[@MichaelOrias]

Agree, man. Like, I liked just about all of the X-Men, at least those who were on the team regularly for stretches of time. That said, always felt Wolverine was a bit over-rated and over-hyped, and Cyclops has long been in my top 5 favorite X-Men. He gets stuff done, and though he has his imperfections, when it comes down to getting down to business, he held it down. Maybe he bottled it all up a bit too much, such that he had to full on step away when he was faced with great personal tragedy, but that felt relatable to me, even being as young as I was. But, different strokes for different folks, I guess.

[@buildaggedonarmanaziie4462]

In the issue where the bad Beast seemingly died trying to save Wonder Man, they say that there was no body, but I believe that it said that he was incinerated, so how would they be a body if he was incinerated?

[@bajansamurai]

The "no-body rule" doesn't mean a body can't be incinerated or disintegrated to nothingness, it is a simplified way of saying if we the readers do not see the act of a victim's demise play out, writers often come back later and claim that something happened off panel that prevented that death. An example: Damsel X is stuck screaming for help in a building. Hero Y flew in to save X, Mercenary Z blew up the building leaving the durable Y holding only X's singed, signature diamond from her melted ring, Judge A sentenced Z to prison for the crime of offing X. We are *"certain"* of X's death because we understand the explosive incineration left nothing but ashes. 10 years later a writer brings Damsel X "back" by writing that Hero Y knew whoever hired Merc Z would have just kept sending other assassins if they thought she was saved. Y flew X out of the building out of sight before the explosion, but flew back in with the one item identifiable as hers he can claim was durable enough to survive the heat and force. He then faked being distraught to sell the loss. No regrets about sending Merc Z to prison because he's an assassin, but Damsel X was really given a new identity and secretly relocated all along. We, the readers, basically never *"saw the body"* so no one can refute that telling of events that brought her back. On the flip side, we see Gwen Stacy's broken neck from the fall in plain daylight, so there's no way to claim she wasn't dead. Bringing her back requires shenanigans like cloning, occult resurrection or alternate universe transfer.

[@EZ-bx9pc]

Great artwork

[@richiepommells180]

Cyclops and Magik is the Batman and robin version for marvel Magik is a kid sister to Cyclops

[@JES408]

That's a great comparison and i hope they continue their bond for many more years

[@karmabum21]

I love it. I hope Oya does the same. She can be one of the other Robins

[@Алексей545-т6б]

Magik is more independent and self sufficient than Robin

[@trehubb6144]

Wait people thought you were gonna review a comic without spoiling it😅

[@BBoldGaming]

I wonder if gambit charmed calico…. I wonder if he sparks her off to be the endling

[@blackphoenix77]

I'm so tired of seeing Hank McCoy getting his ass beat 🙄 And geez, can we PLEASE get some X-Men stories that don't revolve around discrimination and mutant race hatred? Send them to space, the Savage Land, anything but this over and over again.

[@saywise1106]

Clearly you don’t know X-Men history! They have ALWAYS, ALWAYS used mutants as a stand in for racial minorities!! So, if you don’t like how these stories are written then read something else!!!!

[@blackphoenix77]

​@@saywise1106 Whatever man, I said what I said.

[@mcmisery]

​@@saywise1106 you are proving the point that they are telling the same stories over and over again. Thats why the Krakoan era was received so well, because it was something a little different than what we were getting. When will mutants make any progress. When will we see more different stories because if mutants are supposed to represent minorities, then marvel needs to write stories for mutants thats not just about being oppressed. lives of minorities are more than just being oppressed.

[@ZeeB...]

I think that is his point, we are tired of the same narrative ​about mutant discrimination. I understand they always going to experience that but they could be telling more unique stories instead of the same shit over and over. @saywise1106

[@wakamoon1910]

@@saywise1106 and why do you think the x-men were in decline until hickman changed things up with the krakoa era?

[@CorvinusRahl]

I really like this edit, b.

[@andreseivwright695]

I've always loved cyclops he might not be fun but he gets the job done, but I've always wondered how would he do leading the avengers and no East,west or uncanny avengers it has to be the main team, everyone else for a turn when is it going to be his,

[@jimmymenethil3990]

Yeah

[@venomabsolute5807]

Dr. Ellis is on the hate timing as the Shawty at the beginning of Miles Morales current run

[@FatalFury3.V.W]

Marvel vs Capcom 2 type shit is real nostalgic if that's the angle they were going for, idk imo ty and gb ❤

[@buildaggedonarmanaziie4462]

Can someone please tell me the exact things that Beast did during the Krakoa era? Because I didn't really keep track. I know he did some messed up things with Mutant Growth Hormone, the plant technology that he used on the people of Terra Verde, and using Wolverine to kill people and experimenting on humans, mutants, and aliens in this "Death Star" looking thing, that is all that I know. Please tell me exactly what Beast did? Please?

