Bloober Team's Making the Next Silent Hill Game?

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TheGrateDebate

TheGrateDebate

3 жыл бұрын

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Пікірлер: 601
@FleshWolf
@FleshWolf 3 жыл бұрын
Back again, never forget the tragedy that is P.T.
@TheRagingwerepanda
@TheRagingwerepanda 3 жыл бұрын
Amen
@ZLEAP
@ZLEAP 3 жыл бұрын
Greetings from the future. We didnt.
@darthceasar3690
@darthceasar3690 2 жыл бұрын
it not a tragedy. it a master piece, a puzzle and future
@CrimesForDimes
@CrimesForDimes 2 жыл бұрын
@@darthceasar3690 But it is a tragedy that it got canceled.
@TheRareOn
@TheRareOn Жыл бұрын
Sharing this with a lot of people now that they announced the remake today.
@tlarn
@tlarn 3 жыл бұрын
can't wait for Troy Baker to come back and ham it up as Pyramid Head 2
@BurningBeard414
@BurningBeard414 3 жыл бұрын
Trauma Boogaloo?
@returnalnocturnal7729
@returnalnocturnal7729 3 жыл бұрын
@Dman Sneed [Formerly Chuck’s] "looked at meee, I'm Troy Baker!" - Troy Baker
@thephysicsgamer123
@thephysicsgamer123 3 жыл бұрын
I like how "The Medium is released" is on the list of "suspicious events"
@jjjjasonnnn
@jjjjasonnnn 3 жыл бұрын
I'm still not convinced it's a real game.
@nathanielhaven3453
@nathanielhaven3453 3 жыл бұрын
@@jjjjasonnnn it’s not. It’s an 8 hour tech demo
@bruhmoment4118
@bruhmoment4118 3 жыл бұрын
@@nathanielhaven3453 It's a get-rich-quick scam on Silent Hill fans.
@Impalingthorn
@Impalingthorn Жыл бұрын
Correction: It is a spit in the FACE of Silent Hill fans. They not only deliberately stole massive elements, story beats, themes and ideas from Silent Hill, BUT THEY PATENTED SOME OF THEM SO THAT OTHER COMPANIES CAN'T USE THEM. Such as the idea of an "other world". You know, that thing Silent Hill games are notoriously well known for? Bloober Team fucking put a copy right on that and gleefully told everyone "Other companies won't be able to use these ideas". And the thing is, their ENTIRE library of games is LITERALLY based around copy pasting ideas from other companies. Everything before Layers of Fear was a copy paste of something else. Layers of Fear was a copy paste of P.T. Observer is JUST Bladerunner. And The Medium? Fucking hell. I don't believe in divinity, but I am praying to god right now that this all does just turn out to be rumors. It would be like the directors of those cheap, shitty Disney movie knockoffs getting the actual rights to the movies they are plagiarising.
@pelotocino1605
@pelotocino1605 Жыл бұрын
@@Impalingthorn Well, how do you feel now? curious.
@Shiggedy
@Shiggedy 3 жыл бұрын
At first I was 'Ooo, Silent Hill', but then I remembered who Bloober is.
@WeirdoGeek
@WeirdoGeek 3 жыл бұрын
They'd probably have GUN publish it as the cherry on the shit sundae.
@owouwu2587
@owouwu2587 3 жыл бұрын
Chill my dude, they are looking for a combat programmer so this time it won't be a walking simulator!
@WeirdoGeek
@WeirdoGeek 3 жыл бұрын
@@owouwu2587 Does that mean this rumor is probably false? Because there's no way in Hell anyone who thought collaborating with GUN Media was a good idea is getting my money. Not after the F13 travesty.
@420crim3
@420crim3 3 жыл бұрын
@@owouwu2587 :( sooo scaryyy
@Alex_Logan22
@Alex_Logan22 3 жыл бұрын
@SynthWave Dave I'm pretty sure Titanfall 2 did the idea first, so maybe there's a way to dispute that patent. And at least on PS5, the SSD is so fast that you can just instantly render entire world instances without running multiple at the same time (like Ratchet).
@paperbackwriter1111
@paperbackwriter1111 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing the title „Huh, who‘s Bloober Team?“ 0:36 - 0:42 „oh nooooooo“
@magnificmango336
@magnificmango336 3 жыл бұрын
Layers of Fear is the posterchild for bad P.T ripoffs. Why would anyone pick those guys to work on the genuine article?
@returnalnocturnal7729
@returnalnocturnal7729 3 жыл бұрын
@@magnificmango336 they're the best of the bad ripoffs
@false_idol__
@false_idol__ 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't think I'd get the joke even after clicking the timestamp. I do. :(
@tomhaswell6283
@tomhaswell6283 3 жыл бұрын
@@magnificmango336 Because Konami doen't care about its IPs. They only want money and Bloober can givem that.
