Blue Monday - Do Everton need a new manager immediately?

[@bluenose1744]

Yes,now. He has downed tools, feels like he is giving up. Get rid before we drop lower down. If we hang around at the bottom long enough, one year we will drop down. Hope they grow a pair and get him out now. UTFT

[@pf316984]

Absolutely think you guys are great. Grown up, sensible conversations and points of view. Keep up the good work lads. Mike. EFC supporter since 1963 😢.

[@TheBlueRoomEFC]

Nice one, mate. Appreciate the support 👍

[@DannyOConnor1991]

Great conversation. Thanks lads.

[@svenp6626]

To add insult to this nonsense, you have Thomas from the Echo waffling apologetics on behalf of Dyche. What on earth do so called experts think they achieve by suggesting that these levels are in any way understandable and acceptable. That no other options at all are on the table? When you hear that tosh it's no surprise that those representing the club on and off the pitch find comfort in assuming a position that involves abject mediocrity. Nevermind the patronising of fans, to whom they have absolutely NO connection though they'd like us to think otherwise. The club is an absolute disgrace as are those in support of this total regression.

spot on!

[@atarifan80]

Joe Thomas has received praise for barely being an improvement on those before him. The Echo’s Everton coverage has been a disgrace for years.

[@anthonymcguire452]

Branthwaite should be the first name on team sheet. Tarks is either not fully fit or plain crap. Keane is not a good defender, but is trying hard. However there is no confidence in the squad and the only service that DCL gets is from Pickford. Dyche has to go

[@ShelbybossV8]

Great honest chat lads...👍

[@evertondave5825]

Dyche has lost the plot big time

[@iandico]

Need a new manager and complete squad

[@EdwardYates-zv5si]

He has to go . Just a thought Carsley + Baines till the end of the season?

[@chrissanders1027]

Why would Lee carsley leave a permanent job to manage us for 6 months to be put out of work who in their right mind would do that.

[@jamesmullarkey3667]

The siren before the game at Goodison needs to end it’s embarrassing, is it meant to frighten the opposition? Which team could be having sleep less nights about coming to us. It says a lot about Everton at the minute.

[@martinjohncassidyCASSIDY]

Get him gone NOW.

[@colinedwards4815]

How is he still the manager !!!

[@deanward6731]

Absolbloodylutely we do!! Get Potter for me

[@rodross9625]

At fking last you finally said it, Dyche isn’t good enough. I expect to be challenging for Europe, we are Everton and it’s about time the club and legacy media removed that!

[@grahamprice4611]

Spot on Roger. 👍👏👏

[@grahamprice4611]

Great show, guys. I'd defo take Moyes back right now, but it's big no Jose for me.

[@missing_score]

i think the only way we move on dyche is after the takeover is complete. the question is whether the friedkins will pull the trigger *immediately* or wait until the end of the season. and, as discussed, is it even safe to wait for the end of the season? thanks for the podcast, enjoyed listening and agreed with just about everything. keep up the good work.

[@markanderson4094]

Dyche 7 wins in 11 mouths piss poor manger must go get rid

[@PaulSmith-yk3lc]

We've been boring for years with no identity just bobbing along and the odd fluke result along the way, enough is enough we've become a laughing stock and all the teams we face know exactly how we play

[@jamesmullarkey3667]

Roger spot on, Dyche not an Everton manager but the knife to a gunfight comment changed everything for me, Moyes raised the white flag too many times. Bournemouth manager does do that he sits with his squad on the week and asks, how do we beat these? Dyche asks how can we keep a clean sheet!

[@edgale1655]

I think for my first time I think he needs to go. Every week it is the same old defend defend defend and hopefully we can get something on the break. But, yes the question is who can sack him, who is in charge.

[@Haakonisak]

Pretty sure Friedkin will have something to say who they want as manager after the takeover so booting Dyche won't happen before that. To hire someone now that Friedkin does not want is utterly crazy. We can only hope they have someone ready to go the day PL are done with their delaying nonsense.

[@paulacaplen6758]

Time to get rid of dyche . Dcl needs to be left on bench give Beto more game play .to build confidence .

[@michaelfreeman318]

Dyche needs to be sacked immediately. What was he thinking leaving Branthwaite on the bench & then taking Ndiaye off. Difficult fixtures ahead for us over the Christmas.

[@TheBlueRoomEFC]

I think Ndiaye was injured, tbf. He'd been getting kicked all game. Leaving out Branthwaite was just mad.

[@gavincunningham4598]

Awful manager...fans and players have had enough of dyche ball ..he's got to go... Branthwaite Obrein and Dixon would all be in the back four under a different manager plus beto would be starting .. Why two defensive midfielders every game I don't get it... Doncaster passed us off the pitch in the cup although we won.....

[@Daniel_Barton]

We had about 70% possession against Doncaster. Might not be happy with how things are going but to say Doncaster passed us off the pitch isn't true at all

[@gavincunningham4598]

​​@@Daniel_Barton70% of long ball shite more like..they did bud ..they played better footy than us ..we are shite under this clown

[@guyrhodes431]

You have had Benitez, Ancelotti, and Kohman, Silva, and all these did nothing Dyche at this moment is your best man for the job with the players you have , Get it right at the top first unite the club .

