Let's Make Soft Jaws

  Рет қаралды 105,497

Blondihacks

Blondihacks

4 жыл бұрын

This episode on Blondihacks.com, I'm making some snazzy new soft jaws for my vise! Exclusive videos, drawings, models & plans available on Patreon!
/ quinndunki
Here are links for many of the tools that you see me using:
(I earn small commissions on these links)
• Chamfering Tool : amzn.to/2IJsAUs
• Deburring Tool : amzn.to/2ItUtRb
• Anchor Lube : amzn.to/2H9X6oQ
• Boeshield T-9 : amzn.to/2TCE0wB
• Knurling Tool : amzn.to/2FblXb1
• Tapered Reamer : amzn.to/2Gn0b3G
• Nicholson files : amzn.to/2VcHkls
• Nicholson needle files : amzn.to/2GZWcMl
• Machinist’s scale : amzn.to/2Zk6oVj
• Mixed metric/imperial dial caliper : amzn.to/2KKARYY
• Mitutoyo dial caliper : amzn.to/2IMIxJE
• Mitutoyo micrometer set : amzn.to/2GtICPx
• Mitutoyo depth micrometer : amzn.to/33M8aSH
• Mitutoyo edge finder : amzn.to/2G36omq
• Mitutoyo dial indicator : amzn.to/2H09gBr
• Mitutoyo dial test indicator : amzn.to/2E5lRQw
• Mitutoyo snap gauge set : amzn.to/2Z6houn
• Fowler dial bore gauge : amzn.to/2KQJNf2
• Fowler inside micrometer : amzn.to/2TVm7Jo
• Starrett automatic center punch : amzn.to/2DCI7C9
• Brownell’s Oxpho Blue : amzn.to/2YhZTmR
• JAX Metal Blackener : amzn.to/2MVe8wj
• 1-2-3 Blocks : amzn.to/2EvAsGq
• Dormer center drills : amzn.to/2X7U6ij
• 6” Divider : amzn.to/2GTncM3
• NOGA arm with magnetic base : amzn.to/2U2bGTI
• Collet Block set : amzn.to/2UkF1vZ
• DeWalt drill and driver kit : amzn.to/2U2bGTI
• DeWalt portable band saw : amzn.to/2U4Mhsw
• DeWalt band saw blades : amzn.to/2H2J4X0
• Dykem Layout fluid : amzn.to/2U7KQts
• High Speed Steel parting blade : amzn.to/2YcdYBv
• High Speed Steel blade holder : amzn.to/2JgO0IK
• High Speed Steel tool blanks : amzn.to/2H1qoqr
• Grizzly Pre-ground tool bits : amzn.to/2H4yr5z
• AXA tool holders : amzn.to/2V1gOHl
• Quick Change Toolpost : amzn.to/2Ea8EWR
• Norton oil stone kit : amzn.to/2EbLEH3
• Norton small sharpening stone: amzn.to/2PQwex9
• Tap Magic cutting oil : amzn.to/2U68wOJ
• WD-40 w/ smart straw : amzn.to/2GYV8rY
• End mills : amzn.to/2U76Vsf
• Milling machine starter pack : amzn.to/2tA2M4e
• Super 77 Spray Glue : amzn.to/2YScxZl
• Metal Lathe For Home Machinists: amzn.to/2LRouNb
• Loctite 603 : amzn.to/2EYsPbi
• Forceps : amzn.to/2Ww5dFT
• Mill Parallels : amzn.to/2lfW82i
• GearWrench ratcheting tap & die set : amzn.to/2lMwZfV
• Evaporust : amzn.to/36NSkII
Want more content like this? Try these places:
Blondihacks on Instagram : / blondihacks
Blondihacks on Twitter : / quinndunki
Blondihacks on Patreon : / quinndunki
As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.

Пікірлер: 393
@DavesRocketShop
@DavesRocketShop 4 жыл бұрын
Chinook, Timbits, Toque?!? That's the funniest line I've heard in a while! I'm also happy you show "when things go wrong" More people need to be willing to mess things up before they get good results.
@Blondihacks
@Blondihacks 4 жыл бұрын
Turns out that shirt is the Canadian Table Of Elements.
@DavesRocketShop
@DavesRocketShop 4 жыл бұрын
@@Blondihacks Turns out Timbits have a large number of known isotopes
@nickandersonco
@nickandersonco 4 жыл бұрын
@@DavesRocketShop I rushed down to the comments to say the same thing, but you beat me to it!
@Blondihacks
@Blondihacks 4 жыл бұрын
@@DavesRocketShop 🤣😂 That explains why they're so reactive with my mouth
@stanervin6108
@stanervin6108 4 жыл бұрын
@@Blondihacks Thinking outside the box: You could've carefully cold formed the cu, annealing during the process to avoid work hardened brittleness. The other option would be to print the jaws in plastic 1% undersized to use as a pattern for a greensand casting, minimizing the later machining loss. See Tubelcain (Lyle) and Roy of Christ Centered Iron for specifics about methods.