@restlessdreams5327
@restlessdreams5327 3 жыл бұрын
"Oh boy! I sure hope Silent Hill comes back one day!" *Money's paw curls*
@false_idol__
@false_idol__ 3 жыл бұрын
If they give Bloober Silent Hill, I'm unironically gonna be heartbroken. Edit: 💔
@arijan-itanmuratovic7495
@arijan-itanmuratovic7495 3 жыл бұрын
i never played a silent hill game (well i did the room but really not for much) and i would fn hate if they were the developers
@sunsetnoodle
@sunsetnoodle 3 жыл бұрын
@@arijan-itanmuratovic7495 same i actually got into it through P.T. so not seeing hideo on this is going to throw me off
@bbspooks
@bbspooks 3 жыл бұрын
Same. Read that Supermassive was passed up. Honestly wouldve taken a Supermassive super cinematic choice based Silent Hill over a mediocre failed story Silent Hill that Bloober could make. Bloober just has nothing unique to their style. They consistently drop the ball on depictions of mental illness or a good story in general.
@bbspooks
@bbspooks 3 жыл бұрын
But also theres hope because the rumors were that TWO Silent Hill games are in the works and one is handled by Sony which started in 2019. This Bloober stuff wouldve been Konami in 2018.
@professionalretard6875
@professionalretard6875 3 жыл бұрын
How do we tell them?
@RCXDWarrior
@RCXDWarrior 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing the title kills most of the hope I had for the game.
@yoji287
@yoji287 3 жыл бұрын
Bloober Team's game are rather on better side. I hope they are the one making it because The Layers Of Fear franchise is one of the best horror-thriller I played.
@Impalingthorn
@Impalingthorn 2 жыл бұрын
@@yoji287 Well problem here is I am a huge fan of the first 4 Silent Hill games and I have historically HATED Layers of Fear for being a pretentious thrill ride rather than an actual game. Simply put, Blooper Games makes embellished walking simulators, not Survival Horror Games.
@EmeraldLavigne
@EmeraldLavigne 3 жыл бұрын
This is basically how I've felt about every DCCU movie: I want to enjoy it, bit it really seems like it's gonna be bad...
@Alex_Logan22
@Alex_Logan22 3 жыл бұрын
James Gunn Suicide Squad, Joker, you at least get fed a few gems here and there.
@the_kindly_dolt3692
@the_kindly_dolt3692 3 жыл бұрын
This aged well
@aledg25
@aledg25 3 жыл бұрын
Like fine wine 😂
@majura3743
@majura3743 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing a video from you guys in my notification box was a pleasant surprise this morning
@mreyespy551
@mreyespy551 3 жыл бұрын
Like watching a family member come back for Christmas
@Fetchxsouls
@Fetchxsouls 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@mmaldonadoofficial
@mmaldonadoofficial 3 жыл бұрын
yep certainly
@mintce2238
@mintce2238 3 жыл бұрын
Oh God. I wish I lived in the timeline where Kojima made this game.
@doop00
@doop00 Жыл бұрын
And if they fuck up Silent Hill, then the franchise is probably dead for good.
@Fyrsiel
@Fyrsiel 3 жыл бұрын
I can also understand hesitation about Bloober team trying to create a new Silent Hill game based on where they currently seem to be experience-wise. This will end up being the first time they've attempted a game with combat, and I can't imagine that going too well..... Having seen how they've treated the in-game third-person perspective and their level of animation regarding human faces and forms in cut scenes, they still seem a bit amateur in those categories... Yeeeeah....... I could see this team going hardcore edgy with the storyline and then also providing very clunky gameplay topped with faulty and buggy combat... and also some not great cut scenes in terms of animation... This is a team that seems like it still has a lot more maturing to do before it can tackle a behemoth franchise like Silent Hill...
@juanmanikings
@juanmanikings 3 жыл бұрын
I don't want another silent hill made by a western company after what happened to 7th gen games i prefer that konami just let die the franchise already
@fernandozam4023
@fernandozam4023 Жыл бұрын
I hope some of ur fears have been lifted lol
@doomwalker9934
@doomwalker9934 3 жыл бұрын
Silent Hill is already dead. Konami is just letting Bloober screw its corpse.
@blookwitch8973
@blookwitch8973 3 жыл бұрын
me, a fool, distracted: let me swipe this notification away im busy rn-WAIT WAS THAT GRATE DEBATE
@nickl9317
@nickl9317 Жыл бұрын
Ohohoho. What a shitty day. Alternating sadness and anger right now. Good luck guys.
@RaymondGOAT
@RaymondGOAT Жыл бұрын
Y’all called it 💯👍🏾 had comeback show respect the trailer just dropped
@vinsarrow
@vinsarrow 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you all back. I still haven't forgotten the tragedy of the to be master piece PT. Hopefully a new Silent Hill will be interesting but idk if it'll ever live up to what PT was going to be.
@TheExpendablePanda
@TheExpendablePanda Жыл бұрын
This video is all I could think of when the recent announcement came. Saw their logo and did a big old sigh
@zedc6072
@zedc6072 3 жыл бұрын
Bloober Team should work on applying for retail positions, I cant imagine how obnoxious a SH game by them would be
@bluemooninthedaylight8073
@bluemooninthedaylight8073 3 жыл бұрын
Hackneyed writing, lousy pacing, and little game play, and that's the good parts!
