BMW CE 04 Review 2022 | Ultimate Luxury Electric Scooter?

[@lovelessissimo]

It looks cool, but it seems the engineers went out to lunch and forgot to design a rear wheel, so they used the spare tire from a 97 Civic.

[@bfarm44]

There’s a decal you can spring for, I have no idea how much. So it’s a fancy civic spare at least.

[@petermuller161]

My favorite part

[@lovelessissimo]

@@bfarm44 my spare tire had that sticker. It says "maximum speed 55 mph, recommended range not to exceed 50 miles."

[@Aigentcy]

And then the civic got a flat and they were screwed

[@OM-sb2bd]

Nailed it. 😂 … and what’s up with the ‘windscreen’ ? … still, I still dig it. 😆

[@daniilrusanau5849]

Great, probably one of the first English reviews out there! Very futuristic yoke, I like it! The only niggle about the video is the sound/mic quality while you were off the scooter. Cheers!

[@midnightrider287]

This is going to be the perfect transport for a lot of people! Looks fun too I’d love a go

[@10secondsrule]

Front designed in west Germany, rear in the east. 11k for a scooter with this little practicality? Toys for rich boys.

[@guyfromoregonplays9145]

I definitely agree that the practicality is a little lacking, however, if you want nice city ergos, really solid range, and enough power for freeway jumps, the market is really sparse! Being able to plug in at a real recharge station is a huge plus if your workspace offers spots with chargers. Considering going for it, for a PNW Spring/Summer commuter. Would you recommend any competitors?

[@seminky5341]

Yuppp....its technology

[@TheBinoyVudi]

For short to mediocre work commutes this is actually very practical.

[@michaelpedicinjr]

Any idea about when it will be available in the US? For order? and, for possible delivery? Thanks!

[@henriquemateus9900]

Range 120km Max speed 120km/h 230 kg Price 11.700£ Its a disaster...

[@axelfiraxa]

Yup. Not worth paying attention to. If i just need to commute i can get the electric vespa for 7000 euros.

[@ziechontan1717]

Dismal

[@wesleycardinal8869]

@Sate Fate Exactly.

[@ricardosmythe2548]

I agree it's not a contender in any market

[@tpv59]

So, you're not impressed???

[@bfarm44]

It’s a BMW so price is commensurate with pedigree. Suits my needs but my bank account not so much but if opportunity arises I would buy one regardless. As much as I love ancient dripping smoke belching tinkers I also love the future.

[@Neils400]

Until the UK starts treating Electric motorcycles like electric cars for taxable benefit purposes these wont sell - which is a shame. 20% of list price as a taxable benefit for this compared with 2% of list price for an electric car is ridiculous. I'm an all weather commuter with a Honda VFR800 and a Ducati Monster 821.

[@k8for]

Arrivato , consegnano il mio CE 04 a fine Marzo !🥰🥰🥰🥰

[@oscar_sheen]

In Australia this BMW is AUD$21,915 ride away, compared to the 2022 Tmax which is $19,849. Both of which, in my opinion, are too expensive especially when one can get a GXR1000 or a MT09SP for AUD$18,099 ride away (and thats the SP model which is basically a perfect naked bike).

[@uncleretard2538]

MT09SP Almost 40k SGD here (:

[@martyn_g]

You’re not comparing apples with apples. 1) TMax and CE are commuter bikes, the MT is a sports naked, and the GXR is a superbike. 2) someone in the market for a scooter, isn’t in the market for a naked, or a super bike, and vice versa. 3) a more valid comparison would be a C400 GT ion - which comes in around $14K AUD, or a Vespa GTS300 which is around 13K AUD. Those are aimed at similar markets to the TMax and CE. Not the GSX or MT.

[@oscar_sheen]

True. Naked bikes are more competitive on price because there's lots of different ones. Not much to compare with the Tmax. In OZ we don't have the Honda 750, for example or the Burgman anymore.@@martyn_g

[@thesecondshambler]

Price aside, this is perfect for my day to day needs. However, I don’t think I want to be doing urban riding on a silent bike in stealth grey.