@ThisOldTony
@ThisOldTony 4 жыл бұрын
Me and copper no longer talk. Enjoyed the video but sorry for your troubles. You probably get this alot but: nice jaws!
@Blondihacks
@Blondihacks 4 жыл бұрын
😬
@poppabear3664
@poppabear3664 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry to interject on Quinns channel but are you ok ToT, haven’t seen much content from you lately and you didn’t sound too well in your last few vid’s. Love the channel Quinn, shame about the hassle you had with the copper jaws but great result in the end.
@gilb6982
@gilb6982 4 жыл бұрын
This Old Tony Liar ! you where looking at the periodic table ! Lol !
@mpetersen6
@mpetersen6 3 жыл бұрын
One old time coolant for copper is milk. Whether its buttermilk, whole, 2%, skim or chocolate is up in the air.
@SodiumInteresting
@SodiumInteresting 2 жыл бұрын
@@poppabear3664 tot will be back
@stevemurray6400
@stevemurray6400 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great vid. Sorry about your mill. I work in a commercial custom cabinet shop. We have a saying: It's not a mistake until you can't hide it. Cheers
@StraightThread
@StraightThread 4 жыл бұрын
That's a great saying. I'll have to remember it. : D
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 4 жыл бұрын
Just remember, your mistakes are a chance for all of us to learn something, barring those that already know everything. Very nicely done.
@ninthm00n
@ninthm00n 4 жыл бұрын
I hereby decree that the antidote to a rainy crappy Saturday is a new episode of Blondihacks. All in favor say aye.
@prodoverjeff2876
@prodoverjeff2876 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, Joey, I put in 8 hrs OT at my job and still enjoy Blondihacks after I got home.
@moehoward01
@moehoward01 4 жыл бұрын
Aye!
@moehoward01
@moehoward01 4 жыл бұрын
Except it's Sunday. And sunny.
@somedude7633
@somedude7633 4 жыл бұрын
Eye
@ddesilva61
@ddesilva61 4 жыл бұрын
If you have a lathe in your garage...yes lol
@gregorycarroll8734
@gregorycarroll8734 4 жыл бұрын
I think showing your mistakes and explaining your thought processes provide the best instruction for us home gamers. Thank you.
@andrewdolinskiatcarpathian
@andrewdolinskiatcarpathian 4 жыл бұрын
Having recently struggled to turn a taper on a rod of copper, with the copper grabbing at every opportunity, I am definitely steering clear of any thoughts of milling it. Copper might look beautiful, but has evil in its heart! Thank you for such an informative video.
@EngineersWorkshop
@EngineersWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Another good loctite product for your magnets would be 574 flange gasket sealant. It's Orange, and squeezes down next to nothing, but the residual sealant around the edges of the magnet hardens almost into a plastic like epoxy. Without heat, the only way to get your magnets out would be to destroy them
@Blondihacks
@Blondihacks 4 жыл бұрын
Cool- I haven’t tried 574. I’ll give it a go!
@nbolin7803
@nbolin7803 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome job in the end. Glad your mill is back up and working. Another great and informative video! I’m secretly hoping for an AvE style tear down and rebuild video for how you got it running again...
@Blondihacks
@Blondihacks 4 жыл бұрын
Next week! 😁
@thomashverring9484
@thomashverring9484 3 жыл бұрын
I bought some cheap aluminum soft jaws with rubber on the grabbing side and magnets to hold then in place. I use the magnets to store them on a metal drawer close by my vise. They are brilliant! I use them all the time.
@anthonyb4321
@anthonyb4321 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t comment ever… I watch a lot of your videos bc I am new to home machining. Not machining but home machining. And that joke about you taking off your shirt made my day. Keep the jokes up, it makes your content so much better than many machining Channels, most of which are very dry
@Mirandorl
@Mirandorl 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for putting your mistakes in. Watching machining videos with all the warts removed plus carefree "I decided to do this genius thing because I'm a genius and I totally skyped with AvE once" voiceover creates the same kind of anxiety in machinists (ok I mean me) as teenagers get from seeing images on influencer instagram pages with their photoshopped abs, botoxed bits, massivo biceps and perfect everything-jobs.
@hmw-ms3tx
@hmw-ms3tx 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Quinn. I've had days in my shop that went so bad I gave up machining for the day and came back the next day. I've learned over the years (especially when doing a large part and you're maybe 30 or 40 hours in) it is not worth scrapping the part when the day goes south. Those awful days make the perfect (and very rare) days that much sweeter. Keep up the good work. Ken
@bigdodgeaus
@bigdodgeaus 4 жыл бұрын
I love someone who not only admits their mistakes but shows you how they were made. Thanks Quinn
@mikenixon4637
@mikenixon4637 4 жыл бұрын
Loved the transparency and stick-to-it-iveness on this one!
