BMW F850GS Review Update - 30000 Miles - From a Real Owner

[@marclyons8637]

Hi, first of all you are the only person to do a proper review on this excellent machine objectively and after decent mileage. Many thanks! I recently swapped my 2022 R1250gs for a 2022 f850gs Rallye and have put around 5000km on it during the last 3 months including an onroad/offroad tour of Norway. I am seriously impressed and even though this is my first mid-size GS I have owned four of its big brothers (just for reference:). I agree 100% with everything you cover. What I would like to add is that its relatively high weight (on paper) is not the issue a lot of people are moaning about. Yes its a little bit top heavy at a stand still, but under way the kilos (pounds) disappear quite rapidly. After owning five GS's I'm left wondering whether the little beemer is the best? Right now, I think it probably is, but I'll wait to get some decent mileage (as you have done) before making my final verdict. Once again, many thanks for your great videos on this bike. Regards//Marc

[@larryvanputten4048]

Thanks for the great review! I had several bikes in the last 5 years, like the Yamaha XT1200, the Triumph Tiger 800a, a BMW R1200RS, a G650XCountry and now, since 1 year a 2020 F850GS Rallye. For me it’s the right compromise between All/offroads and sport/touringbikes. You can travel well on a larger distance with enough luggage possibilities and you can do adventureriding and light offroading in a very acceptable way! This one will stay!

[@LGAH29]

You can’t beat buying another one as the best endorsement! 👍🏻 my GSA arrives on Monday can’t wait!

[@MotoTravelUSA]

Congrats on the new bike👍

[@albertomendoza-betower-4182]

Congratulations on your new F850

[@jimbob67]

Thanks for the review. I've only done 16500 miles on mine a little over 3 years. Like you said it would be nice if it was a little lighter. But otherwise it is a really good underated motorcycle.

[@mihaimihai9254]

Thanks a lot for your honest review! This motorcycle will be on my short list when I'll be about to change my Honda NC 750 X (which's probably gonna happen next year). And you're totally right. As long as we can't have all bikes we want, we must make the perfect compromise. Wish you all the best!

[@MotoTravelUSA]

Good luck with your purchase, it's a hard decision for sure with all the great bikes out there. Thanks for watching ✌️

[@asianelectrics6308]

great review - would like to know if could write a few lines about the noise levels while riding on the highways [ 30,000 Miles ] - do you want anything to be changed about the noise from the twin cylinder -

[@wokeupandsmellthecoffee214]

Awesome review and so glad you bought another one. ive owned my 2019 sport from new and just covered 8k miles but hope to start using it more and more now im retired. ride safe and hi from the UK.

[@jamestorregrossa1185]

Great demonstration. I’m a little under 5‘7“ I’ve been thinking about the 750 GS, do you think I would be a candidate for the 850 GS?

[@andybiker2236]

Hi thank you for sharing i have now pick up my bike this week and I hope to have as much fun as you did . I look forward to more videos and thank you for the help in making my mind up on which bike to order I love it God bless

[@MotoTravelUSA]

Enjoy your bike 👍 thanks for watching.

[@davepyer]

Great video. Thanks for posting. 👍

[@MotoTravelUSA]

I appreciate that. Thanks for watching 👍

[@torquer9669]

Thanks for the update! I am trying to decide on my next bike and knowing some info about longevity is very useful! Beautiful bike, enjoy 🙂

[@abelgleason6913]

First off: great video. In fact your whole series seems very well done: professional, concise, and well produced. I have a '22 F850GSA, and just did the front and rear Tractive Suspension upgrades over the winter (but have yet to be able to ride it due to late winter weather in the northeast bleeding over into early spring). Any chance that you could do a video review of just the Tractive Fork Cartridge, including any gouge you might have on different settings for different riding conditions? Near as I can tell, there aren't any F850-specific Tractive reviews here on KZbin, and getting your insight on the upgrade after so many miles would be really enlightening. Keep up the fine work!

[@virtusferrum7708]

Agreed! While I don’t have the miles on mine you do, I’m very pleased with it. I’d love a 1250… but when push comes to shove, I would have to add a 1250, because I can’t say goodby to my 850. It’s that good, that unique… it’s a forever bike for me 👍

[@me_roving]

I did a test ride last Saturday on the 850 gs and the 1250 gs. Somehow i did not like the 1250...the sheer hooliganism of the 850 is crazy. 1250 is a bit too well behaved. Not my style...

