BLHeli_32 vs BlueJay: I found the best settings for both ESCs but which will perform better?

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Chris Rosser

Chris Rosser

Күн бұрын

In this video BLHeli_32 and BlueJay slug it out for the title of best ESC firmware. Thank you to Tyto Robotics and Unmanned Tech for supporting this testing work!
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ESCs:
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Chaos 30A BLHeli_S ESC:
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@Gosuminer
@Gosuminer 2 жыл бұрын
I remember the times when people thought they needed to upgrade to BLHeli_32 to get the best performance. Then JESC came out and shortly later JazzMaverick's BLHeli_S build and now there is BlueJay and I am really thankful for the dedication these developers put into keeping BLHeli_S ESCs awesome. It also shows the power of open source software so don't forget to give something back to the people who saved you money and/or provided you with a better flying quad.
@ChrisRosser
@ChrisRosser 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on. Well said Snorkl!
@wearemany73
@wearemany73 2 жыл бұрын
Open source is the future of rapidly evolving, successful software. (and hardware) Testing, evaluating, improving
@coilockerfpv
@coilockerfpv 2 жыл бұрын
So crazy! I was just searching for BLHeli32 settings videos to set up my new cinewhoop build and realized you posted this today! Thanks for your hard work on all this testing!
@sendorm
@sendorm 2 жыл бұрын
One of the things I like about your videos is that, all the results are given in a very easy to comprehend and check results page. This is nearly never done by any other youtuber. Great work as always Chris, keep up the good work.
@ChrisRosser
@ChrisRosser 2 жыл бұрын
You have to show your working if you want full marks! 😁
@aphinion
@aphinion 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRosser Seconded. Especially on the whole ESC-Level the explanations where lacking so much proof. "here is how motor timing works... and how does that relate to your settings? I don't know, I just enter the ones, everyone else puts in. So you should, too!" - finally someone shows what these settings actually do. I bet this test bench and testing was a ton of work. Kudos for doing it so thoroughly on a scientific level you can actually compare and draw conclusions from!
@matuka3755
@matuka3755 2 жыл бұрын
Great analysis, Chris; and very practical, as well :-) Thank you!
@howitzerm777
@howitzerm777 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this info, setting up right now.
@mbug7973
@mbug7973 2 жыл бұрын
Extremely good video as always, love it! As an molecular bioanalyst seeing all these graphs and tests is a real joy for me! Suggestion for next video: Could you maybe make lecture video about vtx antennas and radio stuff in general? This is still extremely confusing for me and probably others too.
@thfpv4974
@thfpv4974 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome works Chris 💪
@robertgosz4281
@robertgosz4281 8 ай бұрын
Lovely data. Thank you!
@baggszilla
@baggszilla 2 жыл бұрын
YESS! I love these videos Chris! Thank you buddy.
@ChrisRosser
@ChrisRosser 2 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome!
@KCQuadTronX
@KCQuadTronX 11 ай бұрын
learned alot from this very detailed and inspirational video...Thanks chris
@Willf85
@Willf85 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video Chris, outstanding test. Now you can bench all the different motors haha
@erikvf7
@erikvf7 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! Thanks for that. You actually save us a lot $$$
@jejefpv
@jejefpv 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, thank you !
@JD-FPV
@JD-FPV 2 жыл бұрын
awesome work thanks!
@cristian_c
@cristian_c Жыл бұрын
Great video, thx!
@GoonzFPV
@GoonzFPV 9 ай бұрын
Great video!!
@Atlas_FPV
@Atlas_FPV 2 жыл бұрын
Love these videos, find the best settings and then set and forget on every quad.
@ChrisRosser
@ChrisRosser 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, that's the goal. Perhaps even get BlueJay devs to make 15deg the default? Then no need to even set!