@rogerpetrella5993
@rogerpetrella5993 4 жыл бұрын
Here's how I made copper soft jaws for my vise. I took a piece of 3/32" copper sheet a bit wider than the vise jaws and about 3" long and tightened the jaws on it. Then I took a hammer and pounded the extra back over the top of the vise. I repeated this for the opposite side. I've had these for over 20 years and they still work fine. Definitely not as pretty as yours but certainly less costly and without the excitement you had building yours. Keep up with the great videos!
@markrainford1219
@markrainford1219 4 жыл бұрын
Did similar last week, but used 22mm pipe offcuts. Slit them down one side, opened them up and did what you did. Didn't actually cost me a penny.
@GunFunZS
@GunFunZS 4 жыл бұрын
I made mine out of aluminum angle iron. Basically same method though they're conformed around the top.
@Dancer148
@Dancer148 3 жыл бұрын
@@GunFunZS what's better, Alu or Cu?
@GunFunZS
@GunFunZS 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dancer148 copper feels more premium. I used aluminum because it was cheap quick and easy. It does the job. I had a piece of 1.5 in by 1.5 in aluminum angle and clipped it off the same length as the width of the jaws. Clamp the jaws closed and then use a hammer and a piece of steel to form the rest of it around the shape of the jaw. Now you have a form fitting soft jaw.
@Dancer148
@Dancer148 3 жыл бұрын
@@GunFunZS thanks, sounds good, I will try your method.
@000gjb
@000gjb 4 жыл бұрын
One great source of materials such as copper is the scrap merchants. You just have to be lucky. One of my visits, they had an electrical switchboard which they were scrapping. I managed to grad 75 mm x 8 mm lengths for scrap value.
@ddistrbd1
@ddistrbd1 3 жыл бұрын
Subscribed, that was great advice near the end," think twice using Copper for soft jaws" , I work with copper often (mostly copper sheets) but when it's in shape of rods, I only drill or braze , totally hate machining copper, your video showed all the challenges one will face machining this material, thank you for showing all the good with the bad.
@MrStrangegoo
@MrStrangegoo 4 жыл бұрын
They are beautiful soft jaws. If I may make a suggestion. When I was working when we needed soft jaws we used a 0.25" thick X 1.5" wide bar and just folded two pieces to fit. It saved a lot of copper.
@AJR2208
@AJR2208 4 жыл бұрын
Nice job there Quinn! Thanks for sharing your lessons - we are not here long enough to make all of the mistakes on our own, so it helps to learn and share with others. I like that you explain the "Why's" along with the "How's", it makes for really good videos......
@StraightThread
@StraightThread 4 жыл бұрын
I ogled the copper bars for jaws quite some time ago when Tom Lipton showed them on his vises, but never got around to ordering a bar. I thought, sooner or later on one of my daily walks through the neighborhood, I'll find a piece of copper bar in the street inadvertently dropped off the electrical utility repair truck. I have found several drywall screws, a couple of 10-24 nylock nuts, a quarter, a dime, three nickels and several copper pennies, but no copper bars. In the meantime, I took a piece of 3/4" copper water pipe, split it open and first hammered it flat, then into an "L" shaped around said vise jaws. Yeah, it falls off to the floor about half the time, but so far it suffices for a make-do no more often than I need it. Just a thought that occurred to me, one might use 1/4" x 3/8" copper bar to form the pocket for the jaw and then solder the 1/4" surface to the 1" (or thinner) copper bar forming the perfect pocket. Copper mills like a demon from hell, but it does solder nicely. Much less waste, too. Another observation: You had to take your shirt off to examine the Periodic Elements Table chart. I know it can be nippy up there in Canada, so wouldn't it be more practical to have the PE Table printed upside down on the shirt so you could just look down an read it without removing your shirt? Come to think of it, why not have a decimal equivalents chart or a Metric to Imperial chart printed upside down on a tee-shirt? :D
@JEFF-ft6qm
@JEFF-ft6qm 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Quinn. I only became aware of your channel a couple of weeks ago and I've been binge watching - particularly the lathe series. What a pleasure. I am very much an amateur in the machine shop. I was very fortunate that when an "old feller" at the end of my road moved out just over 20 years ago he offered me his lathe, bench press and misc tooling for a price that I could not refuse. I guess that the retirement home he was moving to had a no lathes policy alongside the more usual pet restrictions. Anyway, read a couple of books and became quite good at taking chunks of scrap and making them into smaller pieces of scrap. Even managed a couple of steam engines / hot air engines over the years. Just a thought about holding the magnets in place when loctiting. Magnets or even a piece of steel on the face of the jaws so the magnets would pull themselves into the holes. Anyway, as I said, really enjoying your videos. Jeff (England-land)
@scottwillis5434
@scottwillis5434 3 жыл бұрын
If a retirement home has a no lathes policy, I'm not going...
