Bluetti has their Black Friday sale coming up, keep an eye out for the best prices of the year!
@jimdaly50772 жыл бұрын
Thank you I will, although the big deals don’t always get to the UK.🐝🙃
@blackbalerion2 жыл бұрын
Great video and useful information! Thx a lot! I actually think about getting the AC200MAX... Do you know of increased malfunctions of the Bluettis' touch screens?
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
@@blackbalerion I haven't seen any issues with my screens at all. I also don't have viewer telling me of their issues with the displays. I think they are fairly dependable.
@gwashburn392 жыл бұрын
I have the AC200Maxx and 2 B300's ;) They got enough of my money this year 🙃
@blackbalerion2 жыл бұрын
@yeshuas child2022 thx for your feedback - I chose EF Delta 2 because of the screen issues... seems I did the right thing...
@dancarney1062 жыл бұрын
Jason, Bluetti or EcoFlow should offer you a salaried position in their company. You have proven you know the customers wants and you can present the product. You also understand the technology and can interface with design engineers in the development of product. This presentation of these three Bluetti products proves your abilities. Thank you.
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dan! I have had 4 or 5 companies reach out and ask about my feedback about their new products they are developing. I'll see if my feedback helps them create the ULTIMATE power station! Also, EcoFlow offered to fly me out to their CES 2023 presentation in January next year. While there I'd be able to visit the booths of many of these companies to see whats new!
@litnoregrets75512 жыл бұрын
These are great units. Thank you for your review. Comparison reviews are the best because people often do tests different, but when you do them at the same time, it really gives some great information. Thank you for all the time and effort you put into these.
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to stick to a testing standard so each power station I test has an equal playing field. Thanks for commenting!
2 жыл бұрын
Jason, thank you for your honesty on the support issues! That is not to say that Bluetti need to say bad about it, instead they should say "thank you" and take action and fix it so that everyone is happy! In my case I am heading in the direction of turning our home off grid and you need to be able to get a hold of support and get the unit fixed swiftly as a family is depending on it.. Perhaps I will need to divide up my system between multiple units only for that above reason and have a bit more piece of mind.. Thanks again! Adrian
@Speed000072 жыл бұрын
Great review dude! You have the best comparison videos for the Bluetti power stations. I ended up going with the AC200MAX. The extra features on that unit is totally worth it.
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Speeeeed! You made a great choice!
@heatherk8931 Жыл бұрын
Were you able to get it set up?
@garyhorne4739 Жыл бұрын
Jason, Very good and thorough reviews. I have been trying to reach Bluetti customer service for their recommendations on several occasions with no answer. They asked me to leave a voicemail and would return my call. That was 2 weeks ago and have never received a call back! That concerns me for spending this type of money on a highly technical product purchased to use in an possible emergency situation. Thank you for the great comparison head to head!
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
Check out the Anker 767 or the Ecoflow Delta 2 Max instead. I have videos on both of those options and their support is much better.
@94Civic072 жыл бұрын
This is the best Bluetti large unit comparison and now I know which unit I’m going to buy with my hard earn money. I love your review videos; keep up the awesome review that you do Jason.
@abbeyjane13062 жыл бұрын
I have an AC200P and an EB3A with PV200 and SP120 panels. No issues at all. Thanks for the excellent video.
@marilynrenaud18922 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! I was able to get my AC200MAX for $1499. with Bluetti's Black Friday sale.😁 So glad I did!👍
@FidoHouse Жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this. I bought an AC200P a couple of years ago. Glad it's not all bad.
@pierredenommee1370 Жыл бұрын
You did a fantastic job on demonstrating the difference in the unit's.
@hughmacgregor5435 Жыл бұрын
That was brilliant. I have covid and have been stuck in bed studying these solar generators over the last few days. I began knowing nothing. I became very confused. Until I watched your presentation. Now I will order the Bluetti ac200max. I require one for my small motorhome. But I do not use it often however still require off grid camping. So I will also use the Bluetti to power my pool pump at home...just to begin with. We pay around 30 to 38 cents a kilowatt here in Sydney Australia. So this will start to pay for itself. My electric bill is around $700 per quarter. I may keep building on the Bluetti with extra batteries and bring my electric bill down to $150 to $200 per quarter. Perhaps even go off grid one day. The beauty of these things is I can take it with me if I move house or rent my house out or sell it. Try doing that with those permanent solar panels you sign up to for 7 years. And by then there ready to be junked if they don't blow off your roof or catch fire like many have done over here. Then they are supposed to be checked and serviced by a highfalutin specialist that rolls up in a Ferrari. The other thing is my electric bill will be $800 per quarter next year. Anyway thanks again for a brilliant presentation. Cheers.
