BMW i4 eDrive40 driving impressions & summary

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Bjørn Nyland

Bjørn Nyland

Жыл бұрын

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@rbruijns
@rbruijns Жыл бұрын
Björn, thanks for your opinion. I own an i4e40 and after almost 4 months of ownership I can underwrite your conclusions on comfort and efficiency. Now, commenting on why first a niche i3 and i8, I believe BMW wanted to avoid recalls on a big volume car. It looks like that the philosophy of how to bring a car to market is totally different between the traditional automakers and the new kids on the block. Where Tesla promises or brings something to market which is not entirely ready (panel gaps, rust on earlier X’s, poor general build quality of seats in earlier days), the Germans and Japanese want to get it right the first time they try. I find it remarkable that BMW brings its first volume model to market on a relatively new technology to them on a compromised platform (according to a lot of people) and gets an efficiency close to the product of a company which is dedicated to EV from their start on.
@savedfaves
@savedfaves Жыл бұрын
If the kidney grille was much smaller and this car was running iDrive 6 instead of 7 it would be probably the perfect BMW. Stop with the massive mouth at the front, for the love of God.
@lasonya286
@lasonya286 Жыл бұрын
@@savedfaves it looks better in when seen live. I didn’t know bmw produced an ev until maybe 6months ago, but saw a 440i and was really impressed and wanted to know what it was. Very sporty looking car😊
@Osmosis909
@Osmosis909 Жыл бұрын
When I was choosing an EV a few months back I ended up going for a Model 3. I still regret that decision, I should have gone for the BMW i4.
@RobertPuklin
@RobertPuklin Жыл бұрын
Bet you can sell it for more than purchasing price and switch to an i4.
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 Жыл бұрын
MODEL 3 has better HANDELING and is Safer.
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 Жыл бұрын
@@jacqueswang3722 - i4 only got 4 of 5 SAFETY stars from EURO NCAP , its a Really SHITTY car.
@Iceeeen
@Iceeeen Жыл бұрын
​@@markplott4820 Whats the point of euro ncap anymore when stars dependent on shitty things like autobrake, lane assist. lane warning, tps and so on. Stupid things you just want to disable when it just won't shut up, especially in the winter. Even impossible to get rid of it with things like inpa or ncs expert (for bmw).
@RickSanchez__642
@RickSanchez__642 Жыл бұрын
@@markplott4820 jealous much
@Explosivo93
@Explosivo93 Жыл бұрын
Love how the lights, indicators and wheels of the car displayed on the main screen all follow what you are doing.
@TheDanishSpaceman
@TheDanishSpaceman Жыл бұрын
My 2015 Tesla Model S had that as well
@thijsengelen30
@thijsengelen30 9 ай бұрын
@@TheDanishSpacemantesla🤣🤣🤣
@peterscheffer4521
@peterscheffer4521 Жыл бұрын
Ordered and now waiting for it to arrive :)
@rogerlapin9809
@rogerlapin9809 Жыл бұрын
Good review. After ordering it on June 7th 2022 my i4 should be delivered next week. Well worth the wait.
@tommagnum8232
@tommagnum8232 Жыл бұрын
The two big Problems about this Car: The Price! In Germany BMW wants you to pay over 1000 Bucks per Month by Leasing for a Version with no Extras! Second is Availability - 14 to 16 Month (!!) and BMW doesn't even want to guarantee that at the moment…
@philorgneopolotin8762
@philorgneopolotin8762 Жыл бұрын
Jeez it’s almost a year and a half to get one? Yeah that’s the problem with these new EVs. People are just foaming at the mouth to get them ASAP. Some hummer EV sold for like 230k a few weeks ago 2nd hand, the market is just insane right now
@JW-mx3qg
@JW-mx3qg Жыл бұрын
Yikes 😳! I ordered mine about 3 weeks ago, paid 1k to reserve a spot, and was told 6-9 month delivery. I guess the salesman didn’t give me the real story here, and when I asked about the M50 it would be a year+ for getting that.
@peterpoppe4855
@peterpoppe4855 Жыл бұрын
Yep: the same in Belgium... I've informed in June about this car. Delivery would be December 2023 (!!) - No writing error...
@JW-mx3qg
@JW-mx3qg Жыл бұрын
@@peterpoppe4855 awful! That is a long wait time. Either too popular, or the supply chain is so backed up.
@paullawlor8097
@paullawlor8097 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps I was lucky I ordered in Feb and is available for delivery now. Also in UK if you take as company car with payment out of gross salary before tax the government will tax you only 2%. I am paying c£550 a month . Pretty good deal I thought
@pascalfaessen
@pascalfaessen Жыл бұрын
Could you compare it to the ix3?
