Blown Again!! Why Are There So Many Red Sea Equipment Failures?!!!!

[@WillAsplund]

The red sea aquariums call for a premium price and supply a substandard product. Their margins have to be absolutely insane. Silicone seals should last at least 10-15 years on the conservative side. More likely 20-30 years.

[@thombaz]

Depends on a lot of factors I think.I never had big tanks and I always got mine from a German factory, really high quality, but they can make mistakes too. I heard a lot of theory why silicone fail.

[@estebansaldana3397]

That's awful, what a nightmare. Ive been bouncing back and forth on upgrading my 32 i own and the first thing recommended to me ironically was a redsea. You arent the first that has reported this. Many people on several different threads have encountered the same issues. Makes me nervous just thinking about it. Good luck 🤞 hopefully things get sorted out.

[@adamprice8382]

This happens to a ton of the larger red sea aquariums. Its always the larger ones. I see tons of them for sale after they've failed.

[@thepolishreefer4135]

It’s every Red Sea tanks and sumps. Dont matter their size. Its all junk

[@adamprice8382]

@@thepolishreefer4135 I agree, and you can forget EVER reaching ANYONE for customer service. You just get some obscure recording from Saudi Arabia 😅

[@rudra7615]

@@thepolishreefer4135 I think it definitely are the bigger ones. I've still got my Red Sea 170 and no issues. It must be the size, the pressure of the water, weight etc

[@RBXXXX]

Wtf! Now I know what aquarium brand not to buy once I upgrade. Thanks for sharing.

[@declanlorraway3764]

Just happened with my redsea 350. Their app is bad and can never reliably connect with my dosing pumps. The stand is aqua one level of quality, any bit of water it swells the shitty mdf board its made of. Decided to ditch them and go with the cade s2 1200.

[@l2deng]

My RedSea failed in Oct. It was a disaster, just got my floor replaced last week. When I was getting the tank ready for disposal, I flipped it upside down and I noticed the silicone is not consistent near the leaking point, there was a join point in the middle, silicone has different color, different consistency left and right of the joining point.

[@xisotopex]

the anger in this video is palpable... and rightfully so...

[@rudra7615]

I think this is why the Nyos Opus Proline works as the glass sits inside the cabinet

[@rudra7615]

Red Sea sweats when this guy places an order

[@mattphillips6714]

I run a freshwater system but use a RedSea ReefWave to help with nutrient suspension/export, as such I am part of a RedSea forum in the UK. This new level RedSea aquarium you talk about coming on an Aluminium stand, the aquarium doesn’t fit on the stand and overhangs a good half inch if not more side to side guess what’s been reported on these setups… the glass is horrifically chipping away on corners to the point the glass thickness is down to a third thickness and writing that tank off as a potential glassblowing not seal but glass failure. I don’t understand why there hasn’t been a recall of poor product. If a car. Manufacturer creates a dangerous product the vehicle is recalled back, if a small child is near a large system tank and a seal has a catastrophic failure it could very easily cause a life changing injury or worse still a death.. RedSea needs to investigate their product line and understand why or how poor products or workmanship is being produced..

[@BAYSTATESTUDIOS]

I have a red sea .. but looking for a larger future upgrade.. is this really a common issue? They sell so many I wonder what the actual failure rate % is..

[@CoralReef69]

That’s wild! Their Red Sea 90 LED lights are still driving me insane

[@davidmilne6513]

Glad so many people post this type of video. Looking to buy a large marine aquarium and after seeing so many of failures by RedSea will be definately staying away from them. Would love a waterbox as they look good quality but are so expensive in the UK. The least RedSea can do for you is give you a Replacement tank, Cabinet and sump next day shipping to appease you. Hope you have success with your complaint to them as this is every aquarists worst nightmare.

[@Nifilheimur]

Dont know if you have any dealers with Neptunian aquariums in the UK but i bought one in Norway and id say its hard to find a better deal out there and quality is superb. Sump is also a thing of beuty.

[@apple-ej4zt]

Acrylic is the way to go. All glass aquariums look so sketchy being held together by just those seals

[@masonj19]

This is becoming so common now! Why people keep buying them i have no idea.

[@gunthersreef]

It’s happening to everyone who bought them back in 2015-2021.

[@4foxsake571]

Wow. That’s absolute trash. Really glad I purchased an Innovative Marine 200 peninsula. So sorry to hear this happened. That’s the worst.

[@dannypham4203]

i will never buy red sea id have one split and flood my house and spent hours and thousands of dollars in repairs, i highly recommend JBJ or Waterbox, half the price of red sea, and will not fail on you.