[@Denis-gk8dj]

thanks for the good review, the bike looks cool

[@alvarosolis7837]

Great video as always! Nice colour your new bike!

[@MotoTravelUSA]

Thanks, I really do appreciate that.

[@brianmetzger8607]

Great series on this machine. Unfortunately, they’re aren’t a lot of real (owner) reviews on these. I have a heavily modded KTM 890 ADV -R & am awaiting a new 22 GS850 Rallye in Blue/Gold. I’d love to see some more info on your new machine. Thx for sharing!

[@MotoTravelUSA]

Thanks ✌️I'll have more videos soon. Appreciate you watching.

[@TheElicoA]

I found your review and you convinced me, I am going to get that one, as my first motorcycle. I really like it but was still debating with the tracer 9, but I have to say I am convinced after watching. Thank you, I subscribed :)

[@albertomendoza-betower-4182]

Great video and motorcycle. Thanks for share. Hey, when are you going to show how we can change the spark plugs?

[@MotoTravelUSA]

Thank you. Lots of people do ask about that. I'll try to film the next time I replace them and let you know.

[@MagahQueiroz]

Thanks for your review, it was very helpful!

[@MotoTravelUSA]

You're welcome, appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment. ✌️

[@l00ks12]

Great review after so many miles! And since you did so many miles on it, have you experienced some increase in engine vibrations especially on track or highways? Thanks.

[@tonyiandiplock5825]

Very interesting the headstock bearings bolt coming loose and the battery terminal are the same old problems from the 800 gs models that I have experienced myself.

[@chadkline4268]

Maybe a dab of Locktite?

[@edgarpicazo5993]

Love your vids. I have questions if you don't mind. 1: Any issues with the notorious Camshaft/Rocker arm diamond-like-coating (DLC)? 2: What mileage did you do a valve adjustment? Vs just an inspection. 3: What oil brand and weight have you used all this time?

[@matthieumoreau5125]

Great Video, thank you for the detailed issues description. I got a f850GS with Akrapovich exhaust and the same moth crash bars and skid plate. This is my set up from day one and I am feeling that there might be on the bike some "extra" vibration in the handle bar and left peg at high speed ( 90 mph ). I was wondering if it could come from the fact that the motech is anchored on the bike on the lower part of the engine as well as the top part on the frame bolt. Did you notice anything like that or a difference before and after putting the crash bar and/or with you new GS without the bars? I was mentioning the Akrapovic exhaust because you can feel that the bike sound way loader than a stock one and you can feel vibration in the handle bar while the bike is stopped ( nothing too bad of course but probably more than with a stock exhaust ). Cheers

[@fahdalismail5494]

This is a great review thanks! I myself own f850 adv 2019 and have done almost 20k km since I bought it new. I enjoyed so much however I’m not too keen anymore into bmws in general, my bike seem to have a common radiator leaking issue which as i’ve read others have had as well, I also saw some other issues melting glue coming from the tank, the tank lid sometimes doesn’t open. I live in Saudi Arabia, don’t know if this much heat this bike cannot handle, but it was designed to be a world tourer I guess?? Therefore it should handle the heat and the cold and all types of weather. I don’t believe I would buy another European bike again as it seems to be too much of drama for me especially coming from Kawasaki.

[@mhed67]

Dear, im also in Al khobar.. booking 850 gs next week. Your contact number please just to discuss couple of questions. Thank you

[@drmanojmanohar]

Oh it’s sad to hear this. So reliability issues ? Any idea of the latest bikes- have they fixed the issues you mentioned?

[@waynesbsf9532]

Mine was the keyless gas cap.. on very 1st trip gas cap failed .. happened so often I carried a torx driver in my side bags to unscrew the cap.. after 3 dealer fixes.im now sporting a manual locking cap.. no more issues.

[@timeslikethese6379]

Thanks for the long-term review. Two questions: How is the engine heat on your legs? And why did you not buy the Adventure model with crash bars, since you go off-road a lot? Look forward to your reply. Thanks a bunch.

[@MotoTravelUSA]

Thanks 🙏 I live and ride in Florida, so it's hot most of the time, I haven't really noticed excessive heat from the engine that makes it uncomfortable. I purchased the regular GS as opposed to the GSA because I wanted to have a choice of what crash protection to put on. Some after market crash bars seem more robust than the OEM ones.

[@timeslikethese6379]

@@MotoTravelUSA Thanks for the response. Have you decided what crash protection to use?