[@RonaldMcminn-g7d]

NEED BETTER THAN a pub team manager

[@marknarramore4362]

Agreed. Dyche is done and takes no responsibility for the constant crap he is delivering. No passion in what he is saying, just excuses! Big Dunc is available at the moment and put him in charge until another manager can be found once the takeover is complete. At least he cares about the club and would get them playing with some passion!

[@mikeroberts6579]

Everton will go down if we keep that shite manager Dyche.

[@JayEFC1969]

They need players to put the ball into an empty net - Harrison, Beto 🙈 I completely disagree about the strength of our bench 😂 Dave Downie "Anybody" absolute nonsense - he'll be first to criticise the club if we appoint "anybody". Imagine we beat West Ham and then appointed a sacked Lopetegui 🙄

[@Duke46283]

It’s hard to defend Dyche when they’re putting in tactically inept performances like that. My only thing would be, who do we get in. If it’s Moyes, then it’s only going to stay at the same level imo. I think Potter would be a disaster and I think he would think he could get a better job than Everton tbh

[@niallhussey8023]

The timing is perfect fot Mourinho.

[@Joe-eq1ck]

@@niallhussey8023 Jose Mourinho is a dinosaur, he left Roma in a shambles and is now managing in the Turkish league. If thats our only option, I’d rather keep dyche

[@Daniel_Barton]

Moyes the same level as Dyche 😂 what a daft comment

[@theblues8840]

@@Daniel_Barton West Ham picked up 1 more win than Everton last season despite having a much more talented squad. Moyes literally had players like Bowen Kudus Paqueta playing in attack and they managed ONE more win than us.

[@Daniel_Barton]

@@theblues8840 what about the season before that? Won a trophy didn't he and the season before that they finished high enough to qualify for that tournament that they won. Moyes almost got us relegated before finishing 4th with us. You can point out one season all you want. All I'm saying is that compared to Dyche's career moyes' career is sparkling

[@JG-us9lu]

So Dave, let's him sack right now. No self respecting Manager would come to the club and risk a relegation on their CV. Maybe Mourhino , we could go for a young unproven manager, very risky. Obramovic backed his managers with money and earned the right to hold them to higher standard. I don't know who guy is, but that's nonsense. I don't like the way we are playing. I think that the new owners won't take the risk unless the results go bad. Moyes won't come back as interim he would be an idiot to do so. Bad news, we are not an attractive club for managers and hence we have Dyche. BTW you talk about standards and Dyche being only goaled keeping us in the Premier, then you talk about doing the same thing with an interim manager. We fd with or without Dyche, so no sane manager would touch us with barge pole.

[@charlesconnor6518]

No - the overreaction to the Southampton defeat is crazy.

[@apm1958]

Yes👍, moyes short term or potter long term 🤷‍♂️

[@MrJune1964]

7 wins since 16th december

[@TheBlueRoomEFC]

And three of them came in the same week.

[@theblues8840]

@@MrJune1964 it’s also 10th in the league over the past 38 games, anyone can cherry pick certain periods to suit their agenda. How about this crazy idea? Judge it on a whole season… 🤯

[@davidb9059]

Effing awful

[@Prodigy_Fan]

Moyes managed Real Sociedad after his sacking by Man Utd, not in between his two spells at West Ham were he was on the dole. For the record I wouldn't have him back. I'm old enough to remember Kendall's endless returns and they were hardly roaring successes so know the dangers of bringing back former managers.

[@JayEFC1969]

15:20 Does Rodger think we beat Fulham ?

[@niallhussey8023]

Nothing sums up the apathy ye mention more than the current clout for Moyes to return as a stop gap to "steady the ship" rather than Mourinho with a war chest and siege mentality to galvanise the opportunity for momentum with the new stadium. Losers mentality. "Plucky little Everton" is back enough under Dyche as it is! We know Moyes will be even worse at this, putting his own PR ahead of the club and managing expectations and pressure on his job. And he hasn't changed in all those years since he ran his conteact down - West Ham had the same turgid football and lowering of expectations only a year ago! Nobody else wants him. Everton, that!

[@niallhussey8023]

Once Moyes is in the door he'd manage expectations to the extent he gaslights the fan base into thinking we couldn't possibly do better than him. Getting him out the door would then be a challenge as we're far "nicer" and nowhere near ruthless enough to boot him like West Ham had the courage to.

[@IanSmith-s2k]

I've just put your station on I can't believe that your saying is it to early to sack that clown and his cronies hes got the worse win rate out of all the managers that have been sacked and he keeps his job Burnley was his level not Everton

[@daviddownie6360]

Who is saying that?

[@blueboy7589]

His style and play and tactics eventually caught up with him at Burnley and it finally took them down, only Everton could employ someone who will do the same and eventually get us doomed to the Championship.