[@henrydejong8448]

Perfect for nighttime criminal activity. Could also be used for checking on the spouse with that dual stealth mode design.😮😮😅

[@henrydejong8448]

This will never fly at that price. You can be assured that E .v motorbikes will be followed by another E. V. That being an Emergency Vehicle. Better have a super loud radio as an option.

[@martintillyer8327]

Great review, thanks! I quite like this scooter. Some of the other reviews say that the brake lights DO come on when regeneration happening - is it a setting to enable/disable?

[@RussellMiddleton]

Looks cool, but practicality seems lacking. Is there even anywhere to put a bag of groceries? My Vespa will take one under the seat, one between my legs, one in the rear storage, and one on the front rack if pressed. In a city scooter, being able to carry shopping is essential.

[@mikadavies660]

Brilliant for people who want to stand out from the crowd & 400cc equivalent in many ways. But I travel longer distances on a scooter daily and need a 600cc equivalent... ie... More top speed & more range. 85mph & 110 miles & I would seriously consider one.

[@mikadavies660]

@Sate Fate No Scooter on the planet has 400 miles range. You need to be talking Apples for Apples... I have been riding 1,000cc bikes for over 40 years and I struggle to think of any petrol bike with a 400 mile range... Scooters have typically only got 150 mile range and 3 gallon tanks (at best).

[@mikadavies660]

@Sate Fate As for drilling for oil.... Wake up! Have you any idea how many oil spills happen around the world Per MONTH? No??? Well do some research rather than talking uneducated trash.... Oil companies don't advertise... But at least 7 have happened just in 2022.... Destroying thousands of acres of land and millions of gallons of water.... Clearly, technology needs to improve to make electric vehicles really useful. Especially motorcycles... But spewing oil all over the land & sea needs to stop... Not tomorrow... But it can't continue.

[@mikadavies660]

@Sate Fate 🤣😅.. I commute over 30,000 miles a year... Have ridden bikes over 25 countries around the world... And you are telling me about motorcycles...!! Well done for squeezing 400 miles from your 125cc.... But don't talk to me about a 400cc scooter "as if you have experience" As you can't compare a brilliantly frugal CG with a full license motorcycle. No matter what country you are in...

[@mikadavies660]

@Sate Fate Glad to see that you think there is a difference between shipping car materials ALL OVER THE WORLD.... to shipping battery materials ALL OVER THE WORLD.... Batteries which happen to be recycled. A shit electric car which can do a million km is so obviously a waste.... When ICE is dead at 500,000.... So that is a ratio of 2 for 1.... Simple maths.. Even allowing for 70,000 miles from VW. And I know VW are smart people. I can't agree that wind farms are the answer... But buy oil & gas from Russia, also can't be the answer.

[@softbingan]

My second hand bergamont e-ville ebike is dead heavy at 30kg, it reaches 28mph effortlessly in less 10s. It's £3200 brand new, but I paid £1600 (it's a steal I know... Thank God for that! ). The only complaint is that the chain needs to be lubed frequently, and it's about £5/bottle!

[@samjanko8946]

Only TFT dash is good/ ready to stay, BMW! As far as rest of the scooter, if you wanna charge that kind of coin- please come back with CE 06 in 2024 with at least 60hp-80hp, minimum of 400km/real range, super-quick recharge, significantly shortened wheelbase and better storage solutions. And redesign the whole thing, while you're at it.

[@niallk9336]

Nice to see the front fairings integrated into the design. The rear end looks... unfinished? The question now is will apartments and parking garages start offering more charging? Even 120 for something like this is plenty to keep it ~70% and do what you need... string out the need for a full recharge for a few weeks.

[@tobiasolofsson9618]

Alex thanks for a good review I enjoyed it:)

[@fodos]

Thanks for the test. Low long are you? I'm 192cm with long leg. Would be comfortable to me?

[@CraigSmith568]

The elephant man turns heads, but that doesn't mean the looks are good.

[@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff]

😆

[@kushpaladin300]

love the look, reminds me a bit of a Honda Ruckus. but it's way overpriced for what it is. you can buy a 150cc scooter for $4000 and have similar performance.

