Blue Protocol Is Cancelled & Amazon Continue To FAIL

Blue Protocol is dead and won't be coming to the west, but what does this mean for the mmo genre and Amazon Games?
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[@Geckoz]

BP died because devs didn't know what they were doing. I'm not even talking about gacha. They simply did not understand their own game.

[@mavrickabb]

First of all Amazon is not the maker of the game, they're just the publisher. This is what blue protocol gets for not having a global launch. You cannot survive in just one region or one country alone.

[@SorarikoMotone]

nah, surviving in one country is fine and dandy for mmo's IF YOU HAVE A GOOD GAME that can get popular. there's plenty of mmo's that are still alive only in their home territories because of that. Blue Protocol is NOT a good game PERIOD. It's worse than even NGS at its launch, add up how absolutely moronic their reps being acting...

[@Fezthe14]

I think it was all the censorship amazon wanted to do with the game

[@SorarikoMotone]

@@Fezthe14 the game died in japan, nothing to do with amazon, all to do with bamco

[@FlameHAZE2010]

The game wouldn't have lasted here either with the hack saw Amazon was planning on taking to it.

[@DeityVengy]

they use other regions as a beta test. the problem is their beta test dies. it happened to both throne and liberty and blue protocol. they died in their singular region cuz they were simply mid

[@maofria1452]

Live services are dying in droves and that includes MMOs too. It's worse in the case of MMOs because the studios are just sticking to the same tired tropes they've been doing for the past 15 years. The genre has nothing new and exciting to offer.

[@TheCarnivaI]

I’ve come to the conclusion that mmos are all shit and repetitive. Only decent MMO is GTA online

[@flyingthor2650]

@@TheCarnivaI you forgot your shoes sir ( gives clownshoes )

[@TheCarnivaI]

@@flyingthor2650 lol good one. Im stealing that. Still doesn’t stop the fact that all MMOs today are snoozefests.

[@gamezonereactions8388]

Amazon Games - Where games go to die, everything they've touched has turned to $h!t. "Everything WOKE turns to $h!t." -- Supreme Oompa Loompa.

[@allthatishere]

@@gamezonereactions8388 Wtf are you even on about? Amazon didn't make the game, Bandai did. The game released in Japan with no "woke" or censorship, and it still failed. The most recent update added heavy P2W, and Amazon had nothing to do with that addition to the game... I understand people have a hate boner for Amazon, but can we start using our brains little here??

[@cranknnutz]

The chance of new MMORPGs succeeding these days is so low it's not surprising they get canceled. Most players will only give a new MMORPG a week or month before complaining there isn't enough to do and they just go back to the same old games. Maybe if people lowered their expectations a bit and give new games a chance, then we'd have more to play.

[@LecorbakOfficial]

2:32 "because there was no PvP" meanwhile, Phantasy Star Online 2 still working as a PvE only game since 2012. Also Final Fantasy 14 which is 99% PvE. Also Genshin Impact, also plenty of other games actually.

[@Taikomo]

I mean I agree that it's silly to claim that not having PvP is a cause for any PvE focused game's death, but at the same time PSO2 is not the best example, that game's not doing too hot these days either.

[@jayoddity]

Wait, I am not claiming it failed cause of no pvp, just saying why I was less interested

[@SorarikoMotone]

@@Taikomo nah, thats the thing - by all metrics its actually doing GREAT for its niche. they get a crapton of moneys, problem is - there's rn barely any content worth to run besides leciel and nameless city, which we got only several years into the game. but the game isnt gonna die any time soon.

[@allthatishere]

Blue Protocol was completely undercooked on release and I'm not sure how you could blame Amazon for any of that. The game has continued to fail in it's own home country, and the latest update literally added P2W.

[@LordGank1]

Scott explained to Hartmann how hard it is to code a door and Hartmann said “oh yeah you’re right” the end.

[@edivaldosantos8321]

This have nothing to do with Amazon. The game failed in Japan and is getting shutdown there. There is no reason to Amazon keep the launch. It's all Bandai Namco fault.

