Bmpcc 4k vs Sony A7iii

[@Jsfilmz]

GUYS CORRECTION AT THE END I MEANT TO PUT MENUS POCKET 4K WINS sorry bout that.

[@n123v]

but wait a minute... how you compared lowlight if they have a different lenses?

[@johnzuluetafilms5226]

@@n123v use a light...

[@saurabhkaushik3552]

great video..great content. Is blackmagic good for photography as well.! please suggest

[@Speeder84XL]

Nice video anyway. I'm thinking about to get the bmpcc 4k. Another thing that surpriced me at first was that the Sony A7iii claimed to have 14-15 stops of dynamic range, because I know that the dynamic range is one of the best things with bmpcc and have only seen some cameras in the like $7000+ range that have like 14 or 15 (among those, some of the Black Magic designs most expensive models). I have had the old original bmpcc before - which could only shoot 1080p at 30 fps. Even that one hade very good dynamic range when filming in in daylight or well lit areas. But it was rather poor in low light (ISO1600 was it's highest setting and even that was so grainy, it was barely usable) - which they seem to have improved a lot on this one. Then when you said the bmpcc does have better dynamic range, I taught "ohh, Sony is cheating the specs - that's bad, because they otherwise make great cameras". Then it got me - the A7iii isn't mainly for video, but still images - the video function is more of an extra feature (even if it's still very good). Like most cameras in this class, it can probably shoot still images in raw. So the sensor most likely has 14-15 stops of dynamic range - for still images. But, for video, it's probably less than the 13 stops of the bmpcc.

[@phillipbvnks]

"Once you go Raw It's hard to go back" I felt that.

[@oldrango883]

😂

[@MartinRMcGowan]

I’m loving how straight forward this is. No “hey what’s up guys just wanted to say this weeks merch is up/winner of last weeks giveawa will be announced/stick around to the end where we’ll be announcing some cool stuff you could win” to slow the start. Love it

[@Jsfilmz]

Hahahah thanks man trust me i hate that too. I tend to fastforward alot when watching others they talk to much

[@0ktav368]

"Once you go raw, it's so hard to go back." - 4:55

[@gregkeith6958]

I like it raw

[@AznBryanz]

I love eating my raw steak right off the cow

[@bobcoco6047]

I went for vegan mirrorless hybrids, will never go back. Well have to take some F-stop supplements but it's ok. 😏

[@Macmittens411]

It's true. Sadly. 🙃

[@juggalouniversity8386]

condoms are for losers

[@ModelsandMovies]

This is a difficult comparison because these two cameras couldn't be more different. m43 sensor vs full frame. Cinema video camera vs. true hybrid stills/video. A purpose built film makers tool vs. a Swiss Army knife of imagery. The BMDPCC4K doesn't do everything, but what it does do, it does incredibly well. I know, I have a Pocket Cinema Camera 4K. BlackMagic knows their customer base and they listen to them. Sony ALSO knows their customer base, but they choose to just shove as much into their consumer electronics as they can, hoping that they'll make everyone happy, and they generally do. But that's why their button layout and menu system is a mess... there's SO much stuff packed into a Sony camera, you'll never figure out how to use it all. I know... I have a Sony camera, and I used it for 3 years on my channels. It's a great camera, but not always easy to use. Certainly, the Sony is the better camera for the general public. But BlackMagic wasn't making a camera for the general public. They made a nearly perfect camera at an incredible price for the indie/no budget film making market. At $1300, which includes the full version of Davinci Resolve ($300), it's hard to argue that the Sony is a better value, unless you're going to be using it as a stills camera more than as a video camera. Both cameras work out of the box. Both cameras work on a gimbal. Both cameras can deliver great looking video if lighting conditions permit it. The BMD is just better at more types of video recording situations. But it can't take a still capture for crap. It can't auto focus continually. And it can't do ANYTHING for more than 40 minutes on a standard battery. But oh, that screen!!! :)

[@Jsfilmz]

i want you to think about my comparison like this. What if you have a sony a7iii and is thinking about upgrading to get into raw. This is what im doing with all of my comparisons. Is it worth selling the a7iii to get the cheaper pocket 4k? What am i losing, what am i gaining. Im not comparing these just to see how the pocket 4k kills the sony a7iii.

[@truemedia7557]

It depends what kind of stuff you shoot! I shoot with a Sony and also with a black magic in raw. I use my Sony more.. You are losing adaptability, you get huge file sizes, less battery life but a much better file to grade with. That isn't so necessary when you shoot it right first time though and your footage is just going to youtube... @@Jsfilmz

[@ErnstMorozov]

@Ryan Chai Do you still have of your decision? Cause few weeks ago i was thinking about the same scenario..

[@ErnstMorozov]

@Ryan Chai It is really next level in color science??

[@goddaniel9478]

@Ryan Chai IS THIS True? I'm looking into both but most for video and film! The Pocket is much better at video?

