BMW E53 Android Install & DSP Bypass Replacement

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@fredrik3863
@fredrik3863 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video, takes me back to the old days. This proves that you should never get rid of "old" car audio stuff...
@ZeroTo60Tube
@ZeroTo60Tube 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah! Been lucky in a way. Apart from the android we haven’t had to buy anything else.......... yet.
@marioramirez7098
@marioramirez7098 Жыл бұрын
This was very on point, wires were exact 👌 thank you for this video
@lukeviewservice
@lukeviewservice 3 жыл бұрын
Nice one. The old dsp unit must have digital crossovers to be that small and efficient. Wrong polarity just means the frequencies cancel each other out - this is very apparent in the lower frequency range. Tweeters can be heard as well but maybe not in this application.
@EdgarDanielContrerasNavez
@EdgarDanielContrerasNavez Жыл бұрын
Hi! This is quite a great video, however, I am unsure on how to proceed with my car, which I haven't seen in the videos. I have an E53 with the 'old-school radio display' and what it seems to be the DSP (has 3 connectors on top), however, there is nothing on top of it (I think it is the Bluetooth system) which leaves a huge gap on top of the DSP, am trying to figure out if I should replace my car stereo from factory, since the stereo glitches a lot (turns off every 20-30 minutes and the screen has several dead pixels) yet the sound works just fine. I am unsure if i need the 5-6 meter harness and also I am not sure if the lack of the Bluetooth system would affect an Android screen/audio, I have very poor knowledge on the topic and I would optimally acquire the Android unit on a tight budget, any suggestions?
@zafiropapanikitas5568
@zafiropapanikitas5568 3 жыл бұрын
I’m sure you have no trouble in fitting things in holes 9.36min 😂 great work!
@ZeroTo60Tube
@ZeroTo60Tube 3 жыл бұрын
LOL
@overindulgent
@overindulgent 3 жыл бұрын
I miss the stereo I installed in my first car back in 1998. I had an Acura Legend with 2 12inch pioneer subs, pioneer 6x9 door and rear deck speakers and a solid pioneer head unit/cd player. I believe it had a 1200watt amp by pioneer as well. All those components worked so well together.
@ZeroTo60Tube
@ZeroTo60Tube 3 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah man!! I think it was 2001 i did my first install. Started with a miss match of what ever was on sale. But the first head unit i bought was a pioneer. It was 50watt x 4 with the "mosfet" amp in the head unit. I was so excited to install it back in the day but it was such a basic unit.
@overindulgent
@overindulgent 3 жыл бұрын
@@ZeroTo60Tube What's crazy is car stereo stuff costs about the same still.
@technik333
@technik333 3 жыл бұрын
Ok I am about to tackle this project to replace my fault factory radio system with an aftermarket andriod unit. Unfortunately my E38 has a DSP system with the exact black amplifier, I have a few questions: How many crossover unit do you require to hook up all the wirings from the DSP unit? What kind of amplifier are you using it? I note that you have an alpine amplifer, any 4 channel amplifier would do? I don't think my E38 is equipped with subwoofers as I checked the rear parcel shelf, didn't see any speakers attaching underneath. Does it make my job easier? Thanks
@benm6899
@benm6899 3 жыл бұрын
Great job, thanks for posting the intall. Tthat all looks pretty complicated but you make it look easy :)
@ZeroTo60Tube
@ZeroTo60Tube 3 жыл бұрын
Ahhhh it not too bad once you get your head around it all. If you’re ever tackling something similar and have any questions just let us know.
@benm6899
@benm6899 3 жыл бұрын
@@ZeroTo60Tube was thinking of doing an upgrade on my 07 335i, and my 02 E46 325i, decisions decisions 😊
@bls2935
@bls2935 Жыл бұрын
I own a 2005 bmw x5 with a 10 speaker plus 2 subwoofers factory system and I’m installing an aftermarket amplifier to my speakers but I have no clue about which speaker wire is positive and which one is negative. Do you know where I can find a diagram for the factory speaker polarity? I know I can remove the door panels and use a 9 volt battery to know what’s the polarity but I’m trying to save the work from removing the door panels lol.
@andrewr6861
@andrewr6861 2 жыл бұрын
How long does the xtrons take for it to boot on initial startup (first start of the day) before you hear music, and how long on subsequent starts? Do you regret not having a volume knob? Thank you for taking the time to document everything.
@ZeroTo60Tube
@ZeroTo60Tube 2 жыл бұрын
It’s Probabaly 30-40 seconds. But I never notice it. Don’t miss the knob at all. Always use the steering wheel controls for volve
@andrewr6861
@andrewr6861 Жыл бұрын
@@ZeroTo60Tube What did you need to do to get the steering wheel controls to work? The vol + - does change the volume but it doesn't show up on the head unit and the forward/ back does nothing. You're the only person on youtube that actually shows the connections on a e53 with nav and dsp. You convinced me to get a xtrons, I went with the IA7253B because I need buttons and knobs, thank you again.