[@tazulislam2544]

Yes …simples

[@jack4500]

Makes no sense not playing ndiaye in the number 10 role

[@tonycary7805]

Is it wrong of me to suggest that as soon as the take over is done he knows he's getting the boot. Feels like hes not arsed as he knows this is going to happen. Until the takeover is all done he knows no one at the club r going to sack him so feels like he doesn't give a shit to me. In my opinion he has to go. The players r better than what we've seen this year.

[@TheBlueRoomEFC]

Something does feel off. The mad thing for me is there was real momentum to build on from last season but he talked everything down at the start of the season again. This one should have been a breeze compared to last season. But no.

[@andrewjones595]

He needs to go sick of his bad management his motto is if they dont score we cant loose we offer nothing no threat all he hopes for is aset piece or corner he is a piss poor manager took dcl off brings beto on why not go for it and play tbem.both together he is clueless every game we.play we are drivel.he sets us up for a point everytime we played the worst team in the league and they still had 66% possesion we have become a joke of a club under him we are the laughing stock of the premier league get him gone before its to late he is making the players shit with his draconian management style

[@derekowen4840]

If Dyche stays, we’ll be in the bottom three come Christmas!!!

[@kingarthurusatenniscoach1415]

sack sack sack sack,,,,,

[@user-on1dt4mm6h]

ASAP

[@alanrichards5659]

He needs to be gone before Christmas and let a new manager come in with real tactical leadership and some money to spend

[@theblues8840]

Just what we need… another manager being paid compensation fees giving us less to spend on players. At best we get a new manager bounce until our players inevitably return to the mean as the poor goalscorers they are and cost us points. Who ever the manager is won’t make this an exciting season, it’s going to be a rough watch regardless. On the flip side we could do what we always do and get another manager that can’t fix our problems and then we’ll also want him out in the summer 🤷‍♂️

[@TheBlueRoomEFC]

We'll be stuck in this doom loop until the club is being run by competent people. Not even sure of Friedkin now given the way the wheels have come off at Roma

[@theblues8840]

@@TheBlueRoomEFC spot on mate too many people think it’s fifa and the manager is 100% of the problem. Tbh I was never sure of Friedkin in the first place, the amount of nonsense I’ve seen saying “he’s going to return us to the top and have us competing” is pretty funny. They’re in for a shock when we still have to sell Branthwaite in the summer.

[@TheBlueRoomEFC]

@@theblues8840 Yeah, no way we hold on to him. I'm starting to worry about January now, tbh

[@niallhussey8023]

Isn't Dyche's contract up at the end of the season? Wouldn't cost more than a couple of million to boot him surely?

[@theblues8840]

@@niallhussey8023 I highly doubt that tbh, given how much of a managers graveyard this club has been the last 10 years it’d be absolutely braindead to not have a clause of at least 5-10 million upon getting the sack.

[@kingarthurusatenniscoach1415]

I would suggest change ones mindset and look to a better life , I go down the beach I dont waste paying money on a business that with drain one finance. These corporations prey on the people because there are few options in leisure to enjoy free time after a grind in work,,,, I suggest leave uk and look esle where... Great show boys from sunny California ... I use to live in kirkdale real grim and wet

[@billyedwards6941]

He shouldn’t be in charge at our club , he’s not good enough for the top flight

[@EFC56]

Dyche has these players playing 20% below their potential rather making them better and built zero afinity or connection with fans. It looks like hes gone rogue and doesnt give f*ck now throwin keane in before JB. Things are toxic and he needs removed

[@RoyalBlue147]

We have needed a new manager since Howard Kendall (Moyes excluded) EVERTON need a system as a club not a different system with every new manager, this guy we have now what's his name ALLER- DYCHE he hasn't improved this team one iota, Everton get mugged every three years, Kendall got it right a bunch of nobody's into a team, Liverpool !!! the same system for the last 60 years. Everton DOH !!!!!!

[@TheBlueRoomEFC]

That's the biggest issue really, isn't it. For me, the club hasn't been run well since the 1970 league win. Should have been the team of the 70s but held on to Catterick too long, then made bad managerial appointments again and again. And it goes on to this day - no real plan, just see who's available and hope it works. That really needs to change.

[@stephentyson7662]

We need moyies

[@TheBlueRoomEFC]

As much as I hate the idea of going back to managers, he defo gets more out of this squad.

[@niallhussey8023]

​@TheBlueRoomEFC We need Mourinho! Ambition to thread water is not ambition and always has a negative result.

[@DrewBloo]

Why is no pundit drawing the obvious conclusion, when Branthwaite isn’t selected but is fit + Dyche is saying “you don’t know what I’m dealing with”, which is Branthwaite has been sold from under his nose to avoid a third PSR case.. Jeez

[@theblues8840]

You think “it’s an obvious conclusion” that Branthwaite isn’t an Everton player? Our fans have actually lost their minds 😂

[@apm1958]

We haven’t got a PSR problem, we’re fine👍

[@colinc4974]

Yes