@Blue-cc7qw
@Blue-cc7qw 3 жыл бұрын
The medium was amazing
@firefistace300
@firefistace300 3 жыл бұрын
You definitely never played a silent hill game if you think that there are no obnoxious part in those games lol
@Red-ks8fk
@Red-ks8fk 3 жыл бұрын
I'm really happy to see you guy's upload a new video! And a long one at that! I've rewatched them all many times so it was exciting to get this notification!
@m0rShh
@m0rShh 3 жыл бұрын
The Medium's a horror game in name only. Sure, there's some freaky looking environments I guess, but almost nothing can hurt you so why should you be afraid? Even SH: Shattered Memories had a greater sense of tension and urgency than The Medium.
@_Cerb_
@_Cerb_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@vfxninja5503 And apparently that boring pile of shit received overwhelming positive reviews on Steam? Seems like you're the minority here. Though maybe you have a point, what horror game that you think is good? Just for comparison.
@Hambo325
@Hambo325 3 жыл бұрын
@@vfxninja5503 "I hate you" Oh, boy, did you pick a weird reason to hate someone. Sorry he understands and appreciates art?
@returnalnocturnal7729
@returnalnocturnal7729 3 жыл бұрын
@@vfxninja5503 saying 4 was good? CUT take your ass seriously anymore 🤣
@bruhmoment4118
@bruhmoment4118 3 жыл бұрын
​@@vfxninja5503 You hate someone for...... enjoying a supposedly bad game. I didn't like Soma or The Medium either, but damn. You're a grown man?
@SableSonata
@SableSonata 3 жыл бұрын
Man, the Medium was rough; I watched SuperGreatFriend's playthrough and at one point, he organically solved one of the puzzles, then went back to solve it, only to get no response because he hadn't interacted with each clue, in order, so that the protagonist could solve the puzzle out before they could progress. Regardless, nice to see some more video from you two. Keep up the great work.
@grungebruv
@grungebruv 3 жыл бұрын
I really hope this isn’t true, man everyone keeps screaming for Kojima to save the franchise, and I don’t doubt he wouldn’t make a good game, but I’d prefer to see the old Team Silent reunite to make a game if they ever tried to revive the series. At this point though it feels like it’s too late.
@Elemtree
@Elemtree 3 жыл бұрын
I never thought I’d see this in my notifications again... thank you for the great content once again, even after all this time.
@O.B23
@O.B23 3 жыл бұрын
Hey there, great debate (shoot me), but as native Pole I feel I need to add some some context to what have you said. The "religious-right" part about us is half-correct. While it holds true for older generations of polish citizens, most of younger demographics is unbelieving. Church has been been holding strong position here since the end of World War II, expecially after communists took over, but due to some recent political and cultural events its position of power is weakening and its decline is currently biggest in Europe. Blooper Team, which consist of younger people, have even put some anty-religious and anty-government (current government in Poland proclaims to be very religious) messages in Medium. Also there is no "glorification" of mental illness in our culture. TL;DR - It's not a cultural thing, it's just writers being hacks.
@storm99_
@storm99_ Жыл бұрын
YOU'VE DOOMED US ALL.
@Ebeeto
@Ebeeto 3 жыл бұрын
Two minutes in and I'm already angry.
@JojoMonReturns91
@JojoMonReturns91 3 жыл бұрын
Woah Ebeeto you came back! I remember your Hitman videos! How you doing Ebeeto? Also are you back for real????
@JojoMonReturns91
@JojoMonReturns91 3 жыл бұрын
Also, no I am not going to ask about the Hitman Walkthrough again cause youre still working on it yes?
@grill6411
@grill6411 3 жыл бұрын
@@JojoMonReturns91 _crickets_
@JojoMonReturns91
@JojoMonReturns91 3 жыл бұрын
@@grill6411 as I said, its an old joke that I know wouldnt get referred these days, so.........yeah.
@dontbringatowel
@dontbringatowel 3 жыл бұрын
I just want a game to make me sad and scared at the same time again
@specknacken6507
@specknacken6507 3 жыл бұрын
*"Konami Digital Entertainment and Bloober Team have signed a strategic cooperation agreement."* Rejoice folks! Worst timeline incoming!
@EmeraldLavigne
@EmeraldLavigne 3 жыл бұрын
Incoming? **Gestures at 2020** It's already here, bud.
@VidGamer123
@VidGamer123 3 жыл бұрын
"Pay to grin" Bob, how long were you sitting on THAT one??