@MikeMcDonoughUS
@MikeMcDonoughUS 4 жыл бұрын
When it rains it pours! Glad to see you pushed through the challenges and finished the project.
@BillySugger1965
@BillySugger1965 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my, I could really feel for you through all those mishaps. Thank goodness you’re resilient. And you have a lovely pair of copper soft-jaws to show for all the pain.
@drmodestoesq
@drmodestoesq 4 жыл бұрын
There's a line in the James Caan film Thief. They're looking at the blueprints of an expensive safe they hope to open. I seem to remember a character saying, "And there's a layer of copper to bind the drills."
@MrRShoaf
@MrRShoaf 4 жыл бұрын
The copper layer in a laminated safe is not there to "bind the drill", that is the job of the hard plate layer. The copper layer is to coduct the heat away to make a torch attack more difficult. It is also handy to conduct the heat to melt the lead to spray the safe cracker with molten lead.
@christophelabedan5696
@christophelabedan5696 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent job and so refreshing having somebody describing mistakes... genuine stuff and still very professional 👍
@danmatson8685
@danmatson8685 Жыл бұрын
When I saw the problem you were having with the hard screw to hold in the magnets, I thought of a box of small factory made copper nuts & bolts that I have on a shelf, along with a slightly larger box of plastic/nylon ones. Both could work I thought, but if I didn't have any could I use a die on a piece of copper wire or brass welding rod, form a head? When she said Locktite 603 .... Brilliant
@tango-bravo
@tango-bravo 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful job, thanks for sharing. Glad you stuck with it! Planning to make a set of brass jaws for a small jewelers vice I have laying around. 👍
@bhoiiii
@bhoiiii 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve made some truly inappropriate comments about TOT’s hands, but hate you have to put up folks making comments about you. Love the channel.
@Blondihacks
@Blondihacks 4 жыл бұрын
You should see the stuff I delete. The angry men of the internet are cruel.
@dantanner785
@dantanner785 4 жыл бұрын
Blondihacks some channels are set up so the owner has to approve comments first. Maybe consider going that route?
@scottwillis5434
@scottwillis5434 3 жыл бұрын
Given the expense of copper, some ideas: 1. Bend from thinner sheet 2. Epoxy or flathead-screw sheet to an underlying aluminum piece 3. Fabricate by (as others suggested) soldering or brazing 4. Possibly: electroplate copper onto an aluminum (or steel?) underlying piece. Not sure what to expect for adhesion, however some prep such as sanding or sandblasting first should give a mechanical bond. I see there are videos on doing this plating.
@JohnFleshman
@JohnFleshman 2 жыл бұрын
I made a set of soft jaws for my 6 inch vice out of old nylon cutting board. Magnets in the set to keep em in place. Ive had them three years now and never had an issue with them.
@leec2106
@leec2106 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Quinn, I really enjoy your videos. For my soft jaws on my bench vise I got aluminum angle 2 by 1 inch. I cut it off 2 inches longer than the top of the vise jaws, hack sawed off the 1 inch, 1 inch from each end. I then bent the 2 inch side back closing off the ends. I drilled several small holes so the epoxy would actually stick to the aluminum and stay attached. I used epoxy to glue my magnets to top 1inch rail. I filled it all from end to end at the height of the magnets. That was a lot cheaper than your copper was. $60 in chips is a lot to waste. I have just drew up my own low profile table clamps for my 3018 CNC router. The 3018 is about the size of your vise on your mill, 300 by 180 by 45 mm. I think I will get them made up this weekend. Time will tell on them. Keep up the great work and I will keep watching. Lee
@bostedtap8399
@bostedtap8399 4 жыл бұрын
Great development in techniques and project, your baptism in Copper is of a high order 🙏. Copper is reactive with many materials, drilling or milling with uncoated tools is a pain, it also has a crazy coefficient of thermal expansion, gripping it in a vice and getting it warm creates very large loads. I know that using a toolmakers or grinding vice on a surface grinder with a copper block caused the vice to crack across the base 😰😰. Excellent vlog, many thanks for sharing.
@leerogers6423
@leerogers6423 4 жыл бұрын
Good to see the need for a light touch with the mini-mill demonstrated. Plenty of guys on Tube showing us how the Bridgeport can chew metal but that's not the real world for the majority of us. All your tips on the small lathe and mill apply equally to my ancient British machines , I learn something every time . I do hope that you didn't throw that swarf away ( the proper name for chips). got to be handy for something.
@KarlBunker
@KarlBunker 4 жыл бұрын
I never laughed so hard at the periodic table before.
@MachiningandMicrowaves
@MachiningandMicrowaves 4 жыл бұрын
C111 Sulphur copper is a nice, free-machining, short-chipping alloy which is merely *ludicrously*, rather than ruinously, expensive. It cuts almost as well as Tellurium copper. I've machined 55kg of that in the last year or two and only broken one M3 threadforming tap and one 2.75mm drill in over 500 holes. I only messed up the milling one of the 70-odd parts, but I used the remains to make some copper softjaws for my 4 inch vice. Win!