[@k8for]

Le attiva le luci di stop nelle frenate rigenerative !!😊

[@govnor1495]

I am a BMW fan and I kind of like the way it looks but 80 mile range? Even if you live in the city you might want to venture out once in a while.

[@Fluterra]

Engine braking / regen DOES turn the brake lights on!!

[@visordown]

Appreciate the correction!

[@ChocolateFrog]

Was thinking that. It's a legal requirement.

[@rottwylor]

Weird comments from people who aren’t BMWs target audience. This isn’t meant to entice a broad range of consumers who want a budget bike. It’s targeted at people who have disposable income and who are interested in electric scooters to use around the city. So people who call this a fail don’t understand how businesses like BMW operate. I just ordered the avant-garde version because I live in a major city with a 2 mile commute, and have lvl 2 charging at home. I’m who they’re targeting, and I’m excited.

[@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff]

Or a much more Eco-friendly Honda CB125F, costs a fifth of the price (or less), weighs nothing, is insured for peanuts and does 187MPG. Maybe not so "cool and on-trend" but the market for this BMW must be tiny.

[@marcos1669]

The performance difference between this and the CB 125F is going to be miles apart, probably brakes and suspension as well, not comparable at all.....this compares more to a 300cc an upwards scooter

[@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff]

@@marcos1669 Agreed, but the CB125F can travel for 700km on 11 litres of fuel without stopping. So the 300cc equivalent is irrelevant if you have to stop every 80-100km to charge. Performance is measured in many ways, this bike will commute no faster than any 125cc around any major city. Take it out of the city and it is doomed.

[@marcos1669]

@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff The peoplle that are looking for a bike like the CB125F are searching a completely different thing than the people evaluating this or a C400GT, not defeding BMW, electrics or anything, but is like comparing a Kia Picanto with a BMW i3 (maybe not best example but you get the point), different cars for different people

[@tomblewomble3369]

Anything that uses petrol isnt eco friendly

[@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff]

@@tomblewomble3369 something has got to charge that battery and today most of the electricity still comes from fossil fuels or nuclear. Burn coal in a power station and roughy 80% of its energy is lost in transmission to the plug in your home.

[@FitterfasterukCoUk]

4 hour charge time.... Crazy

[@maximusaugustus6823]

Awesome scooter, I wouldn't mind having one but I live in an apartment and I have no means to charge it.

[@ironhorsegladiator5034]

what is there to service?

[@lungulet]

You want to comute a bit longer distances? Take a Vsett 11+ with 42Ah battery for 3500 euros. Real world specs: 80km/h, 60-70km ranve att high speeds :)

[@davesilverstein3585]

Did he say heavy braking doesn't activate the brake lights?

[@whittlad]

Nice and forward thinking design city scoot. I would prefer more luggage room and the long wheel base might prove cumbersome in city traffic. Price is premier but it's a BMW. I can't help but think evolution of electric bikes is still infancy and over time batteries will take up less space whilst having longer range. That said, it's a nice high spec bike that IMHO looks great but I think I would still go for Xmax or Forza/ADV for the time being👍

[@EinkOLED]

Any possibility of a top box?

[@Romiman1]

Yes.

[@Utubeisazzho]

I don’t think my camp ground will consider that a scooter lol

[@MOTOUK1]

Great review, looks a good product but the price 😮

[@chugh9992]

Actually just went to look at one in my local dealership today. Was very excited………but its grey, which costs more. It has a very narrow thinly upholstered seat and a side box which you can just about squeeze a full face helmet in to. The seat can be upgraded to “comfort” with a pathetic effort at a small backrest……all at extra cost. You can also heat the seat and hand grips…….at further extra cost! I know BMW are famous for the concept of allowing upgrades thus allowing the customer to spend as much, or as little as desired but at such a high base price I’m deeply concerned it won’t work. The only approach towards success is to get quite a few of these bikes on the road. We need to convert to electric drive systems but the price must entice and we need the “toys” as standard equipment!!! I was really looking forward to seeing the bike with a view to arranging a test ride. I came away bitterly disappointed at its grey, uninspiring appearance and depressed at the belief that for me, as I’d need the heated and more comfortable seat / top case etc, kit was just way to expensive to contemplate.