@djfglobal3377 Жыл бұрын
Hope you’ve beat the covid blues buddy, how are you liking the ac 200 max? I’m thinking of getting the same unit for my van and to power some tools
@martinmcdonald585 Жыл бұрын
I HAVE AN AC200P & AC200MAX. GREAT PRESENTATION. TX & GOD BLESS
@locascioantonino Жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas, and a happy new year my friend
@kenjuicekrajewski957711 ай бұрын
Outstanding best review now i know what to get for my cabin
@valster62542 жыл бұрын
A lot of work. Great job Jasonoid.
@tracycaldwell1736 Жыл бұрын
The best I've seen and real questions about one's home answered. Thank you!
@keepsmiling1484 Жыл бұрын
Very well presented and reinforces my decision today to order the ac200max! Thx for sharing.
@cali-electro-dad Жыл бұрын
AWSOME head-to-head review. Hit all the points I needed to know. Only wish I'd watched it before purchasing the AC200P.
@wmike8162 Жыл бұрын
Just ordered the max based on your review, thanks
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
You'll enjoy the Max, definitely some great upgrades over the other two options.
@wmike8162 Жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid prices have dropped too.
@briant22592 жыл бұрын
In May 2022 I bought the AC300 and B300 and their email response was within 48 hours for my 4 emails I sent them. But a month ago the AC300 shorted out inside. Sent an email on a Monday no response, phone just rings. But they do weekly live sales on Facebook and KZbin. So I did a live comment during broadcast and their customer support directed me to message them in Facebook, I gave them the order number and what happened and they would get back to me. A few days later on their next live sale I messaged them on Facebook asking what the status was. They apologized and said hold on. Then I got an email response to my original email. From that point on it went as expected, she sent an RGA, I returned it to NV. Then they sent me a new unit. The process took a couple weeks and I had to be a squeaky wheel but all in all I am satisfied with the result. You spend thousands or ten thousand $ with them their customer support could use improvement. It is a fantastic product I just hope they don't lose their edge with less then great customer support.
@Kharizmah4 ай бұрын
Weird. I’ve found their customer service to be excellent, especially if you just call them. Certainly better than EcoFlow. I’d be willing to bet that the B300 caused the short in your AC300 as it shorted out my AC200 then later died. I’ve traded it in and am sitting with a credit
@rob85402 жыл бұрын
Great to see the 3 big ones near each other. Thanks,
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
It was a fun video to do!
@CMills86742 жыл бұрын
Thank you, excellent review as usual. I sent an email to Bluetti about the AC200 Max to to confirm if it performs pass thru charging or if it has UPS functionality, they did not respond…however, you answered my question. Thank you
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
Hey Chris, these all support pass through charging but not UPS functionality. Glad you found the video to be helpful!
@riftgod61692 жыл бұрын
Thank you for testing idle drain!
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Most other channels don't talk about it. It's a big factor in which model you'd want to go with!
@f0915372 жыл бұрын
For a more accurate test for the idle power consumption especially for the AC200MAX you should discharge it to zero after the 10 hour idle test to see how much actual energy is left and subtract that from the actual capacity test. The EcoFlow Delta for example draws 3 watts when idle with the DC output on even though the SoC meter indicates 100% even after 24 hours.
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! Great tip.
@user--PM2 жыл бұрын
the max although a bit more expensive looks to be the best out of the bunch. btw i got my notification today! thanks again for the review video!
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
I triple checked that setting on this video haha. Had to make sure people were going to be notified!
@richardhobbs71072 жыл бұрын
Have been 'working' my original AC200P for 2 full years ! It is the main (stationary) power station & handles refrigerator, induction cook-top, microwave duties with additional extras of 8k room air-conditioner and charging a Nissan Leaf EV in short sessions. Charged by 3 x 180 watt panels in series w/50' 10awg connection gives up to 420 watts in full sun. Enough power for a retired senior with no extra baggage. How-Ever: have several smaller power stations for auxiliary support applications such as powering weed-wacker, soldering iron, computer video & sound, VHS with analog TV entertainment system, electric scooter charging, . . . . . . . and . . . ( of course ) my light-speed accelerator experimentation for interstellar transport applications . . . . . . . . . . . Love the power stations and PV panels ! ! ! take care, RH
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like it's been a champ for you so far! Excellent description of how you use your portable power!
@richardhobbs71072 жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid - Thank You for excellent reviews ! !
@johnx9318 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video and the spreadsheet.
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@ChefCrys012 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the side by side comparison.
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@dkillian332 жыл бұрын
I have several Bluetti products. Had a charger problem with the EB70. Phone service nonexistent and email response was slow and cumbersome. Months later no resolution. I have one EcoFlow powerstation and had a question about interference. They were very responsive, followed up and worked through solutions. Great service. Sadly EcoFlow has too much interference for my use but great for lights and frig. I am getting another large station and because of bad service it will not be Bluetti.
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your feedback, I hope they can improve their service, especially over the phone!