[@Pouncer_Fox]

Dude, love that no nonsense, straight to the point attitude of yours. You have earned yourself another subscriber.

[@Jsfilmz]

haha i dont do camera reviews anymore man got too expensive

[@pipopipo6477]

I don't care for the RAW but the BMPCC4K renders just way nicer colors (even in Prores)....

[@rockascreen1109]

It is obvious that the Pocket 4K is the new king on the budget market for video/film.Any Panasonic,Sony,Canon are already way far behind for up to 2-3 thousand dollars budget range.Just the feature set on the Pocket 4k is killer.Now the other manufacturers are forced to give more features for lower price.

[@ultra6401]

Pero solo para vídeo en entorno profesional de set o estudio , en exteriores donde se necesite movilidad (ej: bodas ), no es tan adecuado, ya que hay que "vestir la camara" no es tan portátil , sin estabilizador o gimbal muchas tomas se echarían a perder .... , ademas de batería externa , monitor externo (la pantalla es grande pero fija) y SSD externo ....

[@ultra6401]

Es rey para hacer posproducion y tener margen para etalonar , fin .

[@ultra6401]

i.ytimg.com/vi/ZwSM_HweSKs/maxresdefault.jpg esto es lo que hay que tener para sacarle partido en "mano" pierde mucho, la Sony es mas completa como cámara en mano, creo que el uso practico de las dos cámaras es diferente

[@madmixy3870]

once you go raw is so hard to go back..... never agree with a sentence more in life

[@utopiavalonis]

Yes. This is even if you never filmed in raw before. Just making timelapse video's with 12 bit raw photos and you Will discover there is some flexibility missing in post, even in thé 10 bit footage of gh5. 10 bit h265 isn't 12 bit raw unfortunately.

[@mateusinke4665]

@@utopiavalonis got news for ya...

[@juancarlosgzrz]

@@utopiavalonis hahahah

[@eanayac]

Pocket 4K looks like the best option!

[@estudiohertz]

What about the auto focus? How can I use a Pocket 4k in a Gimbal for example ?

[@OQ-OriginalQuality]

what camera did you record this video?

[@Jsfilmz]

bmcc 2.5k

[@tristianibarra1477]

@@Jsfilmz i see...

[@unemployedgringo]

One factor you forgot: autofocus. I own the bmp4k and the one thing it lacks in is autofocus, although most cinema cameras don't have that anyways. It's still an extremely useful feature to have, especially if you shoot weddings.

[@Jsfilmz]

yea dude i dont trust autofocus at all hahaha they are getting better nowadays but i made this video 2 years ago

[@Trilltalkpodcast]

Yeah honestly this has been one of my biggest turn offs at the moment with bmpcc4k. This and battery power, are making me rethinkkk Sony. I want to use my dji rs2 gimbal but with the poor battery power on my black magic makes shoots take longer.

[@unemployedgringo]

Hey man, three years later and as of today I'm selling all my Blackmagic equipment. For me, at least, it turned out to be a totally impractical camera for me. The lack of autofocus and heavy weight wasn't something I could get over. @@Trilltalkpodcast

[@gabrielmiller7409]

Thanks for this video! I’m sorry if I missed it, but which camera did you shoot your stand up with?

[@bofilmsdidit5015]

Was thinking about upgrading to a74 but I want my camera rigged out and by the time you rig out the pocket 4k it's the same price as the a74 w/ kit lens but with a better color specs and better post production value, right?

[@ejpmusicandvideo]

I really don't understand why you got any dislikes. Great job in my opinion!

[@danielemuna9900]

its cause of his finger

[@nordfresse]

5:10 the difference in skin tone is shocking here! I have to say though that comparing all the points seperatly isnt all that helpfull imo, size and screen size go together, so does battery life and codecs. You just cant have it all (yet).

[@Jsfilmz]

yea man sony is pretty close. Sony a7siii + atomos raw recording should get the job done. that would beat out the pocket 4k

[@darrellcheng]

is that a settings issue in the camera? looks like too much red in the sony

[@HenrikoMagnifico]

Got the BMPCC 4K but sold it after 6 months and got the A7C instead. There were just too many caveats with the BM to make it worth it, using it was a real hassle. Some of the annoyances were: * The weight and size, it's huge and gets tiresome to use for extended periods without a tripod. * Battery life is not good, 30 minutes at most on a charge. Needed to swap several extra batteries on a shoot. * Auto exposure is really bad and jittery, so it's pretty much unusable. * Touch screen navigation is frustrating when using gloves, so shooting in the snow or in cold places is not great. * Low light isn't great, mostly because of the small micro 4/3 sensor. * Not weather sealed at all, so it was terrifying to use it outdoors on a cloudy / rainy day. * Durability wasn't great, got a few scratches in my bag after just a few uses (A7C still looks prestine, in contrast). * Auto focus does not exist on BMPCC, so that was probably the most annoying thing of all. All in all the images it produced were really nice, but there were so many annoyances surrounding it that it just wasn't worth the effort. Maybe for professional movie production (which it was designed for) but not for anything else.