@ragnarhairybreeks
@ragnarhairybreeks 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, Appreciate and enjoy your vids, thanks. I’ve always wondered why the love for copper soft jaws. They look great , and are a bit harder than aluminum, but the cost... I make and use aluminum soft jaws in the tormach, custom cut to hold parts. They are disposable and inexpensive. I also use aluminum soft jaws in the shop vises, and I don’t have to be too worried about messing them up. The aluminum holds fine, both in the slip on form, and the complete jaw replacement type. But I know that’s a different set of needs than a home workshop. And I guess, to be honest, if a bit of suitable copper fell on my lap, I’d say ouch! Then make some soft jaws. :-) Cheers Alistair
@staxter6
@staxter6 4 жыл бұрын
Sweet, TOT sent me to you. So glad he did...tappy tap tap? Subbed.
@howesinc
@howesinc 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, that was indeed a journey. Thanks for sharing!
@leeackerson2579
@leeackerson2579 4 жыл бұрын
Copper, the devil metal, darn near sank my startup company. I was making 3/4" thick buss bars of copper and had to drill and tap them through the full thickness. I pulled my hair out for about a week ruining buss bars and breaking taps until an old timer told me to use thread forming rather than thread cutting the 8-32 hole. Holy cow, I could us a Tapping head on the mill and thread the holes with the thread former tool faster than I could drill the hole, and the thread forming tap never wore out either. Glad you were able to salvage the jaws, nice job.
@billbrennan8405
@billbrennan8405 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Quinn I am the king of making mistakes on the best of planned projects but learning from them and avoid making them again is the learning process. Always love your videos with their fast action with explanation over the process. Thank You BB
@craigtate5930
@craigtate5930 4 жыл бұрын
Love the work you did here. I know the feeling of having your mill down for too long. I recently did some repairs to my ancient Cochrane bly and had to wait forever to get a missing part. I think I enjoy running the mill the most out of the machine tools, not sure why
@waydegutman7339
@waydegutman7339 2 жыл бұрын
Phooie ! Thought you were going to make soft jaws for your milling vise ! In one of the shops I worked in, we made specialized soft jaws out of tooling plate for our CNC set up. The soft jaws over hung the milling vise 1” each size, making the 6” milling vise into a 8” one.
@larshansen7862
@larshansen7862 2 жыл бұрын
So brave. Could never stop loving you.
@brianwarburton4482
@brianwarburton4482 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for including your mistakes, I like your honesty. Also, it is a good way of teaching. Why learn from your own mistakes when you can learn from someone else's?
@qcnck2776
@qcnck2776 4 жыл бұрын
Tough challenge but beautiful result! Looking forward to the video on the mill saga.
@mikenixon4637
@mikenixon4637 4 жыл бұрын
Haven't had that much trouble with copper. Have made a few small things such as electric motor brush holders. But brass... it's well known it can pull the tool into itself, including the cross slide.
@bradthayer6782
@bradthayer6782 4 жыл бұрын
I work with brass and copper a lot and feel your pain. Great job pressing on to the finish. And I’m glad you keep your shirt on, mostly.
@drapakdave
@drapakdave 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video, Quinn! I feel I have learned a lot from your misadventures. I am looking forward to seeing your electronics recovery video: I sense that my motor controller board is on its way out on my mill.
@03redrubi
@03redrubi 3 жыл бұрын
Nice project! I would've rolled with brass. Less bling bling = No Drama. Great Job!!!
@flyingby3703
@flyingby3703 4 жыл бұрын
So I don’t know if you will read this, or if it will ever be of any use to you, but if you ever need 3d-printed soft jaws again you should print them so that the printing layers will be compressed by the vise when tightened. That will be a lot stronger. And you might want to give PETG a try, it’s a bit tougher than pla.
@marko99butter
@marko99butter 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve got permanent copper jaws (ala Tom Lipton) on mine. Love them.
@AlanShortySwanson
@AlanShortySwanson 4 жыл бұрын
"Hello, Internet." HI QUINN!
@hefy2jefy
@hefy2jefy 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing that you were able to include every single thing that could go wrong into one video, quite an achievement and very entertaining!
@TheArsonsmith4242
@TheArsonsmith4242 4 жыл бұрын
i recently learned the joys of machining copper. felt like trying to cut chewed bubble gum by stepping on it on the sidewalk. I ended up saving my chips, figured at some point I'm going to make a forge that I might be able to melt them down and cast them into something fun.
@kensherwin4544
@kensherwin4544 4 жыл бұрын
Mix them with resin, cast them into some shape, and turn them on a wood lathe.
@ChristopherTate
@ChristopherTate 4 жыл бұрын
The end of that very first portaband cut, with the bar still attached but hanging down from a gummy last little bit? 100% FORESHADOWING.