@svenniefpv
@svenniefpv 2 жыл бұрын
Thank's for the great info and work, it didn't surprise me, because i found that my blheli s (bluejay) esc equiped quads always are a little bit more responsive and less prone to propwash than my 32bit quads. But the trottle resolution is little bit less, i use little bit of trottle expo to handle this. On my 3 inch 1404 motor quad, i reduced the propwash a lot by using 24kHz instead of 48kHz with Bluejay and 15degr timing, but it reduces a bit of top end
@gonebdg
@gonebdg 2 жыл бұрын
Well done ... thanks Chris and thanks Bluejay!
@CesiumSalami
@CesiumSalami 2 жыл бұрын
Woohoo! Some seriously excellent content here. As a non-racer, on my dynamic freestyle stuff it gets really hard to tell a real performance difference between blheliS, bl32, and am32 if I'm being totally honest going just by feels. But where I do really think it's worth am32 / bl32 with "by rpm" is for cruisers and bigger quads surprisingly enough where lower pwm at lot throttle can make a noticeable difference but perhaps more so the occasional issue where a section of throttle you cruise at is at one of the aliasing points .... could definitely be making it up but it really seems like 32.8.3 and by rpm really mitigates some random oscillation points with certain throttle settings that sometimes are classified as MTO's, but disappear with "by rpm"
@brighFive
@brighFive 2 жыл бұрын
These tests are fantastic! I don't currently fly above 3" but I'm deep into whoops and would be very curious what the results look like at that format/ motor size since the difference between 24, 48, 96 pwm seems to have much more dramatic effects. Motor timing as well. While I'm at it with the unsolicited suggestions, I also dare you to design a whoop frame 😅
@uavtech
@uavtech 2 жыл бұрын
DAAAAMMMMMMNNNNN.... KISS be like "whaaaaaaaa..." Always stuck to the 24khz PWM, but going to check out variable now in 32.8.3. Also going to be checking out that sweet 16-deg timing! VERY nice work Chris!!
@ChrisRosser
@ChrisRosser 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark! Do you think it's worth testing a KISS / FetTec ESC? I could find the best settings and put it up against BL32 and BlueJ!
@CiottiFPV
@CiottiFPV 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRosser I would LOVE to see that, we need to put as much hard data in front of the cult of KISS members as we can to try and save them from all the time/money they're wasting
@uavtech
@uavtech 2 жыл бұрын
@@CiottiFPV we need to team up. Seriously. But its about "the feel" Ciotti! Until I show them how Fettec and ULTRA don't look like legacy KISS and are looking more and more like BF! 😲
@CiottiFPV
@CiottiFPV 2 жыл бұрын
@@uavtech Dude I'm down %1000, I was SO "HYPE" when I built a KISS rig a few years back and then it just did everything worse than BF and had no support. I feel so bad for everybody that falls for it like I did and wastes so much time/money
@BikeGuyFPV
@BikeGuyFPV Жыл бұрын
@@CiottiFPV started with KISS five years ago. Recently put a KISS FC back into a freestyle frame just for fun and saw a night and day difference in how laggy it was compared to BF. Immediately put the BF FC back into it shortly afterwards. Did get a FETTEC G4 and an Ultra FC to try out, and again just to see for myself if the "hype" is really up to what it is. Long story short it probably will be just "meh, it flies but that's about it..."
@PKNEXUS
@PKNEXUS 2 жыл бұрын
Let the battle of the ESCs begin!
@ibnfpv
@ibnfpv 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the updated tests on 2207 more common motor size And the use of 32.8.3 latest blheli To really compare latest esc FW head to head As always great work It is a bit funny that at the end we are returning to the 50% default ramp up And 16 deg default timing settings 👀😎✌️💆‍♂️
@colinmetzger6755
@colinmetzger6755 2 жыл бұрын
That just goes to tell you that the engineers who originally landed on those values as the defaults knew what they were doing. 😁
@ibnfpv
@ibnfpv 2 жыл бұрын
@@colinmetzger6755 that right We can fine tune but most of time without since/ logs ti confirm the var we change we can do worth then good
@volkergoe
@volkergoe 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@kvngnz958
@kvngnz958 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this scientific approach.