@shelley1312 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review of all Bluetti big boys. I had no idea that none of them offer UPS, which for me has always been a deal breaker . As always you rock and are very succinct and to the point. I love your reviews, thank you for your hard work.
@jstone43512 жыл бұрын
Great video. I have a 200P, and have been tempted to spring for the Max one day.
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
It's got some good performance increases!
@johntate52842 жыл бұрын
Great review Jason! I have the 200 max with the 2 b230 batteries and am 100% satisfied. The EB200P seems to be an enigma as to why it exists, especially with the rather high MSRP of$1999. I got my 200 max at $1499, but i have not seen that price repeated again. The bluetooth app and being able to update the firmware are really huge bonuses compared to the other 2. As i think that Tripp-Lite and APC make better high end USP systems (once you drop the SLA and replace with drop in LFP) than any of the current group of solar generator companies, i leave UPS to the professionals and let the 200 max power everything else when the grid drops and let my lone PV350 charge everything back up between the blackouts. My external power brick is appropriately being used, as a brick😃 Next up for me is one of the Power Queen 4.6KW server rack batteries at 26 cents per watt!
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
Great setup! You'll have to let me know how that server rack battery goes! I'm wanting to move that way eventually!
@zfontain19752 жыл бұрын
How is the fan noise on that unit?
@johntate52842 жыл бұрын
@@zfontain1975 Even when the refrigerator is defrosting, i have never heard the fans kick on and i charge at a pretty slow rate on solar and i haven't heard the fans on charging either. I think the charger for my EB70 is louder and it is really annoying.
@zfontain19752 жыл бұрын
@@johntate5284 your fans never kick on when running your 200max? I run mine 24/7 so the fans kick on and off unless I'm using under 150 watts then they stay off. I have 1000 watts of panels charging it daily.
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
My fans cycle on and off every couple minutes, they don't run all the time though. I have 550 watts going into this system on average.
@davidcarrico33852 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I saw a reference to the eb200p somewhere and was wondering how it compared to the other 2 so this video was perfect. The AC200Max is almost perfect. Two things would make it perfect (I’ll add a third though 😊) 1. UPS functionality so I could get some use out of it even when I’m not traveling and 2. If it supported the new B300s batteries (even if through an adapter cable. Then 3. I would actually love a 1000wh version at reduced cost but same 2200w inverter, ports and features, just lower cost, and still expandable.
@bradarmstrong5033 Жыл бұрын
You can use the b300 batteries with the ac200max. Takes the same connection as to b230.
@TieFly2 жыл бұрын
This video is awesome. I was wondering about each of these devices the other day.
@pvanderwall3473 Жыл бұрын
Excellent review, very thorough! Most definitely a pleasure on your grading scale
@campbellsoup49102 жыл бұрын
Happy Holidays Dr.J' Thanks for this video, I was just looking for a power station to buy for Cyber Monday and wanted to compare these. 👍🏾
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
The AC200MAX and AC200P are both on sale right now, some of the best pricing I have seen!
@campbellsoup49102 жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid Thanks Dr.J for the heads up, the prices were very very nice 👍🏾
@VintheValley Жыл бұрын
Thanks for such a thorough video.
@jockwar4 ай бұрын
great review I have a RV in Oz so the 200 max sounds the one for me having the 15 amp socket
@mmcg50432 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. I was an early adopter for the AC200P. This is a very good unit and the only negative I have is that the display cannot be seen in medium to bright conditions. In fact I have to use my cellphone camera to see the display often. The later units with bluetooth help with this but Bluetti needs to install brighter displays. My next purchase will be Bluetti and at a discount.
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
Make sure to watch out during black Friday, memorial day, and labor day. Those seem to be the best sales of the year.
@chitownholmes2 жыл бұрын
wow!!!! this is a great presentation. So much information and work was put into it. Cant wait to see the comparison with other stations. Love this channel ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@NatureZone1012 жыл бұрын
Great video! Perfect to try to get my parents to look into stuff like this. However Bluetti has a major fail with their CS issues and I know for a fact my parents would never buy a product with lacking CS and betting that goes for many newbies entering the backup battery arena. Like you said, people spend a lot of money and expect / deserve good CS to stand behind products.
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
Check out Ecoflow, very similar spec but better customer service.
@NatureZone1012 жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid is there a specific model that matches up to these? Thanks!!
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
@@NatureZone101 Delta Max (Lithium Ion batteries) or the Delta 2 (LFP batteries)
@NatureZone1012 жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid Just checked your chart and it says the Delta Max isn't LiFePO bummer. Going to watch your review on it now.
@NatureZone1012 жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid Thanks! Watching your reviews now.
@tonyclark66182 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have the UK version of the AC200P. The screen automatically turns off after one minute. Up to two B230 expansion batteries can be used with the AC200P through the DC inputs, although this reduces the configuration options and is not as flexible as the AC200MAX.