[@jayoddity]

Indeed. They just keep picking duffs

[@Kelvryn]

@@jayoddity are you implying that Amazon should learn to see the future? The game looked amazing when it was being developed. I was fully committed to playing this game before amazon announced the censorship bullshit. New World isn't all bad. uuumm, what else is there? You might be partially right...lol

[@jayoddity]

@@Kelvryn they get access to the game before the agreements... They aren't doing it blind

[@brimstonevalar6053]

Next one...Throne and Liberty that p2w dogshit

[@hpharold23]

It failed in Japan, the issue with Blue Protocols is the direction they've taken.

[@sarpsomer]

They were too late to release the game; Wuthering Waves, Zenless Zone Zero, new Genshin updates are already out.

[@jayoddity]

To be clear. Amazon isn't really at fault for Blue Protocol dying, that is very likely Bandai Namo. The Amazon fail is about the acting statement and picking duff mmos.

[@Discospawn]

You should have used the Wayback Machine to show Amazon's original Press Release about publishing the game (the live-version of the article has already been deleted by AGS). It would have made it clearer that it was Amazon's judgment that was in question. They described the game back then as, “Bandai Namco Online has created a world of the highest quality with a compelling story that will build community and immerse players in an action-packed adventure." Also, it was originally announced as a Q4 2023 release, which is funny to remember.

[@jayoddity]

@@Discospawn I didn't think about it enough, I don't even mention the judgement thing oops

[@Discospawn]

Amazon Games saw Blue Protocol in late 2022 and said, "Yes, this is a game we want to put our name on, and we expect it to be successful with Western audiences when we release it in late 2023." The fact that the game failed so dramatically in its native region, such that it is now canceled less than 2 years later, shows how bad Amazon's judgement was when signing the game in the first place. It's more evidence of a systemic problem within their team, regarding their ability to identify what players want & what makes a good game, and also the amount of time & effort it takes to actually deliver a good product.

[@bonbarmandrink]

Saying Amazon will stop maki'g games because of money is the stupiest thing i heard this week. if they ever stop doing mmos its because they just bad at making games

[@Mind1e55]

since it released, and i remember it, people everywhere were begging for a global release they said no for a long time then it became "maybe", then "we'll think about it", then finally "ok we'll do it" but it was obviously WAY too late the game was mid and limited to ONE region so it crashed before even going global the last thind i'd do is defend a billion dollars company, but in this case, i don't really see how amazon is responsible the devs fucked up on their own :/ sad, i rly wanted to try

[@cheph]

i really wanted this game to work out

[@IvanPozoIllas]

Hello Jay, I suspect you put your finger on the pulse of the main reason being financial. Why Bandai couldn't come to a satisfactory agreement with royalties and any other vertical retention fee structure with Amazon. Amazon is like a Walmart always squeezing dollars to the lowest common denominator. Bandai comes from a different work culture and perhaps wanted to make more in revenue with this deal than they were worth. Finally the reason Amazon gave is predominately a smoke screen because of players x,y,,z reason. Hardly ever the stated public reason is the main culprit.

[@Drazyhaze]

I love your content. No bullshit, no fluff, no fancy stuff. You just speak clearly and to the point. 👍

[@jayoddity]

@@Drazyhaze thank you

[@2014-Solo_Lev-Monarch]

I’m honestly surprised that the game didn’t even make it to global, for an anime mmo, visually it was beautiful

[@the.virtual.universe]

This event, from the grand announcement of *Blue Protocol* to its ultimate cancellation, will echo through gaming history. It will become the benchmark for any game with a development saga like Bandai Namco's handling of it. Future delays or cancellations will be compared to *Blue Protocol*, marking it as the ultimate symbol of unfulfilled promise. This saga has become so monumental that it now serves as a chilling reminder of broken dreams in gaming, leaving me with a lasting impact akin to PTSD.

[@soloac3578]

DAMMIT! I have been waiting on this game for years. I'm so sick of this crap.

