F-16 Viper TQS Throttle by Thrustmaster | Review + Flight Test

[@markbeeston8145]

Thanks for doing a full on review of this product. I’ve been waiting for one since the announcement. I have this on preorder being a cockpit builder and I’ve had the older cougar HOTAS and Winwings Orion with F16 grip. This looks like a great solution for my full F-16 Cockpit build. I appreciate your well rounded view and assessment of the functionality. Thanks a lot buddy.👍👍

[@BluGames]

You are Very welcome . Would love to see the full cockpit when u r done

[@midnight7297]

While I've always wanted a viper throttle - dont get why they chose to move buttons around or eg gears not where they're meant to be - thought like the A10 HOTAS they were going for authenticity and makes that part useless if trying to recreate it all 1:1 in a simpit

[@Grayvas]

I am left wondering whether 500 euro's is a bit too expensive for what this is. That price point means that it needs to compete with top of the line products. Like Virpil's VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle for ~423.5 euro's and VKB products (Most expensive throttle version being the Gunfighter Mk. III Base with Modern Combat Grip Ultimate (with twist) & Omni Throttle Adapter: 238 + 345 + 57 = 640). Comparatively, this seems like a tough sell to me. But if you specifically are seeking F-16 style throttle for immersion, it might be worth the surplus to specific users.

[@zacanderson7539]

Super solid presentation, editing and format. Nicely done! Concerned about mounting this personally.

[@BluGames]

What are you trying to mount it to

[@jameswilliams1085]

Good mornimg Sir, Is this compatable with a Desktop mount? I know TM sell one , by any chance do you know if It is compatable with their one? Thank you

[@williamwilkinson2748]

I use heavy duty Velcro, wonderful stuff.

[@Av-vd3wk]

Total bummer Thrustmaster got cheap and made the knobs, buttons & most switches plastic. On the OG Cougar they were all fully metal.

[@Tomlin242]

Thank you, Blu. This was a fantastic review.

[@arroyo_Lt0]

You don’t need to stay on the gear handle to immediately get the gear up. The gear will extend/retract below 350 knots. Usually we count 2 seconds after wheels up and hit the gear lever then.

[@BluGames]

Appreciate it good to know

[@CommDante]

Good way to get your gear ruined in gold old BMS .... I don't think that's proper procedure, esp on a F-16. >_< Above around 180 it used to be your gear was ruined and wouldn't work anymore and would just be stuck ...

[@arroyo_Lt0]

@@CommDante The gear on a viper in real life isn’t as brittle as in these games. I was down at Osan for some time. I’m not saying bring your gear up once you hit 350, that’s retarded. But, you don’t have to keep your hand off of the gas just to make sure the gear comes up as soon as the plane does.

[@CrocoShite]

Hey! im concidering buying this for my birthday thats coming up. I was wondering if i could just set this up on my desk like normally or do i need to buy one of those metal stand things to mount on my desk?

[@BluGames]

Yes you can set this on your desk. You dont need a fancy chair. Thrustmast also has deskmounts if you want to mount it lower

[@CrocoShite]

​@@BluGames Sounds good man! thx for the fast reply : )

[@CrocoShite]

@@BluGames And also. i have a flight stick and throttle, i think its called x52. With this stick and throttle i need to put a cable from the stick to the throttle, and then the throttle to my pc. so i cant use the stick without having it connected to the throttle. do i just have to buy a new stick too? i wanted to buy the throttle in this video but if my x52 is like that, dont i have to buy a stick too?

[@Maceoneone]

In the f16, the autopilot switch is spring loaded and is automatically pushed into default position when an a certain aoa is reached with it turned on. Unfortunately that does not carry onto the Hotas making it a bit useless. The only good feature of this thing is the slap switch.

[@CommDante]

Yeah, for a piece this price, kinda excpect more....and although specific ingame requirement might be high -> Who is buying it? Yup, people that spend 50-70 dollars per modular aircraft...on a 15 y/o game (kinda forgot how long it was until I saw bootup :P ). Damn I feel old right now. >_

[@serge933]

So you are worried about a switch vs the entire thing? Find me a company that builds a close to replica throttle quadrant for an f-16 that gives you magnetic switches.