[@dannypham4203]

Also bought a USED Jbj 45 gal tank, with chips on some of the edges that is almost halfway through and is still holding strong.

[@Mcrichalot12]

WB is no where near half the price

[@michaelmyers5027]

after seem failure after seem failure i will never own a red sea tank again.

[@darktonio377]

That is really scandaleous. There should be a class action. So many similar videos i bought a waterbox

[@HNiCDuke]

Couldnt pay me to own one of these, seen too many stories. All that money for a tank that will leak in a year or 2

[@eal1]

Try being conned into buying an MP40 pump they make this tank look reliable

[@Swany86]

i got my 6' 180 gal in 2001 had air in the silicone its 2023 and i still have it and the line is all the way down that side never had water leak i ben waiting for the day lol but i paid 200 dollors for just glass tank do that today

[@TheirWorldAquatics]

Ouch!!! Nobody in this hobby wants to come home to that.

[@robertvacchiano1136]

Had two different Marinland deep demension tanks leak on me in three years just like yours the second one was a replacement that also failed in three years tanks were 300 gallons so I feel your pain but not just Red Sea has a problem so does marineland tanks

[@ProducerReef]

So sad man. Too many horror stories with Red Sea and these tank blowing out. Sorry man….

[@rolisreefranch]

Break the cycle, bruh. Stop with the over-priced CCP tanks. Get yourself a US made one for less from GlassCages, Planet, or any number of legit vendors, or get an acrylic. Definitely won't have that problem with acrylic. That's a good AquaMaxx skimmer... I have it too.

[@curtcastle2919]

I’m so glad I didn’t buy this crap 😅

[@bfgbfg6515]

The worst nightmare an aquarist can come across ! 3 years only !?! Glad I went the custom route , tank still holding salt water from the year 2006 till today !

[@samoryTure]

I almost bought a Red sea. I went to a store, took a look at one, and walked away. The silicone job looked so bad.

[@thechosenone9943]

I would never buy Red Sea products again , bought Red Sea reef mat motor went replace now it don't connect to WiFi . Red Sea dc pump moist asf . 🚩🤷🏿‍♂️

[@dpp898]

Only good thing redsea makes is test kits 😂😂😂 so many better tank manufacturers innovative marine waterbox cade and ton more would also get a strap and strap around it untill you can transfer or get stuff out could go anytime as well. Word of advice dont buy a redsea they lost me as a customer when my 250 seal popped

[@thepolishreefer4135]

Buyer be ware of the Red Sea Junk

[@sher666]

Number 7 with a leak, I hope you manage to save your fish and corals, and get compensation!

[@07szim]

so happy i didnt go with a redsea tank. i love their ATO and Doser tho

[@07szim]

go with waterbox, i have three and i've been fairly impressed with the quality.

[@mikeybmw1]

Worrying , are they replacing it ?

[@LordNecron]

What has been kind of suspicious is that those failures tend to happen on tanks where the cabinet does NOT have the front pane supported by the bottom slab or the cabinet top board. Waterbox has the same in their official cabinets. Problem is due to them wanting 'pretty' looking cabinets with 'smooth' fronts where you don't see any 1 to 2 inch (2.5 to 5 cm) wood slab between tank and doors.

[@euantan1167]

I’d say it’s because of this. Tons of water pressure pushing against the front glass and corners while not being supported . His failures are mainly at the front seams and not the back. Definitely giving up proper engineering in the name of aesthetics.

[@gunthersreef]

The cabinet has suspended metal under the front panel. It’s the silicone because it’s happening on the sumps as well.

[@sg1trogdor]

@@gunthersreef I wonder if its the silicone they use specifically or something they are half assing during assembly like dirty glass etc. Sucks man. Im in the process of setting up a reef tank again after about 6 years out of the hobby. seeing stuff like this scares me. I just bought a used tank and decided to reseal it because the silicone was looking a bit worn out.

[@bobbyknox9258]

Is your floor spongey or moving when you walk near to the tank?