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
Interesting differences, thanks for sharing!
@ricecakeFTW6 ай бұрын
Just got the AC200MAX open box for $850 from Blueetti. This thing is a beast and the APP is pretty awesome. Use it for my RV at parks where with generator curfew times.
@garytrawinski18432 жыл бұрын
You can now use the B230 and B300 batteries with the AC200P. The power only goes in one direction from the battery to the main unit.
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's why I don't really call it "expandable", since it doesn't charge the batteries back up like the AC200max.
@scottfrost47 Жыл бұрын
Great job. Very informative. I would watch your other comparison videos.
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@jimdaly50772 жыл бұрын
Great to see the head to head comparison, it may have changed my buying preference. 👍🐝🌞
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
Which way you leaning? I'm curious now!
@jimdaly50772 жыл бұрын
I was looking hard at the AC200P, but seeing the head to head I am looking again at the AC200 Max,the side by side comparison shows all three in a good light, but the max looks to have the edge. 👍🐝😊
@bcstaff2 жыл бұрын
I loved the idea of Bluetti product based on specs, build and price. Unfortunatly if you have any issues and need to contact customer support you are up a proverbial raging river without a paddle. To say this company has customer support is a misnomer. They have a phone # that nobody answers and does not accept VM's. They have various email addresses that nobody responds to and when they do it is a differant person each time, some that have emails of outside organizations. Buyer beware you better hope your product works because if it does not it is a nightmare to get support or to return the unit.
@free2binnh Жыл бұрын
I liked your presentation. I have the AC200P and has been connected to my kitchen appliances, not the microwave and the propane stove. Pleased with the performance of the AC200P. The only issue is that I would like to expand AC200P to 3kb or 4kb.
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve, there a couple different ways to expand your AC200p manually. I made a video on the topic HERE: kzbin.info/www/bejne/moW3n5iLqd9ngM0 The easiest way to do it is by connecting an extra 24v battery or 48 volt battery to the charging input.
@baneverything55802 жыл бұрын
My power stations and big LiFeP04 battery came in handy again after the recent storm and power outage here. I was able to use my microwave and keep my fridge and freezer going and use WIFI. I run my lights from them so if the power goes out I don`t notice right away but don`t have to look for a flashlight.
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear your system is working!
@mommadw20102 жыл бұрын
I bought the AC200P and so far, I have been happy with it and because I wanted to expand the power, I bought the EB300 3072Wh and did not know it came with a giant cable which does not work with the 2000W system, so I had to purchase the adapter. I reached out to cust svc via chat and email and they responded pretty fast
@doug1olson2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, nice review comparison. One note though, I just got an AC200MAX and it came with the 500 watt power brick with the noisy fan.
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
Maybe they have both options? Weird!
@dinobernardi1702 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jason...great video...again. Heard same about their customer service. Just received my Pecron E2000 lfp. All kinds of issues with it out of the box. Not sure if it got abused, dropped during shipping or what happened. Reached out and within couple hrs issue resolved for return and replacement. Was considering Bluetti during my research and avoided because of many customer issues....second guessing myself but after hearing your ongoing experience with them think I'll stay away. Shame really like that AC200 Max. As far as the Pecron goes all the videos watched you guys talked it up quite a bit, hoping that the issues with this one is shipping related. 10 to 15 year Lithium Phosphate doesn't do much good if the unit continues to crap out after 6 months. Thanks for all your sharing.
@coperich10 ай бұрын
How are you going with the Pecron?
@cycletouringoz5760 Жыл бұрын
You can expand the AC200P. At least here in Australia Is the EB200 not expandable at all ?
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
Well you can "expand it", but not in the official way the AC200MAX is expandable. You'd just plug a battery into the charging port to transfer power and the expansion battery doesn't charge up like and official one would...
@gwashburn392 жыл бұрын
Same issue here with Bluetti support. I still have not heard back from anybody!
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
I hope they read the comments section to get this feedback!
@rthomsonvw7 ай бұрын
Picked up the AC200P refurbished full warranty for 599! Looking forward to playing with it!
@Jasonoid7 ай бұрын
That's a great price!
@rthomsonvw7 ай бұрын
@@Jasonoid Thanks to your code! Amazed that it worked!!!
@Jasonoid7 ай бұрын
Really? Haha glad to hear it's still active!
@rthomsonvw7 ай бұрын
@@Jasonoid Yep, it was on the maxoak site. I was just trying a bunch of codes and bam 599. I couldn't checkout fast enough. I tried it right after to test and it still worked but after a couple days no dice... Should be here Monday along with a refurbed pv350 @ $489! Hopefully these hold up..
@rthomsonvw7 ай бұрын
@@Jasonoid Code seems to be working again for me if anyone wants to try!
