1300 hp, 4 cylinders, in 1984. This is why modern F1 has pushed me backwards. I'd rather study the history than concern myself with the 2019 season.
@ESHANABROOK2 жыл бұрын
This engine as amassing as it was, was only MAYBE good for 1 or 2 laps qualifying trim and MAYBE make it through the race. Beast of an engine, but unreliable. Engines now are way better. Great Video!
@M0bel Жыл бұрын
1984 it was "only" 950hp in qualifying. In 1986 it had an estimated output of 1400hp. Imho the best engines were the 3l NA engines at 19k rpm with nearly 1000hp.
@ThrowingItAway6 жыл бұрын
When you see a bunch of old German Mechanics smiling around an engine you gotta know something good is about to go down.
@itsjustnopinionok5 жыл бұрын
Or blow up
@tony_51564 жыл бұрын
Steven SteveO ok amerikkan lol
@RobMcFlash4 жыл бұрын
That smiling old bloke is Paul Rosche.
@silvioferreiracamelo8864 жыл бұрын
Only the best driver and chassis/suspension maker in the world to overcome all difficulties and be world champion with an average team! Great Nelson Piquet from Brazil!
@superfast304 жыл бұрын
Awesome video of one of the greatest F1 engines ever developed. The smile on Mr. Rosche's face says it all!
@blackbeard99587 жыл бұрын
Am i the only one who finds these videos of engines being built oddly satisfying?
@simonjeacle47326 жыл бұрын
No, you're not the only one.
@rockers2rockers6166 жыл бұрын
I love the sounds of two surfaces being mated up and bolts being torqued or the simple way the mechanic wiped down components with a paper towel. Artificial intelligence and robots are taking this away these skills and now man is a component that is soon to be superceded. Handmade really does stand for something.
@ericnickel32805 жыл бұрын
@@rockers2rockers616 or the sound of a large diameter drill bit peeling away at the metal that it's going through. Not many people understand the beauty of that sound.
@jeremyjohnson88445 жыл бұрын
No. There's nothing odd about it. It's visceral and indulgent to our gearhead ways.
@akinoshoko42585 жыл бұрын
Nope!
@ganzano6 жыл бұрын
Look at the care, the painstaking attention to detail, the respect for the parts, the pride and love in their work. THIS is truly expert craftsmanship.
@oldleatherhandsfriends40536 жыл бұрын
They better take care with those parts I'm positive every thing they touched cost hundreds of thousands of dollars, the bolts alone are probably 10k
@GB-vn1tf4 жыл бұрын
@@oldleatherhandsfriends4053 the block is a basic 4 pot road car block. Lots of trick bits thrown on but hardly exotic these days.
@esteve725 жыл бұрын
That's the legend himself, Paul Rosche, showing up at the end. It's cool to see the old timers at work with their spinner ratchets and no rubber gloves!
@GB-vn1tf4 жыл бұрын
I knew I recognised him, thanks.
@fw14217 жыл бұрын
I love that these guys are in Germany and Credence Clearwater Revival was on the radio! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@TheRjjrjjr6 жыл бұрын
It's so nice to watch these old craftsmen build this beautiful engine.
@tech98037 жыл бұрын
I remember reading about this back in the 80s. For qualifying runs Brabham/BMW made what were called "grenade motors" with insane boost pressures for super-high output, that would last only a dozen laps before destroying themselves.
@akasakakv95237 жыл бұрын
like 80 psi of BOOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@bujfvjg72227 жыл бұрын
they used to seal the wastegate shut! ....They do that in modern V6 F1 engines but the difference being modern F1 engines now have MGU-H motors on the turbos allowing the spool of the turbo to be at discrepancy of an electric motor, and therefor can harness off-throttle which allows the turbo to not always be on boost -like the qualifying engines you mentioned, with their wastegates sealed.
@Skyisnotalimit9 жыл бұрын
I wish they could still build engines like this. Gear driven shafts... No belt, no chain... Hairy piece this one...
@MoiPloy8 жыл бұрын
old nissan sedans were gear driven
@OggaDugga7 жыл бұрын
Honestly idk why they don’t use gear driven shafts today. It’s much more reliable to belts and chains it seems.
@EmyrDerfel7 жыл бұрын
More contact surfaces = more friction. More complex assembly = more expensive. Also, more bearings to fail and misalign. Formula 1 engines get a lot more engines than a typical road car.
@carlosrubio82346 жыл бұрын
Gear driven used by Honda in racing endurance HRC motorbikes... RVF 750 RC 30, RVF 750 RC 45 and VTR 1000 SP RC51... and many more top CLASS Honda motorbikes
@sockpuppets72566 жыл бұрын
changing them gear bearings would be alot more difficult then changing belts or chains, plus engine noise/vibration wouldnt be the normal consumers cup of tea in a road car
@antoniop19683 жыл бұрын
Love the “old school” technicians. No gloves, just dirty, greasy hands.