[@MotoTravelUSA]

You're welcome. I had the sw motech on the 19 and I put givi on the 22... I liked the sw motech skid plate MUCH better..

[@michaelvollmer9491]

Thanks for this really nice review. Is it possible to get a bigger windscreen?

[@MotoTravelUSA]

Yes, there a many options for a bigger windscreen. I use the Madstad windscreen which has side wind deflectors, multiple sizes, and is interchangeable with the OEM windscreen to swap back and forth for different adventures. Thanks for the kind words 👍👍

[@3rdaxis649]

I absolutely adore my F850GS:)

[@arc001]

Me too, perfect machine in my opinion.

[@hanswolters1781]

Great vid, I am retired now so I finally get to ride mine a lot more, including on dirt. I am still running the Anakees but was wondering what tires you find work best for mixed surface riding?

[@thunderbayrider01]

2019 850GS with 3,300 miles. Get Sergant custom seat. Will make a world of difference in comfort. Did for me.

[@Keeping6_]

Was that a handlebar spacer I saw there? How did you find the difference? Who makes it? Thanks in advance, love your videos.

[@agliem1]

Great video! Purchased my F850GSA couple weeks ago. Very comfortable to ride. I saw a video on KZbin where a guy posted about an air box issue and the engine getting dusted. Have you heard of anything like this occurring? May have been an earlier model year. My bike is a 2022.

[@toyotahonda8921]

Wow. This is why i am planning to buy one

[@narc3267]

Very good video! Also, have you had any problems with radiator leak, maybe oil consumption?

[@erniechapman3899]

Oh, I am from Murrieta, Ca

[@zakariazaroual2763]

great video

[@GlennCooke]

Thanks for the great videos. Question… I want to upgraded my 2022 F850GS windscreen. Which one would you recommend? Which is the one on your bike in this video?

[@MotoTravelUSA]

Thanks 👍 I have the Madstad and it has performed well. Comes with the side winglets and offers a place to mount a ram ball to mount gos front and center

[@angrywhitemale1195]

Just bought a F 850 GS adventure after a 3K mile trip to Baja. The 650 I took was too small.

[@PatricioGarcia1973]

It’s a great bike, I have one, done close to 40k km on dirt roads, and cross country riding. Only issues I have had was two voltage regulator/ rectifier and stator failure, don’t know if BMW has fixed the issue, but is a serious let down. Specially considering the price of the bike.

[@mihai.marinescu.racing]

Hi, i would lile to ask you how you deal with the small fuel tank capacity on your long rides? I find it anoying you can only do 270km on a full tank, and for long rides... you have to stop often... the only downside of this bike 🙂

[@adolfogarcia9489]

Really nice video! I have a doubt I am new in this type of bikes I changed from a Harley to a f850 gs 2021 and I dont have much experience in off road but Its one of the reasons I changed to this bike. My tires are like the ones on you 2022 gs, are this okey to do off road or I should change them in order to do off road on my gs?

[@MotoTravelUSA]

Thanks, much appreciated 👍 congratulations on your new bike. I would keep those tires on while breaking in the bike, but change them out once you break it in if you want to do more off-road. The stock tires have been okay on really firm gravel and well maintained forest roads, but they don't have any grip on looser stuff. I just changed to the trailmax mission (my forth set) to do lots of off-road in a few weeks. Good luck with your bike man, it's a fun one.

[@adolfogarcia9489]

@@MotoTravelUSA really appreciate your answer!! Nice videos! You got yourself a new subscriber! Greetings from Mexico 🇲🇽🤙🏽

[@MCGMB]

This is an excellent review and it's clear you like the bike. But why did you buy a '22? Seems the 30k one is doing very well.

[@MotoTravelUSA]

Thanks, much appreciated. Good question but hard to fully explain in a reply. Short answer is: get full 3 year/36 warranty, always liked the look of the rallye edition and really like the blue and gold, wanted to start from scratch with mods, like the minor tweaks they've done to it.

[@MCGMB]

@@MotoTravelUSA Ah, that makes perfect sense. Thanks for the quick response.

[@kennofish656]

@@MotoTravelUSA Congratulations. I've got a '22 on order myself. Just wondering what the minor tweaks you're referring to are.

[@johnpenick3371]

I keep hearing BDR, what's that in terms with? New to the adventure :)

[@ryanr4181]

Just found your channel and subscribed i ride a 21 street glide I’m looking to jump into the dual sport world but I’m a short guy only 5 foot 7 do you think this would be ok for short guys??? Or can you please do a video on a good bike for short guys please

[@jetmanwalking]

Great video, thank you! Did you consider the 1250 GS before deciding to purchase your new 2022 850? I'm still torn between the extra power, Telelever front suspension and direct drive.