[@Shaken_AND_Stirred]

That thing is the most bad ass looking scooter I’ve ever seen. That long wheelbase is really cool. Tempting to want to trade my Softail Slim in on it………….No!

[@tamlansaoudi]

If you live in an apartment your better off with a 125cc equivalent for a quarter of the price that has removable batteries that you can charge anywhere

[@burn1gotbeats]

That 18 mile range is kinda a dealbreaker for me but it has potential.

[@MrIwayne34]

I though so, he said 80

[@burn1gotbeats]

@@MrIwayne34 it is 80 miles I think I need to change that sorry lol 😆 And 40 miles would be enough for me so 80 works I have my eye on this EV scooter.

[@booksquotes948]

Mileage ?

[@jeffreyhurst9552]

Stunning. Now all I need roughly 13,000+ pounds. Unfortunately, no PCP in the colonies.

[@DavidChristieCareerCafe]

Back wheel looks a little unfinished, lights a little small. I'd like a rack on the back and a comfort seat.

[@ronedwards8239]

You could spend more on a Reise & Muller ebike at $16,000. Now that’s bonkers.

[@firbyd]

I wish you put it in American values as well, we don't do much in metrics except nuts and bolts, which are mixed, but seat height, in inches, power in ft. lbs., or as technically said lbs. ft. and power in horse power "HP" stick to imperial or standard for us here in the states, or give both, thanks. otherwise very informative !

[@RogierYou]

Get over it learn Metric it’s way easier and the used by the rest of the world with a few exceptions.

[@Techridr]

"A Dyson Hoover" You do know those are competing companies, not the same. It's like saying a BMW Honda.

[@robertbarel896]

you are riding it in the wrong foot posision. you should stretch legs to the front and rest them in the front platforms . That is where you 100% integrate into the scooter . try it - it will take you 5-10 minutes but after that you will stay always like this .

[@JoeDplummer_]

I like it, but the rear wheel looks pretty bad as if something is missing.

[@ronedwards8239]

Incorrect, the regen braking Does activate the brake lights.

[@1990-t1j]

Why does it need a service every 10K km? I bet it's an expensive one, as well.

[@k8for]

Bellissimo!!!

[@stepbackandthink]

Huge mistake with the wheel base. This will flop big time.

[@remektekmedia6641]

No visible luggage options are a real -ve for me.

[@GoosePlaysGuitar]

Great electric Vultus...

[@SSS-mp8th]

I don't plan on having an electric motorcycle anytime soon or ever.

[@hondamotorsrider]

Clearly inspired by the Ruckus.

[@mr.j9356]

Let’s be HONEST 👀 there is nothing luxurious 🎁 about riding a scooter 🛵. No matter BMW or whoever makes the scooters 🛴, weather 🌧 will always be a problem 🔨 , hence no “real luxury” 😢.

[@waydegardner7373]

While this has a high cool factor, it doesn’t seem like a good bang for the buck. Pick up a 2019 C650 GT for $3k less. Better yet, just buy a Kymco AK 550.

[@AndyZE123]

Dyson Hoover!!

[@Nickbaldeagle02]

You'll save with fuel costs especially if you use it as a commuter bike. Pricey but cool 😎

[@mathewkendell9056]

I have owned three all electric vehicles in the past. Loved them all except one thing, they didn’t have a range worthy of making it an only vehicle. For everyday use they were perfect. An all electric vehicle makes way more sense to me though as the cost savings over a petrol powered vehicle makes way more sense. You not only save on fuel but maintenance is as close to zero as it comes. No oil changes no transmission service ect ect. Tires and brakes and a minimal cost to keep the vehicle charged. For a scooter or a motorcycle that already gets a minimum of 40 miles per gallon and upwards of 100 miles per gallon on some scooters electric just doesn’t compute well if cost was the deciding factor. Especially when the initial cost to purchase the electric scooter is so high. Like the idea but I think the market is extremely small.