@bumseng77796 жыл бұрын
Und am Schluss sieht man den Meister nochmal, Paul du genie👍
@michelod.i.y.52025 жыл бұрын
Beautiful, would love to have the knowledge to be able to rebuild an engine like this. Proper old school and I noticed not a torque wrench is sight.
@paulos.csilva37172 жыл бұрын
the torques used are kept strictly confidential.
@77ceLcius7 жыл бұрын
I can watch these kinds of engine build all day
@walterfleck60195 жыл бұрын
Ein M10 mit Power; nee, scherz beiseite, eine tolle Präsentation von Skills und knowledge. Ich bin stolz auf Euch.
@Boltronical8 жыл бұрын
Dat turbo...
@mverbaan33817 жыл бұрын
That is no turbo...... that is the drum of a washing machine... ;)
@Xsidon3 жыл бұрын
@@mverbaan3381 it looks like a turbofan engine attached to a combustion engine lol
@arebrec6 жыл бұрын
Look at the duration on those cam lobes!
@autotalon9 жыл бұрын
Wow that carbon fiber compressor housing is pretty sweet
@richieac10003 жыл бұрын
To me this was the pinnacle of F1 😎
@johntechwriter9 жыл бұрын
The turbo is nearly the size of the engine! I read somewhere they used old production-car blocks, with high mileage. Somehow the metal had "matured" and they were more reliable.
@flakey78325 жыл бұрын
yeah, it was in the documentary about the engine itself, you can search youtube for that
@barryfowles-zl5ib5 жыл бұрын
BMW used the blocks from road test very high mileage engines, the milage "settled" the cast iron blocks so when re-machined/bored etc they held the tolerances better. They were very carefully selected and all burrs and casting marks were dressed smooth so as to not start a crack, needless to say, they were X-rayed during the inspection
@clockdva205 жыл бұрын
Off the top my head , it was a production road car cast block they used high mileage at that , and then left outside apparently . Not sure if was from the BMW 2002 series cars with a different stroke but they used a standard production block . That Turbo I am guessing was original ment for a truck . The lag must have been amazing waiting for that to spool up. But very typical of the day when many teams still used off the shelf parts. Great piece of history though.
@Tomelino4 жыл бұрын
5:11 What an event! Even the CEO of Mercedes was there XD
@cargofan14777 жыл бұрын
5:00 Paul Rosche "Nocken-Paule" R.I.P !
@p1fly7 жыл бұрын
Cargofan Master engine builder thank God for this guy we have some of the best engines ever produced
@powersliding6 жыл бұрын
the only man who could make a stock block from a road car to the most powerful engine in f1..rest in peace
@arcadiomesacolomar60903 жыл бұрын
Menuda obra de ingeniería de Paul Roche ,el mejor ingeniero de bmw el famoso motor M12 y M13 1.5 litros de cilindrada ,rodaba 15000 rpm que lastima ya no hay ingenieros como el ,hizo mucho por bmw buenos motores menuda leyenda tiene ese motor en el fórmula 1 ,después diseño más motores como el v10 de fórmula 1 ,y otros más montaba motores usados para que no se rompa en carrera por las tensiones ,como experto en bmw un saludo a todos por exponerlo en el Museo de bmw
@edwardrichardson82544 жыл бұрын
They boosted these engines up to 80PSI. For comparison, a Bugatti Chiron’s turbos boost to 18PSI.
@joaocozza9924 жыл бұрын
O motor mais FANTÁSTICO que a F1 já teve....
@malabii7 жыл бұрын
Epic car, epic engine, epic driver. Great times!
@Juhnu4 жыл бұрын
These are the kind of guys who don't need torque wrenches, they can just do it perfectly by hand.
@davidrudolph28257 жыл бұрын
The BMW M10 4 cylinder turbo engine: pound for pound, the best engine to ever power a Formula 1 car! Nothing else was even close!
@n1t3h4wk46 жыл бұрын
Legendary Megatron !
@nicorosbergf1fan7834 жыл бұрын
This is simply beautiful
@TheManLab76 жыл бұрын
That turbo is almost as big as the engine! 😳
@sandynahar7667 Жыл бұрын
I think...the most amazing engine in F1 history..
@erikeggenbakstad4 жыл бұрын
A lot of knowledge with those gentlemen for sure. Great video 😁👍
@jacksmith31895 жыл бұрын
Artisans at work Perfection
@iNDOmOTO15 жыл бұрын
It still amaze me how technology works, thank God for smart people.
@SaWuDOHC3 жыл бұрын
4:14 interesting that they mounted the throttle right ahead of the compressor wheel.
