BLIND TESTING Zero Torque Putters shows one BIG Difference!…

[@starks1974]

Great job Gaz! This is the most straight forward test regarding Zero balance putters and why the traditional putter may be dead, or very limited, in the future.

[@JoeCothern-lv8zx]

Gaz, another great video! Your doing test and reviews on this channel that no one else is doing. Thank you for going the extra mile to give us the most accurate information on clubs. Makes it much easier to know exactly what I want and what works best. God Bless you brother and keep them coming

[@RaidersGolf19]

This is a bloody brilliant idea for a video! Well done Gaz! You are a genius.

[@lexxwhite747]

Love the idea Gaz! Let's have more of this please. Nice to see the honest reactions of a lad who's not been in the game a while.

[@garymartingolf]

@@lexxwhite747 can you remember him? Rules with Jules 😆

[@lexxwhite747]

@garymartingolf Jesus that's right when you started the channel 😂 Talk about a throwback. Yeah I remember those vids

[@Pud56]

This was an inspired idea, someone who can play, but has been away, gives you a true blind test. His honesty is refreshing, he also had an open mind. You need him on the channel more often. This does suggest that zero torque works, mind you those of us that have had a video fitting knew that.

[@SecondTimothy224through26]

Really loved the premise and style of this video!

[@garrywhite468]

Honest test great work 👍

[@tommiethatcher7265]

Jules is back and it was great to see him. Great blind test with Jules and how good does Dan’s putter look

[@garymartingolf]

@@tommiethatcher7265 I’ve had to give it him back. Guttered lol 😆

[@tommiethatcher7265]

@ I would be gutted as well mate

[@yoric7200]

Great idea for a test.

[@garymartingolf]

Thanks

[@Wahgwarn]

This was excellent… 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 It appears that the zero torque putters do help make a solid natural strike. Even if someone is unaware of the modern tec helping. Great content Gaz 👍🏾

[@Cr1mson_Ghost]

actually laughed out loud when you out it in the revealer and you said “its coming out it has so much torque”

[@RaidersGolf19]

Two additional points… I also game an odyssey number nine black. Just in case people did not know, it is a very strong arc putter. So it is an interesting test to compare to the zero torque putters.👍 Secondly, I just came from Golf Town here in Canada and was tinkering with the Evenroll zero torque putter. I think I just fell in love with it. I tried to just let it swing itself, and I was making three out of four or more at every hole I practised with. I have never even considered an Evenrole putter before, but it is certainly another one to put into this mix and think about for future. The cost was ridiculous, but maybe I’ll wait a year or two and sell off one or two putters that I already have. And additionally, see if that putter comes down a little bit in price?

[@garymartingolf]

How much was it? I thought it was a good test to compare, it gave us a greater change for him to feel something between torque and no torque.

[@RaidersGolf19]

@ the Evenroll was $620 Canadian (+13% tax) … making it $700.60 out of pocket. But I guess that is $10 cheaper than the Scotty Cameron that I have been eyeing. 😜🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️ (sigh)

[@DanB-]

Great idea for a video, and I actually think he did feel the difference but just didnt know how to articulate it, he continuously kept saying the lab felt better and the key word "easier" to use and line up. The last length putt the lab destroyed his putter and the best part was he didnt know why, or if the lab was cheap crap, or a £5000 putter made by nasa! My main issue with lab is I think the custom price is way too much for basic custom options, like £100 more just because you need a 70 degree instead if 69.... and when you consider they tell you everyone is handmade then just make it a different lie and dont charge more for that! Colour, shaft I get but lie angle and alignment options should be free.

[@garymartingolf]

Great points! You’re probably right actually, after 11 years, I definitely chucked him in the deep end a-bit. I do agree, and I also think that once they start selling them in big scale like the odysseys, the prices will come down due to their costs lowering 👌🏼

[@DanB-]

@@garymartingolf Yeah 100%, Would be good to see a player like your mate use the lab and go round the putting green each hole to hole say clockwise, then do the same but in reverse so he doesnt "learn" the green with his own and see what he scores. I think L.A.B should give you a discount code to while you are doing so much work with zero torque and their product😉

[@stephendibari5010]

Great video, proof is in the last portion without the ring. he holed one and the other 2 were basically tap-in's. My Custom fit DF3 wont be leaving my bag !!!!