[@GoodGuysMedia]

Thank you for this! I never watched your channel until now, but I love your presentation and coverage. 👌Appreciate you bro

[@freejay3]

If you want the best looking video you need RAW ... and BRAW is coming soon for the bmpcc4k ... which will be a game changer I dont see that many stops of dynamic range in the Sony ... closer to 10 and the colors look oversaturated, oversharpened and crushed.

[@Jsfilmz]

Yea i did notice the saturation on their rec709. Bmd knows their color man. They did engineer davinci resolve. Hahaha

[@freejay3]

JSFILMZ ..... yeah ... their color science is amazing....I ordered an XRite color checker passport, which is compatible with Resolve

[@Jsfilmz]

i got this one. just sucks were stuck with rec 709 in resolve whatever that is hahaha. also they dont have an option for pocket 4k film yet as input www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LPS46TW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[@svbow6347]

You need to learn color correcting. Bro.

[@thatchinaboi]

What I would like to see in the Sony A7SIII is the A9 with all firmware upgrades for autofocus, 4K 60p (obviousl), flippy screen, and 10 Bit 422 external HDMI out. The low-light high ISO on the A9 is already good enough. That way it will be as capable as the top of the line full frame mirrorless for stills and as a killer full frame cinema/video camera.. ALL in a tiny package. Add $500 to the A9 price tag as a premium.

[@rodrigomacias]

The production quality of this video is amazing

[@airjaff]

Brave man saying another camera is better than a Sony

[@Jsfilmz]

I know man sony fanboys are tough hahhaa

[@stephenshevchuk2571]

Are people actually blind and not seeing how awful the magenta tones are on the sony cams?

[@chosenideahandle]

​@@stephenshevchuk2571 It's 2019, you have the control over your own colour both in camera and in post. It's one of the most commented on topics, and just as often Sony people will say it's Canon's cameras with the magenta problem. So, not so much people being blind as you perhaps being blind to people beating that subject to death.

[@treykeys2978]

The a7iii fixes the magenta shift big time. Sony colors are accurate in the new models. Colors straight out of camera are irrelevant because the moment you make adjustments in post, the look straight out of camera goes out the window. The BMPCC4k absolutely kills the a7iii though in terms of video quality. Coming from an a7iii owner. @@chosenideahandle

[@chosenideahandle]

@@treykeys2978 it doesn't absolutely kill video out of my a6300, so maybe that's a bit of an overstatement. It certainly has far better range from what I've seen, but it's not like most people here would see the difference under the right conditions. I'd prefer working with ProRes or RAW files over what Sony gives us for sure. Colours aren't accurate out of any camera. Every manufacturer has a look that's not attached to science, but to their brand. It's relative regardless. We're human, and see what we want at the end of the day.

[@smeegers]

Genuinely interested in your reasoning behind ProRes RAW not being RAW, as I'm looking to move to BRAW (Black Magic). As far as I'm aware the compression has nothing to do to the fact that a CODEC is RAW or not, but more to do with the fact that the extra METADATA is there to make adjustment to (what would normally be in camera) in post production?

[@Jsfilmz]

Yes that is why im not sure how apple got away with naming prores raw prores raw. You cant change lets say iso in post everything is still baked in. Heres an excerpt " ProRes RAW is only an acquisition codec and, for now, can only be recorded externally using an Atomos Inferno or Sumo 19 monitor/recorder, or in-camera with DJI’s Inspire 2 or Zenmuse X7. Like all things Apple, the complexity is hidden under the surface. You don’t get the type of specific raw controls made available for image tweaking, as you do with RED. But, ProRes RAW will cover the needs of most camera raw users, making this the raw codec “for the rest of us”. At least that’s what Apple is banking on" Its pretty BS calling something RAW when its not lol

[@user-fza3]

i would like to know does it support AUTO FOCUS < aND IS IT GOOD auto focus for natural moving speed poeple for canon ef lens for exMPLE?

[@Dani1977H]

filming negates the use of autofocus...

[@brunosavastano1851]

if you need autofocus then the bmpcc is just not meant for someone like you

[@afrank3029]

@@Dani1977H toooo zealous...

[@ElfTaleFilms]

@@Dani1977H Autofocus is a must have feature for some shots where the crew has only one person behind camera. Especially if the shots is even a tiny bit more complicated. On sets the time is extremely valuable and wasting it because struggling at manual focusing is a very terrible thing that can happen :)

[@skk6811]

The Pocket just has a more expensive look. I'd always go with that.

[@KingOfPi-CRAZYEGBONSTV]

Hi mate, am thinking of getting either BMPCC or Canon g7 Mark iii please what's your advice?