@flakey78325 жыл бұрын
the good old way to build a f1 engine: hand tools and experience
@gerry3437 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that so many are involved with assembling the engine- I would have thought it would be done by one man.
@yxng_metro6 жыл бұрын
They just rebuilded their own engine that they made.
@gustavohenriqueF17 жыл бұрын
2:27 - Grande NelSHOW Piquet. MITO.
@Secret720625 жыл бұрын
This was the best asmr I have ever seen
@jasonmames53294 жыл бұрын
Wow man this makes me wish that I pursued a career in motor mechanics or some sort of engineering 😥😥
@ferrumlynx19146 жыл бұрын
All of this is so German.
@TRWRepa5 жыл бұрын
sauber ! bmw immer gut !
@stevefuller17795 жыл бұрын
When these engines were new, the cylinder blocks would be put outside to "weather" and the mechanics were even encouraged to "P" on them, apparently it makes the castings tougher! Probably smell funny when first started too!
@patgill49685 жыл бұрын
I heard they used old blocks from warranty return engines, already stress relieved, then they left them outside,
@jackzac5 жыл бұрын
the size of that turbo !!
@FrankValchiria7 жыл бұрын
when i saw the turbo , than i understood.
@Big2009Gee6 жыл бұрын
FrankValchiria I know what you mean old turbos are so inefficient they have to be huge.
@Virtuoso236 жыл бұрын
Somebody told me that the guy that let the gasket fall had to clean the toilets in the workshop for 2 weeks. Serious note: BMW has been able to build an engine doing up to 1200 HP in qualifies, and 800 in a race, that looks like an engine with nothing special, like you can go into a BMW showroom and buy one: that is insane. Some years later, they put some of the tech into the 4 cyl 2.0 on the 320is (190 HP and high revs), and the 6 cyl 3.0 in the M3, turning the E30 series into something that really made sports car's history.
@VTLIFE-so4dc4 жыл бұрын
Legend has it, the core blocks were left outside to weather, and mechanics would piss on them, over time ,before they were brought back in, and "blueprinted" and assembly began. As an American, of German heritage, this seems like just the right thing.
@patbutete17223 ай бұрын
Believe that and you will believe anything mate!
@lucagoldoni24134 жыл бұрын
Inizio anni 80, i materiali erano quelli che erano, le conoscenze anche......4 cilindri 1.500 cc mono turbo: 1.280 cv!! Fantastico!!! TOP TOP TOP!
@VectorOfKnowledge2 жыл бұрын
Throw that into a golf cart, and you'd have a beast of a car.
@Stormas30005 жыл бұрын
This is the m12 engine right? They made this engine from the M10 that powered the 2002's,520i e28 and the 318i e30( early versions)
@GB-vn1tf4 жыл бұрын
I believe you're correct. I know its before M3. Just the block though. Dry sump and different head.
@andynixon28206 жыл бұрын
In a rebuilt normal road engine you'd expect the bores to show hone marks for retaining oil , but these looked polished which is really interesting . These BMW boys must know there stuff .
@barryfowles-zl5ib5 жыл бұрын
With BMW motor is their middle name.
@randy4385 жыл бұрын
"There's no way this made 1280 horsepow.... *sees the size of the turbo* oh... I see"
@searchthetruth19815 жыл бұрын
😜🤣🤣🤣👍
@danielromeo18595 жыл бұрын
Jajajaja
@Slaktrax3 жыл бұрын
Approximately 1400hp for qualifying.
@hugoparker14277 жыл бұрын
That would be the best job. Those are some lucky dudes.
@ronchappel48126 ай бұрын
4:05 😃 Great photo!
@steenlassen57186 жыл бұрын
That turbosize explains quite a lot: It is more a turbo with an engine, than an engine with a turbo!!!
@Big2009Gee6 жыл бұрын
Steen Lassen I know what you mean these old turbos where so inefficient they had to be huge.
@oldleatherhandsfriends40536 жыл бұрын
It also has to supply 80 odd pounds of boost to an engine spinning at 10K+ rpm, so it has to be huge.
@Buzdu222 жыл бұрын
Napier discovered this with their compound turbo aircraft engines. The turbos were developing more power than the piston engines they were attached to. This is why they soon switched to turboprop engines
@philippbecker53927 ай бұрын
Great Video! Nice to see Nocken Paule 👍
@joshgreaves99346 жыл бұрын
Great video! I’m sure this engine is similar to the Ford 4-15T 4 cylinders, 1.5 litre turbo. I saw one on a dyno ages ago, I’m sure it made around 1000bhp. As said great video.
