BMW F1 Car BT52 1,280 hp Engine Assembly

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@LuxeXx
@LuxeXx 5 жыл бұрын
1300 hp, 4 cylinders, in 1984. This is why modern F1 has pushed me backwards. I'd rather study the history than concern myself with the 2019 season.
@ESHANABROOK
@ESHANABROOK 2 жыл бұрын
This engine as amassing as it was, was only MAYBE good for 1 or 2 laps qualifying trim and MAYBE make it through the race. Beast of an engine, but unreliable. Engines now are way better. Great Video!
@M0bel
@M0bel 2 жыл бұрын
1984 it was "only" 950hp in qualifying. In 1986 it had an estimated output of 1400hp. Imho the best engines were the 3l NA engines at 19k rpm with nearly 1000hp.
@ThrowingItAway
@ThrowingItAway 6 жыл бұрын
When you see a bunch of old German Mechanics smiling around an engine you gotta know something good is about to go down.
@itsjustnopinionok
@itsjustnopinionok 5 жыл бұрын
Or blow up
@tony_5156
@tony_5156 4 жыл бұрын
Steven SteveO ok amerikkan lol
@RobMcFlash
@RobMcFlash 4 жыл бұрын
That smiling old bloke is Paul Rosche.
@superfast30
@superfast30 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video of one of the greatest F1 engines ever developed. The smile on Mr. Rosche's face says it all!
@silvioferreiracamelo886
@silvioferreiracamelo886 4 жыл бұрын
Only the best driver and chassis/suspension maker in the world to overcome all difficulties and be world champion with an average team! Great Nelson Piquet from Brazil!
@ganzano
@ganzano 7 жыл бұрын
Look at the care, the painstaking attention to detail, the respect for the parts, the pride and love in their work. THIS is truly expert craftsmanship.
@oldleatherhandsfriends4053
@oldleatherhandsfriends4053 6 жыл бұрын
They better take care with those parts I'm positive every thing they touched cost hundreds of thousands of dollars, the bolts alone are probably 10k
@GB-vn1tf
@GB-vn1tf 5 жыл бұрын
@@oldleatherhandsfriends4053 the block is a basic 4 pot road car block. Lots of trick bits thrown on but hardly exotic these days.
@blackbeard9958
@blackbeard9958 7 жыл бұрын
Am i the only one who finds these videos of engines being built oddly satisfying?
@simonjeacle4732
@simonjeacle4732 6 жыл бұрын
No, you're not the only one.
@rockers2rockers616
@rockers2rockers616 6 жыл бұрын
I love the sounds of two surfaces being mated up and bolts being torqued or the simple way the mechanic wiped down components with a paper towel. Artificial intelligence and robots are taking this away these skills and now man is a component that is soon to be superceded. Handmade really does stand for something.
@ericnickel3280
@ericnickel3280 6 жыл бұрын
@@rockers2rockers616 or the sound of a large diameter drill bit peeling away at the metal that it's going through. Not many people understand the beauty of that sound.
@jeremyjohnson8844
@jeremyjohnson8844 6 жыл бұрын
No. There's nothing odd about it. It's visceral and indulgent to our gearhead ways.
@akinoshoko4258
@akinoshoko4258 5 жыл бұрын
Nope!
@fw1421
@fw1421 7 жыл бұрын
I love that these guys are in Germany and Credence Clearwater Revival was on the radio! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@esteve72
@esteve72 5 жыл бұрын
That's the legend himself, Paul Rosche, showing up at the end. It's cool to see the old timers at work with their spinner ratchets and no rubber gloves!
@GB-vn1tf
@GB-vn1tf 5 жыл бұрын
I knew I recognised him, thanks.
@bumseng7779
@bumseng7779 7 жыл бұрын
Und am Schluss sieht man den Meister nochmal, Paul du genie👍
@TheRjjrjjr
@TheRjjrjjr 7 жыл бұрын
It's so nice to watch these old craftsmen build this beautiful engine.
@walterfleck6019
@walterfleck6019 5 жыл бұрын
Ein M10 mit Power; nee, scherz beiseite, eine tolle Präsentation von Skills und knowledge. Ich bin stolz auf Euch.