@lubder
@lubder Жыл бұрын
It's nice to see that the whole range argument is becoming more and more obsolete. 5% more or less is no longer a real argument for most customers, just as it was not for fossil cars with slightly more or less consumption. Even the eqe or eqs are efficient with the right package, of course not with fat performance tires. But overall it means customers have more choice and fossil cars lose their advantages, that's important, not everyone wants a Tesla and that's the only way more people will switch from fossil cars, that's really the point. Also, whether you need 20min longer or shorter for 1000km is not really decisive, in everyday life it doesn't matter at all for most people. The important thing is that there are now many really good electric cars. Good job BMW and that gives hope for the "new class" platform which then hopefully also loses its excess in weight.
@Angry-Lynx
@Angry-Lynx Жыл бұрын
Now the biggest argument is price. Ofc it will go down eventually to closer to ice vehicles. But now i have car for 5k€ that ticks all my boxes
@tejaksz
@tejaksz Жыл бұрын
Hi Bjørn, what you tried and mentioned around 11:45, is that the same in the M50 model as well? I had a test drive in the e40, and I know what you are referring to. I did not like it. It's a bit like an SUV. Thanks! Great vid as always.
@HerrRiebmann
@HerrRiebmann Жыл бұрын
Watched this rather old video after ordering the i4 40 as a company car. No M-Sport was allowed so I went for the bicycle tires with small aero wheels for max efficiency. Can´t wait to drive it. Hopfully, it arrives in 2023... waiting time is soooo long
@LowOnCash
@LowOnCash Жыл бұрын
Bjorn can you or anyone please share which OBD reader and App you are using? I noticed you put up a display showing IX3 / I4 on one of your videos. I have been unsuccessful in getting any OBD readers to work. Thanks Mike
@saxkMr
@saxkMr 2 ай бұрын
man, you hilarious, love your style. you are my to go source for everything electric. cheers!!
@AdaptingCamera
@AdaptingCamera 10 ай бұрын
Which ODB dongle are you using in the i4 and which app? I have so far tested 2 different dongles and one works with LeafSpy but not recognized by the i4 or any other apps, and the other is recognized by all the apps but not the Leaf or the i4. After driving the i4 e40 for a month, I am quite happy with it, but I want to check the car out technically a bit more.
@JanDetrez
@JanDetrez Жыл бұрын
Is there a list somewhere with cars that are known to preheat the battery to avoid cold gating during fast charging? It's something that seems to be not officially listed as far as I know, but a very interesting feature to keep in the equation when comparing cars.
@amigatommy7
@amigatommy7 Жыл бұрын
Look for a "heat pump". That pre-heats the battery among other things.
@PalashMehta
@PalashMehta Жыл бұрын
this is such a blessing of a car in the countries where tesla isn't operational at relatively comparative price!
@karihautala3037
@karihautala3037 Жыл бұрын
Waiting for your M50 -summer testing..
@talkandplay
@talkandplay Жыл бұрын
Do all versions of the i4 eDrive 40 have a heat pump?
@leftcoaster67
@leftcoaster67 Жыл бұрын
How to know Bjorn is in a BMW? The doors open and close. I admit though it sounds great. BMW hit this out of the park?
@luciteck
@luciteck Жыл бұрын
Bjorn can you do a 1000km and a range test with an i4edrive35 ? I suspect it will be very close to edrive40 but with a much better value overall.
@Jacob-id7xm
@Jacob-id7xm 6 ай бұрын
Sadly they dont sell i4edrive35 in norway currently, maybe in the future!
@aqm1992
@aqm1992 Жыл бұрын
Well said bjorn. How is the adaptive/cornering light? How is it compared to Volvo/Polestar pixel light?
@Lse380
@Lse380 Жыл бұрын
Hows the traction in wet?
@Das-Radio
@Das-Radio Жыл бұрын
Fantastic
@lucafra86
@lucafra86 7 ай бұрын
Does it fit for a family? Even if m3 has more trunks liters?
@YouParalaX
@YouParalaX Жыл бұрын
Hi Bjørn, thanks so much for the video! I am really interested in this car, and is wondering if the adaptative suspension from the M50 that you can add to this edrive40 is worth it. Since you tested the two, what do you think?
@shamilmammadov8246
@shamilmammadov8246 Жыл бұрын
Would like to know as well
@skayofox
@skayofox Жыл бұрын
@@shamilmammadov8246 Asked myself and a lot of people the same question. I always get the answer that the adaptive suspension isn't worth the money if you want to get the best bang for a buck. So I ordered mine without the adaptive suspension. I will see if that was a mistake or not :D But I see the positive side: YOu can fit 17 inch wheels (wich are the base ones) for Winter driving (more range, narrower tires are better in Winter and salt won't hurt the better rims) . And user the 18 inch for summer. At least thats my plan for now.
@benjaminanonsen1546
@benjaminanonsen1546 Жыл бұрын
BMW Bjørn! Yes, the light Blue 525D. Nice car.
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland Жыл бұрын
It was gray.
@leftcoaster67
@leftcoaster67 Жыл бұрын
Did the clocks reset themselves?