@joshs2734
@joshs2734 3 жыл бұрын
I'm only a few mins in, but really hope this isn't true. I've been wildly disappointed by Bloober Team. PT was an incredible masterpiece and Silent Hills was going to be created by true masters of their crafts. To give it to Bloober Team would be such a waste. They make the most tepid, mediocre horror ever. Layers of Fear has such a fantastic premise, but it's so generic and boring. Also, yes, it does rip off P.T. in super blatant and uncool ways, plus the patent bullshit. Bob's video about it is great. Observer was one of the dullest games I've ever played. It's nothing but wandering halls, standing in front of doors motionless listening to people talk, and the scanning is super frustrating.I haven't played The Medium but from the comments, it sounds like it's par for the course for Bloober. i think they're good at coming up with interesting concepts, but garbage at execution, tension and fear. Seriously, give it to Red Candle!!
@TheKnuckmin
@TheKnuckmin 3 жыл бұрын
couldn't of said it better myself, Blooper Team really isn't a good fit for a silent hill project.
@bluemooninthedaylight8073
@bluemooninthedaylight8073 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheKnuckmin As disappointing as the recent Amnesia game is, I think Frictional would be a million times better than Bloober Team. Even a flawed Frictional game still managed to at least retain some genuine scares and body horror, along with some solid atmosphere.
@sandokan565
@sandokan565 3 жыл бұрын
This is so true. People nowadays are happy for any SH rumor but they forget it has to be done by the right team. If we are going to get another trash entry in the series I would be much happier if they let it RIP.
@hollowludens5861
@hollowludens5861 3 жыл бұрын
You shouldn't be saying that they're creating Silent Hills whent that game will never get made unless Kojima and Konami work something out. But yeah, I think Bloober Team is certainly not the best choice.
@juanmanikings
@juanmanikings 3 жыл бұрын
@@bluemooninthedaylight8073 And make it a hide and seek game no thanks
@AlbertusSalvatierra
@AlbertusSalvatierra 3 жыл бұрын
Omg- I’ve been waiting for this. I love your analysis on PT
@sh3mcode747
@sh3mcode747 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Its been awhile and this was a fun listen.
@VentKlik
@VentKlik 3 жыл бұрын
always great to see a new video from you guys :)
@GraViTTyKAT
@GraViTTyKAT 3 жыл бұрын
I haven’t heard such an entertaining, well researched, and engaging group of gaming personalities since the Let’s Fight A Boss podcast gang. Seriously, after watching y’alls respective channels today for their streams and video essays I’m really wishing y’all had your own podcast. Not complaining though! I’m already a fan of what y’all do! Please keep making dope shit, you two👌🏽👌🏽
@Xchax3
@Xchax3 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been following this channel since Senior Year of high school. I’ve graduated from college and still hopeful as you all are for the next Silent Hill to be great.
@CaptainFram
@CaptainFram 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for such a thorough conversation! You two have such a fantastic rapport with each other, it's wonderful to listen to.
@Nixitur
@Nixitur 3 жыл бұрын
Well, this video aged beautifully.
@owouwu2587
@owouwu2587 3 жыл бұрын
If this theory is correct then I think Masahiro Ito might change their mind. He'll definitely take part in helping with story for that game. He was a core member of Team Silent, I think he himself mentioned on Twitter that their whole team was discussing the plot and making new ideas. If he'd share that experience and his understanding of what Silent Hill is with Bloober Team then I think they might nail it!
@Alex_Logan22
@Alex_Logan22 3 жыл бұрын
Still quite the mountain for Bloober though, they'll have to get comfortable with being uncomfortable and stressing over game development. They've been making games on easy mode this whole time and if they're doing that, they'd suddenly be jumping into hard mode.
@Fetchxsouls
@Fetchxsouls 3 жыл бұрын
This is a blessing, i saw the whole P.T. Trilogy. Now this? Awesome!
@PixelPursuit
@PixelPursuit 3 жыл бұрын
I have to say a big well done to you on this. It seems like you were spot on with this prediction!
@residentevilclone
@residentevilclone 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair to this combat designer- the bar for combat in a Silent Hill game is EXTREMELY low. Shouldn’t be hard to just make a passable system.
@GMODTF24EVER
@GMODTF24EVER 3 жыл бұрын
Loved your videos on PT and subscribed, great to see you uploading again after so long!
@crl.f
@crl.f Жыл бұрын
Sometimes I wish you guys would be wrong for once...
@limppickle4306
@limppickle4306 3 жыл бұрын
I just found this channel a few days ago and assumed it was abandoned due to the last upload being almost a year and a half ago. Glad to see I was wrong
@fabrimuch
@fabrimuch 3 жыл бұрын
The moment I heard "Layers of Fear" all my excitement turned to dejection
@gray01216
@gray01216 3 жыл бұрын
I KNOW THAT PFP
@Snikabarz
@Snikabarz 3 жыл бұрын
tf why everyone here against layers of fear, that's one of my favourite horror games. 2 was absolute ass though
@pjfair12547
@pjfair12547 3 жыл бұрын
Watched your last video yesterday, then you post for this first time in so long. Crazy
@spoogie35
@spoogie35 3 жыл бұрын
Your point at 58:15 onward really strikes a nerve with me. That's part of why I don't play games anywhere NEAR as much as I used to. I miss games that were done when you got it.