@Blondihacks
@Blondihacks 4 жыл бұрын
SO FORESHADOWING. 😁
@alexvonbosse5090
@alexvonbosse5090 4 жыл бұрын
Valuable information regarding machining copper! I knew copper is expensive, but didn't know how expensive it really is! I better start saving my pennies (dollars) so I have the funds for an upcoming project. Thanks for sharing!
@robertperly3783
@robertperly3783 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Quinn, just discovered your channel- your videos are great and I’m learning a lot. Your quite the awesome chic ! Thanks
@PorchPotatoMike
@PorchPotatoMike 4 жыл бұрын
That copper really is a very pretty metal.
@johnblack9038
@johnblack9038 4 жыл бұрын
So a thought on the rivet technique. Copper is soft enough you don't have to peen the rivet, you can smash it. A simple shop clamp will likely do the job. Through drill the hole for the rivet, then give a slight countersink, or flare in the face of the jaw, for it to spread and grab on that side if you are going to lap it smooth after smashing it. Also I'd recommend doing a couple of practice parts. The trickiest part is getting your 'rivet' cut to the right length, too short and it doesn't fill the hole enough to hold, too long and it folds over. I've done hundreds of rivets this way. It's not the correct way to go about it, but when you are given a job to do but not allowed to have the proper tools, and god help you if you leave a hammer mark, it's what happens.
@Blondihacks
@Blondihacks 4 жыл бұрын
That's a great point! I'll consider something like that in the future.
@g.tucker8682
@g.tucker8682 4 жыл бұрын
You're describing "rivet squeezing," often used in the aerospace and automotive industries. And a good choice here.
@johnblack9038
@johnblack9038 4 жыл бұрын
@@g.tucker8682 I guess you would call it aerospace. We did this to rivet captive fasteners on panels on cruise missiles. I'd have given my eye teeth for a proper rivet gun and buck plate, but for some reason the powers that be refused to order us one.Their excuse was we weren't metals tech, and technically not supposed to be doing that job. realistically getting a sheet metal guy out from the flightline took an act of congress and a couple weeks of work. So we adapted.
@bobfinning8587
@bobfinning8587 Жыл бұрын
The two flute mill you refer to, in my time in the workshop in the uk we refer to them as “slot drills”.
@richardgregory6653
@richardgregory6653 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Quinn, Gathering all these uhoh's is part of getting experience. As I tell my kids and grandkids when they think I know everything "how do you get 20 yrs of experience? Work 20 yrs and make a lot of uhohs"
@-Mr.Fusion-
@-Mr.Fusion- 4 жыл бұрын
Second I saw those magnets at the beginning I thought, I bet they break. I had the exact same issue when doing a wood work project with the very same magnets 😂
@toms4123
@toms4123 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Quinn, you are a great instructor
@demandred1957
@demandred1957 4 жыл бұрын
I work for a switchgear rebuilding shop. I machine copper from 1/16 (.0625) to 3" (3.000) thick all day every day. Use carbide mills, and decent HSS drills AND COOLANT!! and you wont have a bit of trouble with it.
@TokenRing1024
@TokenRing1024 4 жыл бұрын
Love your sense of humor !
@clintchapman4319
@clintchapman4319 4 жыл бұрын
Eh well.. Some days in the shop are diamonds, and some of them are plain old rocks. You got it done and that's what matters.
@paulp96275
@paulp96275 3 жыл бұрын
When you walk in the cow fields without shoes it sometimes comes up between your toes ,thanks for a great 👍 learning curve even if it cost you loads of pain as well as pocket drain ,remelt the chips into whatever stay safe 👨🏻‍🏭🇬🇧
@waterfallforge8320
@waterfallforge8320 4 жыл бұрын
The trick with copper is, if it gives you trouble, just hammer on it till it succumbs. I do it daily. Great vid!
@makerspace533
@makerspace533 4 жыл бұрын
Next time you machine copper, try using buttermilk as a lubricant. When you glue the magnets in place, set the jaw on a steel surface. The magnet will pull itself into place.
@joshwelch8288
@joshwelch8288 3 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking "what if you recess the magnet with loctite" when you said the SAME THING!! AMAZING! :) and despite your troubles the jaws came out lovely!
@firstmkb
@firstmkb 3 жыл бұрын
A long, strange trip, ending in beautiful copper! I am taking the easy way out, and replacing the stock jaw surfaces with half inch copper bars. It won't look sweet, but should work until I can get my skills and shop up to par.
@brianmoore1164
@brianmoore1164 4 жыл бұрын
I did a set for my Bessey vise a couple weeks ago, but I did not do the challenging pocket milling. Just drilled and countersunk some holes and replaced the screws with some nice allen head cap screws. I made a second set out of aluminum as well that are now leather covered.