@thomaseriksson3182
@thomaseriksson3182 Жыл бұрын
Tack! 👍🌹
@zenortheartof
@zenortheartof Жыл бұрын
Agreed, very good car. I love mine.. m sport pro pack is well worth it.. fantastic for long distance driving and also daily commutes.
@kharimott8227
@kharimott8227 Жыл бұрын
Is the msport package worth it? What the difference between the steering wheels?
@zenortheartof
@zenortheartof Жыл бұрын
@@kharimott8227 I believe the steering wheel is thicker and has more padding. I like it. For me the main reason for the m sport package was the inclusion of the adaptive suspension: In default "comfort" mode the i4 just glides... and when I switch to "sport" it stiffens up the suspension and changes the steering response making whizzing around all those lovely bends on my way to work a lot of fun. Very happy with my car, except for the extra £750 to enable adaptive cruise control.. (the buttons are on the steering wheel but you have to pay to enable them...) and I also would opt for the enhanced audio.
@kharimott8227
@kharimott8227 Жыл бұрын
@@zenortheartof thank you for the help. I just wasnt sure if that msport package was worth the extra price tag but you may have sold me on it
@talkandplay
@talkandplay Жыл бұрын
@@kharimott8227 Think as mentioned if you want the more comfortable drive just get the basic sport trim.Depends if you want comfort or a more sporty/firm ride.
@royborgersen8092
@royborgersen8092 Жыл бұрын
Is this one much more comfortable to drive than the M50? Having the Kona today, I would like an efficient car with low consumption (drove Oslo-Lillestrøm in rush hour on average 111Wh/km), but wants to avoid the noise in the cabin. The M50 was ok, but even lower noise level would be good. The wheels had a very low profile, I guess a little less extreme low profile could give more comfort. Anyone with advice on tires? Think I would go for 18». Now there is said to come a 4x4 eDrive40. So there will be a lot of options, as if this wasn’t difficult enough with all the options to choose from already 😅.
@martinsahlberg3244
@martinsahlberg3244 Жыл бұрын
funny that you mention that regarding the punch... I've had the exact same feeling in the 330e, it does like 5.9 sex 0-100, but I but the punch is something else... Right now I have a Volvo v60 T8 that does it in 4,8 seconds, but it does not feel the same way.
@fmartin59
@fmartin59 Жыл бұрын
The suspension on Beemer is probably tuned better for fast jabbing thrusts And the Volvo may be able to put more power down after 0.5 seconds.
@mattleistner313
@mattleistner313 Жыл бұрын
Thx Bjørn for the nice driving impressions and I like the i4 very much!
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 Жыл бұрын
BMW i4 has GARBAGE handeling , the STOCK model Y has Better handeling than BMW M - series.
@mattleistner313
@mattleistner313 Жыл бұрын
@@markplott4820 your claim is without any base. Im sure the Model Y hasn't a better handling - especially if you choose the sporty chassis.
@valentin7436
@valentin7436 Жыл бұрын
@@mattleistner313 I never drove a car like Tesla Model Y Performance. Boaty and firm at the same time. Not a good car for roundabouts, not a good car for accelerating hard either, not a good car to have a sporty drive in the mountains. Tesla should partner with BMW to get new shocks cause i4 is heavy and it still does the job wonderful.
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 Жыл бұрын
@@mattleistner313 - go watch MUNRO i4 Review, its TRASH . less INTERGRATED Design , too much Reliance on off the shelf parts from Suppliers, Spaghetti lines in the BMS/Thermal system.
@poisson12376
@poisson12376 Жыл бұрын
@@markplott4820 by watching video review, and you commented on handling. Talk about baseless claims.
@rkgsd
@rkgsd Жыл бұрын
Is there a subwoofer with the standard sound system? I know the HK upgrade comes with one.
@HerrRiebmann
@HerrRiebmann Жыл бұрын
No extra subwoofer, but you get more space in the underfloor compartment. After listening to HK I thought "to hell with more space, I need that sound" :)
@fredrik7814
@fredrik7814 Жыл бұрын
Håper du tester i4 M50 igjen. PLEASE:)
@Frosticus453
@Frosticus453 Жыл бұрын
Seems like a really nice car. It looks "affordable" in canada, but the base model is very bare bones. Basic options that you'd expect on pretty much any new car, let alone a "luxury-lite" car put the price up very high. This is not some secret bargain. Optioned out this car is very nice. Base model is a short step away from roll down windows.
@savedfaves
@savedfaves Жыл бұрын
Base model i4 in Ireland is about €66K (US$67,000).
@xondeez757
@xondeez757 Жыл бұрын
I added options that you’d normally have and the cost added up to 650k nok. Not bad for a luxury vehicle. Like the standard Tesla cost 150k nok less but it’s not a luxury vehicle, some are willing to pay more to drive nicer car. I’m gonna wait and buy a used one after 3 years. I’d assume the cost goes down to at least 500k after 3 years
@anudureio
@anudureio Жыл бұрын
Another excellent video @Bjørn Nyland ! Do you have the M Sport colors on the side of the FOB with this eDrive40 M-Sport packet? Thanks!