[@brianmurray4199]

Gaz is now the guru of Temu golf and zero torque putters

[@philm6418]

A thought provoking test Gary. Can I ask if you have any intention to review / test the LAB golf broomstick putters. I for one would be very interested to hear your thoughts and opinions.

[@royclose946]

Well done gaz 😊

[@ronchappell216]

This was really interesting. I'm debating getting a better putter. I like the zero torque notion, but I'll never drop the $$ for a Lab. I've spent some time putting Lab vs. Odyssey 7 sq to sq. I believe the theory but I don't really like putting it, it just doesn't seem to click for me any better than other nice feeling putters. And watching the demonstration here I have a hard time looking at the difference between all of his putts and thinking I'm not sure how many hundreds of dollars I'd be willing to spend for the difference I see. With the zero torque putters I really don't understand or like (so far) the forward lean of the shaft. Still, I highly suspect I'll have an Odyssey 7 as a birthday present this summer. Thanks for the interesting video!

[@garylucas7050]

Poor lad was like a lamb to the slaughter 😂

[@garymartingolf]

That’s a blind test 😃

[@garylucas7050]

@ I got a DF3 white Accro shaft white 2.0press grip cappuccino standard head, 66degree lie angle , 33.5 inch , It rolled great from the start however it took me at least 6-8 rounds to get used to it . After the first couple of rounds I could have tossed it in the bin but the price of it made me persevere and I’m glad I did as I have been using it for about 4 months now and it’s the best putter I’ve owned with amazing results . I’ve seen from your videos when you first got the lab it didn’t happen for you and I’m sure you were close to ditching it . But over recent videos I’ve seen your putting with the lab been off the charts . The lab is definitely a slow burner but worth sticking with it …happy golfing Gazza

[@kolchak357]

When I tested these style of putters I found they really shined on 15 feet and in. Long putts where you need a bigger swing can easily go a bit offline with any putter in my experience. I liked the DF3 the best, but I can’t spend that much on a club. The new Odyssey putters had a great feel with that insert, but I thought the DF3 easier to line up. I found the forward press on the Odyssey a bit awkward for me. ⛳️

[@guyr7351]

Good video Gaz and I’m believing the LAB zero torque. Price is an issue £500 if it eradicates the couple of 3 putts I make and I sink a couple of 10-20 footers then have to ask what price posing 4-5 shots a round. Having said that £400 or was it $ for a shaft on a putter, that is insane. At the pace of a typical stroke cannot think there is much going on that needs a special Carbon shaft.

[@garymartingolf]

If you play on slow greens, my advice would be to get the OZ.1 and then the putter would perform great with a standard shaft at stock price. I can only be honest about how I feel, I love the DF3, but with the standard shaft, I just don’t get feel for the longer putts. I’m not saying upgrade shaft though, my advice is the consider the Oz.1.

[@guyr7351]

@ that’s the one I’d go for as the looks of the DF3 are too much. The metal insert in the OZ1i I think also has the ball coming off a bit faster

[@FreedomGolfClub]

Im also STILL using the same #9 shape putter xD put new grips in last week!

[@rodwhite9769]

Great experiment! Seamed like the Lab had the better results in all of the test.

[@garymartingolf]

Yeah. I was really hoping he felt more, as I felt like I did, but that's the blind test! Maybe a good test for all golfers to try. Thanks

[@-Thunder]

@@garymartingolfLAB was going 3rd so it had a benefit. The distance off the toe was about the same. The feeling is very different. I’ve done this exact test against an 8802 blade. I can make 10 foot putts off the toe all day. Test it.

[@gregferrence2340]

Yes, needed to change up the order. Too much recency bias.

[@howardshorr2979]

I have many questions about 0 torque if you take a toe hang putter pinch the top of the grip with your fingers and let it swing naturally back and fourth it swings straight forwards and back stays square ? Can you explain would love to have this conversation

[@carlr2837]

I can understand if people think $500 is too much to pay for a putter. However, consider that you use your putter about twice as many times per round as you do your driver, so you should be willing to spend as much for a putter as a Driver. If your budget is $499 for your whole set, it would be crazy to spend it all for a putter, or to spend it all for a driver. But, if your budgeting to buy a $500 driver, a $500 putter is worth considering as well.