[@gunthersreef]

No, single story solid concrete slab surrounded by hardwood floors

[@eal1]

I have a Kakai China aquarium been great since 2012. Also avoid MP40 pumps dreadful reliability

[@behindtheseeyesiseewhatyou8953]

Red Sea wasn’t known for thier high end manufacturing when the hobby was in its infancy.. pre-2004

[@akvasvet]

👍👍 👍👍👍

[@simonlockley-evans3925]

I've been in the hobby for 29 years. Redsea have always been extremely good at "marketing" they also seem to realise the majority of people do not stay in the hobby long with an attrition rate of 90% you can see what they are doing here . They price and market their products as premium. They are not premium at all. They are still making their tanks with a diaphram valve that people have been complaining about for a decade. Their G2 has a 5 year warranty which is also laughable. You should get at least 10 years for a material or workmanship defect causing failure

[@gunthersreef]

Agree

[@kedrondavis4226]

We should do a class action lawsuit

[@stevenmoomey2115]

“Boss, We Ran out of the Alcohol for Cleaning the Glass!” “Don’t worry, we have it on order, keep building the Aquariums, we have orders to fill!” BTW, If you want a really Strong Aquarium, get a CDA, out of California. Euro Braced on the Bottom and the Top. Benefit, of the top Euro Brace, is you don’t splash water over, and down the outside glass, when cleaning the inside glass.

[@TXREEF]

sorry to see this!!! Is it the G2 version?

[@TXREEF]

I see you said it wasn't. I'm sorry this happened to you. I think redsea should offer G2 upgrades for free, or at the very least only pay the difference between G1 and G2.

[@gunthersreef]

No, it’s an OG 625XXL. All of us that supported RS in their beginning go screwed with faulty equipment. So what should a person do when ALL of their Red Sea equipment fails? This company is a personal injury threat to health and safety.

[@tigcarn]

Ive seen this with so many rimless aquariums no matter what brand they have been. Its my biggest fear with the eurobraced aquarium i got.

[@FranklinDattein]

I doubt you will see that happening with a Cade tank.

[@fagan4119]

No lie, I thought this video was going to be about oil rigs or something in the actual red sea.

[@nhancedsvt]

I almost bought a Red Sea Reefer 170 used a couple weeks ago. Fortunately I did a little research and came across the seams issue. I passed on that deal.

[@corsair371]

Unacceptable 😢

[@thomasthecat951]

Dollar tree 😂 I had to laugh sorry man. Hope you get something good

[@GoldenHordeofBerke]

Sorry this happened. Love the tank set up and species

[@jonnyrhodes9302]

It could be your algae cleaner with the blade, commonly happens, if you're pushing the blade into the silicon it will cause this over time. Just a tip for your next aquarium. Not stating that this is the actual reason though.

[@reefinainteasy730]

Red Sea actually puts plastic silicone guards in the corners from preventing you doing that with the scraper on their reefer tanks.

[@dpp898]

Been using flipper against my silicon for years mate it won't cut unless you want it to redsea products are trash aside from test kits and nanos

[@felixXH12]

@@reefinainteasy730only with the G2 :) he has a G1

[@The1NdNly]

blade on the flipper is angled the wrong way to do this also@@reefinainteasy730

[@southparkreefman4366]

Silicone and glass cleaner razor blade doesn’t mix well.

[@kbee7538]

I tell you why they bevel edge all glass's panels and you lose 2mm off each edge so 12mm plate ends up with only 8mm of polished edge I allways euro back any tank and you have most probably been cutting into the silicone with a blade scraper

[@mikem8608]

Is it a Gen 1, if so this is old news and nobody is surprised? I have three Red Sea LED 90's and they perform flawless.

[@eal1]

Old news that they can't make a glass box to keep water in 😅 come on! It's not rocket science, most people can make a DIY aquarium that lasts at least 10 years. It's shockingly embarrassing for a commercial brand that trys to be premium 😂

[@SaiyanSatsuki]

A tank that large usually needs a base at the top, to keep the water volume from pushing the silicone apart.

[@ethanpriestley3676]

That's if your not using 15mm glass, it has 0.0504m2 roughly worth or glued surface area. My aquasys 395 is similar and no reported issues heard of 🤷‍♂️ The problem is the silicone red sea is using must be shit, either that or shit staff that left the mating surfaces contaminated, must have been made on a Friday.

[@SaiyanSatsuki]

lmfao, True, on a friday!@@ethanpriestley3676

[@Desmo1]

I wonder if a lot of these seam issues are contributed by running powerheads in the wave making modes. I see a lot of reefers that will run this mode for hours a day and it is a lot of force being smashed side to side up against the seams. Also, if I'm not mistaken some of the manufactures warn against this mode for this reason. I encourage people to frequently check seams and if there's any bubbles or irregularity, don't chance it, get drain the tank and get rid of it. I also notice you have very little to no algae on the glass right up against your seams, and you have and algae scrapper. Could it be that you are inadvertently hitting the silicon to get that algae so clean up against the seams?