@victorfrombcn
@victorfrombcn Жыл бұрын
Yes, it comes with them.
@JJSmith1100
@JJSmith1100 Жыл бұрын
This EV is actually available in South Africa, unfortunately it is very expensive. The new i3 is also available , but also very expensive, but it is good to see some becoming available, now our charging infrastructure will have to be expanded.
@savedfaves
@savedfaves Жыл бұрын
i3 is crazy expensive considering the low range. Insane.
@user-lh4nl5zh8w
@user-lh4nl5zh8w Жыл бұрын
Is this more fun than the AWD i4 bmw? Is it more fun than Tesla model 3?
@tesla-spectre
@tesla-spectre Жыл бұрын
Very good car, no doubt
@generalwolff1502
@generalwolff1502 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Bjørn, great review again. How did you experience the gearbox in lets say a parking situation where you might need to be a bit quick and not be in the way for other cars? I ask because I experience some EVs to be slow in shifting between D and R. The delay can in some cars be reeeeeally frustrating... any thoughts about that on this i4?
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland Жыл бұрын
Not a problem at all.
@generalwolff1502
@generalwolff1502 Жыл бұрын
@@bjornnyland Thanks Bjørn, really appreciate your answer!
@doggnamedchip
@doggnamedchip Жыл бұрын
Take a look at 17:30 to see turning around in action.
@antoniofreitas6335
@antoniofreitas6335 Жыл бұрын
This generation of bmw motors is very efficient and has a flat curve in the power delivery due to not using permanent magnets in the motor rotor, as the rotor voltage can vary it can also vary its magnetism, with this it no longer uses rare earths in the motor production and manages to increase efficiency, it is a 2 in 1.👌I'm waiting for one of this, one year.😔
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 Жыл бұрын
too bad BMW i4 got only 4 SAFETY stars in EURO NCAP. its also a JUNKY BMW 3 series GAS body.
@antoniofreitas6335
@antoniofreitas6335 Жыл бұрын
@@markplott4820 Yes, it's true, but this is nothing to do with crash test, it's only about lights and systems we usualy turn off, like lane assist.cdn.euroncap.com/media/70210/euroncap-2022-bmw-i4-datasheet.pdf This i4 is, probably, the last old school car, with some modern features, and for me is the best car to buy and keep for all time, a car where you can see how they made combustion cars...
@Macmonkey1000
@Macmonkey1000 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I can see all manufacturers going with externally excited synchronous motors in the near future, they seem to be very efficient and have a nice flat torque curve due to the ability to alter the rotor field.
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 Жыл бұрын
@@haveaseatplease - BMW 3 series is too HEAVY, too SLOW, and INEFFICIENT. BMW 3 series has too many PARTS & Fastners, too many Brackets holding more Brackets. it has too many Buttons & Controls and the Wireing thats Accociated.
@jehhrie
@jehhrie Жыл бұрын
When inside the car, is it true that if you open the driver side door, engine off and A/C automatically shuts off too?
@jehhrie
@jehhrie Жыл бұрын
thank you Bjorn
@jehhrie
@jehhrie Жыл бұрын
seems it is a software issue for i4's in Taiwan
@victorfrombcn
@victorfrombcn Жыл бұрын
It turns off everything after the last occupant door opens to exit the car.
@mbartolotto
@mbartolotto Жыл бұрын
It's available with 17" wheels too, I wonder if it's worth it.
@savedfaves
@savedfaves Жыл бұрын
Go with the 17” wheels. More range is always better IMO.
@marcelbeaucamp9330
@marcelbeaucamp9330 Жыл бұрын
Another advantage of an efficient car with such a big battery is a longer life. Since every charge cycle provides 600 km of range the common 1000 charge cycles lead to about 500.000-600.000 km of range. Bjørn, how efficient will this car BMW in winter? What do you think?
@TheVeryEnd87
@TheVeryEnd87 Жыл бұрын
Agree! Also keep in mind that the 1000 cycles are to 80ish % remaining capasity (or was it 70%?), which means that it could go for a long time. Say you reach 600 000km and has 70% battery capasity left, that would mean you still would have 420km range (600 * 0.70).
@Hagledesperado
@Hagledesperado Жыл бұрын
@@rogerstarkey5390 Scandinavians who have ø in their alphabet generally consider ö an acceptable substitute, if for some reason the writer is unable to easily type ø. The letters are so closely related, that for most intents and purposes, they're just regional cosmetic variations of the same letter.