@michelod.i.y.5202
@michelod.i.y.5202 5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful, would love to have the knowledge to be able to rebuild an engine like this. Proper old school and I noticed not a torque wrench is sight.
@paulos.csilva3717
@paulos.csilva3717 3 жыл бұрын
the torques used are kept strictly confidential.
@tech9803
@tech9803 8 жыл бұрын
I remember reading about this back in the 80s. For qualifying runs Brabham/BMW made what were called "grenade motors" with insane boost pressures for super-high output, that would last only a dozen laps before destroying themselves.
@akasakakv9523
@akasakakv9523 7 жыл бұрын
like 80 psi of BOOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@aureliobrighton1871
@aureliobrighton1871 Ай бұрын
Just saw a clip about the Brabs. They recalled 1 or 2 laps before 'Poof', special fuel, superhot engine computer, ice and water, plateing, bent gearboxes before completing one lap. Regular road car 318i block left out in the rain for hardening. Engine block (and Chassis) split in half on the track by extreme boost. And drivers who demanded 'More' in order to beat Renault. "You steer it round the corner, watch for ample space for snaking, then just floor it. No way you can 'drive' the thing." Engineers, what a breed. ;)
@autotalon
@autotalon 9 жыл бұрын
Wow that carbon fiber compressor housing is pretty sweet
@Skyisnotalimit
@Skyisnotalimit 9 жыл бұрын
I wish they could still build engines like this. Gear driven shafts... No belt, no chain... Hairy piece this one...
@MoiPloy
@MoiPloy 8 жыл бұрын
old nissan sedans were gear driven
@OggaDugga
@OggaDugga 7 жыл бұрын
Honestly idk why they don’t use gear driven shafts today. It’s much more reliable to belts and chains it seems.
@EmyrDerfel
@EmyrDerfel 7 жыл бұрын
More contact surfaces = more friction. More complex assembly = more expensive. Also, more bearings to fail and misalign. Formula 1 engines get a lot more engines than a typical road car.
@carlosrubio8234
@carlosrubio8234 7 жыл бұрын
Gear driven used by Honda in racing endurance HRC motorbikes... RVF 750 RC 30, RVF 750 RC 45 and VTR 1000 SP RC51... and many more top CLASS Honda motorbikes
@sockpuppets7256
@sockpuppets7256 7 жыл бұрын
changing them gear bearings would be alot more difficult then changing belts or chains, plus engine noise/vibration wouldnt be the normal consumers cup of tea in a road car
@antoniop1968
@antoniop1968 3 жыл бұрын
Love the “old school” technicians. No gloves, just dirty, greasy hands.
@richieac1000
@richieac1000 3 жыл бұрын
To me this was the pinnacle of F1 😎
@77ceLcius
@77ceLcius 7 жыл бұрын
I can watch these kinds of engine build all day
@Tomelino
@Tomelino 4 жыл бұрын
5:11 What an event! Even the CEO of Mercedes was there XD
@erikeggenbakstad
@erikeggenbakstad 5 жыл бұрын
A lot of knowledge with those gentlemen for sure. Great video 😁👍
@malabii
@malabii 8 жыл бұрын
Epic car, epic engine, epic driver. Great times!
@arebrec
@arebrec 7 жыл бұрын
Look at the duration on those cam lobes!
@joaocozza992
@joaocozza992 4 жыл бұрын
O motor mais FANTÁSTICO que a F1 já teve....
@nicorosbergf1fan783
@nicorosbergf1fan783 5 жыл бұрын
This is simply beautiful
@arcadiomesacolomar6090
@arcadiomesacolomar6090 3 жыл бұрын
Menuda obra de ingeniería de Paul Roche ,el mejor ingeniero de bmw el famoso motor M12 y M13 1.5 litros de cilindrada ,rodaba 15000 rpm que lastima ya no hay ingenieros como el ,hizo mucho por bmw buenos motores menuda leyenda tiene ese motor en el fórmula 1 ,después diseño más motores como el v10 de fórmula 1 ,y otros más montaba motores usados para que no se rompa en carrera por las tensiones ,como experto en bmw un saludo a todos por exponerlo en el Museo de bmw
@Secret72062
@Secret72062 6 жыл бұрын
This was the best asmr I have ever seen
@davidrudolph2825
@davidrudolph2825 7 жыл бұрын
The BMW M10 4 cylinder turbo engine: pound for pound, the best engine to ever power a Formula 1 car! Nothing else was even close!