@vahvelpoiss
@vahvelpoiss 3 жыл бұрын
just finished watching it and well, it’s alot more compared to my old W124 Mercedes 😀 looks about a day or a day and a half of work, right? my X has only the midbasses in the rear but I do have the “DSP” door panels with two speaker slots per rear door. should I get ready to wrestle with the rear door wiring in case its not set universally or just replace the rear door speakers fo coaxials and set it? sound for rear passengers does sound a bit muffled
@ZeroTo60Tube
@ZeroTo60Tube 3 жыл бұрын
I would allow a day if its your first time. With the door wiring, there really is no way of telling if you will have the wiring for the rear tweeters, however in the rear using a set of coax should be fine for your sound stage. A lot of high end installers will run lesser quality speaker in the back as you done really want to hear them from the front. Good luck with it and take your time. Its really not as bad as it looks.
@pugs1377
@pugs1377 3 жыл бұрын
This is great! I've been considering an xtrons for my e39 but I have dsp and kept reading how much work it was. This made sense seeing it done! Thanks. Doesn't look like much more work than wiring in a good setup anyway.
@ZeroTo60Tube
@ZeroTo60Tube 3 жыл бұрын
Well you can keep your DSP and run the xtrons and save the spaghetti wiring in the boot. With the ibus app, you still get full control over the factory dsp.
@pugs1377
@pugs1377 3 жыл бұрын
@@ZeroTo60Tube wow, even easyer.
@BrucePain-_-
@BrucePain-_- 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZeroTo60Tube can you please tell us more about this option? will it sound good and have all the functions?
@danielsbeltishazer7981
@danielsbeltishazer7981 2 ай бұрын
I have an aftermarket radio,aftermarket subwoofer and amplifier installed in my E53 but im not getting sound from the front speakers only from rear doors speakers, what could but the problem? I don't have factory amplifier or subwoofer in the trunk
@joshbrennan8545
@joshbrennan8545 3 жыл бұрын
That's a crazy amount of work to get it working.. but we'll worth it.
@igotaction
@igotaction 3 жыл бұрын
That was awesome! So much work for android, but it is worth it. Put the 12s in there!!!
@ZeroTo60Tube
@ZeroTo60Tube 3 жыл бұрын
Well if the DSP was still working it would have been so much easier. Im gonna run it today with the factory sub, we'll see how long it lasts.
@msi4226
@msi4226 3 жыл бұрын
I bought an aftermarket android 10" and the installer installed it without even having to take of anything from the rear nor fiddle anything in the rear and it works well. The only issue is the FM signal intermittence. I came here thinking that you might recommend how to rectify the signal intermittence which could be adding a signal booster.
@jimmyorca757
@jimmyorca757 4 ай бұрын
Do you still have a good source for the wiring for e53? I've got a hackjob and missing connectors in my garage.
@ZeroTo60Tube
@ZeroTo60Tube 4 ай бұрын
I would use newtis.
@leanedcharles4116
@leanedcharles4116 3 жыл бұрын
Love the video, my only problem is you didn’t show or explain how you connected the ibus wire up, I’m planning on installing the same setting on my e38 740il I just want to know how you get it done
@ZeroTo60Tube
@ZeroTo60Tube 3 жыл бұрын
There is no ibus installed at this point. However this is the video where the ibus went in to this car. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHa6lYmKnK5nldk&t
@jesuschristismylord8987
@jesuschristismylord8987 10 ай бұрын
Hello Boss Good job. I just need the speaker connection color for Twitter and and woofer. Thank you
@Lilly_kacicova
@Lilly_kacicova Жыл бұрын
I've got e53 and got android head unit got the long cable but not sound I don't know what's the problem was told that the is electrical problem but everything works fine just apart from the original radio don't work I mean the screen is on but no sound can you get back to I would really appreciate thanks
@pov_driver
@pov_driver 2 жыл бұрын
If you didn't want to replace the DSP, would you be able just to hook the usual 6m cable directly to the connector connected to the bm54? My bm54 module is almost dead and I was thinking of replacing it with an android, but I don't want to mess so much with all this stuff.
@ZeroTo60Tube
@ZeroTo60Tube 2 жыл бұрын
You can, however you will need the ibus app to control the dsp.