@ar_pe40125 жыл бұрын
As it is „basically“ an M10 engine I am very proud that my 1502 is at least some kind of an F1 car! :D
@turnip54655 жыл бұрын
the only close thing to the M10 engine here is the block but even that is most likely reworked lol
@SrMatanza865 жыл бұрын
I miss BMW F1!! 😪
@kevinb94075 жыл бұрын
So wish I could have taken my time like this when I worked in a remanufacturing plant, and not have been driven by a merciless time clock/boss to get 600 or more of these done in a lesser amount of time.
@mplewp6 жыл бұрын
Thats a manly 4 banger ^^
@jerrychase41773 жыл бұрын
Throwback Event Proposal, Penske Offenhauser vs BMW 4 cylinder engine build, dyno and performance comparison at Indianapolis in 2022...
@mbchannel10375 жыл бұрын
Very satisfying video.
@williamlucass93358 жыл бұрын
beautiful awesome work.
@archi_damos6 жыл бұрын
Great video for an amazing engine! camshafts specs?
@gtr1616 жыл бұрын
Old school mechanics, visible and tactile - no fancy pants energy recovery or super dooper electronics/computer systems here...
@frankblack1481 Жыл бұрын
Putting the ‘M’ in #ASMR 😂
@BallisticTech5 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see James May build this engine. He might finish it before the earth blows up...
@n10cities7 жыл бұрын
I bet those cam gears scream with that straight teeth profile!
@abdullahking78504 жыл бұрын
Good work
@tedmalley76363 жыл бұрын
Isn't this the famed...."Megatron" F1 engine capable of 1,300 + HP in qualifying tune?
@Apex0325 жыл бұрын
People who love them work
@codycall65136 жыл бұрын
I’ll take two please. Thank you.
@simonjeacle47326 жыл бұрын
Great video, vert interesting, but, there are far too many close up shots. Camera work in general is very poor. What a shame.
@nicolasbroodryk34074 жыл бұрын
Excellent men.
@ko7996 жыл бұрын
BMW Power💪💪💪
@Nordspets3 жыл бұрын
Mechanical ASMR
@Inazuma685 жыл бұрын
Go Nelson Piquet 👍👌
@sandhikawirendr5 жыл бұрын
Beast...
@mcqcjc84095 жыл бұрын
Why is there no honing lines on the cylinder bore? What is the science behind that?
@autotronicadelsurwilliams17846 жыл бұрын
Esto es cuando antes Bmw hacía motores de verdad no como estos de serie N52
@kopronko6 жыл бұрын
Thanks. But, what kind of piston material and brand did they used in this planet's one of Best engine ???
@MrWoowootila5 жыл бұрын
Wonder if modern F1 engines have gear driven timing. General aviation still uses it on its air-cooled engines and the engine of the F1 bolts to the body similar to general aviation.
@mattmechanic32215 жыл бұрын
In public auto timing chain 100k end time to say good bye :D in f1 timing gears.
Did anyone else see how easily he spun that crank by hand?
@chrissilva56598 жыл бұрын
they didn't use torque wrenches at all it was very strange.i woulda figured they would.
@meandkg8 жыл бұрын
+Chris Silva They were, unibody torque wrench, i.e. each wrench has a 5nm rating etc, so you have to have 20 of these uni wrenches to equal an actual torque wrench its faster though
@Dierwolf20008 жыл бұрын
thats pretty freakin genius....
@chrissilva56598 жыл бұрын
Huh ok.ill watch again.
@artmchugh92837 жыл бұрын
Chris Silva noticed that too , guess those old dudes know what is jussssst right😄
@burlatsdemontaigne61476 жыл бұрын
Chris Silva ____. Not all bolts have to be torqued. They only torque the ones that need it.
@TucsonDude5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if these guys are all just "volunteers" doing this work as a labor of love. I can't imagine that many senior techs working on a factory restoration and getting full pay.
@Slaktrax3 жыл бұрын
I see no torque wrenches, only good old traditional ''feel''. Nice.
@DeathByBoost5 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or did the cylinder walls look polished
@andrewwilson83176 жыл бұрын
Very nice but pretty simple engine. Looks quite crude when compared to a modern sports bike engine but can't complain at the numbers,a massive turbo can make any engine go crazy! Can you just imagine it off boost? The turbo lag must be awful?
@thebigmacd5 жыл бұрын
These engines did not build boost until around 7000 rpm. Search for "bmw f1 turbo dyno plot" in Google images and there is a dyno plot as first result. They don't even start the plot until 7000 rpm.
@ericnickel32805 жыл бұрын
I find it very interesting that there is no girdle on the bottom end. Maybe no one had thought of it back when this engine was being raced.
@Buzdu222 жыл бұрын
They knew about girdles, it just didn't need them. That little block is a beast
@brunomanco75295 жыл бұрын
That 1200hp engine only has 1 cam per head operating induction and exhaust?
@BadAssEngineering6 жыл бұрын
So the throttle body is placed before the Turbo ?? *interesting*