[@MotoTravelUSA]

Thanks 👍 yes, I did consider the 1250 and it's an awesome bike, but I'm most interested in exploring more off road riding and doing more BDRs, so for me the 850 fits better for that type of riding. Both are great choices for sure.

[@jamesjlopez]

@@MotoTravelUSA hi thanks for taking the time to make this. Is it the extra 45lbs of the 1250 gs that you feel wouldn’t be good for what you want to do on the BDRs? Or something else, if so can you elaborate? If the weight then wouldn’t the cylinders sticking out actually make the 1250gs about the same or easier to pickup than a 850gs (heard that somewhere, haven’t lifted the 850 but it would be lower right? I ask as I’ve only done an off road training day and would be interested in doing the easier parts of the BDR routes, gravel roads and fire roads. Though most of my riding would be country back roads the majority of the time. Thanks!

[@tjs201971]

Hello thank you for the a great review!! What is your opinion on the f850 ga for those who are new riders who want a all around motorcycle ?

[@MotoTravelUSA]

It’s a great all around motorcycle for just about everything. With the different ride modes, traction control, and AB’s it can be beginner friendly. However, I would normally recommend getting a lighter bike for someone that has never ridden before to learn the nuances of riding. Something in the 250-500cc range is usually a great bike to start with. Although it is a catch 22 because you will want something more after riding a bit. The 850 can also be a bit tall for some people and they may not be able to flat foot at stops, which is an important consideration when starting out. Good luck and have fun with whatever decision you make!

[@tjs201971]

@@MotoTravelUSA thanks you for the reply back! I was also looking at the f750 gs which I will go with to start!!

[@mabsbry1318]

Hi. You have adjustable front forks, where did you get the top cap from? Thanks

[@frankdove5421]

Moi aussi, j'adore la mienne. Je ne veux pas la changer pour une 1250 gs car je n'aime pas le telelever qui gomme trop les sensations. Je trouve ma f 850 gs très équilibrée. Merci pour ton bilan. From Paris.

[@SquirrelMasterT1]

Hey, I just test drove the 2023 F850GS and I noticed a jerky throttle response at low RPMs. My passenger noticed it too. Is this an issue with your bike?

[@onthepegs]

Hi, you mentioned vibrations... You mean on-road or off-road? This bike shouldn't vibrate on-road at all. Or does it? :)

[@seabumbb3067]

Nice review, thanks. I plan to replace my '21 KTM 890 Adventure. I would love the KTM except for the horrid wind buffeting which makes me HATE it. It is the worst of any bike I have ever owned (I have only owned nine bikes and only have about 650,000 miles of riding time, so maybe I am too notice to judge the wind....) I am have been looking at mid-level replacements and there are a couple of the Triple Blacks available near me so I am seriously considering this swap very soon. However... I would like your opinion on wind buffeting. I do not want to make this mistake again. I agree with your comments about the weight and size for more off road trips BDR rides, etc. My current largest bike is the Pan America. I actually love this bike, except it has the worst headlights of any bike I have ever owned. The light just cannot be adjusted to feel comfortable at night above 40mph, and that is pathetic! I know, "do not ride at night" is the answer many tell me, but what kind of long trip rider always makes it to a hotel or camping spot, every day, before nightfall? Definitely not me. So I have been considering swapping both bikes for the 1250GSA but, as you said, the 850 just seems more practical. Okay, I wrote too much simply to ask about wind buffeting, but thanks for the answer and for the nice review of the 850.

[@MotoTravelUSA]

🤔 that's a tough answer. I haven't ridden the 890, so I can't compare directly with it. I'd say try to test ride if you can, but here are my thoughts: I use to have touring screen on the f850gs to help with buffering, but I've been doing so much off road that it became a hassle to bring bothe screens, so I just use the stock OEM screen now. The OEM screen doesn't offer much wind protection at all, which I appreciate when ridding off-road. On the highway, which I've ridden a lot as well, it isn't terrible unless the wind is kicking up and passing 18 wheelers. Overall I've learned to live with it and take the good with the bad. It's not anymore than I've experienced on other bikes. Hope that helps and good luck with your choice.. lots of great options out there for sure.