[@johnoxley1946]

Just one problem with the video Gaz, why didn't your mate get to use the Axis when trying to sink the putts and why didn't you put it in the revealer. By omitting to do that you give the impression that you were steering your mate to the DF3. Personally I would have liked to see tho Axis in the revealer to see exatly what the torque was. Don't get me wrong, I've just purchased a DF3 which is the first putter I've purchased since starting to play golf back in 1973.

[@garymartingolf]

I’ve didn’t put the axis in the revealer because I’ve done a full axis review where Ive already put it in the revealer. In hindsight I should of let him have 3 at the end with yeh axis, but I didn’t think it was about choosing between the df3 and axis, I just thought it was zero torque vs torque. Wow, I bet that was some change. You’d be a great person to film with, as I’m sure golfs changes a lot.

[@johnoxley1946]

@@garymartingolf the only putter I've used since 1973 is a PGF Optima MK1 blade putter and putting has always been one of the weak parts of my game. So looking forward to using my DF3 for the first time next Tuesday. To film me putting you'd need to travel to Chiang Mai Thailand.

[@robertdevito9677]

I use the Scotty phantom and tried two rounds with the oddesy jailbreak. I putted better with the Scotty

[@FullContactDrummer]

I don't think he's hitting the zero torque putters $450 better than his old gamer. That is what is interesting to me.

[@garymartingolf]

That’s why we do the videos, it helps people make more calculated decisions. I’d rather have zero torque than not, but the cost is the only question.

[@roger3958]

@@FullContactDrummer really??? His dispersion on the long putts was tiny w the lab, and he was money on the shorter putts. Did we watch the same vid?

[@FullContactDrummer]

@ It was better, but not sure it was $450 better.

[@FullContactDrummer]

@ That's true. I've used a zero torque and it felt great.

[@roger3958]

Yeah if you’re talking $450 better, then I’m not sure. I suppose it depends heavily how much disposable income one has, and what cutting 1-3 strokes is worth to someone.

[@andymason8834]

So . If you don't practice with the LAB putter you're a better putter with that than your putter if you don't practice 🤔🤔🤔. Because to me it's all about practicing and us amateurs don't do a lot of that ,that's why we're amateurs

[@carlr2837]

I don't practice enough, and I have switched to a LAB, and I think you have it exactly right. If you practice a lot, you can get used to any putter. You learn how it torques, and you learn to develop a putting stroke that counteracts the torque such that you get your hands back to square at impact. With zero torque, the club stays square on it's own, so there is nothing special to learn. You just stroke it naturally and it goes where you point it. That doesn't mean you will make every putt. You still have to get the speed right, you still have to read the green right, and you still have to square up and aim properly, none of which are my strong points. It does take away the pushes and pulls that happen if you don't get back to square, which will benefit those of us that don't practice enough.

[@Floki6753]

i dont get it, every premium putter here in norway is more expencive than if i would order a lab. all odyssey Ai one milled for example are more expensive than lab, and lets not even start about the scottys..so why are ppl crying about Lab prices? bc i bet they are better to

[@garymartingolf]

That’s crazy! How much are Scotties? They same as Lab in the UK , both £449

[@PeterMolyneux-l2y]

At Those prices I'll stick with my Odyssey 10! We uad a young assistant pro called Natalie that came to us from Rotherham. I believe she went back there. Is she still there?

[@garymartingolf]

She’s not, she’s still a pro, but she’s gone onto other things. Tournament organiser I think ⛳️

[@PeterMolyneux-l2y]

@@garymartingolf Thanks Gaz. She was a pretty useful player if I remember rightly.

[@redgreen01]

With all the views your getting does your bud get a free Lab putter?

[@paulmcgee1867]

Low gateoo, it’s not

[@richesquibel3276]

Unwatchable sorry...😢

[@garymartingolf]

Go no, what’s wrong?

[@roger3958]

@@garymartingolf I don’t know what that guys talking about but I didn’t get any ads today in the first five minutes so I say this is very watchable!

[@roger3958]

I haven’t watched it all yet but his dispersion on the lab long putts is best of the 3!!!

[@garymartingolf]

@@roger3958 maybe it’s our accent.

[@RaidersGolf19]

This is a bloody brilliant idea for a video! Well done Gaz! You are a genius.