@sharpharmade2 жыл бұрын
Jason, sorry that I missed your LIVE! Excellent review between the three ... however, I just want to point out that the AC200P's capacity, as well as the solar, can be expanded by/with the B230, also, using the battery expansion cables ... (P090D-XT90, XT90-Aviation Plug). IDN if it will work with the EB200; although, I don't see why not, since they are so similarly built. #justsaying
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
The AC200p and EB200p are kinda "expandable", but if you connect an external battery does not charge back up with the power station itself. You have to charge it on your own with a separate charger. That's why the AC200max is much easier to use. The discharging and charging of the whole system happens automatically.
@garytrawinski18432 жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid I usually wait until my AC200P is at 100% then charge the B230 from the AC200P using the AC power brick. I live in Golden Valley, AZ where I get 292 solar days.
@sharpharmade2 жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid No, I charge mine by having the special cable hooked up/connected to a/my B230, which is connected to a D050S, which is, in following, connected to my AC200/200P. The AC200/200P is charged up first, and, then, the B230 (is charged). You charge the B230 (via AC/solar with a D050S connected), which is connected to the AC200/200P ... where, then, the AC200/200P gets charged by the B230 first, followed by charging the B230. No separate/extra charger used/needed. How it works, and has been working, for me.
@G55-j9z2 жыл бұрын
Great video, I'd rather the AC200p and if I wanted to expand the power I'd buy the AC200 Max, But for me I'd want the AC200p for sure, Well done,
@mchiovari8905 Жыл бұрын
Recently purchased an EB3A, had a question for tech support. Their phone number did change which was noted on the automated answering system. Called the next day and a customer service person answered fairly quickly and took care of the issue.
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
That's an improvement!
@michaellynas55112 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all of your hard work this was very informative.
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! My goal was to make it easier to chose between all three of them.
@andrewinaustintx2 жыл бұрын
This review is if not a home run at least a triple, (pun intended) From a truck camper perspective, I see a lot builds that rely on a Jackery or Goal Zero to make the leap into storing solar panel. I looked into it last year when do my own D.I.Y install and thought the Bluetti AC200P would be perfect. Here we are a year later and instead of my D.I.Y install, with the experience of replicating a solar power pack with separate components, I would call the EB200P a good enough alternative. Granted my D.I.Y. build has couple of performance advantages over an all-in-on solar power pack - but it was way over budget and not easily removable should I have to sell the truck camper at low price.
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
I think DIY is a great way to go, especially if you mostly use DC power. It's all around more efficient and simple. If you really need AC power while out and about, a power station is a great simple solution! They both have their advantages and I use both throughout my camping trips :)
@ivanlaboy2 жыл бұрын
Jason I reported an issue with my eb3a unexpectedly shutting down indicating overload with only a 15W (modem) load connected. Reported the issue through the app on Nov 1, but except the confirmation email I haven’t received no other response from them. It seems they keep lacking an efficient customer support. 😬
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
Someone recently posted that they have 2 people on the phones and 3 people doing email. Thats not enough for how big the company is getting!
@inomad1313 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had my ac500 + 2 b300s sense the first week of December. The delivery was much faster than I expected as it only took two weeks to deliver. So, good in them for that. I mistakenly attempt to connect the unit to my 5Gh WiFi router. My bad. The unit continued to attempt to connect to the 5Gh and would not acknowledge the 2.4Gh even after a new downloading of the app and a factory reset of the unit. The responses to my requests for service were slow (at or over a week each time) and I never received a satisfactory fix for my issue. The issue eventually resolved itself and I was able to get the unit to acknowledge the 2.4Gh router. (I just kept mashing buttons until it fixed itself) However, the unit would not connect to the router with the status reading--Network Status: connecting Server Status: not connected. Same as before with the 5Gh router. More than a week after my request I received an email. The email requested me to do all of the things I had already told them I had done or I had told them that were not available to me. When I checked the unit again via Bluetooth it was connected to the proper router. Yeah! I now had WiFi and full internet connection to my ac500. But wait. One of the things they asked me to do was to update the app. I found no option to do this and the App Store showed my current update as the one that would be uploaded with the app. I did update the DSP and now the unit acknowledges the router but will not connect to the WiFi router. (Same status as above) It has been two days sense I emailed Bluetti and still no response. Though out this process I have used FB messenger, email and app requests complete with multiple screen shots showing my processes and current statuses. None seem to illicit a faster response than the others. There seems to be some form of language or communication issue here. Their only responses have come for the sales department, not the tech department. The sales department does not seem to understand the situation nor do they seem to be able to communicate the issues effectively to the tech department, as the responses are simply telling me to do things I’ve already told them I’ve done or to do things I’ve told them were not available to me at the time. Bluetti. Seriously, stop producing new products and fix your customer service. If anyone reads this far and wants an update, tag me.
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
I will be talking to them about this when speaking with their CEO at CES this weekend.