[@seabumbb3067]

@@MotoTravelUSA Thanks for the reply. I understand about the difference with on and off road. I obviously ride both (almost 4000 miles of only dirt on the Pan America). The KTM is so bad with wind that it makes my brain hurt after 30 minutes. I did not notice this on several test rides, so test rides seem to be a fail since I cannot find any shop that we allow me to ride long enough. I will see about renting one. I just noticed that there is very little weight difference between the 850 and 1250 - that surprised me.

[@davereinhart9933]

Thank you for doing this. I have an 850 with 13,000 miles and these are all just good warnings. What windshield are you running on yours? Are the adjustable front forks worth the price?

[@MotoTravelUSA]

The Madstad windscreen is what is on the 19. It adds adjustability and the ability to easily add a ram mount for gps. I just installed the adjustable front fork on my 22 and can't give an opinion yet, but the first few miles I've ridden on it, I felt a substantial difference. Thanks for watching ✌️

[@davidcarter6737]

I wondered if you'd considered the GSA before getting the rallye edition? I enjoy my rallye 2019, but do consider it a heavy old thing to push around in the garage and thus the bigger tank doesn't interest me much and I could strap a fuel bladder if needed. I don't think there's any one perfect bike, but this model suits me. I noticed you did the NE BDR, how was it with this bike? I'm considering it myself. Enjoy the channel and look forward to more episodes. Thanks.

[@MotoTravelUSA]

Thanks 👍. I did consider the GSA [along with pretty much every other bike in the class], but not for long. I didn't want the extra weight and I just personally like the looks of the standard version. I didn't do any expert sections on the NEBDR- The bike did well, definitely much more of a challenge than the MABDR, but the 850gs held its own.

[@ronbeliveau4959]

@@MotoTravelUSA I did some of the rougher NEBDR sections and was happy I had my bike picker upper with me. His name is Pete!

[@skinnyrides]

@@MotoTravelUSA what are the MABDR and the NEBDR?

[@droflivelife]

I bought a 750 for the low seat height. I'm only 70kg and I struggle with the weight. Do you think you could have done all your trips on a 750?

[@martyn_g]

Why can’t companies build a glitch free adventure bike? If any bike needs reliability, it’s an adventure bike! It puts me off anything that is tech heavy. It’s why I’m looking at a T7 as an upgrade to my DR next year.

[@jrodriguez8216]

Why did you buy a 850 GS 2022 and not just go up a level and get the 1200 GS. I really enjoyed you reviews of both 10k and 30k miles. Thanks

[@MotoTravelUSA]

While the 1200/1250 is an amazing bike and many people take it on very hard off pavement routes, I just feel the 850 fits me better for the type of riding that I've been doing off road. With the 21 inch front wheel, slightly lighter, riding on it rather than lower 'in it," and I like the feel of its balance and ride. I'd love the shaft drive and few more bells and whistles of the 1200/1250, but the 850 just feels right to me. Thanks for the kind words 👍

[@larryvanputten4048]

Question: did you mount another, aftermarket front spring system? At your first point of comment you show images of a black and red button at the right side where normally the big alu bolt is. I don’t regognize that…

[@MotoTravelUSA]

Yes, I added the tractive fork cartridge and it is a great upgrade, highly recommend it

[@larryvanputten4048]

@@MotoTravelUSA Okay, thx for your answer!

[@awaketoe455]

Great update on the bike. I'm strongly considering getting an 850 gsa myself but I gotta wonder, any reason why you didn't get the 850 GS Adventure model? Pros/cons GS/gsa?

[@Demjan85]

Standard gs is narrow and more importantly lighter. That's about it. GSA has wider footpegs(which can be changed on standard bike) slightly different brake pedal and that's about it mechanically

[@ronbeliveau4959]

What are you using for wind protection? I see you have some added "winglets". I am considering an aftermarket screen, but maybee the winglets and a clip on extension for long road sections will work for me. I use the bike pretty much like you and feel the same way. I like it, but would like lighter weight for off pavement.

[@MotoTravelUSA]

The winglets are included with the madstad windscreen which is the screen I have on. It has worked great.

[@jxw8086]

thanks for the view. and i have a question. in the view 01:35. they are better than HYPERPRO? and how can i get them.