[@bajansamurai]

There are some pertinent details of HOW he did those things that matter as much or more, but you hit the pertinent events. All in all, it is the shadiness of all those activities that underscored how problematic he became. It wasn't like he reserved his experimentation for just the worst of the worst aliens and others, willing participants or cadavers. He secretly incarcerated tons of sentients and some may have done relatively little. He basically bought Wolverine at auction, made stupefied versions of him and pointed him at people (some who made indirect infringements). At the end he was fully an enemy of his peers, and willing to do mass casualty acts.

[@BlaqDee]

I just realized Tera Verde is Greenland

[@confidentmystic]

Since Storm was basically Magik's mother you would think they would be closer but Magik avoids Storm.

[@ZeeB...]

Probably because the storm who trained her is different and she died saving Magik.

[@bajansamurai]

At best, I could get behind the two teams falling out with each other over whether to try liberating Xavier himself while freeing the others they came for, but so far I don't see the groundwork for them being so opposed that tbey'd clash with each other for real (unless influenced by whatever process turned Syrin, Blob and others against their own).

[@Jeremy-z5i]

Maybe the cross-over should be called "The Recovery of Greymalkin." Because surely, after Dr. Ellis is gone & Professor X & the rest of the mutants are rescued, the building can become a place to live in once again just like it was back in the 1990's (Uncanny X-Men + X-Men.)

[@bajansamurai]

Possibly, but it seems like the intent is to keep them based in the other locations for a while, so the outcome of this raid isn't going to be what removes Ellis from the playing field. That might be a way off so her whole purpose can be fleshed out.

[@Dont-Ask-Me-My-Name]

I've always been down with Cyclops but I'm a much bigger Wolverine supporter &growing up everyone gave me shit for liking both characters. I only started to turn on Cyclops when he started cheating with Emma but once he made out with her on Jean's grave I was all the way out. Until the Krakan era brought back the Cyclops that always enjoyed &I don't care for for Magik &Cyclops relationship it's a bit too reminiscent of Xavier &Jean to me; you know like father like son. And Cyclops's birth father is a creep too but militant-leader Cyclops is interesting &I'm looking forward to how this arc goes

[@Алексей545-т6б]

Magik Cyclops relationship? They more like boss and his trustworthy right hand man

[@ginofrancejr555]

I believe that there is something in her past that involved mutants that give her the motivation for dr ellis. But eventually i see either cyclops or xavier kill her

[@fcm3d]

Let's go!!!

[@Dele83]

No more keep it plus ultra outros? 😢

[@jacksondaniels007]

It'd b wild if prisoner X ended up being Nate Grey or that piece of Magneto that was left in the pocket reality Nate created.

[@RyeLeeBread]

The change of Beast has been ever since he came back after Dark Beast killed his priest and his high school girlfriend and ALMOST his parents and locked 616 Beast in a basement. Do I think most writers knew that was the origin? Naw, some just built on each other. But, absolutely, it started there.

[@RyeLeeBread]

And on Magik as Scott's left hand is fun since Cannonball used to be his right hand in the later 90s.

[@darkempire2022]

Poor Beast 😢

[@richiepommells180]

Poor beast his karma has come But I remember cyclops past self felt guilty for things he didn t do And who brought kid cyclops to the present beast So now It’s beast past self to under go his journey of regret he can t take Back But I wish they never kill prime beast his character as a villiAn was scary and he Has the potential to be the next dr doom Sometime marvel needs fresh villains for rogue gallery.

[@karmabum21]

I wish they would've revealed him to be Dark Beast instead.

[@Art80385]

Great video

[@jasoncrowell8863]

Ellis. Yikes...that's some of the coldest shit ever.

[@kealanmurray4385]

Ellis is on klan levels of racism🤣😭

[@Dragonknight834]

We’ve seen this before the Willy lynch letters 😢😮

[@SuiteVII]

She walked in on her husband with a mutant

[@ugoeze7360]

11:22 I can fix her.

[@fauxmintdissident]

Technically………she would be considered Black excellence. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@JohnJones-pt3rc]

Omg… Grade A ‘cism from Dr. Ellis.

[@ginofrancejr555]

Or if we get krakoa era beast back heaven help dr ellis

[@RavenCoyote]

bigotry needs no reason, blerd.

[@monroerodriguez]

the new xmen villain seems to be based on the real kamala harris

[@TitularHeroine]

.......huh??

[@jarrodgoforth1257]

I think jubilee was came into the comics At the till end of the 80s like 1989 actually I think 🤔 I have that comic book 📕 it’s older than I am.