@johntechwriter
@johntechwriter 9 жыл бұрын
The turbo is nearly the size of the engine! I read somewhere they used old production-car blocks, with high mileage. Somehow the metal had "matured" and they were more reliable.
@flakey7832
@flakey7832 5 жыл бұрын
yeah, it was in the documentary about the engine itself, you can search youtube for that
@barryfowles-zl5ib
@barryfowles-zl5ib 5 жыл бұрын
BMW used the blocks from road test very high mileage engines, the milage "settled" the cast iron blocks so when re-machined/bored etc they held the tolerances better. They were very carefully selected and all burrs and casting marks were dressed smooth so as to not start a crack, needless to say, they were X-rayed during the inspection
@clockdva20
@clockdva20 5 жыл бұрын
Off the top my head , it was a production road car cast block they used high mileage at that , and then left outside apparently . Not sure if was from the BMW 2002 series cars with a different stroke but they used a standard production block . That Turbo I am guessing was original ment for a truck . The lag must have been amazing waiting for that to spool up. But very typical of the day when many teams still used off the shelf parts. Great piece of history though.
@Juhnu
@Juhnu 4 жыл бұрын
These are the kind of guys who don't need torque wrenches, they can just do it perfectly by hand.
@cargofan1477
@cargofan1477 8 жыл бұрын
5:00 Paul Rosche "Nocken-Paule" R.I.P !
@p1fly
@p1fly 7 жыл бұрын
Cargofan Master engine builder thank God for this guy we have some of the best engines ever produced
@powersliding
@powersliding 6 жыл бұрын
the only man who could make a stock block from a road car to the most powerful engine in f1..rest in peace
@philippbecker5392
@philippbecker5392 10 ай бұрын
Great Video! Nice to see Nocken Paule 👍
@TRWRepa
@TRWRepa 6 жыл бұрын
sauber ! bmw immer gut !
@n1t3h4wk4
@n1t3h4wk4 6 жыл бұрын
Legendary Megatron !
@edwardrichardson8254
@edwardrichardson8254 5 жыл бұрын
They boosted these engines up to 80PSI. For comparison, a Bugatti Chiron’s turbos boost to 18PSI.
@VectorOfKnowledge
@VectorOfKnowledge 3 жыл бұрын
Throw that into a golf cart, and you'd have a beast of a car.
@sandynahar7667
@sandynahar7667 Жыл бұрын
I think...the most amazing engine in F1 history..
@gustavohenriqueF1
@gustavohenriqueF1 7 жыл бұрын
2:27 - Grande NelSHOW Piquet. MITO.
@jacksmith3189
@jacksmith3189 6 жыл бұрын
Artisans at work Perfection
@ronchappel4812
@ronchappel4812 9 ай бұрын
4:05 😃 Great photo!
@Boltronical
@Boltronical 8 жыл бұрын
Dat turbo...
@mverbaan3381
@mverbaan3381 7 жыл бұрын
That is no turbo...... that is the drum of a washing machine... ;)
@Xsidon
@Xsidon 3 жыл бұрын
@@mverbaan3381 it looks like a turbofan engine attached to a combustion engine lol
@iNDOmOTO1
@iNDOmOTO1 6 жыл бұрын
It still amaze me how technology works, thank God for smart people.
@lucagoldoni2413
@lucagoldoni2413 4 жыл бұрын
Inizio anni 80, i materiali erano quelli che erano, le conoscenze anche......4 cilindri 1.500 cc mono turbo: 1.280 cv!! Fantastico!!! TOP TOP TOP!
@joshgreaves9934
@joshgreaves9934 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! I’m sure this engine is similar to the Ford 4-15T 4 cylinders, 1.5 litre turbo. I saw one on a dyno ages ago, I’m sure it made around 1000bhp. As said great video.
@mbchannel1037
@mbchannel1037 6 жыл бұрын
Very satisfying video.
@jasonmames5329
@jasonmames5329 4 жыл бұрын
Wow man this makes me wish that I pursued a career in motor mechanics or some sort of engineering 😥😥
@VTLIFE-so4dc
@VTLIFE-so4dc 4 жыл бұрын
Legend has it, the core blocks were left outside to weather, and mechanics would piss on them, over time ,before they were brought back in, and "blueprinted" and assembly began. As an American, of German heritage, this seems like just the right thing.