[@Erick-gx8qu]

I wonder if now i can play without getting banned using a VPN

[@ryuno2097]

Damn. I remember the initial hype for the game when I saw the first trailer. I was interested to test it out when it came to the west, too bad the game died before other players could give it a try.

[@neilm9400]

I think the lessons learnt thing is over played. Because companies don't always have the people that learnt the painful lessons, wanting to learn different set of painful lessons. If Amazon have been clever, then will have a back end infrastructure that is mature. With an opportunity to refactor any problem areas from new world.

[@Zawaito]

To be fair this fail is 100% on bandai. They released a game with almost no content to sustain itself and released it jp only even tho the worldwide interest in this game was really high when they announced. Leave it to bandai to take a lightning in a bottle, drop it on the ground and shock their consumers with it

[@KinomotoAkito]

the fact Tower of Fantasy will outlast Blue Protocol is like Bandai has an immunity to making good decisions

[@NgocNguyen-pv5oc]

I remember when Genshin players themself they try to force Blue protocol as successful to threat ToF as dead BUT actually Genshin players killed Blue protocol by acting dog shjt, while ToF still get nothing happen, what happen if wuwa, endfield, azur promilia, 7ds origin, project mugen, etc. are advertised as Genshin killer by Genshin community in order to repeat the same way on ToF again?

[@Classic_DM]

There are plenty of fun MMOs and F2P games. I would not waste my energy slamming Amazon.

[@ekurisona663]

name another genre that had a longer more painful death than mmos

[@cracmar03]

Zanimax Online .. learning. Yeah I have no hopes on that given balancing for ESO being left and right them not knowing what they're doing. I expect their next MMO to not only have bad launch, like most MMO's but especially ESO, but also I expect them to probably get eaten alive by vengeance from ESO itself. One studio, should never have two MMO's going on the same time. So we're probably up to situation of GTA Online and RDO again where the fans of older came to sabotage the younger until it's gone.

[@mavrickabb]

As a person who has played games for a long time, I'm in my forties now I think what we have not understood is that almost every game is a MMO nowadays. It's just like how I saw pretty much every game become a RPG.

[@johnboog4437]

I’ll now be switching my attention to Mabinogi Eternity.

[@Kelvryn]

from all reports the game sucked and instead of sticking to it and fixing it B-N decided to call it quits. The Amazon version would have sucked more as they censored the shit out of it till there is practically nothing left. Just a generic P2W monstrosity.

[@CascadenTV]

I was never looking forward to Blue Protocol. Sad for anyone that was. Chin up MMO'rs. More games on the horizon.

[@aimeedarling2249]

I like mmo's. I have just broken away from New World and have played Once Human for 3wks now, and highly recommend. You get slave-pets to do the wood/mining for you! -That's the biggest plus in my eyes. Quests & exploration are very reasonable. Group/solo/pvp. It's like it has a bunch of good bits from other popular games. No time-wasting obligatory grinds😵‍💫 More enjoyable 👍

[@jeffcarrier9808]

So will Blue Protocol be republished as Mobile MMO by Tencent?

[@Darius97077]

i was actually excited about this game

[@DM_Rid]

Like others have already said, I don't see this as a loss for Amazon. They were ready to publish the game, but besides that, it's completely on the actual developers. They failed to create a game that could retain an audience, but beyond that, Bandi Namco is already in dire economical trouble. I highly doubt Amazon has anything to do with the failure of the title.

[@SiopeR]

Nah there is just couple good MMO's and other companies can't make anything better rn

[@zenomaus3842]

FR!? This was my last hope for the genre ... F amazon games

[@Sasakyee]

@@zenomaus3842 And again here ; Amazon did nothing wrong on BP. Only Bandai did.

[@cracmar03]

Amazon didn't do anything here. It's the original devs who announced closure, so no point making global when game is closing permanently.

[@MikeyPaper]

New world is so friggen dead...