@Blondihacks
@Blondihacks 4 жыл бұрын
Ooh, leather is a great idea. Now I wanna make a set of those too. 😁
@brianmoore1164
@brianmoore1164 4 жыл бұрын
@@Blondihacks I share your dislike of marred up parts ;)
@silentflyer5498
@silentflyer5498 4 жыл бұрын
Had it been me I would never had dared use them jaws, but hiding in the corner holding them muttering "My Precious" :D Great work and I love they way you don't hide any mistakes but let us all learn from them!
@Blondihacks
@Blondihacks 4 жыл бұрын
I do feel sorta bad using them now, like I don't wanna even get them dirty. 😂
@Dwg67
@Dwg67 4 жыл бұрын
Even with all the issues they still came out pretty nice . I like them.
@GregorShapiro
@GregorShapiro 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking off your shirt! I suspect the absence of Tellurium angered the Tellur Gods so they put a curse on your machine.
@Just1GuyMetalworks
@Just1GuyMetalworks 4 жыл бұрын
Well, they still look pretty bad ass 😁! Thanks for the share, Quinn😊
@EmmaRitson
@EmmaRitson 4 жыл бұрын
enjoyed. glad its not just me that does projects this way.
@johnludlam334
@johnludlam334 4 жыл бұрын
just found your channel and love it keep up the great work
@Hunter_S-fr4ns
@Hunter_S-fr4ns 4 жыл бұрын
Great work.. really enjoyed watching as usual 👍🇬🇧
@Cooliemasteroz
@Cooliemasteroz 4 жыл бұрын
I never would have considered using copper though it is a superior result, some years back I was going to make a set out of that pink material that is used for fiber washers I’m not sure what the correct name of the material is but back in the eighties here in Australia people called it red fibre. Unfortunately I can no longer get it anywhere. I once made my own indexing head for my lathe mill combination where I used an old drill chuck and this red fibre was perfect as brake pads in a mechanism that would clamp on the drill chuck to lock in any position. Any way regardless of your mistakes you’ve given a good demonstration of how difficult copper can be and you’ve shown that you can get yourself out of trouble if you stop and think. A lot of people would have made a mess of it, well done.
@reelmoody2376
@reelmoody2376 4 жыл бұрын
Tim Hill Phenolic? We use it a lot in the aerospace industry. It comes as a solid or in laminate form; round and sheet stock. Pretty expensive, but very durable material.
@Cooliemasteroz
@Cooliemasteroz 4 жыл бұрын
Spax man Yes I nearly suggested phenolic, there’s an English brand available here in Australia called Tufnol which would’ve been a lot easier to work with than copper and I’d say the only disadvantage is that it wouldn’t tolerate flames from a blow torch. But I’d say that the red fibre material that I mentioned has another disadvantage in that it may change shape a bit but the main advantage over copper and Tufnol is that it has greater friction for gripping without as much pressure. Thanks for your information.
@ALWResearchTeam
@ALWResearchTeam 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video and fantastic workmanship
@bcwrangler
@bcwrangler 4 жыл бұрын
Mental note: Leave copper in the metal bin! Seriously though I do have a piece of this copper in my collection that I will use your challenges as reference when it comes time to mill
@madsoncampos
@madsoncampos 3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos!!! please bring more projects!!
@fepatton
@fepatton 4 жыл бұрын
Oh man, I guess we've all had projects like that! You have my sympathy, but the end product looks great and practical. I was just watching a video of AvE making a copper hammer head on a CNC, and one thing he did to avoid chatter (impractical on a manual mill, but I thought it was interesting) was to vary the rotation speed continuously up and down by 500rpm. Even on an expensive Haas CNC, he was having all sorts of trouble. You've convinced me to make soft jaws out of aluminum!
@Blondihacks
@Blondihacks 4 жыл бұрын
Yah, that's a good idea! I've done that on my lathe- literally wiggling the speed control up and down when chatter is starting. It really helps
@MaxWattage
@MaxWattage 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, SSV (spindle speed variation) is a software feature on HAAS machines: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mom1Y6p6eat5o5Y
@WatchmakerErik
@WatchmakerErik 2 жыл бұрын
Since you asked it was very good for me. It made me laugh 😂 Loved this video. Just please tell me you vacuumed up and saved all those copper chips.
@sbirdranch
@sbirdranch 4 жыл бұрын
Hay Blondie. I am continuing to expand my knowledge to, mostly with CNC. I had a couple of thought as I followed along with your challenges. Good on you for looking to glue for the magnet. I am learning the value of clearing chips as I mill. I'd encourage you to put a small ait nozzle with a regulator on your machine. It realy helps with things like aluminum. Based on your experience, instead of copper....im gonna try it with a hard Nylon. Thanks for sharing. ~P
@Steve_1401
@Steve_1401 4 жыл бұрын
I read somewhere that old machinists used to use butter milk as a cutting lubricant on copper - I always wondered what the shop smelt like after a couple of long, hot summer weeks. :)
@chuckscustomammunition2393
@chuckscustomammunition2393 4 жыл бұрын
Most informational when mistakes are made and others get to see, thanks
@clydedecker765
@clydedecker765 4 жыл бұрын
Real KILLER video ... Do NOT allow this video to be shown in ANY machinists shop... No telling what liability will come of it. Sorry for your troubles but loved the video. Won't ask you to rinse and repeat.