[@ivanoambrosifilms1993]

Hi, i have a7iii, which setup you suggest to me for daily video shooting with strong hilights and deep shadows? slog which one? and then convert in davinci resolve?

[@Jsfilmz]

slog 2 is my fav sony log bro

[@ozguruysal7459]

What do you think the minimum configuration for 4K raw editing in an imac must be? Any idea?

[@SteveMichalak]

The comparison at 5:10. Wtf? BMPCC looks really nice. Clean and sharp. The Sony looks like complete trash, wow.

[@Jsfilmz]

hahaha that full frame depth of field shows up pretty clear though huh. Cant wait for blackmagic's first full frame cam.

[@mphothejane7060]

I am tempted to go with Sony because of the depth of field but it really looks shitty compared to p4k

[@johnzuluetafilms5226]

get an ursa if u want ff

[@LetCreativesBecomeReal]

Does BMPCC4K are as good for shooting un-box products video and low-light exhibtion as well?

[@DennisOsman]

2:27-2:28 Did you see the small flash on your left t-shirt side? I have the same problem with my G2 camera, in my last project i had a higher ISO and that flash came too. It's just for a frame and the position and size of the flash is random.

[@ChrisChevs]

If you just started learning grading you are doing really well! With the BMPCC4k always start with your highlights, then work in the midtones, and then the blacks. I found this technique to really help bring out some more dynmaic range in my footage.

[@Jsfilmz]

hhaha yea thanks chris. appreciate it

[@aleksanicosta4472]

Thank You for this clear video. What about lenses? I started with the Canon 650D, then moved to the 6D MarkII and now I'm thinking about getting a BlackMagic 4k or a Sony A7III. It would be cool if I could still use some of my lenses. By the way, I mainly shoot Commercial, Portraits,Corporate Events. What would be your advice???

[@ZigHof]

What do you think about censor size? What are the pros and cons of full frame vs four thirds?

[@apeusmaximus]

Can you elaborate about the statement you throw in at the end: “Btw ProRes Raw is not RAW..”?

[@StevenDoesStuff]

Have you made any tutorials on your lighting/camera setup?

[@Jsfilmz]

man im pretty embarassed about the lighting here hahaha thats why i dont make much lighting tuts

[@StevenDoesStuff]

@@Jsfilmz Man what are you talking about, I asked because this looks like a professional movie!

[@Holtenstein]

The GH5s with fast full-frame glass outperforms the A7iii in low light. This is due to the dual ISO and the 10-bit recording. I would take the Blackmagic pocket 4k over the A7iii any day. The real issue is getting one.

[@Jsfilmz]

Damn that would be a good comparison Ill wait for the a7siii

[@trollashnikovavtomat]

LOL yeah right thsoe cameras dont know what low light is LMFAO

[@svbow6347]

Steve give it up. The 4/3 sensor on the GH5s is a goner. Compressed, poor AF and cheap looking video.

[@stevenuseda6317]

Steve Holt coming from someone who has owned both cameras I can say that your claim is inaccurate. I had a speedbooster and a sigma 18-35 1.8 but I honestly couldn’t get clean images with my gh5s. Look up gh5s noise issue...it’s horrible and because of it I sold mine

[@VforVallee]

Hahaha! Nope A7III in low light beats the piss out of the GH5s. I don’t think you ever did the comparison. I have and that’s very... untrue lol

[@MaikRap]

is this in Siegelbach? :D wish i could put my hands on the pocket cinema 4k to test if it´s my choice ....

[@shaherfilms]

best comparison iv ever seen so far, helped allot, will buy the blackmagic today, any advices?

[@PavlentijIvani4]

Take BM and be happy!!!

[@kahungchim6367]

Hope you can order one. They are very to have....

[@clubdecarlo]

I have a BMPC6k already but I need another camera for when I’m shooting 2 angles .. instead of getting another BMPC6k I might just get the Sony Ac7 . It’ll be for concerts so I won’t need crazy coloring . Anyone have an opinion on this setup ?

[@vladivalchanov]

Hello, can you please tell something about what camera you have used for this video? And lighting too!

[@Jsfilmz]

blackmagic cinema camera 2.5k the original one. lighting is an aputure 120 on the talking part and an yongnuo stick light for the brolls

[@DirtyTesla]

Can you compare the black magic to the a 6400?

[@maxkitaev3524]

Sony might have more stops but still looks like a stills camera in skintones and skin will fall apart when graded

[@sidegap]

No not so.... also compare RED & Arri cams with it...!!! you might get the answer for it !!!

[@orvilsmuel]

hello can the camera work with like nikon 50 mm lens , i have a 50 and a bunch of other nikon AUTO FOCUS lens can this camera work with those lens

[@nonamedrumguy1049]

What's the bit-rate of the BMP ProRes? I see so many reviews that give recording options, but no one talks about the bit rate for it.