@inomad1313 Жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid I would appreciate anything you could do to help get ahead of this issue. As my ac500 came out of the Indiegogo fund raiser, I can’t be the only one who has or will experience these issues. I really feel like I’m just not being understood. They are listening, they just don’t seem to understand.
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
It's a communication issue and they are under staffed.
@inomad1313 Жыл бұрын
Update: 2300 hrs US central time zone. 5 Jan 23: Current status obtained through Bluetooth. Network Status: Connecting Server Status: Not connected. Proper WiFi name is listed. After manually entering the WiFi information I received the green notification: WiFi saved. You’re now able to remote control Bluetti device. -- spoiler alert. I cannot. App will not acknowledge the ac500 if my phone is connected to my WiFi (5Gh or 2.4Gh). App connection to the ac500 times out. I must turn off my phones WiFi and set my phone on cellular network or no internet access to access the ac500 via Bluetooth. --this is unchanged sense to received the ac500. My case has been forwarded by Bluetti sales to someone with a poweroak email address. I was advised by the Bluetti sales rep to see that persons email reply for more information and to discuss the issue with them. I’ve received no email from the poweroak rep. I’ll post more updates as they come.
@carolannbest19252 жыл бұрын
Excellent review..very much needed comparison...ty. hoping you can review the AC200max and AC300 and AC500
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
I have reviewed all of them.
@johnvistawall97222 жыл бұрын
Excellent review Jason! Well thought and technical as always! Next item you should compare is zendures superbase v vs ecoflows Delta pro and bluetti ac500 .They seem to be the top dogs of the market. Which one is the best?
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
Great question!
@KYHill-billy2 жыл бұрын
I have reached out to bluetti several times & in every way & their customer service is the worst! I own 2- AC200P's & I have gone to their website to register both for the extended warranty & after you type in your info it comes back & says they will let you know if it excepted your info. Well after submitting both several times I still have not heard anything back & it's been over 4-weeks. So sad to say their warranty & customer service SUCK's! Jason, great video. You really need to do a comparison head-to-head with the bluetti ac200p & the OUKITEL P2001. that would be a good match up!!
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Phil, I think their customer support could improve as well. I think I'll do a "2000wh LFP" comparison video once Ecoflow launches the larger Delta Max LFP model. Not sure when that will be though... Then I'll do a comparison from 5 or 6 2000wh models to see which one is the best!
@myfpv68132 жыл бұрын
Really great test. Can I ask for some updates - additional info? like which firmware versions each of them have. I had few ac200p and I had like 3 different versions of firmwares - maybe some of them are more efficient then older units (and AFAIK only factory can do f/w upgrade :( ). I like that max got such low parasitic drain on DC, but did You confirm it with real each cell voltage? when there is no drain maybe it cut d/c outputs completly...or is it only "smart" firmware which wont update so frequently.
@robcadle32512 жыл бұрын
What will be the best Black Friday deal under $400?
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
EcoFlow River 2 Max with a free 110w solar panel: amzn.to/3Ast3nZ Right now that's not the active deal but keep an eye out. Theres currently a $180 coupon on the Max.
@MemphisMG86 Жыл бұрын
would really appreciate if you could show a small table after each test with the values! thank you
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
You can find tons of tracked data here on my website: jasonoid.com/powerstations/
@MyTube4Utoo3 ай бұрын
A great video comparison and evaluations. Thanks.
@garytrawinski18432 жыл бұрын
The AC200Max is $1599 on Amazon right now.
@curmudgeon_OG Жыл бұрын
Video suggests AC200P does not work with extra batteries. Is that correct?
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
Correct, no Bluetti expansion batteries supported on the AC200P. You can use a DIY battery to extend the runtime.
@curmudgeon_OG Жыл бұрын
Multiple articles and videos say the AC200P is expandable with bluetti expansion batteries but they can't be directly charged through the AC200P and must be charged separetely with a T500 adapter?
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
@@curmudgeon_OG yeah, their definition of "expandable" is by using a special charging adapter that costs $95. It is NOT a true expansion setup like the AC200max would be. The AC200P does not charge the battery back up like a true expansion setup. It's kinda a "gimmick" feature they claim...
@curmudgeon_OG Жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid Thanks. I alreay have the AC200P so I'm going to have to consider paying the extra I guess
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
You could do something like this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/moW3n5iLqd9ngM0 There are MANY ways to create an expansion DIY battery. Buying a couple 100ah LFP batteries and putting them in series for a 24v battery would be much more affordable for 2500wh of capacity than buying Bluettis batteries. .
@richeastmain40312 жыл бұрын
I contacted Bluetti through their email support about a DC charge enhancer which had stopped working. They usually responded to each contact after a few days. After a week or so they sent a replacement unit. More recently I emailed them regarding my EB55 and the responses were a little more spread out. It’s not ideal but they do back the products. I just wonder what will happen if the touch screen on my AC200P fails out of warranty since it doesn’t have app capability. It works great now but it does make me a little nervous. 🤞🏻
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
I don't see the screen breaking unless it was to be damaged. It is back lit with led lights so those should last a very long time.