[@MotoTravelUSA]

You're welcome 👍 my research leads me to believe this is better than just a hyperpro spring replacement. You can get it from touratech or a tractive dealer, they're the same sealed cartridge just branded differently. AND it makes a night and day difference. Thanks for watching ✌️

[@shahramborna9875]

Hi thanks for nice and complete experinces you had with this bike , I am considering to buy f850 GS i am not off road person i think i will use it 90% on road but i want to go for touring with my wife two up and also i want to use it in daily base from home to work in Trafic, it is heavy i know but i like this bike what do you recommend? thanks

[@MotoTravelUSA]

It's a great bike for on road touring, you'll just need to get a bigger windscreen for wind protection on the highway. It's a good commuter too, I also use my bike to commute. lots of people use it for two up riding and it's definitely usable that way. If I was doing mostly long distance two up I'd probably opt for something with a little more power and a little bigger, although this is capable. Good luck with whatever bike you get.

[@fabulousonwheels]

Any oil consumption issues? I have 2022 F850 GSA and I’m see low oil levels after 2500 miles from my first service.

[@usanewsamerica]

Hi, I am thinking of getting the same motorcycle, but my concern is, my daughter loves to ride with me. Do you think it would no problem for this motorcycle to handle two people? By the way we are small lol. 150 pounds and 100 pounds so 250 pounds for both of us! I like your videos and thank you 🙏

[@vstm3950]

Why did you change to newer so soon? Was missing some features?

[@mamlukavlogs6353]

I am a G310GS owner . I have plans to buy a bigger bike to go for pavement touring with my wife and luggage and most probably I might settle at F850 . one of my requirement is the bike should have enough torque at the low rev range especially in the traffic bottlenecks .what do you suggest ? GS or GSA ?

[@joaodomingues362]

And on city comuting on stop start trafic in hot days does the engine and exaust heat is aceptable or it gets too hot? And after geting some speed it keeps hot or it cools down? Kind regards

[@jacolandman3808]

Do you have a close second bike in mind that i can compare to this bike I’m thinking of buying

[@edmadro3788]

Hi, I am 6"1'' would you say the bike can be set up adequately to accommodate my frame?

[@cdnrider6200]

im in the market for this bike but, every time i hear vibration my ears perk up . where do you feel vibration and is it manageable?

[@michaelmanianglung8315]

Hi bro! do dealer charge you from the electronic glitch you encounter? Tnx

[@alexandre-guzu]

I have a question indeed, why did you buy the 2022 version ?

[@erniechapman3899]

Hello I just purchased the new 2023 850F GS not the GSA I am a short rider and got the low suspension for I did not know if the extra low seat would get the back down to 32 inch seat height. I am looking forward to getting the bike soon, and what I would like to know if you could recommend after market parts to put on the bike and where to order them from?

[@MotoTravelUSA]

Congrats on your new bike. In this video I go over how I set the bike up for a trip and it includes some of my top upgrades. kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4TWZJhqfbGMfs0 The places I trust from parts and upgrades are: Touratech Mosko moto Doubletake mirrors RevZilla Twisted throttle Have fun with your new bike. 👍

[@SquirrelMasterT1]

Did you notice the throttle being jerky?

[@shmac96]

You have sold me on this bike! I don't know why but this seems like a better buy than the Triumph Tiger 900. Congrats on the new bike!

[@romanvavro8088]

Hi, I am in same situation now. Deciding between tiger 900 and gs 850. What did you buy at the end ?

[@chadkline4268]

@@romanvavro8088 when the decision is tough, consider support and parts availability.

[@SquirrelMasterT1]

@@romanvavro8088 same, as you both. did you figure it out?

[@royal-enfield1]

if u had to choose one , how does it compare to the triumph 850sport ?

[@troylittleford1594]

Looks like you have aftermarket front suspension?

[@MotoTravelUSA]

Yes, the tractive. I put an installation video on it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGe9k3p4mZV6pLM

[@percussion44]

I noted you had the Touratech fork cartridge installed. How much improvement did this make. I am looking at one of these now, but at 18 large, having to make upgrades at the get go is kinda annoying. Come on Bavaria, you can do better.

[@MotoTravelUSA]

I actually just installed it on the new bike. I've only ridden on road with it so far, but it is a substantial difference. No nose dive at stops, really feels planted in the turns, and feels good overall. I hear you about doing better, this or something similar should be stock on the bike. Just fyi, it's a tractive fork cartridge, which I understand is the exact same as the touratech. ✌️

[@info34612]

What comes with the Trophy model BMW 850 GS?

[@kempleksede5998]

Curious why you chose to get the F850gs and not the adventure model since you go off road regularly.