[@michaelfallen1564]

If a powerhead or algae scraper can cause a tank to fail, that tank should not be on the market. Period. It's not like Red Sea designed these tanks to be used as a goldfish tank with no flow and no coralline algae. If those are seriously contributing factors in these failures, it just further highlights that these tanks were poorly designed from the outset.

[@Desmo1]

@@michaelfallen1564 wait...are you saying that a manufacturer should be responsible for someone that's accidentally or intentionally getting too close to the silicon with essentially a razor blade, causing damage over time and affecting it's ability to stay bonded? If we're being honest, if you or I owned a manufacturing business of the sort, neither you nor I would want to be responsible for that scenario. BTW there's not a silicon out there that can withstand a scrapper being bumped into for long periods of time, nor is there a company that would be responsible for such a scenario if found to be the case. The wave makers are another topic however, I seem to remember reading somewhere either in an ecotech or tank manual to be careful when using a wave maker mode in tanks.

[@gunthersreef]

Assume all you want, but every RS product Ive owned has failed. Not sure how the razor blade would affect a light…a skimmer…a reefmat….a doser…

[@Desmo1]

@@gunthersreef I've had AI lights go out on me, I've had a Kessil go out on me, I've had Maxspect gyre's go out on me, I've had an MP10 go bad on me and that's just for starters...see where I'm going with this?

[@thombaz]

Those scrappers are really can ruin silicone, just as any blade, I never used them, but what is a good alternative at the corners?

[@jerrygalloway9805]

they use wrong silicone; cause its cheaper

[@MrGarciaJr]

Level seems good to me just like the last video when you actually used a level for the naysayers. If you guys want his glass so clean you should go over and help him out. Also the obvious extra algae build up in the corners kinda shows hes not digging into them. Have a little respect.

[@sootyable]

I feel for u

[@thepolishreefer4135]

Junk

[@jackrabbitslim6144]

clear the silicone. re silicone with durable safe silicone. do it yourself. theyll just band aid it.

[@gunthersreef]

Lot of work. Especially when it should have lasted many more years

[@willyvanroy3534]

A simple answer, and I’m sorry to say so but it is junk

[@Disl3cic]

well... if you know red sea is giving you issues YET you continue to use them..... kinda on you bud.

[@gunthersreef]

How was I supposed to know when I bought all red sea stuff back in 2019?

[@fred15]

Level is off and why is you're tank so dirty ???

[@danhenick7028]

Why do you keep ruining your equipment?

[@gunthersreef]

Touche’ my friend Touche’. 😁

[@EyesOnlyNL]

Just gotta say that your whole system looks hopelessly neglected. Almost looks like it has been left out in the rain for months. If you take such bad care of an expensive product like that, it really makes me wonder if it has been set up and levelled in the same careless manner.

[@gunthersreef]

Expensive product!! Cheap ass crap 😤

[@ColeTrain_0]

why is your tank so dirty? there is like a inch thick of algae you scraped for the video.

[@gunthersreef]

Hence nothing I did could have caused the failure

[@Chapterrifik]

Your level seems to be off

[@cyprusreefers6030]

Make sure you don’t push the algae scrapper blade inside the silicone! There is no other reason silicone breaks like this on the top where pressure is minimum…

[@neutronshiva2498]

It can happen if the stand is uneven and tank bottom bulges outward because there clearly isnt enough front support in his stand. The stand ia trash.

[@gunthersreef]

Or…the entire system is under-engineered and cheaply designed

[@SimonJamesBayman]

Get yourself a G2 and look after it properly. You wont be disappointed

[@gunthersreef]

No more red sea for me

[@eal1]

Or any cheap china brand, they know how to make a glass box contain water for over decade for a pittance. Not exactly rocket science 😂

[@chicagorc3967]

im sorry dont hate me but this is 100% user error! I clean my corners with a white magic eraser when i clean the tank and i keep algae and coraline from building up in the corners! I use a metal razor blade to clean my glass but a plastic one when i get near the seams. Then on the seems i use the magic eraser to be extra careful.

[@gunthersreef]

So if algae is growing in the corner, and has not been touched by a scraper or otherwise, how would the silicone BEHIND it break its seal? Thats like saying someone backed into the SIDE of a car, but it was the other guys fault. Did it levitate?

[@exbballfan]

The problem may be your floor. If you have a foundation that is not able to support the weight. The weight of the take cause the floor to move. when the floor moves the tank also moves. cause the glass to move. Its your floor not the tank.

[@gunthersreef]

Single story concrete slab house. House was built in 2002.