@marcelbeaucamp9330
@marcelbeaucamp9330 Жыл бұрын
@@rogerstarkey5390 I changed it at once. You are absolutely right. I did not even think about that before 🤦🏼‍♂️. My fault
@marcelbeaucamp9330
@marcelbeaucamp9330 Жыл бұрын
@@Hagledesperado Am Germany. We have ö instead of ø. I think in Sweden it is ö and in Denmark and Norway ø? Am not sure about that.
@Hagledesperado
@Hagledesperado Жыл бұрын
@@marcelbeaucamp9330 That is correct; Denmark and Norway have ø, and Sweden and Iceland have ö. Fun fact: In some styles of cursive handwriting, the Norwegian ø looks more like ö or ō, but I guess a dwindling number of people are aware of this, as handwriting seems to be a dying skill in the information age.
@atleyri
@atleyri Жыл бұрын
Me like, me want!
@laserandy007
@laserandy007 Жыл бұрын
Hi Bjorn, great review 👍 Would you buy that i4 40?
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland Жыл бұрын
No. For the same price I can buy a Model 3 Performance.
@laserandy007
@laserandy007 Жыл бұрын
@@bjornnyland Funny, I would never buy the Tesla. But everybody should buy what he like and be happy. That’s all what counts 👍
@laserandy007
@laserandy007 Жыл бұрын
@@haveaseatplease I thought a mobilephone with wheels 😋
@TheSlideshowtube
@TheSlideshowtube Жыл бұрын
If they were available and had drive assist features I'd buy one today. But they're not and they don't.
@marcelbeaucamp9330
@marcelbeaucamp9330 Жыл бұрын
It kicks ass for the lord 😂 Really like that phrase!
@sorglos4332
@sorglos4332 Жыл бұрын
It's a nice reference to the movie 'Braindead' aka 'Dead/alive'.
@marcelbeaucamp9330
@marcelbeaucamp9330 Жыл бұрын
@@sorglos4332 Yes, I googled it and watched the scene 😉
@AndrewNC22
@AndrewNC22 Жыл бұрын
This is not even an EV platform and it matched the Model 3. I definitely prefer German engineering.
@sassychang007
@sassychang007 8 ай бұрын
American cars suck. Terrible reliability and expensive AF to maintain.
@davidebaldanti8310
@davidebaldanti8310 Жыл бұрын
Just yeserday I test drove the i4 M50, and the full throttle acceleration scred the shoot out of me. I suspect this edrive 40 is a better package when it comes to everyday driving. Too bad that at least for now awd on the i4 only comes with the higher spec
@fixandtests
@fixandtests Жыл бұрын
haha , i had the same feeling testing the M 50 , If I had not used both hands on the steering wheel, then i would driven it off the road .. the sport boost mode was intense. I wanted to test the edrive 40, but seems only the M50 is available as test cars in my country. I dont need the m50 performance and was thinking edrive40 and add some extras instead
@Babu-of2xh
@Babu-of2xh Жыл бұрын
@@fixandtests true we dont need m50, i40 is enough.
@skjold73
@skjold73 Жыл бұрын
Sounds weird when you floor it ... like a engine thats hard to run smoothly
@joachimmagnusson3128
@joachimmagnusson3128 Жыл бұрын
No, try it yourself!
@savedfaves
@savedfaves Жыл бұрын
That’s the Hans Zimmer electric acceleration sound effect you’re hearing. It can be turned off. And I don’t believe the in-car it would sound quite how it does in the video.
@EldarGezalov
@EldarGezalov Жыл бұрын
Expensive, but very impressive car!
@michaelmartenson13
@michaelmartenson13 Жыл бұрын
Bjørn, please make a video about which model you would choose, the edrive40 or M50. I'm trying to choose between these models. I also live in Scandinavia so my concern is how a rearwheel drive car will handle winter conditions. I would need the range that the edrive40 has and the power it has is already more than I need. It would be nice if you could test the M50 with the most efficient tires available and to make a video about how the M50 can match edrive40 in efficiency. Also it would be nice to hear your opinion on which model drives better. Many KZbin channels prefer the edrive40 and says it is running more stable. Actually many says M50 is a little unstable and feels out of control in some situations.
@fmartin59
@fmartin59 Жыл бұрын
M50 seems to be focused on straight line speed not so much sporty driving feel.
@RobertPuklin
@RobertPuklin Жыл бұрын
@Bjørn were you able to test the app and connectivity features? Things like thermal preconditioning, managing charging, unlocking via phone etc. All important for EV drivers in a day-to-day life.
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately not. The app was too unstable and buggy.
@meteoraniac
@meteoraniac Жыл бұрын
@@bjornnyland Same experience when had one leased. Bought the MYP after.
@talkandplay
@talkandplay Жыл бұрын
@@meteoraniac Thanks for feedback, disappointing about the BMW app, i have the peugeot app and it is next to useless.Peugeot never fix the errors.
@sphinx2k210
@sphinx2k210 Жыл бұрын
This is at least 20% more expensive than the Tesla 3 LR in Australia, seems like it belongs in comparisons with the next class up.