[@charlesm8182]

For the most part the mmo community are a bunch of sniveling whiners that constantly complain about it’s not done the way I want it I know best how it should be done and have pretty much taken the profits away from mmo who in their right mind would waste development time on a community like that

[@calvinel8507]

Dude it’s not Amazon doing… it’s Bandai namco they shut it down even their jp sever. Jp sever alr had p2w issues and its rating is quite not looking good boring end game and end game loot doesn’t serve any purpose. Amazon cnt do anything… if Bandai had green light for Amazon it be show in gamescon alr.

[@apolegetics2023]

dont worry Jay, new world beta in 15 days!

[@MyGamesterGaming]

I’m hyped for dune awakening. Hopefully it’s good.

[@soklagenhet]

NEVER get hyped for anything funcom-related. Probably the most incompetent studio I've ever seen to date. Conan exiles was a shitshow beyond comparison. But maybe, JUST MAYBE, they learned some lessons from it... like not going on weekend when the entire game is being flooded by chinese cheaters who uses an exploit revolving around a specific weapon, which easily could've been disabled.. but nah, weekend ;)

[@moo8698]

Just to cut this video short: Nobody played it in Japan because it was trash, so they do not continue to work on it. The remaining number of players are not worth to upkeep the game and has absolutely nothing to do with "western" ppl or the amazon. The game is trash and totally failed in Japan. That's the only reason why it is cancelled and not coming here. (They are not an inexperienced team btw, the game just something that people in general totally not looking for.)

[@wajirt6335]

What's wrong with people these days if the game doesn't have PVP then they are not going to play it 😮‍💨😮‍💨

[@jayoddity]

That's just my preference

[@wajirt6335]

@@jayoddity no not you i am starting to hearing from everyone back in 2015 or 2010 we didn't think about what's bad and what's good about or in the games we just enjoy and play with friends but now these days i am hearing lot of complaints people don't understand that no matter how much you work or try to create better game bugs will always be there and some things will be not in the game some features will be not be in the game cause that's how it's works

[@eam2564]

Throne and Liberty won the debate, furries are mad lol

[@actosh7670]

AGS will fail as well with bigger ip's. Sad truth

[@darkoni95]

Now we know the new lord of the ring game going flop now thx to BP be cancelled

[@MorcegoYar]

new world have a chance of come back with console, hope they make it rigth this time

[@THE_REAL_MISFIT]

I'm kinda looking forward to The Quinfall, even though I'm highly skeptical about the quality. I think any MMO that can manage to successfully have a go at BDO will be good. I'm moreso looking forward to Crimson Desert (IF) it has full co-op. I feel like that's a game me and my girl can play for a good while. Right now we're kinda stuck playing RDR2 and I'd love a game with so many similarities + a ton of Lifeskilling.

[@maofria1452]

Crimson Desert will be a single player action adventure game. Not coop or a RPG

[@THE_REAL_MISFIT]

From what I've read online, it will include co-op; and the definition of RPG has been stretched in all kinds of ways these days. Technically, the Witcher series aren't RPG's either.

[@maofria1452]

@@THE_REAL_MISFIT Fextralife played Crisom Desert and released a video today with their impressions. I recommend checking it out. The title is "Crimson Desert IS NOT What You Think! I PLAYED IT! Here's What You Need to Know!" The Witcher series is definitely an RPG. The fact that MC is already an established character doesn't change that. The same can be said of the Mas Effect trilogy, for example.

[@THE_REAL_MISFIT]

Yep. I watched the video. It's hard to take one person's definition on what qualifies as an RPG. I play Black Desert, so I'm pretty sure I know what to expect (Black Desert 1.5)

[@maofria1452]

@@THE_REAL_MISFIT You're right, so many games these days have RPG elements that the definition can be a bit hazy. I play BDO too and the video gave me the impression that the skill system and other things are more simplified than the MMO. It seems so that will be another game focused more on capturing the attention of casuals than delving into complex systems. BDO itself is moving in that direction. Interesting that MC uses part of the succession warrior's moveset with improved animations and effects. I wanted a single player game of the class sorcerer with that production value too lol

[@NgocNguyen-pv5oc]

I remember when Genshin players themself they try to force Blue protocol as successful to threat ToF as dead BUT actually Genshin players killed Blue protocol by acting dog shjt, while ToF still get nothing happen, what happen if wuwa, endfield, azur promilia, 7ds origin, project mugen, etc. are advertised as Genshin killer by Genshin community in order to repeat the same way on ToF again?