@richardhobbs71072 жыл бұрын
Rich Eastmain - I did not want to 'smudge' my AC200P touch screen with Pizza grease fouled fingers . . . . so experimented to see how sensitive it was & found right away that the soft rubber pencil eraser (on a pencil) works well with virtually no pressure required. The pencil is not sharpened & occasionally I goof & touch the screen with the wood end which works easily as well. 2 years in using it daily as my main supply for kitchen appliances & no issues.
@richeastmain40312 жыл бұрын
@@richardhobbs7107 Good tip, I’ll give that a try. Thanks.
@gerardholman563310 ай бұрын
Best review out of 4 reviewers. 1/31/2024
@michaeljuers574 Жыл бұрын
All good fun watching all these tech reviews but some of you guys should review customer service and repair. I spent over a month trying to figure out how get my Bluetti repaired which had just gone out of warranty. After dozens of emails to Bluetti and MaxOak they offered absolutely NO options to repair my unit. Who on earth would buy something costing thousands of dollars when you can’t get the damn thing repaired in a couple of years.
@lucgauthier3201 Жыл бұрын
I bought an ac200p 3 days ago and I realized it has an issue on my shipping address so I try and try several times to reach Bluetti to without any success. Because of that misfortune I give them only one fade star for their crapy service after sale. I will think twice next time before buying from them😢.
@francisdebriey360910 ай бұрын
I have the AC200P and I am extremely satisfied except that it doesn't work when temparature is below 0° Celcius. I think it's the case for all 3. The "annoyance" of the AC200P is the power consumption when idle. My advice : buy the AC200Max
@Jasonoid10 ай бұрын
The AC200max is discounted quite a bit since they released the brand new AC200L
@rhackenb16 ай бұрын
Can a Bluetti add 5 miles of charging to a Tesla in one hour? This could be a big help if you come up short by 3 or 4 miles to make it to a supercharger. 110 volt charging in a garage adds about 5 miles in an hour. I have never needed this but if you are depending on a Bluetti for a camping trip and you come up short by a little to get you that little extra to a charger.
@Jasonoid6 ай бұрын
These have around 1700wh of capacity (1.7kwh). That sounds like it would give an electric car 5 miles 👍
@heatherk8931 Жыл бұрын
My biggest issue is getting customer service on the phone. I've had my AC200MAX since Dec 2021 or 2020. Still have not got to set it up.
@Bwanar1 Жыл бұрын
Any discounts for the expansion batteries?
@RedBatteryHead Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the test. I could do with the EB in my Van Build. It's not easily available in EU. And pricing is not much lower than AC200max. So I think I still need to go for the max. It's €1849,00 in Germany. Free shipping into NL.
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
The AC200Max is probably worth buying if it just costs a little more in your area. You get quite a bit more efficiency and features on that model vs the EB200p and the AC200p. True expandability is also a plus.
@RedBatteryHead Жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid yes, I think so too. Maybe charge a larger pack for longer journey into less sunny areas.
@Orionzdream2 жыл бұрын
I bought a AC200p from Bluetti off eBay. They claimed they went out of stock and couldn't fulfill the order . They had marked to down to 650 for a refurbished model. Sold dozens at that price and came up with a reason to cancel all of our orders. Different reasons for the 3 people I personally know that bought them. It has turned me off them all together. Might go with Pecron even though I like the BE better.
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
The Pecron E2000 LFP model performed really well in my testing, I just wish it had integrated AC charging instead of the large bricks.
@Orionzdream2 жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid I need a larger backup. I only have a cheap 1000wh Eco Worthy I bought for a steal a while back and a few smaller Golabs for camping. Looking for 2000w and more. Always liked the BE echo system the best but after the shell game that was played I don't think I will be buying from them.
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
Well I'll keep my eyes out for the next best option!
@Orionzdream2 жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid Thank you.
@harryridley2714 Жыл бұрын
Hi matey , would you recommend the max to power a very small off grid cabin with minimal appliances, great channel 👍🏼
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
The Bluetti AC200MAX will work well to power 120v devices, especially if you had a decent amount of solar connected. If you need to power 240v devices you'll need something bigger.
@harryridley2714 Жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid cheers matey , appreciate the feedback 👍🏼
@ivanlaboy2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jason. A lot of people argue that these batteries should be charged only to 80% and discharge to 20% to prolong their lifespan. Is that correct or in this chemistry that is insignificant? Any clarification would be appreciated. Thanks!
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
Since these are LFP with 3500 cycles I don't worry about the 80/20 rule too much. I keep them at 100% when charging them but I try not to discharge them all the way down to zero, usually 25% or higher. I think by the time it gets through 3500 cycles better tech will be out for cheaper.