[@MotoTravelUSA]

I wanted to add after market crash bars and skid plate, plus I didn't want to have the extra weight of the additional gas and fairing. ✌️

[@Sim0es]

Is it true that in the 2022 model you can’t turn off traction control?

[@christopher.hallissy]

Would this be a good bike for a 120 mile daily commute? All highway.

[@MotoTravelUSA]

It would be doable on this bike. I would personally use an FIR or some other touring like bike for that just for the weather protection for that long of a commute. Good luck in whatever you choose.

[@christopherkendrick678]

Was wandering if you had any issues with the dynamic ESA, my 19 f850gs 28k won't change between 1 helmet/ luggage two helmets.

[@MotoTravelUSA]

I haven't had an issue like that, just the warning on the TFT that was mentioned in the video and fixed with an update. Hopefully it resolves itself or is something minor 🤞🤞 good luck

[@patdennis3751]

How is it in the area of comfort? Can you ride all day and not feel like you went 10 rounds in the ring and lost?

[@MotoTravelUSA]

It's a pretty comfortable bike. Some people don't like the stock seat, like most bikes. It is comfortable for all day riding, but if doing mainly highway, you'll want to invest in a touring windscreen like a Madstad or other one.

[@Vecihifreebird]

After a fjr or (mine was concours) does it satisfy you on highway speed? How is vibration? And what is top speed? Thank you

[@MotoTravelUSA]

Yes, totally happy with the speed/power on highway. I've never had a time where I needed more and didn't get it. The buzzines is subtle and controlled, but it is there. I haven't had an issue with it. I haven't taken it to top speed, but the speedo easily goes to 3 digits with plenty of power left.

[@mikemcmurray2506]

Scale of 1 - 10, with 10 being the highest how would you rate the vibrations? I have a Triumph Tiger Rally Pro 900 and my hands can't take the vibrations for very long at highway speed. I'd rate the Tiger at an 8 or 9 in terms of vibrations. How is this bike?

[@MotoTravelUSA]

Hey Mike, I'd rate the vibrations at a 4 for the 850gs. That rally pro 900 looks amazing, that stinks if the vibrations are that bad, hopefully it's something easy to fix like tire balance or something.

[@mikemcmurray2506]

@@MotoTravelUSA unfortunately, there is no way to fix them. I've added bar end weights, anti-vibration Roxx Risers, and Grip Puppies. Anything over 5 grand on the tach and it gets annoying. Without all that, it's just plain painful to ride. I had an Africa Twin before this and the Ptwin was significantly smoother, which surprised me. I had a Tiger 800 years ago and expected something similar. Boy was I wrong. Thanks for the feedback on how the bike feels. I'm looking to hit the Detroit dealer sometime soon for a test ride of the 850. That triple black version looks amazing.

[@mikemcmurray2506]

As an update, I traded my Triumph 900 Rally Pro for the F850GS and wow! What an improvement over the Tiger in terms of the vibrations. So much better! The BMW quick shifter is better as well. Overall, I'm happy with the bike. The Tiger has a higher overall fit and finish, but the BMW is more comfortable. The Tiger has better low-end grunt, but the BMW is so much better on the highway and back roads. Thanks for the great review, it helped me tremendously!

[@jjmohd6674]

wats d best upgrade for a pipe thats cool and macho.

[@MotoTravelUSA]

They have an OEM akrapovic exhaust you can get with or for the bike.

[@mikemcmurray2506]

What crash bars did you go with for the new bike?

[@MotoTravelUSA]

I went with the Givi bars on the 22.

[@mikemcmurray2506]

@MotoTravelUSA nice! I've been looking at the same. I'm between them and Outback Mototech. Outback cannot guarantee fit on the 2023, but Givi said they could. They look similar, though Outback looks to have a more secure crossbar. Thanks for the information.

[@MotoTravelUSA]

You're welcome. The only suggestion I would have is take a look at the Givi skid plate before you get the bars to see if it works for you. I personally don't like it because it has to be removed each time for oil changes and the connection isn't robust like the swmotech skid plate. I'm Not sure if other skid plates work with the Givi bars, I haven't found one I'm certain will fit without ordering first. Just a heads up

[@mikemcmurray2506]

@@MotoTravelUSA that's good to know. Thanks. Question for you about the Givi bars, do they stick out far enough to protect the brake lever? The biggest complaint I hear about the Outback bars is that the brake is prone to getting bent in a tip over.