[@Jsfilmz]

ProRes 422HQ: 4096 x 2160 at 23.98/24/25/29.97/30/50/59.94/60 fps (117.88 MB/s) 3840 x 2160 at 23.98/24/25/29.97/30/50/59.94/60 fps (110 Mb/s) 1920 x 1080p at 23.98/24/25/29.97/30/50/59.94/60/120 fps (27.5 MB/s) ProRes 422: 4096 x 2160 at 23.98/24/25/29.97/30/50/59.94/60 fps (78.63 MB/s) 3840 x 2160 at 23.98/24/25/29.97/30/50/59.94/60 fps (73.6 MB/s) 1920 x 1080p at 23.98/24/25/29.97/30/50/59.94/60/120 fps (18.4 MB/s) ProRes 422LT: 4096 x 2160p at 23.98/24/25/29.97/30/50/59.94/60 fps (54.63 MB/s) 3840 x 2160 at 23.98/24/25/29.97/30/50/59.94/60 fps (51 MB/s) 1920 x 1080p at 23.98/24/25/29.97/30/50/59.94/60/120 fps (12.75 MB/s) ProRes 422 Proxy: 4096 x 2160 at 23.98/24/25/29.97/30/50/59.94/60 fps (24.25 MB/s) 3840 x 2160 at 23.98/24/25/29.97/30/50/59.94/60 fps (22.4 MB/s)

[@olivierfichantfilms8614]

If bigger is better for the screen for you, how come you prefer smaller cameras since the two factors are unavoidably correlated?

[@giovannilidia6203]

Hi, I would like to ask you something more about night shooting: is it Sony Alpha 7iii much better than BMPC in low lights shooting? Could you pls tell us more about this aspect? Thanks a lot

[@Jsfilmz]

Giovanni Lidia gotta more specific friend. Bmpc or bmpcc 4k? :)

[@giovannilidia6203]

@@Jsfilmz BMPCC 4k :)

[@mctwain5319]

Image stability? Rolling shutter?

[@elaystudios7188]

What about Blackmagic Pocket 6K vs Sony A7III?

[@jkagwen]

6k and 4k are practically the same in video quality. Except the whole 6k thing

[@daniellediamond5314]

What camera did you shoot the part of this video with you talking on?

[@Jsfilmz]

Bmcc 2.5k

[@MrDeeb8]

Do you shoot in full 4k 12 bit uncompressed raw? Or raw 3:1 or 4:1? And are the compressed versions of raw better or worse than prores hq?

[@Jsfilmz]

deeb whats up bro. i try to shoot 12 uncompressed for small shoots, for longer shoots i do 3:1 i rarely shoot 4:1 or prores. Raw vs Prores Raw will always win as far as flexibility on post and maybe DR. But prores kicks some serious ass too. Here is a link of a comparison with between the two kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnzbi4yvrZJjf9k

[@MrDeeb8]

Thanks so much for the response and the link man, I'm gonna check it out.

[@thatcherfreeman]

With these Blackmagic cameras generally RAW gives about a stop more highlight detail than Prores, in any flavor of each, provided you use the "highlight recovery" function in Resolve.

[@eustreaming3874]

Great comparison thanks! Do you remember which lenses you used?

[@Jsfilmz]

contax zeiss 50mm on both

[@carlwilde635]

At 5:04 the larger sensor in the A7 smokes the BM in terms of bokeh and shallow depth of field. For talking heads requiring separation from a background it’s A7 and all the other stuff molested in post. Full frame Vs MFT I guess (Size matters). BM fanboy here so a tad sad - great vid btw

[@Drrezzin]

Apples and oranges...The BMPCC is a true filmmaker's camera, where as the SONY is more for commercial video work. Besides, who's going to push to that extreme level of ISO? If you're making a film, you're going to use lighting anyway. A lot of people use the highest ISO in their testing, which is way too high for most work.

[@leojames2050]

Side note, what do you think of the new firmware update from Sony? the A7sii does not have the new sensor like in the A7iii and a6400 should i keep the a7sii and get the A6400 for AF on 3axis only AF looks so good on it..

[@Jsfilmz]

bro i preordered the A6400 ill let you know.

[@markshirley01]

Is the Prores coming to the Z6 an advantage of the pocket.

[@Jsfilmz]

i keep hearing raw is coming

[@1337ghomri]

Why do you add black bars to the video? Can't you just make the composition the right format to start with? I use a 21:9 monitor, and i just gives a bad experience with both black bars on the sides and top and bottom :/

[@hiddenidentity302]

what about if you shoot event videos for brands who dont even ask for 4k? does it make sense to shoot BMC and then compress it or does the a7 3 look good where no one would even care?

[@Jsfilmz]

Arianas ex why pay more? Pocket 4k is 1299 how much is a sony? But then again i have seen many wedding videographers make so much money with their videos looking like poop with a sony. I havent made a single dime with videography so does cameras really matter? Its all up to you

[@AdJeanPhilippe]

Great Video but these cameras can't be compared. BMPCC is a mini cinema camera and the A7iii is a really really good consumer camera.