@skree_fpv436
@skree_fpv436 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Chris! Thank you for doing these tests. Would these settings, mainly timing, be the same for smaller motors like 1204?
@billmcdonald4335
@billmcdonald4335 2 жыл бұрын
I just switched to Bluejay 16.0 running at PWM 96K from JMaverick 16.73 running at 48K. Made my 4 year-old, 100mm, 2S whoop fly like a totally new machine - and I get a full _50 seconds_ more flight time! Definitely a must-have if you run BLHeli_S.
@RecursionLabs
@RecursionLabs 2 жыл бұрын
This saved me a ton of time on future testing I was originally planning to do. Thanks for the work. How did you sync the spin up times to compensate for the variable USB timing latency when triggering the spin up vs the ESCs getting the command, or did you just repeat the tests and average?
@ChrisRosser
@ChrisRosser 2 жыл бұрын
Lots of repeats and average. There is some variability but it's not too bad because the thrust stand handles both ESC commands and data collection so USB latency is less of an issue.
@Flamenawer
@Flamenawer 2 жыл бұрын
Don't leave your job to others, make your tests, maybe you get different findings. Because that we progress
@sendorm
@sendorm 2 жыл бұрын
Wow did not expect that. Good job to bluejay devs for making a great esc firmware with no fee. Open source is the winner.
@ChrisRosser
@ChrisRosser 2 жыл бұрын
Me neither. That's why I love these tests!
@JarredBaines
@JarredBaines 2 жыл бұрын
"Let's get ready to thrust test" is my pickup line! 🤣🤣🤣
@ChrisRosser
@ChrisRosser 2 жыл бұрын
I bet it works great "out in the field" 😁
@yanshen6593
@yanshen6593 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Chris for this great video!👍 There are still two things I am very confused. Tests in your video are using 12N14P Configu-ration Motors. For these 9N12P Motors, Can also use 16 deg Motor timing and 40% rampup power settings to reach the best performs? Second thing I want to know is there possible to set Demag Compensation off to get higher power or motor response?
@maudib8605
@maudib8605 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you repeat this test with the escs programmed with the other firmware. That would eliminate hardware differences.
@YoYoYo
@YoYoYo 2 жыл бұрын
This was great video. Can we see more budget motor comparison with that machine you have? Like xings vs eco vs velox.
@rctom1
@rctom1 2 жыл бұрын
BLHeli_S on bluejay are awsome, also the startupsounds that´s given there is a nice gimmick.
@PeterMMMMM
@PeterMMMMM 2 жыл бұрын
How does this carry over to smaller motor configurations? Awesome videos. Thank you!
@wearemany73
@wearemany73 2 жыл бұрын
Let's get ready to rrrrrrrumble! 😁
@Thebogdanpascal
@Thebogdanpascal Жыл бұрын
are those applicable to any motor size/smaller inch drone? like a 2.5? (a noob here trying to learn) my quad keeps on yawing when arming and accelerating if trying to correct
@eskrace1104
@eskrace1104 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! 🙏 Thanks for a colorful and insightful test 👌 Did you notice any significant difference in the working temperature on the esc's with the different settings?
@ChrisRosser
@ChrisRosser 2 жыл бұрын
Not at all. Both ESCs stayed relatively cool during my testing.
@eskrace1104
@eskrace1104 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRosser Cool😎 Thanks :)
@samavella8831
@samavella8831 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Chris! Great analysis. Can I assume that these settings would be just as reliable and efficient on smaller motors as well? Cheers 🥂
@aakashjana6225
@aakashjana6225 2 жыл бұрын
smaller motors benefit from higher PWMs afaik. more efficient for little to no loss in torque.
@samavella8831
@samavella8831 2 жыл бұрын
@@aakashjana6225 But will that not have a repercussion on the stopping response, as per Chris’ tests have shown?