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 Жыл бұрын
its built w/ a CHEAP 3 series GAS body on a OUTDATED bev Platform. only got 4 of 5 SAFETY stars. TESLA model Y w/ Gigacasting is SAFER.
@hardykornfeld1733
@hardykornfeld1733 Жыл бұрын
I just spec’d a 3 LR equipped as close as possible to the i4 eDrive 40 that I have on order here in the USA (no enhanced autopilot or FSD) and the Tesla was 4.45% cheaper. That’s before the federal tax credit that the BMW qualifies for, but is no longer available for Teslas. Fair or not, that’s the reality here and with the credit the BMW is 6% cheaper. Govt crash ratings for the Tesla 3 and BMW 440i are both 5-star. The BMW heads up display adds an unquantifiable level of safety. We test drove both and I far preferred the BMW for dynamics, ambience and quality. Tesla is a generation ahead in battery/motor/software but the BMW has near comparable efficiency and gave a more pleasurable driving experience. I also like the fact that the BMW is built in a union factory.
@marcsimmonds5483
@marcsimmonds5483 Жыл бұрын
Same in NZ. We get ripped off.
@generalwolff1502
@generalwolff1502 Жыл бұрын
@@markplott4820 That is a common missunderstanding. The new 4-series (incl. i4) is not built on the same platform as the 3-series. It was the same on the previous 4-series, but since it became too small (and low roof) in the backseat, they made a new, longer for the new 4-series.
@generalwolff1502
@generalwolff1502 Жыл бұрын
The i4 in Sweden starts at 640 kSEK and Tesla Model 3 LR at 708 kSEK.
@amigatommy7
@amigatommy7 Жыл бұрын
"drift mode" and the 50hp extra "Boost" mode.in the GV60 might disagree.
@tobias..6688
@tobias..6688 Жыл бұрын
The efficiency in winter will be interesting... Can it match model 3 with heat pump? I doubt it
@RobertPuklin
@RobertPuklin Жыл бұрын
all Teslas in (and bellow) it´s price range (3,Y) also have AWD, which is a big plus in winter.
@v.corleone737
@v.corleone737 Жыл бұрын
Well, cars are not always about efficiency. Otherwise, people wouldn't buy Porsche's when a Toyota is more efficient. The same here. The Model 3 is an efficient car, but it's a toy. Feels like and sounds like a toy. And the wind noise is unbearable. With the i4, I guess you will have less efficiency in winter, but a way better car that is leagues above a Model 3.
@RobertPuklin
@RobertPuklin Жыл бұрын
@@v.corleone737 ​ hi, that calculation is no longer valid, as BEVs can deliver both power and efficiency at the same time (e.g. a Porsche can be both more efficient and more powerful than a Toyota). Model 3 will be "leagues above" in the software and tech department. It is all an exercise in knowing your own priorities. i4 feels more like a Taycan competitor, because for someone looking for ultimate driving comfort, Model 3 was never an option.
@ulyden1947
@ulyden1947 Жыл бұрын
You can go to bmw homepage and get the range at any temperatures between -10 and 35 The data is close to tb tests
@arlingdring2180
@arlingdring2180 Жыл бұрын
Something is wrong.. i bought this car so bye bye to the fossil world and toyota prius. This car is more fun. And björn, thanks for your videos
@mehutolkki3232
@mehutolkki3232 Жыл бұрын
I really wish I could afford this car. There is literally no reason to buy anything gas powered brand new since eveything is going electric in the next ten years. If I could afford this, I'd buy it, maybe m50 version for 4WD, since winters are getting harsher by the year (I live in Finland). After getting it I would probably never sell it, just keep on fixing it until its totally worn out. I guess the only thing that would need fixing is swapping the batteries after ten years or so, right?
@mehutolkki3232
@mehutolkki3232 Жыл бұрын
Maybe in a few years 4-5 or so these can be bought with reasonable prices as used cars.
@mattleistner313
@mattleistner313 Жыл бұрын
You can get an affordable one in 3 years as a used one.
@kaspar737
@kaspar737 Жыл бұрын
Think you got something wrong here, it makes perfect sense to buy a gas car because there will be less choice in the future and this means less depreciation for you. Meanwhile EVs are improving rapidly and current EVs will depreciate heavily.
@mehutolkki3232
@mehutolkki3232 Жыл бұрын
@@kaspar737 how so? Since electric cars are mostly more efficient and require less maintenance than fossil based ones, don't you think that once EV's hit cheaper price ranges the gas car prices will drop even more as they are left being only a fun commodity of the past. Only iconic cars such as BMW m3's and such are the only ones keeping the value for the people who are into such hobby.