[@queenproart]

Interesting, thank you for your review, i m looking for cam or mobile to be able to shoot streamings and some videoclips also in low light and zoom for around 30m,what sould you advice me for?

[@FKfilmphotography]

Lol you penalised the pocket for being too big and then added a point for having a better bigger screen.

[@jeffreydsnguyen8091]

'' u penalised the girl for being too fat and then added a point for having a large ass ''

[@FKfilmphotography]

@@jeffreydsnguyen8091 😂😂😂😂

[@iviaverick52]

How do the 120 fps 1080P modes compare? I've heard that the BMPCC gets super soft at this setting.

[@NightmareFoundry]

It doesn't. Whoever told you that can't focus.

[@pillows666]

Lowlight is a bit of a toss up for me. If you're into shooting videos, i would not bargain raw with lowlight since i feel videos tend to be best if light adjustment is tweaked manually rather than going for hardware alone.

[@troyphillips1077]

A cinema camera vs a Hybrid camera. Two different beasts

[@Jsfilmz]

Meanwhile other youtubers compare a cellphone to a $40k red camera and get millions of views

[@Cris-tm3px]

​@@Jsfilmz but that is for teaching the people how they are different and why a cinema camera have that price. Not to tell people buy this or there.

[@gearreallydoesntmatter]

Its a fair comparison since both are viable options for videographers.

[@SantiagoMonroy5]

@@Jsfilmz lol

[@TruthReviews]

Excellent video. Thank you. Can I just how Much the lack of IBIS in the BM was an issue? I assume for the footage we saw it was on a shoulder rig or tripod???

[@Jsfilmz]

Gimbal is so much better than ibis

[@riseup_offical]

I hear the AF is not that great on the BM, how was your experience using a gimbal with focus? MF on a gimbal seems tricky.

[@FastRCToys]

@@Jsfilmz Certainly not. A gimbal is a horrible piece of mechanics !

[@realinsyde]

Dude thanks for this!

[@Jsfilmz]

yw

[@davetinoco]

A photo camera vs a video camera...which one should you use for video?

[@Primfilm]

I think one of the cons of Sony is that it's still have no 4096x2160 60p, or at least 3860x2160 60p... It's really hard to understand - GH5s has it, BMPCC 4k/6k has it, while Sony still don't want to add it... It seems like the same multi-year problem with Canon cameras and the lack of 1920x1080 60p (they added 1920x1080 60p only few years ago).

[@akapolkolko]

what lens did y used i think this is also matters

[@Jsfilmz]

contax zeiss 50mm on both

[@PlaybookVisualArts]

Its time to invest and I'm between Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4k and Sony A9, what do you think

[@Jsfilmz]

what type of shoots?

[@PlaybookVisualArts]

Its tricky as Im both a photographer and film maker, so not sure if to buy a camera built for video having good photo, or built for photo and having good video

[@aaronreilly7319]

Great video thanks for the review I'm sold on the bmpcc 4k again. One question what camera do you use to film your videos i.e. shots of your self and other cameras??

[@Jsfilmz]

blackmagic cinema camera 2.5k OG for this one

[@AGS-8785-D1R]

Since the Pocket 4K has a similar (if not identical) sensor to the GH5s, would it be fair to assume that the a7 III would be better in lowlight than the GH5s?

[@Jsfilmz]

andrew i used the gh5s for almost a year i think. i wouldnt touch 12800 on it. as far as lowlight goes the sony a7iii takes it

[@theamazingworldoutthere]

@@Jsfilmz thank you

[@OscarShu]

Another big difference you didnot mention, A7iii is a full frame sensor, way bigger than that of BMPCC, that is part of why it get better low light, and much more bokeh

[@DrRishabhGarg]

You can use speedbooster on bmpcc4k and can get full frame!

[@MM-gx8fd]

@@DrRishabhGarg lol keep believing you are going to get full frame with a speed booster 😂

[@DrRishabhGarg]

@@MM-gx8fd there's no noticeable difference between speed booster's image and full frame image.

[@JacobZaguri]

I love your review super helpful for me to understand what should i look for when checking a camera. But to be honest somehow I'm confused, I'm planing of upgrading my camera and it's still not clear to me what should i go for. my main use is macro photography, and i would like to make macro videos as well, and also shoot landscape nature usually wide shots. What's importent for me when looking on a camera is : color depth, photo res, and slow motion. What not important to me is low light cause usually it's controlled senerio, i can just add lights. I own nikon d5300 and all my lenses are nikon, but i can invest in speed booster. The cameras I'm considering are: gh5, canon d60/80, sony a7 one of the many version's or black magic.. Ill be happy to hear what are your thoughts about what i should go for and why. Thanks

[@alexdebono8026]

Well if you are looking at doing any still photography Black Magic isn't for you, they are specifically Video/Cinema only cameras. A7III would probably be your best choice.