[@MotoTravelUSA]

No, they do not stick out enough to protect the brake lever unfortunately. I wish someone made a foldaway break lever for the GS like the tiger rally has

[@Troelsby]

Hallo and thanks for the video about gs 850 f I like it. But I have problem with dam in the speedometeret when it's fogy and cold..I leve ind Scandinavian and its disappointing too have a mortor bike with fog inside the meter..regards from Denmark 🇩🇰

[@MotoTravelUSA]

Sorry to hear about that issue. I haven't experienced that with mine, hopefully yours gets fixed somehow.

[@rshkmrpl10]

it would have been great if this had like 17-18 liters fuel capacity

[@Youtube_Globetrotter]

Would you say the GS is the best choise over the GSA?

[@MotoTravelUSA]

For me it was, but others may feel differently. I liked the weight savings and being to modify as I wanted to. Also, I like the looks of the regular 850gs over the adv with the larger front end. You do get more gas with the adv model, which is nice.

[@Youtube_Globetrotter]

@@MotoTravelUSA Feels the engine weak for its load?

[@MotoTravelUSA]

No not at all, the engine has a ton of power for either model.

[@mikebiller25]

I have has a fork seal leak, left fork, twice in 18,000 miles.

[@MotoTravelUSA]

Sorry to hear that. Was it on really rough terrain?

[@Pococnosurvival]

are you using the stock seat? its my only complaint.

[@MotoTravelUSA]

Yeah, just the seat that came with it. I also wear motoskivies on longer tours, so I've found it manageable. Thanks for watching.

[@Pococnosurvival]

@@MotoTravelUSA thanks for the reply.....I ended up getting a Wunderlich , its better, but it is about the best there is for the bike. I am heading out next month from nepa to Oregon, we will see how the seat holds up. nice review

[@sideast]

The forks ? How bad are they ?

[@MotoTravelUSA]

Like most stock forks they're usable, but you can't dial them in any way. At stops, there's considerable bounce. I used the stock front suspension riding the MABDR and other places, it handled fine, but not being able to dial it in is a negative for sure. I've since upgraded with a touratech/tractive fork cartridge and it is a great upgrade.

[@sideast]

@@MotoTravelUSA yea, I think it’s unacceptable that a bike like this with it’s intended purpose has no adjustability on the forks - I’ve heard the nose dive and bounce makes this bike quite unstable

[@stevebelliveau4552]

I'm 5'4, can this bike be lowered?

[@MotoTravelUSA]

There is a lowered version available direct from BMW and the also have a low seat too.

[@novembergarage8547]

is that the 10mile clay loop in clermont?

[@MotoTravelUSA]

Good 👁️, some of the shots are from there. Some of the other shots that look similar were up near Macon, GA

[@novembergarage8547]

@@MotoTravelUSA Haha thank you! i grew up not far from there so i spent many days running those hills. now that I'm older hopefully i can take my 850gsa on them

[@advbikejunky]

Clutch issues?

[@MotoTravelUSA]

No I haven't had any clutch issues with f850gs 🤞🤞🤞

[@dommotos]

Did you change front suspension?????

[@MotoTravelUSA]

I changed the front suspension on a 2022 850, I did not change it on the 2019 that this video is based off of. 👍

[@dommotos]

@@MotoTravelUSA is there any difference between 2019 and 2022?

[@MotoTravelUSA]

@@dommotos there are no major updates, but there are some updates: adjustable windscreen, USB outlet, ride modes tweaked and no dongle, led lights all around.

[@dommotos]

@@MotoTravelUSA and how much cost the adjustable front suspension?

[@MotoTravelUSA]

I got it before all the price increases for around $900. Current prices will be on touratech and your tractive dealer depending what county you live in. For me it's totally worth the cost.

[@nemanjapantic]

What tyres are the best for this bike?

[@MotoTravelUSA]

Oh that's a tough one that you'll get a hundred different answers to. I personally have like the trailmax mission tires. I've bought 3 sets of them and they've handled great on and off road.

[@nemanjapantic]

@@MotoTravelUSA thanks for reply :)

[@TheReelDmak]

@@MotoTravelUSA Just ordered a set for my 19' 850gs. Looking forward to it. I would love a walk around of things you have added or changed and thoughts on the gear that you have bought.

[@MotoTravelUSA]

Hey Doug, my top upgrades coming very soon, plus some installs too! Thanks for stopping by.

[@sanjaykochi96]

❤️👍😀

[@johnthompson9896]

Loncin made engine from the Chinese Loncin company but with a BMW price tag, who would believe it?