@necroarcanistxiii
@necroarcanistxiii 2 жыл бұрын
I spent a good amount on Final Fantasy 15's deluxe edition only for it to be re-released a year later as the Royal Edition, and half the online events like the Assassins Creed festival I didn't even know about until it was over. Squeenix kinda lost my respect that day. I'm getting tired of half-done games being released just so you can pile DLC and limited time stuff.
@spoogie35
@spoogie35 2 жыл бұрын
@@necroarcanistxiii Personally, I skipped 13-15, but mostly because those were released when the DLC era was starting to take hold, and I lost interest in gaming more or less. I bet I played through more games in 2004 than I did from 2007-2020. That said I did pick up FF15 Royal Edition last month I think it was, for $10, physical copy at that. I figure at that price I certainly can't be upset, and now that I finally have time for gaming during the winters... Also, would it change your opinion of SE if they told you up front, "hey, this game is gonna take a while for us to finish, here's what we have for now." as is the case with FF7R? I feel it's more honest, and I can respect that. The dlc for that game (can't speak for the Yuffie bits, because they'd have to release the PS5 first, haha), was mostly pointless, and I'm ok with pointless dlc. I certainly don't feel I missed anything by not using Carbuncle as a summon.
@necroarcanistxiii
@necroarcanistxiii 2 жыл бұрын
@@spoogie35 I border on the hardcore completionist side, so not being able to access any part of anything due to being locked behind DLC, alternate editions, outdated versions, or even multiplayer-exclusive content (Like FF Tactics' ultimate weapons) is something that really grinds some gears.
@spoogie35
@spoogie35 2 жыл бұрын
@@necroarcanistxiii Ahh, I could see that being a problem then. I just don't game nearly as much as I once did, so by the time I get around to buying a "new" game, it's often a few years old and includes all the dlc. Shame it ever had to come to that, but it's the best approach for me. And since when is FF Tactics a multiplayer game? I played it on PS1, have (but haven't played yet) the PSP version, but I don't recall there ever being multiplayer?
@necroarcanistxiii
@necroarcanistxiii 2 жыл бұрын
@@spoogie35 The War of the Lions remake has 2 multiplayer modes, a head-to-head Melee and co-op Rendevous. (I kinda misremembered which version I was referring to when I mentioned the multiplayer content :p) But yeah, a lot of the Ultimate Weapons in WotL are exclusive to the Multiplayer modes as random rewards. However, in the iOS version of the remake, the weapons can be bought from a Poacher's Den after beating the main game. Honestly, if I was a developer, I would've done that from the beginning. It doesn't help either that finding someone to play a PSP game these days is hard enough. It hasn't received any new games since 2016 to keep it relevant, even the online store having been shut down in July this year. (Tho apparently you can still download PSP titles on PS3 and Vita)
@josetakapele
@josetakapele 3 жыл бұрын
I first played silent hill in 2018. I’ve played almost every games since. I am lucky enough to own a PS4 with pt but I want to know what it feels like to look forward to a new silent hill. Maybe one day I’ll get the chance be be excited over something that actually exists.
@snakeeater6738
@snakeeater6738 2 жыл бұрын
Recently played Layers of Fear and got nothing but PT flashbacks. The controls are practically the same. I will say this though, they can take they’re time and bring in the scares slowly. It’s not all in your face jumpscares. So I guess I am looking forward to this for that reason.
@Wiklina616
@Wiklina616 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who is polish and lives in Poland and is a lifelong Silent Hill fan and faces some mental issues since childhood (anxiety and depression) I feel like I tick all the boxes to comment on statements made about my home country :) I feel like there is still some stigma in polish society when it comes to mental health, but I see it mostly in smaller towns and countryside's. In bigger metropolitan areas, like Wroclaw where I live we have around 200 or so mental healthcare professionals that you can see if you need therapy. So I wouldn't say that we live in mental dark ages where people who struggle with depression are burned on the stake. I would say that taking our history into account, trauma and suffering is something that some people see as "badge of honor". But that outdated view is slowly being eradicated. And that whole.....far right thing. Poland comes from 50 years of living under USSR, so some people have not so good view of any socially left leaning ideas. But that shows how differently we view these things in Europe, because we still have free healthcare and our currently ruling right wing party came into power by just giving money to poor people.....Which I know will be an alien idea to any american who reads this :P Right wing party that comes to power by buying votes from poorest people :D So I would say that we are ruled by ideological right wing party, who is all about God, patriotism and all that stuff. But approval polls show that polish society is split down the middle when it comes to the ruling party. Sadly last year they pushed through a law that bans abortion. This created a gigantic wave of protests, fights with police. They started to antagonize LGBTQ community. Another wave of protests. So I would say that we are not a far right country. We're just split between right and left and right is in power. For now at least.
@Alex_Logan22
@Alex_Logan22 3 жыл бұрын
So, not lost to older times, but still finding their place in today's.