[@dnazeri229]

Could anyone recommend a monitor that would be suitable to use for BOTH the BM4K and Sony a7iii? budget around 500$

[@Jsfilmz]

portkeys bm5. super bright monitor

[@Cyberwolf1592]

And the full frame sensor vs half frame sensor does not matter?

[@andreylebedenko1260]

Is it my eyes, or 5:20 is too green in P4K and more natural in a7m3 ?

[@hakondelbk3982]

Could you compare the X-T3 and the Sony a7iii? Interested in seeing the differences

[@Jsfilmz]

what do you want to see friend. DR? Lowlight?

[@hakondelbk3982]

JSFILMZ Mostly skintones and DR, but also interested in low light and sharpness!

[@Jsfilmz]

@@hakondelbk3982 world ill see what i can do man

[@hakondelbk3982]

JSFILMZ Thanks! Really enjoy these comparison videos of yours, good job man!

[@VforVallee]

The A7III is only rated at 14 stops of DR when shooting RAW stills. When shooting video it’s a compressed H.264 file. The BMPCC is shooting RAW video here so dynamic range shouldn’t be comparable. I love shooting video on a Full Frame camera however, I think the pro should have went to the A7III for Media hands down. Who wants to fool around with SSD’s on a wedding lol your SD card is full? Pop another one in. Plus there’s options for redundancy which is vastly more reliable.

[@Jsfilmz]

Ssd on tripod shots is the way to go way cheaper than cfast 2.0. Idk man lots of sony fan boys claim eveb 15 stops in the comments here

[@VforVallee]

JSFILMZ A7III uses SD cards. Shooting weddings on a tripod may be good for the one camera you got set for your wide shots but how do you run & gun on a gimbal or monopod with that kind of media?

[@ModelsandMovies]

@@VforVallee Um... with 50 cents worth of velcro tape. You're inventing a problem that doesn't exist.

[@VforVallee]

Models and Movies Omg... No, you’re shooting weddings the last thing you need is having to attach an SSD with Velcro and having an extra cable to deal with. Like for example you’re switching from monopod to Gimbal, then you go handheld and then what.. you’re holding the SSD with the other hand 😂

[@ModelsandMovies]

@@VforVallee What are you talking about?! You stick the Samsung T5 (weighs about an ounce) to your camera and that's it. Maybe 3 hours later, you swap it out with a second one, but you LITERALLY velcro it to the top left side of the camera body. And the USB-c cable is short and doesn't get in the way at all. I've done it. I've run it on my gimbal. It's not rocket science.

[@franciscoa.sorianoperez7859]

please tell me if blackmagic is good for making music videos

[@Locke3OOO]

It’s not. You can shoot other types, but music video shooting is one of its shortcomings unfortunately. I’d recommend a high grade cinema camera for something like that

[@goldman7267]

What're you using to film yourself?

[@Eddie32791]

If Blackmagic can’t improve their build quality I’m staying away no matter what their cameras can deliver. And so far they’re still screwing up cause the last time I checked availability for BMPCC 4K I was told there was manufacturing defect causing a delay on their delivery. Seriously?

[@Jsfilmz]

I think its their contracted manufacturer thats causing the delay. It is bad though. Every company has its quirks. Sony still having 8 bit 100mbps h264 is worse

[@Zenither]

How about the stabilization and lowlight ?

[@Max27653]

5:17 the sony just looks so much better besides the smaller dynamic. How you compared the latest sony to the bmpcc?

[@Obaa.mp4]

This video look like a 100k - 500k subs channel 🙌🏾 Underrated

[@Jsfilmz]

aww man thanks joris. i need more content bro. any ideas?

[@Obaa.mp4]

JSFILMZ I’d say don’t copy but maybe get some inspiration from potato jet? And If I were you only use the black bars where you show B-roll or actual camera footage. Not when you see your face or when you record your screen. I see you’re uploading 2-3 times a week which is pretty good... sooo the most important thing is keep grinding I guess. Goodluck!

[@Jsfilmz]

i dont like potato jet man he just has money. he made a red dragon look like a cellphone footage like how the eff did he do that hahahaha. i have to use black bars on the entire video if not i cant do end screen video links

[@haechi21]

Thank for this awesome comparison. Made me confident about the decision to purchase pocket 4k even more.

[@ConfidenZe]

m trying to shoot music videos for people and myself and short films some stills ect im looking for a camera but im stuck between gh5 vs gh5s vs sony a7iii vs nikon z6 vs ???????anything better than what i listed my budget is 3000 but for gimble and accessories etc. on credit not cash mind you cant buy used

[@Jsfilmz]

Music videos = anamorphic. Only two cameras you listed with 4:3 anamorphic. Gh5 and gh5s go with gh5s with metabones sb or use m43 lenses

[@doomedthunder6638]

The only thing that sucks about the pocket 4K is that it’s not full frame like Sony and you would have to spend another $600 to get a speed booster.