@breakflight
@breakflight 2 жыл бұрын
I love data informed decisions. Thanks for giving us data that we couldn't create ourselves. I'm also a fan of open source software being tied with top tier closed source. Thanks to the BL Heli S and Bluejay devs.
@ChrisRosser
@ChrisRosser 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks I'm happy you enjoyed it!
@RobertLeclercq
@RobertLeclercq 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think the results would change using different ESCs on respective FW? What about higher pitch prop, wouldn't that affect braking speed? Possibly motors of the same size with different magnets?
@SSBelmont
@SSBelmont 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Chirs - I am using 16kHz and ByRMP, 50% ramp power and 16deg timing. I am also using the Karate 5" 6S preset on BF 4.3 RC3. My motors are hotter than I would like. What would you recommend I try to reduce the temp of the motors? Any tips you can recommend would be greatly appreciated.
@dronepilot260rc
@dronepilot260rc 2 жыл бұрын
Nice, I just put a BL heli esc in my fixed wing and it feels like it has more thrust and responsiveness compared to a ztw 30a esc designed for planes.
@eduardkhilenthusiast
@eduardkhilenthusiast Жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, will Dshot 1200 make a BLheli_32 ESC perform better than a similar BLheli_S ESC with Bluejay? If so, will the additional performance justify the added cost of switching to BLheli_32?
@onemanmob6756
@onemanmob6756 2 жыл бұрын
Exciting stuff! My 5c: - you compared a single ESC (BJ) to a 4-in-1 (BL32) - can we be absolutely sure that a single ESC do not have an advantage over a 4-in-one (e.g. noise and heat dissipation) - IMHO this subject calls for a test/video of its own - I'd love to see the remaining major contenders i.e. AM32 and JESC also included - in particular BL32 vs AM32 and BJ vs JESC and only after winners in these comparisons have been found, put them against each other - knowing the ultimate winner is good when we are shopping for new gear, but knowing whether BJ is better than JESC or if BL32 is better than AM32 would be helpful with making choices as to the gear we already own
@ChrisRosser
@ChrisRosser 2 жыл бұрын
Good Question. I don't think there is a mechanism for a 4in1 to perform worse when it is still only driving 1 motor. In fact it should perfrom better because it has extra caps etc. compared to single ESC.
@jmillerfpv
@jmillerfpv 2 жыл бұрын
The FPV scientist Chris knows best!!! very well educated engineer! Not one of those Kiss frat boys that’s brand washed.
@sunsetpark_fpv
@sunsetpark_fpv 2 жыл бұрын
IDK a shlub like myself would be able to tell the difference - but thank you for doing PROPER analysis.
@francisdaoust5862
@francisdaoust5862 2 жыл бұрын
What is the advantage of the dshot control board? The supplyer can t really explain why it can be good for my 1585. Thank you
@Otidoesstuff
@Otidoesstuff 2 жыл бұрын
Could you project your test results to let's say 1103 motors or even smaller 0802 motors where 48kHz might make a big difference in efficiency?
@HunterplaysminecraftKove
@HunterplaysminecraftKove 2 жыл бұрын
So question, Im running the BLHeli_32 Settings as in the video, on 4.3 RC2 and I keep Desyncing after 100% throttle what do I change to fix this? The motor Timing
@DriftaholiC
@DriftaholiC 2 жыл бұрын
So I'm guessing ByRPM offers less braking at higher rpm then 16-128 as the PWM is throttle linked there. So then I wonder if a different setting would be better dependent on prop pitch or size. I'm thinking your results might be different on a 7" setup or a very low pitch 5" vs a very high pitch 5".
@tillyFPV
@tillyFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Does Demag compensation for blheli32 do anything? If so, what would you recommend to set this to?