@JotoheKian
@JotoheKian Жыл бұрын
13:00 Person from Poland speaking. NO, we don't think like that in general. It's a country with many problems, sure, but common people are perfectly normal and generally kind folks with decent empathy levels. Personally, I don't know even one person who would demonize a mentally ill person, and there are many, many people who are affected by mental issues in one way or another, just like anywhere else. It's also not some sort of cult country that will ostracize others for mental problems. Not that there is anything wrong with being a religious country (although I really wouldn't say that about Poland - maybe grandparents' generation, but not at all nowadays?), but everyone tries to think for themselves, just like in most (if not all) other places. Once again, though, I'm purposefully speaking of common, everyday folks that are just trying to live their lives in peace and be kind to others. Any disgusting people who yell loudly and are the most visible in media or elsewhere, sharing toxicity and discriminating against others are NOT what common people here are actually like. So while I haven't any of Bloober's games yet, I don't think many Polish people would be happy about the Medium's narrative... (Edit: And sorry if this sounded a bit emotional, but it's hurtful when people tend to think Poland is just some mentally-stuck country with no empathy... While I would risk saying that people here are actually too empathethic, at times, always hurt because of the care and heart they show to others (and get kicked in the teeth afterwards as thanks). We might be poor, we might be kicked in our asses way too many times, we might have a lot of toxic people in media, but regular people are really sweet and awfully miserable because of that on a regular basis. Eh...).
@JotoheKian
@JotoheKian Жыл бұрын
And one more thing - we are NOT an Eastern Europe country! :P
@alialdoukhi2014
@alialdoukhi2014 Жыл бұрын
@@JotoheKian seriously?
@GreekJR2
@GreekJR2 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t get the “they make gorgeous games” comment because the three games of there’s I’ve played-Observer, Blair Witch, and The Medium-look really crusty and not always on purpose.
@bluemooninthedaylight8073
@bluemooninthedaylight8073 3 жыл бұрын
Their clunky attempts at scares and stealth have a real unity horror game feel to them. They're like a slightly better polished shovel ware game that thinks it's really a masterpiece of storytelling.
@NachozMan
@NachozMan 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah Blair Witch looked really visually fucked and not in a good aesthetic way
@Hambo325
@Hambo325 3 жыл бұрын
Completely hard disagree on that one. That's probably the only thing they do relatively well. The medium is gorgeous and they nailed the old silent hill camera style and atmosphere in the medium. Layers of fear was actually really beautiful imo with the way the room warps. The same goes for Observers vibe and art direction. Blair witch... That one I'll give you. I still wouldn't call it crusty. Just generic.
@returnalnocturnal7729
@returnalnocturnal7729 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hambo325 people forget that they're PC could be the crusty mess chugging along to newer games
@GreekJR2
@GreekJR2 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hambo325 I think they have can have a strong sense of direction. But fidelity-wise the games don't look all that great. There is always something off about them.
@NarokathCrimzonAE
@NarokathCrimzonAE 3 жыл бұрын
Another western haunted-house game about psychology... not a psychological horror.
@EmeraldLavigne
@EmeraldLavigne 3 жыл бұрын
I sincerely appreciate the TW right at the front. It's helpful to know what I'm in for...
@eddiedombrowski1960
@eddiedombrowski1960 3 жыл бұрын
No way, I was just watching all of the videos on this channel again, crazy
@dav2-094
@dav2-094 3 жыл бұрын
Oh fuck no. If after all these years Bloober is the one in charge of reviving the franchise im going to kill Konami. Bloober has yet to make a good game, The Medium, Layers of Fear and Observer are all average at best, and Blair Witch is straight up bad. The Medium, which is the closest thing to Silent Hill they've made is a mess of a game that forgets that its supposed to be a horror game (It has one fucking jumpscare and thats literally it). The Medium is the proof that they couldnt handle a bigger IP like Silent Hill. We've had several mid Silent Hill games but the game that revives the franchise should be something outstanding and that pushes forward what the series stated. Bloober Team can't do that.
@overkill1473
@overkill1473 3 жыл бұрын
Giving Bloober Silent Hill is like throwing pearls before swine.
@moegeemoe
@moegeemoe 3 жыл бұрын
YEH! @voidburger you're using your profile pic I drew for other stuff. Made my day to see that gritty little beef sandwich on a TGD video! Gosh, I really wish the Bloober team could bring in folks like you two to advise on the game... Like if they don't want SH fans to shit on it, they need to bring in fans with credibility to consult on stuff like the story. (I realize how naive this sounds... and I'm okay with that)
@haughtygarbage5848
@haughtygarbage5848 3 жыл бұрын
i hadn't seen pics of Itoh recently but dang that hair is fabulous
@koth_harvest_final
@koth_harvest_final Жыл бұрын
you guys are too good at your work
@k.u.m.o.r
@k.u.m.o.r 3 жыл бұрын
This will be exploding all over the internet any second now LOL 🤣
@MSantosMusic
@MSantosMusic 3 жыл бұрын
You guys were the first people to have the best breakdowns of PT...congrats on that
@SlyInvasion
@SlyInvasion 3 жыл бұрын
Just watched this today. Did they ever do the follow-up video about The Medium? Would be very interested in hearing their takes about that game.