[@fedyakarp530]

Why would you test dynamic range on the sony with rec709? The dynamic range is actually pretty crazy in slog3

[@Jsfilmz]

bruh. i guess you didnt follow the original video with the downloadables. it was shot in slog 2 then converted to rec 709 using cst

[@Jsfilmz]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jH_HgHRtp9uSr7M

[@blairhickman3614]

You gave Sony the Ergo category because it was smaller and the Blackmagic the screen size because it is bigger????

[@Jsfilmz]

ergonomics of a camera is different than screen size whats so hard to understand just because a small porsche is faster i might like a bigger truck to haul stuff. i give speed to porsche size to truck

[@bhickman0174]

@@Jsfilmz That is a very good way to put it. Thank you. I think both categories are a moot point at this time because most people are going to get cages for both and add 5" monitors. Love the Pocket as a cinema cam, but am leaning towards the Sony because I would like to have a decent stills cam too. Hoping A7Siii drops sooner than later.

[@MariosLantavos]

Is Blackmagic Pocket 4k that you use to record yourself..??? i really love the skin tones...

[@Jsfilmz]

no but its a BMD camera. can you guess which one?

[@MariosLantavos]

@@Jsfilmz URSA mini pro... i think....

[@Jsfilmz]

@@MariosLantavos nope u got one more guess

[@MariosLantavos]

i give up my friend... let's reveal the secret weapon that you use...haha

[@Jsfilmz]

BMCC 2.5k muhahahaha

[@luismacdonald]

What are you using to hold both cameras?

[@Jsfilmz]

www.amazon.com/Neewer-20-3cm-Bracket-Stereoscopic-Photography/dp/B00PAG93ES

[@Vrzalik81]

The BMPCC4K is the best budget camera for serious filmmaking on the market now! No doubt! Don't forget BMRAW is coming soon! So You will be able to record internally into this format on BMPCC4K ( quality of RAW, size of ProRess ). No hybrid camera has this possibility now. I am very interested if GH6, A7SIII or FujiFilm XH-2 are going to record into BMRAW or ProRess RAW internally too or not. That will be game changer for me! If not I am going to buy BMPCC4K.

[@videosallnight]

While this is an interesting comparison, and I personally prefer the Pocket 4K, it would be well to mention 3 important things this camera is sadly missing: continuous autofocus, WiFi, and menu/set button (the 4K has only single autofocus). OK, I know, professionals are supposed to use manual focus. My company make film cameras for the film clubs for 30 years, and I swear by the simple manual machine vision lenses these cameras use. But Panasonic and Olympus lenses use small stepper motors to focus, and are not real manual lenses. In fact, some, like the 12-32mm f3.5-5.6 lack a focus ring entirely. Focusing must be done with the camera controls. Bad, very bad !!!!. Even though many of these lenses have a focus ring, it is not attached directly to the focus barrel, but, instead, to an encoder. There is a delay in operation. There are things like the FocusShifter follow focus, but let's face it, this is no Ziess Distagon. Anybody that knows club film camera knows they require a lens blimp for really quiet operation (below 24db). I was forced to design a highly functional system to control focus and aperture from the outside, and these potentially clumsy devices were eventually made to work well. OK, manual lenses for m43 exist, but they also have manual iris and changing lighting conditions are a problem (the film cameras had an option for an auto iris drive gear). Most camcorders, DSLR's, and mirrorless cameras today have WiFi. True, wireless SD cards are available (Tosiba Flashair, EZ Share, Transcend, Monoprice etc). These cards are curranty limited to 64GB. I use the Flashair, but I, like most people are finding that downloads over about 10 MB slow down to a crawl and stop. Reloading the driver restores operation for a while, but the problem quickly returns. What about USB? Full size A USB connectors have a life of 1500 operations. Pull it 10 times a day, you can send back for repair in 5 months. If the camera has a standardized USB connector (unlike the Panasonic GH1, 2, 3, and 4), smart people put an adapter on this port, and then throw the adapter away instead of the camera (the micro USB connector is rated for 8000 operations, much more tan the full size A). Many people I know had to throw away motherboards when the USB connectors became unreliable.

[@supersand4395]

What's camera you used to make this video?

[@Jsfilmz]

bmcc 2.5k

[@supersand4395]

@@Jsfilmz Lens? :D

[@dubayyuae8696]

sony a7 mark 3 DOES have slow motion and i am able to write to my transcend via USB C since firmware 3.01

[@ashutoshwalia3601]

Which one has better auto focus?

[@ToastedSynapseGaming]

You forgot about IBIS and Auto-Focus. Maybe you don't care that much about it, but it definitely needs mentioning as many videographers use them.

[@Jsfilmz]

Yea i dont care about those for now i know many people who relied on af and got burned because they trusted af i prefer manual

[@OrrWeiss]

the sony a7iii is a video camera, which can also take pictures. a7r series is more catered to pictures