@RyderG187
@RyderG187 8 ай бұрын
im specifically trying to find a diagram to show me the speaker input wires to the amplifier (for LOC install) in 06 x5 4.4i e53
@dirtbika70
@dirtbika70 Ай бұрын
Maybe you can help with my install on 01 e39 . I am running slightly different head unit however i get no sound when everytbing is plugged in using all factor connections . Any idea why ?
@ZeroTo60Tube
@ZeroTo60Tube Ай бұрын
I really dont know why that would be. The company you purchased the unit from should be able to help.
@ivetakentheredpill6847
@ivetakentheredpill6847 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the more detailed vid. Although keen to know how the ibus dongle is conneted at the back of the head unit ?
@ZeroTo60Tube
@ZeroTo60Tube 3 жыл бұрын
It connects to the USB port on the head unit. One wire to power, one to ground and one to canbus
@ZeroTo60Tube
@ZeroTo60Tube 3 жыл бұрын
The can bus wire is the tricky one, blue wire from memory in the original screens wiring harness.
@ivetakentheredpill6847
@ivetakentheredpill6847 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that, the unit i bought has a brown box that connects to the harness, so not sure if it is still needed. did you have a similar unit ? And would you have a link to where you bought your canbus from by chance ?
@ZeroTo60Tube
@ZeroTo60Tube 3 жыл бұрын
Hit me up directly on telegram and ill get you sorted.
@victorhutton1535
@victorhutton1535 3 жыл бұрын
Lots of great info! Thank you!
@ZeroTo60Tube
@ZeroTo60Tube 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting, we really appreciate the support.
@corteman
@corteman 3 жыл бұрын
I could see a stereo update being something to spruce up an old X5, what other upgrades could makes this heavy mamas more appealing?
@ZeroTo60Tube
@ZeroTo60Tube 3 жыл бұрын
Thats a good question. Anyone else have any thoughts?
@overindulgent
@overindulgent 3 жыл бұрын
A sliding canvas roof would be pretty cool.
@corteman
@corteman 3 жыл бұрын
@@ZeroTo60Tube maybe all terrain tires and a mild lift kit? This sounds like a future episode...🤔🤣
@Chippie-O
@Chippie-O 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Guys, i don't suppose you could do a followup on the Sound Quality of the head unit at all? Especially with the low output of the RCA's - would it be better running hi-level to the amp's ASSUMING that the distortion is lower than the RCA's. Cheers.
@ZeroTo60Tube
@ZeroTo60Tube 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Owen, I will definitely be doing a full review of the unit. Unfortunately with the xmas break and well normal BMW madness with the cars we play with on the channel, i haven't had quite enough time with the unit to give a full opinion on it. However the audio with the low output RCA's are not a problem. As i went through this with my last e53. I know the poor subs will be the first issue with the audio quality. Then then the other speakers. I found in my last car with higher gains there was an issue with alternator wine. I can just about hear it on most E53s, even with stock amps. However it can be easily fixed with a specific capacitor. We will keep playing with and improving this stereo over the coming months. I dont really want to spend as much as i did last time, so we will see how we go with more of the budget ideas on improving the stereo.
@Chippie-O
@Chippie-O 3 жыл бұрын
@@ZeroTo60Tube cheers guy's, really appreciate it. There's been way too much going on all round, so all good. I've been looking hard at these, and am thinking of getting a universal version for my van. I'll be doing a similar thing to you, swapping in my old set-up, but using a helix dsp for voltage boost to signal strength.
@medolamour
@medolamour 2 жыл бұрын
what about LHD version? should it go through left side panel too or should it go through the right one?
@ZeroTo60Tube
@ZeroTo60Tube 2 жыл бұрын
Im sorry but i have never seen a LHD version, so have no idea
@fernandobullon430
@fernandobullon430 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Is there a way you can sent me the pin outs and polarity on the non dsp system. I have a 01 x5 4.4i and will like to do something like this to have a better system . Thank you in advance.
@ZeroTo60Tube
@ZeroTo60Tube 3 жыл бұрын
The ones i used are in the description. However im still not sure if i miss read them or if the e39 wagon is different to the E53 x5 pinouts. If you have any other questions please let us know.
@UKNeedleboy
@UKNeedleboy 3 жыл бұрын
Hey! I got E53 with android aftermarket radio. Before I had OEM one with TV and nav. So they installed whole radio, but I don't have any GPS signal. Is they screw their job or I should connect it by special wire What wasnt included in whole new set up, or where might be a problem?
@ZeroTo60Tube
@ZeroTo60Tube 3 жыл бұрын
It could be something as simple as the location of the GPS sensor. I ended up mounting this one behind the dash cluster.
@josephbeltramini5442
@josephbeltramini5442 3 жыл бұрын
A JL Stealthbox maybe will fit. I think they make one for your model. 🔊
@TheGreendabomb
@TheGreendabomb 2 жыл бұрын
Do I actually NEED to fit all of this stuff, just to have an android head unit ..??!!