[@Pilotrick86]

I see you got one bro @blu that’s dope I remember these at the expo. Great addition

[@BluGames]

Yea i been lovin it

[@BluGames]

UPDATE!! Now Available: Thrustmaster Viper TQS Mission Pack: bit.ly/BluGamesViper

[@muninn420]

Any idea how good this throttle would work for games like elite dangerous

[@BluGames]

Great question. Should work fine as long as it recognizes it. But i havent tried it

[@AirMorgan.]

Looks awesome! Thanks for the great review.

[@BluGames]

Yea very welcome

[@AviationPlus]

Eyeballing this for Falcon BMS. Going to have to map some of those different then what is labeled on the base. Seems like great hardware. I don't need this I already have a Warthog and everything works just fine after 7 years. Thanks for sharing your review it helps a lot!

[@BluGames]

Very welcome! I tried it in falcon bms and it worked pretty good. But i only tested the main axis and switches

[@AviationPlus]

@@BluGames If I am not mistaken it is ready to plug in out the box no need for assembly.

[@BluGames]

yes thats correct @@AviationPlus

[@JLotG]

Does this work for two engine fighters as well?

[@serge933]

It would but you wouldn't be able to manipulate them separately

[@JLotG]

Do you know the specs for mounts?

[@TheMack]

Very nice review, that's the way to do it! This looks really tempting, and I have my old Cougar from 2004, but as for now I'm focused on the AJS37 Viggen module, so I will hold off for a while :)

[@BluGames]

Cool!! Well thanks for watching!

[@williamcarter8122]

Laughlin AFB is pronounced "loff-lin" lol. Sick vid regardless!

[@BluGames]

Oh thanks!!

[@einherz]

from 2010 looks like first combination that can be the competitor for x65f... this one for throttle, and realsimulator for joy... just 12 years:)

[@BluGames]

😅

[@DCMcF]

When you showed the throttle quad at expo its one on my list maybe towards end of year hopefully. Much obliged for review!👍

[@Txvfr.b]

aw man that f16 throttle is so cool but im gettin that winwing f15ex

[@BluGames]

Yea that one looks good too

[@sheetpostmodernist398]

If you're actually building a pit, better to just get the throttle and save yourself a chunk of change by building your own panel. It's got useful switches, but nothing is where it should be in the actual cockpit.

[@waschmaschinenfreund]

looks great, though I would like to know how it compares to the winwing F16 Throttle addon

[@evolgenius1150]

Im gonna go with the wingwin orion, no countermeasure switch on the wall but doesnt feel plastic

[@MysticRivers2]

What's your outro song? It's a bop, just like the channel. And speaking of, are you gonna review the new Heritage engine packs for TSW3 Norfolk Southern stuff?

[@BluGames]

I really appreciate that! I thought about doing a video for NS but the DLC was just not that interesting to me.. i might revisit it later

[@MysticRivers2]

@@BluGames What's the outro song? I Like to listen to a lot of outro music

[@mogumogu3686]

Excellent review Blu... 👍👍👏👏

[@iFlyAircraft]

Does thrustmaster ask you to mail the product back after the review? Great product review!

[@BluGames]

Nope thank God i get to keep most the stuff i review

[@amey4521]

I've been your subscriber since 2018 I guess. Good old days back when IF Global was out!. I enjoythe current games you are playing especially the Derail & Logistic Tours of F1. But can we hope to see IF streams back again any time soon ?

[@BluGames]

Wow! Thats amazing. Thank you for supporting me all these years! But no sorry i dont have any plans for any IF content any time soon

[@decky1990]

The nost baluable comment in this video is about needing a grinder that can grind sufficiently finde enough for the Flair 58. I went fron a PRO 2 to a 58, and had to grind considerably finer.

[@EJ109]

Excellent piece of hardware. I just may put this on my xmas list, LOL.

[@jamesmcd71]

So why would I spend $500 for the throttle when the Orion is under $500 for both.

[@DD-sw1dd]

The only thing this gives me over my WinWing F16 is that slapswitch……I want that slap switch but not enough to pay that.