@Mr.Relaxed
@Mr.Relaxed Жыл бұрын
U pay to much for all the extras on the BMW and the waiting time is very long. I really liked it, but when I entered my Xpeng P7 Performance, I felt I was seated and was driving in a much more comfortable and silent car, with more space in cockpit, feels more spacious. BMW felt for me like a conventional gas car. But I did like it alot, but like my P7 better. P7 was the last ev I tried after both this BMW and 15 others.
@bikeomatic8005
@bikeomatic8005 Жыл бұрын
All that matters is range, whats the real world range?
@OenkePoenke
@OenkePoenke Жыл бұрын
21:55 "... and they cost twice as much". Nope, EQE 300 starts at 63'500€, BMW i4 40 at 59'000€ in German Configurator. That's 1.08 as much. But I agree, it's a great car, if you're shopping for something in that range.
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland Жыл бұрын
In Norway: i4 eDrive40: 600k and EQE costs 1.1 mill
@generalwolff1502
@generalwolff1502 Жыл бұрын
@@bjornnyland Wow!?
@OenkePoenke
@OenkePoenke Жыл бұрын
​@@bjornnyland no EQE base versions available in Norway yet? i4 base apparently is. Edit: Only EQE 43 4Matic available in Norway yet, starts in No Configurator at 909 800 kr. Is that including or excluding tax? 2nd Edit: last page says Totalpris: + 2400 kr Vrakpant*, Pluss 0% moms *wrecking fee in advance, I guess
@markifi
@markifi Жыл бұрын
couple wh / km less if you can find wheels more similar to the gm ev1's wheels couple wh / km less if you tape over the panel gaps couple wh / km less if you change the mirrors to cameras couple wh / km less if you lower the car flat belly cars are the best
@KurtSeiffert
@KurtSeiffert Жыл бұрын
Driving in D mode with Adaptive Regeneration would probably yield more efficiency than all of that and less work. Since BMW went with brushes on the motor, the motor can truly freewheel. The car will coast and not regenerate until it needs to decelerate for a reason such as a slower car ahead. Coasting is more efficient than regeneration since you always have energy loss in the transfer. Save B mode for when you KNOW you will be decelerating, like driving around town.
@Zedus-rl9hp
@Zedus-rl9hp Жыл бұрын
The i4 is very well made (you have to like the looks) but unfortunately it doesn't come cheap either and several have noted that the BMW is overpriced for what's on offer. But of course that is always very individual, because the customer also buys very much based on emotions. Also, 5 stars in the crash test would actually be a must for a premium vehicle in this price range. 20:05 In my opinion, the user interface at BMW is far better than at VAG-models, for example, where you have huge tiles spread over several pages, which looks very confusing/nested. In my opinion, it makes no sense to make them so big, because the argument "so that you can hit them while driving" is rather weak, because all other controls (including others on the display, like the home button) are much smaller.
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 Жыл бұрын
NOPE, i4 is made w/ Cheap BMW 3 series GAS body. rated 4 of 5 SAFETY stars Euro NCAP.
@fmartin59
@fmartin59 Жыл бұрын
@@markplott4820 that test didn’t include knee air bags and deducted points for “pedestrian safety.” 3 series has 5 star safety rating.
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 Жыл бұрын
@@fmartin59 - 3 series , LACKS Gigacasting & 4680 Structural battery pack.
@philNullFunf
@philNullFunf 8 ай бұрын
@@markplott4820 expert speaking. How about to get your facts right? Nothing is cheap about the chassis and the base clar-platform. It’s all top notch materials and best in class production techniques. Without the sacrifices that Tesla makes in order to reduce costs. Gigacasting is nothing a consumer wants to have. The star rating is correct, but it’s not because of the protection for passengers, but solely because of less intrusive assistant systems and danger for cyclists.
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 8 ай бұрын
@@philNullFunf - the best BMW EV is , no EV. facts are they are using Crappy ICE car as Base for EV. the entire Line of Current BMW EV are Crappy. w/ Outdated Computer HARDWARE & Software, BMW does not make its own Controllers, its Electric DU motors are Inefficient, Its Inverters are not Intergrated, BMW still using OLD FASIONED Fuses, and Outdated 12v System battery. FACTS are the Stock TESLA Plaid S is a BETTER Luxury car than BMW M Series, Rides Better, Handles better , Drives better, its also a Great STOCK Track car w/ Track Package upgrade. the PLAID S does not use Gigacasting, but it has Discrete Casting of its Front & Rear Axles in Modules. and has the Front Cross car beam w/ Intergrated Air Cylinder for Suspension. Sorry, I dont buy it, the BMW series is Less Advanced than TESLA , and in 2023 Still using OUTDATED ICE Technology. Gigacasting , is SMART for Mass produced cars , like Model 3/Y and NEXT Gen Vehicle, However , it Does NOT matter for Low Volume Vehicles like $100k Luxury Sports cars. BMW is too Stuck , doing Everything the OLD outdated way.
@hansifransi9572
@hansifransi9572 Жыл бұрын
Why you drive in the middle of the street, there is not other car ?