[@EdLrandom]

it looks pretty cool, but it sucks ass, why do you need a wheelbase so long to top out at 120kph? for 11k USD?? there are PEVs that go almost this fast and far but you can take them on a bike lane or bring them indoors or maxiscooters that go way faster and replace you a motorcycle. Somehow storage is tiny too, vespa fits more then a helmet unlike this thing.

[@robertcurtis3807]

Nowhere near enough electric charging stations, nor close enough. Electric vehicles don’t do good up hills and mountains, and interstates due to using an extremely amount of power (not talking about hybrids). Cold weather will take over 10% plus of your fully charged vehicles, even if you do not ride it after a full charge. They take hours to days to fully charge. The electric companies now want in on electric vehicles, and the government can choose to cut charging stations and or the vehicles. They just want enough people to switch over.

[@spiritofe629]

Don't believe in any range claimed by the company. 130 km is probably in eco mode and under ideal conditions. You can knock off 20% range in real world use.

[@gunplaygaming6830]

im used to e scooters i knock of 50% to be safe if i get 40 mile range with a 1 hour fast charge to 80% not bad . where am i going 40 miles outside of LA.

[@oggyoggy1299]

£850 for the better charging cable?!?!?

[@blackbirdmark495]

Nice front end but the rear end is ugly. For the price that customers are expected to pay for the electic scooter, i’d want a better styled rear end & a more supportive looking seat. Sorry not for me 👎

[@axelfiraxa]

Nice design, poor usability/power figures for the money.

[@alpangu6170]

Need more miles 300 - 400 area in manila to area. Luzon

[@RichDunn]

The 'engine'? It doesn't have one! 😆

[@go5582]

Sir, it's not an engine,it's a quite Motor.

[@wesleycardinal8869]

Liked the video, didn't much like the scooter. Maybe when they come down to one third the price, then yes. It's a great looking thing and would be an interesting and fun bike, but it's really a toy and not worth that much.

[@ReevansElectro]

There is no ENGINE, it has a MOTOR.

[@taruiradrc]

wont save the planet with this price

[@SingleTrackMined]

It doesn't have an engine. It has a motor.

[@oscar_sheen]

better off buying a 125cc ordinary motorcycle?

[@HayabusaOrlando]

I just need it to go 150 mph

[@ReevansElectro]

Whatever you do, DON'T test drive this BMW CE 04 or you will end up buying it. I did and I will never regret it.

[@jonnysalazar94]

It's cool and all but too pricey for what it is.

[@walterschilling4512]

I would not buy this for the distance you get before charge ,if it was 200 mile range ,I would consider ,average scooter 200 mile range on full tank,. Not impressed at all.

[@andrechilver7783]

Round London that will get stolen for or if you're riding it u will get chased and robbed for sure

[@hondaryder3779]

One big TellSell Ad, interrupted by other ads. Ugly and not practical.

[@JonLondrezos]

If it came with bigger wheels (say 17") then it is ideal for London's pothole ridden roads.

[@Mrlittlelegz]

Just spent €1800 on an 07 600cc scooter much faster and a little cheaper 😂

[@ridingdriving]

30 seconds of ads and then horrible sound quality...goodbye visordown

[@МихаилГригорьевич-л3м]

Nice one, but - - NOT!- - for the Ukrainian roads! ... even in Kiev!..

[@Canoneosmiami]

Not a easy accent to understand,they are putting subtitles on British tv for different accent they have there so they can understand themselves,what makes them think that anyone else should be able to understand them ?

[@GSXSF1k]

Not for that price.

[@soulslaveone]

130 km range has nothing to do with luxury! This sorry-ass range just doesnt cut it in 2023. Bmw can call it "URBAN" all they want, the range still sucks and makes it a stupid buy for the money they`re asking for it.

[@gliderarts3573]

Bmw= I'm pretending to saving the environment by looking better than you and putting you down after we meet.....

[@timparkhurst8661]

Dodgy wheelchair. Can I skip this?

[@jprates]

engine this, engine that, engine engine engine... jesus christ there is NO ENGINE, it's a MOTOR for crying out loud

[@DirtyMerkin]

😆🤪

[@abhilashachar1278]

BMW real meaning is big money waste, people always remember that.

[@ashyswami1857]

it fucking sucks what the actual fuck.