[@SorarikoMotone]

stop blaming genshin players for fk ups by bamco, bro. game came out trash and nobody wants to play trash

[@ricku7765]

Also that's why the word "genshin killer" was born back then, because when these games got trailers they want to pissed of genshin players even tho it's not the same genra. I got hype of this game too after the trailers, after like 2 years of waiting my hype died out.

[@SorarikoMotone]

@@ricku7765 genshin killer was born by people who left genshin for various reasons and hated that genshin was successful, and wanted a game to kill it. Stop this nonsense please.

[@coopidon]

New mmo’s are not gonna make it because they are shit. Nice graphics, shit gameplay, pay to win and pay for convenience. Then there is the player base who is no longer into mmo’s. Dads don’t have time to play this genre anymore and the kids are into amongus, leagueofgarbage, pubg, forttiktok.

[@thomasm.2360]

mmos are for old people(30-40+)

[@Tavis_aka_Kalik]

Back to ESO... some BDO and randomly NW.... my trio

[@sirbonobo3907]

Gacha Games can die No loss.

[@snigelskit]

thank god.

[@Sasakyee]

Amazon continue to fail? It's not Amazon's fault though for BP. Blue Protocol was just dead 1m after its launch, lol

[@jayoddity]

I'm mostly talking about the voice acting statement, not that AGS hurt BP

[@Sasakyee]

@@jayoddity Yeah, I wasn't talking about that only ngl. But imo, Amazon don't fail that much. Sure, Lost Ark and New World didn't become as big as expected, but I wouldn't call them fail, honestly, when I compare to other competitors. (Well outside of the big big ones lmao)

[@zenomaus3842]

@@Sasakyee The Dellusion is insane here. Lost Ark and New World could have been the next big thing. Look at them now.

[@Sasakyee]

@@zenomaus3842 I look at them and I see they're doing. That's the thing. No, I'm not delusioned. As I did say, they could have been bigger. That's a thing. But regardless of that, they actually did fine. Also, honestly, peeps are saying it's Amazon there and all, but no. Another publishers would have ended the same. Both games had Big shortcomings, LA had shortcomings regarding global population. And Amazon definitely actually solved some on them. Plus, another publisher wouldn't have had the marketing power Amazon had anyway. So yeah, they could have been bigger. But both had core issues, not tied to Amazon. And regardless of that. They're still holding up. Their current numbers might be weak compared of what it could have been, the fact is that in the current MMO scene, they're okay. (And way higher than BP too lol)

[@Sasakyee]

@@zenomaus3842 Idk where my answer went lmao. But no. I'm not. Yes they were awaited. Yes they could've been bigger. But eventually, they didn't fail either. That's the thing. The numbers can't be considered a fail in nowadays scene. It's just not a hit. Still, it's doing fine. It's not the next FF14 or WoW, lol.

[@Grumpskin]

Brighter shores 🎉

[@HwntMV]

Just by the title, it is hella misleading. You should probably change it.

[@jayoddity]

How?

[@HwntMV]

@@jayoddity Lack of context that creates misinterpretation. When I first read it, I thought BP getting cancelled got to do with Amazon's end. Then look at your video for the first few minutes and realized its the game shutting down.

[@jayoddity]

@@HwntMV ooo not intentionally implied, I see your point though

[@fatjay9402]

Lol AGS

[@thenightingale7405]

You should delete this video. This had nothing to do with Amazon. It's basically misinformation.

[@jayoddity]

I'm taking about the Amazon guy saying about acting and obviously Amazon pick the games they want to publish.... In no way am I saying Amazon killed the game

[@jayoddity]

And it would just take a re titling but I ain't got anything better yet