@ChrisRosser
@ChrisRosser 2 жыл бұрын
In my testing demag did nothing. So it's probably not being triggered even in the the acceleration testing
@yotwist_
@yotwist_ 2 жыл бұрын
Did you think of making guides or schemes to build testing stands as such? This way community could scale this process in the future and test more component variations. Speaking of your vibration analysis, I would be happy to pay for your model (and guide to apply it), if it’s ever released I’ll grab that 😉
@ChrisRosser
@ChrisRosser 2 жыл бұрын
I got my test stand from tyto robotics. Link in the description. It's not something that is easy to DIY.
@bentpropsfpv6266
@bentpropsfpv6266 2 жыл бұрын
are theses setting the same for 4s setups ? thanks
@tonhabraken9339
@tonhabraken9339 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting!.. how would this translate to other, smaller motors? Up to, say.. 0802's?
@zachcarrizales5038
@zachcarrizales5038 2 жыл бұрын
0802's have a different n-to-p ratio. Larger motors are a 12n14p where as 0802 are a 9n12p so they have a smidge inherently less efficiency.
@aviphysics
@aviphysics 2 жыл бұрын
I would really like to see a test like this with the prop in 50 to 100 km/hr airflow, similar to a R/C plane cruising speed.
@MouwDown
@MouwDown 2 жыл бұрын
I guess I wouldn't of guessed that the performance of blheliS would have been so similar to or on par with blheli32.
@GrimSpeedFPV
@GrimSpeedFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris! Wanted to ask you this! On blheli-s is it ok to run bluejay on esc still if not using bidirectional filtering in betafiight? And which do you think is better then if can. Blheli-s or Bluejay? Reason asking I run emu flight and thinking of trying out bluejay. appreciate your opinion on this 🤜
@ChrisRosser
@ChrisRosser 2 жыл бұрын
BlueJay should be fine even if you aren't using bidirectional d-shot. I haven't tested BLHeli_S yet.
@GrimSpeedFPV
@GrimSpeedFPV 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRosser cool thank you Chris!! It looks really error free and like having the tones. I'll give it a go!
@BelmontFPV
@BelmontFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Quad flies great using 16deg timing, 16kHz- ByRPM, 50% Ramp-up but the motors are a little too hot. I am running the Karate 5" 6S tune and I tweaked the filters a bit. Any recommends to get cooler motors?
@ChrisQuadFPV
@ChrisQuadFPV Жыл бұрын
Did you ever fix those hot motors?
@RCOverKill
@RCOverKill 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris. I've often wondered if the price difference was worth getting bl heli 32.
@ChrisRosser
@ChrisRosser 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to help
@illicit_fpv8208
@illicit_fpv8208 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone else having problems with the current meter on the mamba f55 128k esc? I have 2 of them, can't get either of them to read correctly at all in BF4.3... (yes I've tried calibration)
@BikeGuyFPV
@BikeGuyFPV Жыл бұрын
Have you found with BLheli32 ESCs flashed on 32.9 where if you clip something, the quad will spazz out and then once you've disarm and go to re-arm one motor will not spin up? Then you have to do a full power cycle than the the stuck motor will start working again like nothing happened? This keeps becoming a recurring thing and I'm not sure if it's FC firmware/settings or possibly ESC firmware/settings. Anyone else has this happen to them?
@fabianisensee3744
@fabianisensee3744 2 жыл бұрын
Hey @Chris Rosser we were recently discussing what the max theoretical RPM is that an ESC can sustain. And whether that number also depends on the switching frequency. The though process was that (we believe) a small motor with 9N12P needs to switch at least 30-ish times per revolution (exact number is unclear to us). That means, with a 48kHz switching frequency it should not be possible to go faster than 1600 rounds per second. Unfortunately that thought process is being contradicted by a 3" quad that we have that provably goes beyond 800 rps on 24kHz. Thoughts on that?
@ChrisRosser
@ChrisRosser 2 жыл бұрын
Sure! A 12P motor needs each phase to switch 12 times per rev I think. So that would give 2000 revs per second or 120,000 RPM on 24Khz.