@claytonyoung1351 Жыл бұрын
I see people can expand the EB200p. But you said it could not be expanded. Is the correct?
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
It will "expand" by plugging a battery into the charging port, but it won't sync up with the power station and the external battery won't charge up with the power station like a power station with a true expansion port.
@carbuff13132 жыл бұрын
For the ACMax...if one drains the unit itself of power and then connects a fully charged battery like the B230 or B300, will the unit operate to its full extent on the connected battery that is charged until that battery is then depleted?
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
When you connect up a battery to the AC200max it will "average" out the power from two batteries so I'm guessing it would show 50% capacity on the screen with the main battery at 0% and one expansion battery at 100%
@leroycarter71832 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the head to head comparison but honestly all these AC200 series power stations have a lot of problems and Bluetti is not doing anything about them.
@joet2678 Жыл бұрын
Awesome reviews. Thx you so much. Can any of these three withdraw and Charging the same time if I'm in a house wall or in my car using - 12v?
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
Yes, all three of these support charging and discharging at the same time.
@sharonkennedy8537 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jason..my name is Sharon. Brought the ac200max Dec 25, 2022. Was promised a free 30ft. Extension cable if I got the three solar panels. After calling about it I never got a response.
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
I've heard they are improving the support dramatically right now. I'd suggest trying again over the next few weeks to see if anything changed
@og65372 жыл бұрын
The AC is only $1699 on there web site but I’ve seen the EB200p for $1199 on Walmart twice.
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
Those are excellent prices!
@Sandro667386 Жыл бұрын
Question, if you plug only into the expansion b300 battery and don’t have any input source to the ac200max, will it charge the entire system (ac200max + b300, connected together) ? The reason I ask is because I see many saying that when they charge primarily through the ac200max only, the b300 doesn’t reach 100% charge because the ac200max reached full charge first and stops all charges v input for safety, and so the b300 gets left behind. So I figured, what if you charge primarily from the expansion battery to overcome that problem. Appreciate any thoughts you have.
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
You can charge the B300 completely separate from the AC200max to get it full. It has its own built in solar charge controller. I haven't messed with that setup too much, but when I did, I never saw any weird things. Sorry I can't be of more help.
@rondajohnson591 Жыл бұрын
Went with the 200Max and 230 expansion pack. One question, I plugged in the power brick to charge up to 100% and while charging began to smell an odor that I believe also contributed to the lightheadedness that I was experiencing . Today , I was charging up the 230 and the odor and lightheadedness is back. Any ideas about what that could be about. Contacted Bluetti yesterday but in light of comments below it might be awhile before I get a response. Watched many of your videos before making the purchase and like the thoroughness of each one. Keep up the good work.
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
The smell is most likely the "new battery" smell when the fans are running. I have noticed the smell is stronger with some power stations. That will go away with time and it never has made me lightheaded. Maybe put a load on the power station in an outdoor environment so it can air out better?
@ashpurcell3340 Жыл бұрын
Can the 200max run the caravan aircon 2200 watt
@brothergeorge34122 жыл бұрын
My EB3A that I purchased at a great discounted Price also had a failure then I returned product through store purchased.
@abbeyjane13062 жыл бұрын
My EB3A works great.
@chrisk93519 ай бұрын
Great job on the reviews and comparison! I have a question, I am currently looking at an AC200max and an Oupes Mega 2. Any suggestions on which one might be a better unit? Plan on getting one expansion battery with which ever one I go with. Thanks!
@Jasonoid9 ай бұрын
I am currently testing the Oupes Mega 2. It's been performing good so far. I will have a full review in the next week or two on that model. You'll want to check it out for sure!
@chrisxx0122 жыл бұрын
When the sun comes up and the solar activates will it automatically turn on the second battery in charge?
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
Each of these turn on with solar charging input, however the AC inverters will not turn on automatically.
@pfswalter Жыл бұрын
Jason would likee your thoughts on the ac200 max and the ac300 would like to use one of these for my wood shop and the biggest power usage is my wood lathe which is 13.5 amps or 1620 w.
@garymax9922 жыл бұрын
Heck the big boys are the AC-300------ER 500 pro and the AC 500
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
I have reviews on those ones as well, I use the AC500 for my daily backup, but these are the most popular "portable" units haha
@francoisg9154 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video. I would like to know, how much percentage, for you, will you indicate for the BMS parameter SOC to have got a long life battery ? 80% ?
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
Their metrics are usually based of a 80/20 depth of discharge curve.
@francoisg9154 Жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid Thanks. I would like a confirmation.
@tinchin6328 Жыл бұрын
Can the AC200Max be connected with the new B80, either one or two?
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
I don't have the AC60/B80 to confirm.... but from my understanding the connection is completely different and it's not supported.