@patbutete1722
@patbutete1722 7 ай бұрын
Believe that and you will believe anything mate!
@TheManLab7
@TheManLab7 7 жыл бұрын
That turbo is almost as big as the engine! 😳
@flakey7832
@flakey7832 6 жыл бұрын
the good old way to build a f1 engine: hand tools and experience
@williamlucass9335
@williamlucass9335 9 жыл бұрын
beautiful awesome work.
@ferrumlynx1914
@ferrumlynx1914 7 жыл бұрын
All of this is so German.
@SaWuDOHC
@SaWuDOHC 3 жыл бұрын
4:14 interesting that they mounted the throttle right ahead of the compressor wheel.
@archi_damos
@archi_damos 6 жыл бұрын
Great video for an amazing engine! camshafts specs?
@andynixon2820
@andynixon2820 7 жыл бұрын
In a rebuilt normal road engine you'd expect the bores to show hone marks for retaining oil , but these looked polished which is really interesting . These BMW boys must know there stuff .
@barryfowles-zl5ib
@barryfowles-zl5ib 5 жыл бұрын
With BMW motor is their middle name.
@gerry343
@gerry343 7 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that so many are involved with assembling the engine- I would have thought it would be done by one man.
@stevefuller1779
@stevefuller1779 6 жыл бұрын
When these engines were new, the cylinder blocks would be put outside to "weather" and the mechanics were even encouraged to "P" on them, apparently it makes the castings tougher! Probably smell funny when first started too!
@patgill4968
@patgill4968 5 жыл бұрын
I heard they used old blocks from warranty return engines, already stress relieved, then they left them outside,
@Virtuoso23
@Virtuoso23 6 жыл бұрын
Somebody told me that the guy that let the gasket fall had to clean the toilets in the workshop for 2 weeks. Serious note: BMW has been able to build an engine doing up to 1200 HP in qualifies, and 800 in a race, that looks like an engine with nothing special, like you can go into a BMW showroom and buy one: that is insane. Some years later, they put some of the tech into the 4 cyl 2.0 on the 320is (190 HP and high revs), and the 6 cyl 3.0 in the M3, turning the E30 series into something that really made sports car's history.
@yxng_metro
@yxng_metro 6 жыл бұрын
They just rebuilded their own engine that they made.
@Stormas3000
@Stormas3000 5 жыл бұрын
This is the m12 engine right? They made this engine from the M10 that powered the 2002's,520i e28 and the 318i e30( early versions)
@GB-vn1tf
@GB-vn1tf 5 жыл бұрын
I believe you're correct. I know its before M3. Just the block though. Dry sump and different head.
@SrMatanza86
@SrMatanza86 5 жыл бұрын
I miss BMW F1!! 😪
@hugoparker1427
@hugoparker1427 8 жыл бұрын
That would be the best job. Those are some lucky dudes.
@abdullahking7850
@abdullahking7850 4 жыл бұрын
Good work
@jackzac
@jackzac 5 жыл бұрын
the size of that turbo !!
@mplewp
@mplewp 7 жыл бұрын
Thats a manly 4 banger ^^
@FrankValchiria
@FrankValchiria 7 жыл бұрын
when i saw the turbo , than i understood.
@Big2009Gee
@Big2009Gee 7 жыл бұрын
FrankValchiria I know what you mean old turbos are so inefficient they have to be huge.
@HighHPandTorque
@HighHPandTorque 5 жыл бұрын
why in the engine block to 0:55, is reworked I speak of refined and polished halves ?
@Blackberry627
@Blackberry627 7 жыл бұрын
Too pro. 🔥💪🏼🛎
@ko799
@ko799 6 жыл бұрын
BMW Power💪💪💪
@nicolasbroodryk3407
@nicolasbroodryk3407 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent men.