@Alex_Logan22
@Alex_Logan22 3 жыл бұрын
Probably on other channels
@SlyInvasion
@SlyInvasion 3 жыл бұрын
@@Alex_Logan22 I went and looked around their personal channels and their twitch VODs, nothing. Guess they never got around to doing it. Thanks for your reply though mate, I appreciate it.
@rebornkusabi7264
@rebornkusabi7264 3 жыл бұрын
Final comment. And I'm not pointlessly hating either- they DO have a game of theirs I legitimately liked: Observer. Which at first seems like a Blade Runner homage but radically becomes its own thing after the hour mark. On top of that, while the writing isn't anything to write home about, Rutger Hauer's acting pretty much elevates it enough to be engaging throughout with a sense of solemn gravitas their games normally miss. On top of that, I felt the setting it went with actually worked to the companies strengths, ie crazy visuals being a by-product of crazy neuromancy.
@AwesomeMooseSmile
@AwesomeMooseSmile 3 жыл бұрын
Never played any bloober game so maybe I'm not grasping how bad of a situation this is in comparison to everyone else, but I imagine this is like when we were about to get a really good Ghostbusters 3 but some higher up made sure it didn't happen and now it can never happen, and the aftermath of this is that we did get a new Ghostbusters, but it wasn't very good, and I think that's what this is gonna be like.
@SlaineTheLocalRapist
@SlaineTheLocalRapist 3 жыл бұрын
I mean Bloober games really doesn't have a great live up of games under their belt but they could knock it out of the park, but tbh I hope the Dusk golem leaks are true and it's a sony developed game, as I could imagine Project siren could easily work on that, considering that team consits of a lot of the development team from the OG team silent
@TheGoslapa
@TheGoslapa 3 жыл бұрын
Love to see you two back on it! Lots of hugs and shiit about silent hill lol
@brookeshaven3326
@brookeshaven3326 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a relatively new Silent Hill fan (I first played through the first three about three years ago and 4 one year ago) so the idea of a new Silent Hill game, no matter how good or bad it turns out, really excited me. Then I played through and finished Homecoming yesterday and now I think the series should stay dead. That feeling could change, I'm still feeling raw about Homecoming and there's a chance that Shattered Memories and Downpour could change my mind, but I don't trust Konami at all to choose the right team for the project. That said, I would love it if Red Candle games got a hold of the series.
@Blackgriffonphoenixg
@Blackgriffonphoenixg 3 жыл бұрын
Downpour was done dirty by big K. The team understood more about the theming of a Silent Hill game only to get it dealt a kick in the balls.
@gaminggaming.6071
@gaminggaming.6071 3 жыл бұрын
i meaannnn, aesthetics is one of the most important parts to make something scary. Junji Ito's stories are the most famous horror mangas in japan and his mangas are focused on how something looks.
@MasterAnge
@MasterAnge 3 жыл бұрын
:/ Despite the bad graphics I still get spooked by PS1 horror games. The most important thing in horror is building suspense.
@catzor4795
@catzor4795 3 жыл бұрын
Ambiance and overall art direction.
@kierangraham1845
@kierangraham1845 2 жыл бұрын
Bloomber Tean should remake SH1 since everything is already in place for them so it would be harder to mess up, then leave a mainline title up to someone else like this other Japanese Studio or something.
@CL9Mat
@CL9Mat 3 жыл бұрын
I had a heart attack when I saw that you guys uploaded a new video. Good to see you didn't forget this channel.
@noodlesatemybaby
@noodlesatemybaby 3 жыл бұрын
Just saw you guys uploaded and ran around my house finding blankets, food and a warm drink. Alright i'm ready
@jackw8876
@jackw8876 3 жыл бұрын
I had no idea Bobvids was one of the people who works on this channel! Discovered both separately but enjoyed both quite a bit
@rngwrldngnr
@rngwrldngnr 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like Andrzej Madrzak was the writer credited across most bloober team games discussed here, though they aren't the only credited writer on individual games. Also Observer and VtM: Coteries of New York.
@BeaverDaBeaver
@BeaverDaBeaver 3 жыл бұрын
I wanna make a parody game of the medium to call them out on that patent
@enigmaticvaran6597
@enigmaticvaran6597 2 жыл бұрын
You bring up some good points, and it's a bit discouraging assuming the rumors are true. However, all things considered, if Silent Hill gets a reboot there are definitely worse candidates to make it happen than Bloober Team.
@nighteatingyou
@nighteatingyou 3 жыл бұрын
LOL Layers of my ass... it's that team. How can Ito even agree to being seen with them?
@davidgrzesiakowski3455
@davidgrzesiakowski3455 3 жыл бұрын
The way I see it, any Silent Hill game is good at this point. If we are able to show konami that there is a demand for Silent Hill, this could lead up to more in the future. However I do still hope it's not as bad as expected.