@fabianisensee3744
@fabianisensee3744 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRosser thanks! 🙂
@breakflight
@breakflight Жыл бұрын
I check back here often and scrob through to find the results. I'll save myself some time. Here's a link to the findings: 11:30
@jmc_fpv
@jmc_fpv Жыл бұрын
Which motor do you use for this test Chris?
@PaulSokolov
@PaulSokolov Жыл бұрын
This Bluejay firmware for BLHeli S only, or can be support with BLHeli 32 also ? For this moment (can't find any info about that)
@KevnRC
@KevnRC 11 ай бұрын
Cannot support 32-biut ESC's. Blheli S only.
@johnrichard4076
@johnrichard4076 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry I’m new to this. In blheli 32 so you change the low freq to 16 and what do you set the high too. How do you do the byrpm setting? Thank you.
@johnrichard4076
@johnrichard4076 2 жыл бұрын
It only gives me the option to select high to 128.
@BikeGuyFPV
@BikeGuyFPV Жыл бұрын
@@johnrichard4076 what BL32 version are you on? You need either the 32.8.3 test code or the official 32.9 to enable ByRPM. Just slide it all the way to the right for High PWM and it will change from 128 to ByRPM.
@TERBANGFPV
@TERBANGFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Chris, what do you think about that mamba 128k blheli32? Issit good or bad?
@ChrisRosser
@ChrisRosser 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's good! The 128K PWM does make a difference if you use variable PWM in BLHeli32.
@TERBANGFPV
@TERBANGFPV 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRosser so the 128k is not gimmic.. but the durability of it still a mystery
@crezzlin
@crezzlin Жыл бұрын
Thank You.. Can I still get and use Bluejay or has it moved on? Cheers
@vbrown8522ify
@vbrown8522ify 2 жыл бұрын
I have iflight nazgul evoque 6s how can I get bluejay it won't flash my esc any advice?
@rolliseventeen
@rolliseventeen 2 жыл бұрын
I always try to get the most supported hardware, which leads to top products. I can’t see a benefit in using older slower hardware, because there will be a lot more coming out in the next time which will cut out all boards without F3 and F4 processors. If you are already tuning at this level, you can’t save money any more looking 1 year into the future.
@JeromeDemers
@JeromeDemers 2 жыл бұрын
this prove that software is also important.
@cinemoriahFPV
@cinemoriahFPV 2 жыл бұрын
At wide open throttle the gates on the mosfets are wide open so the power output should always remain the same I would think?
@ChrisRosser
@ChrisRosser 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it should do. Small differences may be down to the FETs, timing and board design.
@fpvfanatic
@fpvfanatic 2 жыл бұрын
Hello I was wondering if you can clear something up for me. My blheli 32 esc goes up to 48hz pwm frequency. Will it be safe to set the variable pwm low 16 and hi by rpm? Or by setting it to hi by rpm cause it to go past my max of 48kz
@ChrisRosser
@ChrisRosser 2 жыл бұрын
It's safe to do either. ByRPM won't go above 48K if the ESC doesn't allow it.
@fpvfanatic
@fpvfanatic 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRosser Thank you for responding back to me. I just tried it but went back to 24 low and 48 high because the motors sounded rough with using by rpm.
@TERBANGFPV
@TERBANGFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Pwm max set to byrpm mean it will max at the maximum pwm available right? Means esc with 48k pwm max will only play at 24k min and 48k max.
@ChrisRosser
@ChrisRosser 2 жыл бұрын
It may not reach the max PWM because it depends on the RPM of the motor.
@TERBANGFPV
@TERBANGFPV 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRosser so which choise is the best. Cheap mamba with 128k capability vs more espensive esc that only runs 48k max?
@TERBANGFPV
@TERBANGFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Which one better? @chris rosser
@Fleche_FPV
@Fleche_FPV 2 жыл бұрын
What is the "DEMAG" influences on this results ?