@ar_pe4012
@ar_pe4012 6 жыл бұрын
As it is „basically“ an M10 engine I am very proud that my 1502 is at least some kind of an F1 car! :D
@turnip5465
@turnip5465 5 жыл бұрын
the only close thing to the M10 engine here is the block but even that is most likely reworked lol
@randy438
@randy438 5 жыл бұрын
"There's no way this made 1280 horsepow.... *sees the size of the turbo* oh... I see"
@searchthetruth1981
@searchthetruth1981 5 жыл бұрын
😜🤣🤣🤣👍
@danielromeo1859
@danielromeo1859 5 жыл бұрын
Jajajaja
@Slaktrax
@Slaktrax 3 жыл бұрын
Approximately 1400hp for qualifying.
@codycall6513
@codycall6513 6 жыл бұрын
I’ll take two please. Thank you.
@joshgreaves9934
@joshgreaves9934 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome 👍🏿👍🏿
@simonjeacle4732
@simonjeacle4732 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, vert interesting, but, there are far too many close up shots. Camera work in general is very poor. What a shame.
@frankblack1481
@frankblack1481 2 жыл бұрын
Putting the ‘M’ in #ASMR 😂
@smoke5272
@smoke5272 8 жыл бұрын
can anyone clear for me whats the thing they fixing on 3:12 .. looks like diesel injection pump is it??
@WifeBTR123
@WifeBTR123 8 жыл бұрын
It is oil pump for dry sump oiling system.
@DoriFord
@DoriFord 8 жыл бұрын
Kugelfischer fuel injection pump - it was popular until early 90s, you could pump huge amount of fuel easily
@memadmax69
@memadmax69 7 жыл бұрын
Dry sump oil pump
@ETicketM
@ETicketM 6 жыл бұрын
It is a Kugelfischer mechanical fuel injection pump. Similar to a direct injection pump but the injectors are in the intake plenum not the combustion chambers.
@fuckjewtube69
@fuckjewtube69 5 жыл бұрын
That looks like a fuel injection pump. You can see the 2 blue fittings could be supply and return lines and then there's 4 line for each cylinder. But I don't know for sure.
@mcqcjc8409
@mcqcjc8409 6 жыл бұрын
Why is there no honing lines on the cylinder bore? What is the science behind that?
@MM-ev4sc
@MM-ev4sc 6 жыл бұрын
good gemacht
@MrWoowootila
@MrWoowootila 5 жыл бұрын
Wonder if modern F1 engines have gear driven timing. General aviation still uses it on its air-cooled engines and the engine of the F1 bolts to the body similar to general aviation.
@steenlassen5718
@steenlassen5718 7 жыл бұрын
That turbosize explains quite a lot: It is more a turbo with an engine, than an engine with a turbo!!!
@Big2009Gee
@Big2009Gee 7 жыл бұрын
Steen Lassen I know what you mean these old turbos where so inefficient they had to be huge.
@oldleatherhandsfriends4053
@oldleatherhandsfriends4053 6 жыл бұрын
It also has to supply 80 odd pounds of boost to an engine spinning at 10K+ rpm, so it has to be huge.
@Buzdu22
@Buzdu22 2 жыл бұрын
Napier discovered this with their compound turbo aircraft engines. The turbos were developing more power than the piston engines they were attached to. This is why they soon switched to turboprop engines
@jerrychase4177
@jerrychase4177 3 жыл бұрын
Throwback Event Proposal, Penske Offenhauser vs BMW 4 cylinder engine build, dyno and performance comparison at Indianapolis in 2022...
@gtr161
@gtr161 6 жыл бұрын
Old school mechanics, visible and tactile - no fancy pants energy recovery or super dooper electronics/computer systems here...
@mrnobody8777
@mrnobody8777 5 жыл бұрын
3:58min mein Dad mit auf dem Meisterschaftsfoto in der Mitte 💪 #stillproud !!!!
@Fjr1360
@Fjr1360 4 жыл бұрын
You really are lucky
@Apex032
@Apex032 5 жыл бұрын
People who love them work
@kopronko
@kopronko 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks. But, what kind of piston material and brand did they used in this planet's one of Best engine ???
@kevinb9407
@kevinb9407 5 жыл бұрын
So wish I could have taken my time like this when I worked in a remanufacturing plant, and not have been driven by a merciless time clock/boss to get 600 or more of these done in a lesser amount of time.
@Inazuma68
@Inazuma68 6 жыл бұрын
Go Nelson Piquet 👍👌
@chrissilva5659
@chrissilva5659 9 жыл бұрын
they didn't use torque wrenches at all it was very strange.i woulda figured they would.