@illusoryjoys
@illusoryjoys 3 жыл бұрын
I kinda feel like if they do make this Silent Hill game, it’ll fully just be like watered down Resident Evil 7, cause that’s what’s popular and that’ll sell
@brabiz67
@brabiz67 3 жыл бұрын
Or it’ll be on par with it, which would be cool. I’m going to save my hype and disdain once there’s more info.
@illusoryjoys
@illusoryjoys 3 жыл бұрын
@@brabiz67 That’s true I shouldn’t have been as pessimistic, I personally would love a Silent Hill game that had the same kind of quality and gameplay as RE7, I would play the shit out of that haha
@dyb368
@dyb368 3 жыл бұрын
Oh god Bob's gonna explode
@DaInternetBear
@DaInternetBear 3 жыл бұрын
Its been a while lads, good times ahead
@ScottJohnHarrison
@ScottJohnHarrison 3 жыл бұрын
I just at the end of Bob's play through of "The Medium" and I expected some of that end but not how bad the end was.
@brian_b_music
@brian_b_music 3 жыл бұрын
Did VB say that Silent Hill did trigger warnings first??? I thought that was Resident Evil in 1996.
@bds7370
@bds7370 3 жыл бұрын
Missed you guys!
@theMoporter
@theMoporter 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe they were going with a Pyramid Head thing by having the whole monster on display? But the difference is that Pyramid Head has unknown motives for most of the game.
@thepicausno5561
@thepicausno5561 3 жыл бұрын
My dream Silent Hill dev team is Kojima Productions
@Hambo325
@Hambo325 3 жыл бұрын
All of us is.
@grungebruv
@grungebruv 3 жыл бұрын
Mine is reunited Team Silent
@Blackgriffonphoenixg
@Blackgriffonphoenixg 3 жыл бұрын
they even planned on having JUNJI FUCKING ITO do monster design.
@CXNFINED
@CXNFINED 3 жыл бұрын
fr bro they cancel that and instead are giving us a game by bloober team
@CXNFINED
@CXNFINED 3 жыл бұрын
​@@Blackgriffonphoenixg It fucking sucks it had such great names attached to it. Could've been such a great game. There was rumors about a silent hills revival and the dude is still saying that its real but I highly doubt it. Tho if it does happen i'll lose my shit
@ethancastillo7582
@ethancastillo7582 3 жыл бұрын
Good to have you back
@elizabethlovett4318
@elizabethlovett4318 3 жыл бұрын
If Konami is stuck on what to do I'd love to see a Silent Hill 1 remake. Not a re-imagining like Shattered Memories (though I do enjoy that because it's different but was still psychological), a more faithful remake like, if not more so, like Resident Evil 2 in that sense of a remake. I've never played the original Silent Hill and I would love a remake of it. I would love to play the original too but I can never seem to get lucky there and I gave up looking. I made do with watching walkthroughs of it on youtube at that point. It'd be great if they remake the original and made it a bundle with the original for an up to date console and/or pc. Resident Evil 1 remade their first game and others, why not do this with Silent Hill1?
@Fenrakk101
@Fenrakk101 3 жыл бұрын
How did you get the icons to light up when you were talking?
@Akimatu
@Akimatu 3 жыл бұрын
This aged like a fine wine. As always great work, TheGrateDebate! The worst case scenario is actually happening
@derpleyew
@derpleyew Жыл бұрын
and I oop
@sourxpill
@sourxpill 3 жыл бұрын
I'm SO glad I stayed subscribed!!!!
@Robertadams34956
@Robertadams34956 3 жыл бұрын
R.I.P. P.T. Silent Hills never forgotten but those “others” at KONAMI just had to pull the plug.
@fernan2342
@fernan2342 3 жыл бұрын
The deal was " show me that you can make a profit " ? How about "Show me that you can make a good game"
@anterosauditore5850
@anterosauditore5850 3 жыл бұрын
Well its a great game
@rebornkusabi7264
@rebornkusabi7264 3 жыл бұрын
@Anteros Auditore It's not, it's an objectively bad game with "gameplay" being "look at thing, look at more things, have dialogues get spoken at you, not to you, AT you, repeat". If you meant it was a good story? Yeah, I can why in an age of Marvel films made for literal dumb babies, that are enjoyed by adults in their 30's with extreme arrested development, the story might sound good. It isn't. At all. But I can see it ;)
@gurlypanda296
@gurlypanda296 3 жыл бұрын
@@rebornkusabi7264 Okay wait how on earth can it be objectively bad? For the most part it seems to have good reviews, I haven’t played it so I can’t say if it’s good or not. But you assume your opinion is objective even though it really isn’t. Anteros likes it so you can’t really go and say it’s objectively bad lol comes off as pretentious, man.
@NachozMan
@NachozMan 3 жыл бұрын
Not gatekeepy at all, Bloober makes shite games
@helloofthebeach
@helloofthebeach 2 жыл бұрын
When they mentioned Jordan Peele at the end, I physically yelled "YEAH!!!"
@cookie1157
@cookie1157 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, a year later and you are back!
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