@ZeroTo60Tube
@ZeroTo60Tube 2 жыл бұрын
Yes or at least modify the factory stuff to work.
@johncarroll4998
@johncarroll4998 3 жыл бұрын
I managed to get my headunit working with no sound. I stumbled here and realised what i a job it was. Is there any other way/hacks so you can get sound without DSP overrides. ?
@ZeroTo60Tube
@ZeroTo60Tube 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately not, the dsp needs a can bus signal to turn on.
@gbell303
@gbell303 3 жыл бұрын
Hey did you use a fakra aerial 6m extension for radio in head unit ?
@ZeroTo60Tube
@ZeroTo60Tube 3 жыл бұрын
Nah, i am not a fan of the radio, so i ended up just turning the radio function off.
@lungothrin
@lungothrin 3 жыл бұрын
I just installed the same unit in my E53 with Nav (non-DSP) but there is a constant hum/hiss noise in the background. Any idea how to fix it? Thank you
@SlimRetro
@SlimRetro 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, was it the same process with the Nav non-DSP version?
@ben7020
@ben7020 3 жыл бұрын
I can tell you've been messing with car audio for years. Ohms, crossovers, subs and tuning 👍 Then your girlfriend says....sounds the same to me !!
@ZeroTo60Tube
@ZeroTo60Tube 3 жыл бұрын
If it’s in a car I’ve probably messed with it..........
@br4d101
@br4d101 3 жыл бұрын
Mate happens all the time! Annoying haha
@StratoJohn
@StratoJohn 3 жыл бұрын
I need to do a bit more learning I think! Good video though 👍🏻
@bata0118
@bata0118 3 жыл бұрын
If I buy android unit with dsp built in and extension cable, will it work (sound) without modifying wires? I have x5 e53 2005 with dsp amp and nav.
@ZeroTo60Tube
@ZeroTo60Tube 3 жыл бұрын
Some units will work. But you need one that will control the factory DSP. The bmw models with factory DSP rely on the DSP to do all of the sound processing. So basically you need to make sure you can control the factory DSP. As standard the DSP is controlled with the ibus. Any android paired with the ibus dongle & app will work, as the ibus dongle sends the appropriate signals over ibus to activate the DSP.
@bata0118
@bata0118 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much
@juniwalk
@juniwalk 3 жыл бұрын
Is it that much better? I think i'd rather replace OEM DSP :D
@ZeroTo60Tube
@ZeroTo60Tube 3 жыл бұрын
Replacing the factory DSP would be much easier.
@memphisrainesgallery
@memphisrainesgallery 3 жыл бұрын
amazing how BMW can manage to fit so much into the DSP box.. but still need about 8 other boxes just for Bluetooth / navigation etc.. always fancied fitting an Xtrons unit to my E91 but hear so many stories of them not working properly
@ZeroTo60Tube
@ZeroTo60Tube 3 жыл бұрын
hahah you're not wrong. I did look at aftermarket DSP's and amps with DSPs built in, they are just a bit too expensive for my liking, which is why i ended up with so much mess here using the cheaper seperate components. I have a android in my e92 and i love it. The idrive integration now is amazing. You shouldnt have any issues and sound quality is no different to using the aux input. With some eq adjustments you get them sounding mint.
@trevorsonnenberg5268
@trevorsonnenberg5268 3 жыл бұрын
"Nice big cavity... That nothing is going to go in".... Lol Right
@Saif0412
@Saif0412 3 жыл бұрын
Mate that's way too much work, glad you know what your doing but this doesn't look like a DIY for the average person, I would probably have caused more problems than fix 😣
@jpwilliams5264
@jpwilliams5264 3 жыл бұрын
For next time, use a AA battery and tap the speaker wires on the battery, it will pop a bit and also if you can see the speaker it will show you the polarity (cone goes out for correct and goes in if backwards). Doesn’t work as much for tweeters unfortunately. NF for the win!!
@ZeroTo60Tube
@ZeroTo60Tube 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately you cant see the woofer on the rear door speaker through the grille. Which is why i went with just trial and error and the heavy song...... plus the aa was down in the house..... ha
@gbell303
@gbell303 3 жыл бұрын
Hey did you use a fakra aerial 6m extension for radio in head unit ?
@autochava
@autochava 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@MrFabeRick
@MrFabeRick 3 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍🎶🎶🔊🔊🔊
@wilbert-oppegard
@wilbert-oppegard 3 жыл бұрын
Skid factory!!
@ZeroTo60Tube
@ZeroTo60Tube 3 жыл бұрын
Good lads!
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