@meandkg
@meandkg 8 жыл бұрын
+Chris Silva They were, unibody torque wrench, i.e. each wrench has a 5nm rating etc, so you have to have 20 of these uni wrenches to equal an actual torque wrench its faster though
@Dierwolf2000
@Dierwolf2000 8 жыл бұрын
thats pretty freakin genius....
@chrissilva5659
@chrissilva5659 8 жыл бұрын
Huh ok.ill watch again.
@artmchugh9283
@artmchugh9283 8 жыл бұрын
Chris Silva noticed that too , guess those old dudes know what is jussssst right😄
@burlatsdemontaigne6147
@burlatsdemontaigne6147 6 жыл бұрын
Chris Silva ____. Not all bolts have to be torqued. They only torque the ones that need it.
@brunomanco7529
@brunomanco7529 5 жыл бұрын
That 1200hp engine only has 1 cam per head operating induction and exhaust?
@BadAssEngineering
@BadAssEngineering 6 жыл бұрын
So the throttle body is placed before the Turbo ?? *interesting*
@sourlas2
@sourlas2 8 жыл бұрын
Throttle body before the turbo? Haven't seen that again
@AussieBassplayer
@AussieBassplayer 5 жыл бұрын
How many engines did they run on a race weekend?
@mrmysterious6006
@mrmysterious6006 6 жыл бұрын
Was that a pushrod engine? I only saw one camshaft
@ianbradley7215
@ianbradley7215 6 жыл бұрын
If anyone ever threw a ball to you and you instinctively reached out and caught it, doing intuitive maths to put your hand under the arc of the ball, chances are it's because you've caught a lot of balls (wait, am I on the internet? There's no way a ball analogy could backfire!). This is what you're seeing here. Each measurement, wipe, tighten looks so obvious, because they make it look like catching a ball. Love it to bits. Kudos engineers :)
@JoeHeiserA
@JoeHeiserA 6 жыл бұрын
Is that a composite compressor housing for the turbo?
@andrewwilson8317
@andrewwilson8317 6 жыл бұрын
Very nice but pretty simple engine. Looks quite crude when compared to a modern sports bike engine but can't complain at the numbers,a massive turbo can make any engine go crazy! Can you just imagine it off boost? The turbo lag must be awful?
@thebigmacd
@thebigmacd 6 жыл бұрын
These engines did not build boost until around 7000 rpm. Search for "bmw f1 turbo dyno plot" in Google images and there is a dyno plot as first result. They don't even start the plot until 7000 rpm.
@Jmetsastaja
@Jmetsastaja 8 жыл бұрын
Any one know what block they are using? is the rumour true that its basic m10 block and they get them from customers cars from service.. (e21 etc.) :D
@guelilamohamedisslah558
@guelilamohamedisslah558 8 жыл бұрын
yeah used M10 block
@schwanzelstock1071
@schwanzelstock1071 8 жыл бұрын
Had to do at least 100,000 up to 115,000 km that way they could examine the block and be sure all the stretching already took place. So they got world champion once with blocks that did 100.000 km :-P
@steenlassen5718
@steenlassen5718 7 жыл бұрын
The block is from a standard streetcar, belive it or not! But like Schwanzel Stock writes: They were rather "matured", so they were certain there was no stress in them.
@paulweatherley3140
@paulweatherley3140 7 жыл бұрын
Greg McKee, the staff were also told that if they needed to pee, that they should go outside and relieve themselves over the engine blocks that were outside being weathered.
@MrKinir
@MrKinir 6 жыл бұрын
I see you guys all got your information from the same video, repeating the same 'legend' over and over again.
@keyboard101101
@keyboard101101 5 жыл бұрын
You want an engine to make big power and be reliable. It’s Gonna have a Closed deck Iron Block, gear driven timing, and piston cooling jets. Lightweight should never be the focus on an Engine block it should be overbuilt, on the internals sure, lightweight forged pistons and rods.
@p1fly
@p1fly 6 жыл бұрын
Knocken Paul, master engine builder rip
@thepartypotatopooper6354
@thepartypotatopooper6354 6 жыл бұрын
no headgasket? or are they using the o-ring style?
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