@vonpwnz0r
@vonpwnz0r 2 жыл бұрын
You should try testing the responsiveness of breaking on a 1s whoop board. 24 vs 48 vs 96khz. The very low deadtime should make 96khz suck a lot less. It is my understanding that the very low deadtime
@Quad66
@Quad66 2 жыл бұрын
Joe Lucid JESC found 96khz was effectively no braking
@rishithakur1551
@rishithakur1551 4 ай бұрын
I have read the bluejay wiki startup power recommendations, but I just want to confirm that for a 4s 5" build the minimum startup power (boost), which defaults to 1025, is recommended to be set to 1010 and the maximum startup power (protection), which defaults to 1100, is recommended for 'safety' to be set to 1020 (which is quite a difference in value!)? What's your take on this @chrisrosser?
@steamvogue
@steamvogue 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris! actually BlueJay now has 0.16 version :) and my qieustion - will that also apply to cinewhoops and their 12XX - 14XX motors ?
@jenspenttila
@jenspenttila 2 жыл бұрын
Ask the same
@kolibrif8242
@kolibrif8242 2 жыл бұрын
I recently switched to Bluejay (0.16, 24kHz, 15°) on a 3inch 2s toothick with 1202.5 motors. Is working very well so far.
@steamvogue
@steamvogue 2 жыл бұрын
@@kolibrif8242 that’s interesting as for whoops 2,5 it’s highly recommended 48 /96 and medium high (21) . At least it was known it’s “recommended” .
@kolibrif8242
@kolibrif8242 2 жыл бұрын
@@steamvogue I am still testing and not sure if I will keep it (was working surprisingly well in a very windy situation). I started with JazzMaverick 16.73 (first 48kHz and later 24kHz, both with default timing) but struggled with my tune, in particular prop wash. I am not sure what an acceptable level of prop wash for such build is and therefore I am still testing and changing my setup (yes, it is still there). As flight time is less important to me, I was wondering if 24kHz will enable my motors to faster spin up and slow down.
@jenspenttila
@jenspenttila 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I will try 0.16 15deg 24khz on my tp3 1204 3s. Flight time is aprox 8 min on blhelim 48khz 450mah
@ChenDavidTso
@ChenDavidTso 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe ESC MOSFET also effect the result? These ESC may have different MOSFET on it and they have different performance, will it cause the result different.
@ChrisRosser
@ChrisRosser 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps so. I woudl have thought the 55A B32 ESC would have an advantage due to its higher rating but it doesn't appear so.
@userunknown2771
@userunknown2771 2 жыл бұрын
so, no matter what: on blheli S ESC's --> get Bluejay ?
@ChrisRosser
@ChrisRosser 2 жыл бұрын
I think so. The BlueJ project is very tightly integrated with the Betaflight team which I think is a huge benefit given how closely the ESC and FC work together in a quad.
@skyweaver3199
@skyweaver3199 2 жыл бұрын
I want to know what the ACTUAL difference is , in a fettec or kiss ESC. And a blheli ESC...... That would be a popular video! Awesome results.
@paulhope3401
@paulhope3401 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, just how good is the Fettecs full sine wave fw vs blheli_32.
@skyweaver3199
@skyweaver3199 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulhope3401 Exactly!
@ChrisRosser
@ChrisRosser 2 жыл бұрын
KISS ESC bought and on the way.
@paulhope3401
@paulhope3401 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRosser That is awesome.. Thank you! This will be really interesting. Are Kiss and Fettec using the exact same full Sine wave tech these days?
@ChrisRosser
@ChrisRosser 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulhope3401 I think so. The Fettec ESC I have bought advertises full sine wave control.
@xymaryai8283
@xymaryai8283 2 жыл бұрын
i think i'll stick to 32 bit escs, but i will jump ship to open source 32 bit as soon as they're available, just because they have more access to new features
@Pozzix65
@Pozzix65 2 жыл бұрын
great, why haven't u tested the latest version of Bluejay? i.e. 0.16?
@ChrisRosser
@ChrisRosser 2 жыл бұрын
The configurator couldn't program settings for 0.15 or 0.16 when I started my testing. I've done a regression test and 0.16 performed similarly to 0.14.