@johnapel2856
@johnapel2856 4 жыл бұрын
See, that's why we can't have nice things. I didn't realize that copper could be so problematic. Thanks for the tips. They turned out nice! Ooh... pretty shiny copper. Thanks and Meow!
@ElizabethGreene
@ElizabethGreene Жыл бұрын
As an amateur chemist, I saw your periodic table, checked to see if I was dreaming, and then checked to see if I had a stroke. Both tests came back negative and now I have questions.
@michaelpiotrowicz6100
@michaelpiotrowicz6100 4 жыл бұрын
I get the glue to dry while the magnets are on steel with the copper (etc) on top. It makes sure I get a flush surface so the magnets can grab best. You can put some cling wrap on the steel but the glue shears off the steel for me, with the magnets being in pockets, when I use super glue. Quick question, why make the main pocket so deep if it's just to locate the jaws? I try to not start work until I have some basic drawings these days for some of the reasons you show. Thanks for sharing an imperfect process, it is nice to know we all scramble stuff sometimes :) Nothing's easy.
@Blondihacks
@Blondihacks 4 жыл бұрын
Good question! If the recess is too shallow, the jaws will be unstable because of the overhanging mass.
@bigrockets
@bigrockets 4 жыл бұрын
very nice! think I'll use aluminum. good idea on the magnets too btw!
@billbaggins
@billbaggins 4 жыл бұрын
I've already seen TOT's vid so I know you only took your shirt of to make it easier for him to dive into your parts😏 I've got a heap of copper busbars from an industrial switchboard... If I ever need some soft jaws I think I'll just solder them together rather than emulate all the fun you had.
@Cancun771
@Cancun771 4 жыл бұрын
19:44 I can see the future! I'm seeing... a Patreon drive... for a surface grinder!
@JohnBare747
@JohnBare747 4 жыл бұрын
I can sympathize as my mill ate a control board too a couple of weeks ago, not fun, not cheap.
@wolfy9005
@wolfy9005 4 жыл бұрын
0:30 Been refreshing a lathe for the for the past 2 months, every step has fought me tooth and nail. Worn half nuts, worn crossfeed nut, taper pins stuck, putting stuff back together the wrong way and having to do it three more times...about ready to send it for scrap metal
@WorksbySolo
@WorksbySolo 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, I've never machined copper so, thanks for the heads up. I'll consider myself warned, if I ever venture in that territory.
@richardmeyer418
@richardmeyer418 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. That was very um... enlightening (as well as being pretty entertaining).
Mill Explosion and Repair
25:08
Blondihacks
Рет қаралды 149 М.
Let's Make a Cat's Head!
22:05
Blondihacks
Рет қаралды 157 М.
Gym belt !! 😂😂  @kauermtt
00:10
Tibo InShape
Рет қаралды 17 МЛН
DAD LEFT HIS OLD SOCKS ON THE COUCH…😱😂
00:24
JULI_PROETO
Рет қаралды 16 МЛН
A little girl was shy at her first ballet lesson #shorts
00:35
Fabiosa Animated
Рет қаралды 14 МЛН
Женская драка в Кызылорде
00:53
AIRAN
Рет қаралды 488 М.
MAKE YOUR OWN SOFT JAWS
7:46
Tigermoth Racing
Рет қаралды 10 М.
Portable Band Saw Table! Let's finally make one!
22:34
Blondihacks
Рет қаралды 149 М.
Let's Make Machinist Jacks
25:11
Blondihacks
Рет қаралды 192 М.
Acoustic cameras can SEE sound
11:52
Steve Mould
Рет қаралды 2,5 МЛН
Model builders.... You'll like this one. Take a Look !!
16:55
Making Copper Soft Jaws for the Four Jaw Chuck
7:45
We Can Do That Better
Рет қаралды 31 М.
Lathe Stop!
21:57
Blondihacks
Рет қаралды 191 М.
Stupid Four-Jaw Chuck Tricks
11:27
Blondihacks
Рет қаралды 161 М.
How to DRILL & TAP Hard Jaws | Big Lathe Chuck
18:22
Cutting Edge Engineering Australia
Рет қаралды 512 М.
Как бесплатно замутить iphone 15 pro max
0:59
ЖЕЛЕЗНЫЙ КОРОЛЬ
Рет қаралды 8 МЛН
АЙФОН 20 С ФУНКЦИЕЙ ВИДЕНИЯ ОГНЯ
0:59
КиноХост
Рет қаралды 1,2 МЛН