[@0i1s_Boomerang]

great video however for anyone looking into buying a viper throttle id much rather recomend the winwing throttle as it is higher build quality for a lower price. in my opinion 500$ is way to much for this throttle especially when looking at competitor prices. virpil while for sure more expensive is an amazing hotas system and worth looking into. VKB can be slightly cheaper then virpil but will still set you in around the 700+ range for a full hotas setup. winwing offers great prices for very good quality. many people have said virpil adn VKB are better then winwing but from my experience it is not that noticable of a different honestly and for the price reduction that you get form winwing it is very much worth it. for those who want a hotas setup winwing is offering an f15 styled throttle with an f16 stick for around 380 that is very high quality and if you wanna spend a bit extra to get that f16 throttle as well that will bring you to 480. not cheap but from my experience a very worthwhile option that i can highly recommend. hope everyone has a nice day

[@AkiL-414]

I 'm waiting the vids Bro.. : ) Flight in close formation Nevada Map 😄 🤙

[@BluGames]

Been streaming dcs every friday

[@AkiL-414]

@@BluGames We doesn't fly togather last night ? was not you ? Nevada map ?

[@DeusLegendXBLN]

Nice review of Blu's thigh here. JK 😂 Very cool throttle and nice review bro! 😃

[@BluGames]

Like what u see? Lol haha thanks for warching

[@Pilotrick86]

Lol

[@aquamich129]

Great video with real expertise! thanks! but I am not sure about your negative point. The one fits all has it's limit. At some point, when you fly, you want immersion and to get it you need to replicate it. I don't feel flying an F16 with a dual throttle. Like you don't feel flying a Boeing airliner with a push yoke. Otherwise, you can push this idea and only fly with a joystick because it fits all type of plane on earth. right? now simulation is expensive for sure.

[@iammorpheus7345]

Looks like I am sending mine back due to as they say "abnormal input." So the tech tech team is going to look at it. I really hope they fix this. 500 bucks for my RDR cursor, antenna elevation knob, and about 3 more while throttling up and down. Let's see what happens with them, well let you know. I am nervous they wont be able to fix it and ill be miserable😢.

[@thejetfighter]

Looks a really cool peace of hardware...

[@twelvepercentitalian2511]

Looks like awesomeness.

[@CommDante]

I rather like the throttle itself, esp compared to WW, but all the buttons and especially the gear are soo weak/toy like .... they make little to no sense other then 'gamey'. Yes on the Warthog people often put switches to other stuff, but you could at least look ingame/in cockpit down where button was...and then use it ingame.... here it's just a mush of decently often used buttons, on a weird place.... imho better off getting the base and make your own 'THQ button's' with an andruino orso...

[@CommDante]

look at it ingame and use it on real device*

[@BluGames]

I understand

[@JT-or1on]

worth it!

[@BluGames]

👌

[@bjrnchrstn]

No

[@Malc2169]

Not much of a review IMO. I know what all the buttons and rotaries do having used a Cougar for the last 20 years. What I really wanted to know if stuff like build quality, button feel and accuracy, ease of programmability (not everyone flies the pretender sim).

[@UdemmyUdemmy]

An overkill

[@MisterEmoto]

Showed a lot of Promise until they went and made switches out of plastic. Completely unacceptable With Better Price alternatives on the market like win wing

[@bjrnchrstn]

Too late Too plasticy Too expensive Too light so it wiggles

[@AviationLover2111]

Now I see why It is 500 dollars lol

[@BluGames]

Lol haha

[@MsTheCops]

I have several Thrustmaster products & I like them. I'm into a full cockpit build now & I'm considering Winwing for the helicopter end of it ...I like their collective. I've looked at this system & questioned the use of plastic when other products in this price range are mostly metal. My X-56 HOTAS is mostly plastic ...I have no issues if it is of good quality & feel. However; Buttons are different as they have moving parts that wear out & for me ...they must feel of quality ...nothing is more disappointing than a rubbery feeling or loose switch. This brings up the question of button quality ...I noticed that the "heading bug-button" appeared to be very lose ...was I wrong? That would be the game changer for me. The base does little & can be cheap ...but if the switches & buttons are lose & floppy ...I see it as an indication of poor quality & fear they'll fail. Other than that one button ...it looks of high quality How do the buttons feel to you? Great video ...thanks.