@DronoTron
@DronoTron 2 жыл бұрын
I beleive blheli_s esc prices will start to raise XD
@cpfpv6410
@cpfpv6410 11 ай бұрын
whatever is lighter and or cheaper... WINS!!!!
@shakeymikesadventures6793
@shakeymikesadventures6793 2 жыл бұрын
question, could we put Bluejay on a blheli_32 esc?
@ChrisRosser
@ChrisRosser 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately not, BL32 ESCs have locked bootloaders and the chipset is different.
@zachcarrizales5038
@zachcarrizales5038 2 жыл бұрын
What is the kv on the motor?
@ChrisRosser
@ChrisRosser 2 жыл бұрын
1800KV
@borisfm6541
@borisfm6541 2 жыл бұрын
Do these bluejay settings also work well with a moblite 7 or not.
@ChrisRosser
@ChrisRosser 2 жыл бұрын
Yes they should do well
@borisfm6541
@borisfm6541 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRosser Thank you
@chrisnoren777
@chrisnoren777 2 жыл бұрын
I flashed blue Jay and it messed up my vtx , no reception unless I hold the goggles right to the entenna. Iflight 5 inch
@reptethetetlen
@reptethetetlen 2 жыл бұрын
trick question! AM32
@paulhope3401
@paulhope3401 2 жыл бұрын
In a nutshell... If you are on the market for new ESC's then save some money and go with Jesc. If you are already invested in a set of Blheli32 then just rung what you brung... not a large enough difference to swap to slightly more responsive Jesc.
@BikeGuyFPV
@BikeGuyFPV Жыл бұрын
You mean go with BlueJay. JESC you have to pay for it to get the RPM filtering firmware, BlueJay on the other hand is free and has custom motor startup tones to work with as well.
@bigfuzzyarchon2007
@bigfuzzyarchon2007 2 жыл бұрын
Another setting I'd be curious about testing is sinusoidal vs trapezoid. And I wonder if pwm/timing makes a bigger difference on one vs the other
@slamonfpv
@slamonfpv 2 жыл бұрын
this may sound dumb so sorry in advance can i flash bluejay on blheli 32 esc ?. confused beginner
@ChrisRosser
@ChrisRosser 2 жыл бұрын
No I'm afraid you can't. Bluejay is only for BLHeli_S ESCs. BLHeli32 is just as good though.
@slamonfpv
@slamonfpv 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRosser thankyou so much Chris I was following your tuning guide for betaflight 4.3 and got a bit confused when it came to flashing bluejay to the esc .so do I skip that part and continue with tuning the kwad I have a radix 2 fc and tmotor v2 4 in 1 blheli 32 esc
@Quadtastrophe
@Quadtastrophe Жыл бұрын
Anybody fligh this settings on a racing build, they are recommendet for this ?
@jeramboo8511
@jeramboo8511 2 жыл бұрын
How about 7 inch settings ?
@TERBANGFPV
@TERBANGFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Yes iwant to know this too..
@ChrisRosser
@ChrisRosser 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't tested yet but both a 2207 and 2004 performed identically so I would expect a 2807 to also perform the same.
@Brian-S
@Brian-S 2 жыл бұрын
I'm interested in kiss now vs these
@TheMadmacs
@TheMadmacs 2 жыл бұрын
this kinda explains why i wasnt impressed with tekko 32 esc's, they ran best on dshot 600.
@richardheedfpv9626
@richardheedfpv9626 2 жыл бұрын
First. Top vid Chris. Cheers.
@wearemany73
@wearemany73 2 жыл бұрын
How do you know? You haven't watched it yet..😆
@richardheedfpv9626
@richardheedfpv9626 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Bolton. We're ahead of the rest.
@wearemany73
@wearemany73 2 жыл бұрын
@@richardheedfpv9626 I've heard that Lancashire is one hour ahead..🤔❤
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