@imjusthere5225
@imjusthere5225 Жыл бұрын
Who else wants kebab after seeing this?
@MaleLion.
@MaleLion. Жыл бұрын
Now that you mention it ...
@savedfaves
@savedfaves Жыл бұрын
Kabeaver?
@will4may175
@will4may175 Жыл бұрын
The car is so efficient at saving power = saving money = £53k price I won't be spending, that's a lot of money I just saved just by watching a decent vid about the car. In a climate where half the world is struggling for money these manufacturers still continue to bring out premium priced cars, at least the rich can enjoy them.
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland Жыл бұрын
Get Opel Corsa-e.
@will4may175
@will4may175 Жыл бұрын
@@bjornnyland I do like it, though I would have to put up with passengers having bleeding knuckles like in your review 😁 Also Corsa does have a bit of a Chav rep here in UK, a bit cheap made and interior but at the 21k price what are you expecting for an EV, we do have better interior in my wifes 19k Fiesta just a shame no full EV of those.
@victorfrombcn
@victorfrombcn Жыл бұрын
News at 8, BMW manufactures premium cars at high prices.
@will4may175
@will4may175 Жыл бұрын
@@victorfrombcn Nothing to do with BMW cars but EVs altogether, each one brings one out but the pricing is focused towards those with enough cash the fuel pricing crisis wont even bother them anyway, while the rest of us have to pay the fuel prices and wait for second hand EVs or get a Zoe or Leaf.
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland Жыл бұрын
Get MG ZS EV then. Problem solved.
@egidiomeola
@egidiomeola Жыл бұрын
Ice car converted to ev
@poisson12376
@poisson12376 Жыл бұрын
BMW compromised on the driving assist and parking assist for edrive40… still feel really upset.
@poisson12376
@poisson12376 Жыл бұрын
@@KDR816 I still don’t see parking assist pro in the options now for edrive40, kind of desperate trick to force people go m50.
@marvinisrael1671
@marvinisrael1671 Жыл бұрын
@Yu Cheng I ordered my i4-40 April 7th and it's on its way with all options, including Driving Assistant Pro and Advanced Parking Assist. Also HUD and laser headlights. I realize I'm lucky. (USA)
@Explosivo93
@Explosivo93 Жыл бұрын
Such a nice car if it wasnt for that hideous front end.
@Dark_Vader888
@Dark_Vader888 Жыл бұрын
agree 100%, some of us still want a beautiful BMW not ugly beaver grilles.
@kharimott8227
@kharimott8227 Жыл бұрын
Shockingly I actually love the grill.
@savedfaves
@savedfaves Жыл бұрын
Beaver mouth wow.
@hegoodha
@hegoodha Жыл бұрын
I understand that this is a really nice car! However with my limited Knowledge I would not buy it because of the lack of safety compared to other premium cars. Even the cupra born got a better rating. Do You know maybe a little bit more about those safety tests @Bjoern?
@nox5555
@nox5555 Жыл бұрын
Those tests have become total BS over the years. they give points for systems nobody needs. i dont need the car to tell my if somebody isnt using a seatbelt and i dont need help not hitting people when i drive backwards.
@Dark_Vader888
@Dark_Vader888 Жыл бұрын
Happy done with this. As good as it is and as a lifelong BMW fanboi, I'll never buy it in current form because its so ugly. My opinion, my cash..
@RickSanchez__642
@RickSanchez__642 Жыл бұрын
I chose the i4 over the polestar. I4 looks so much better! Polestar is more close to an suv than to a gran Coupé. Something feels off with this car.
@savedfaves
@savedfaves Жыл бұрын
BMW: beaver mouth goes “wow!”
@mackie5004
@mackie5004 Жыл бұрын
I drove BMWs for 20years. Loved the design and innovations. But after 2 years with a Tesla LR (with KW suspension) BMW feels overcomplex and outdated. And I still don’t get used to the front grill.
@RickSanchez__642
@RickSanchez__642 Жыл бұрын
To me it is the complete opposite. Focus is on driving not on Software with touch screen only.
@bikersydney5653
@bikersydney5653 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree. I’ve driven BMW coupes for 20 years. Recently switched from BMW M2 to M3LR (with boost). Prefer Tesla now. In Australia BMW EVs are overpriced and no fast charging infrastructure … hopefully that will change
@EagleWolfSparrow
@EagleWolfSparrow Жыл бұрын
I honest feel 2024 they will Change it.../ So many wasted space in Front Trunk, Rear seat area!!!!!! Great car, good Iconic Engine sound, but Speed and range isn't there and Self Driving tech is NOT there (Way Behind Tesla) At least make Auto Lane Centering Adaptive Cruiser Control Better and will follow cars on Highway or Traffic same speed and distance without disengage!!!!!
@HerrRiebmann
@HerrRiebmann Жыл бұрын
Acutally the driving assistant professional performed better than Autopilot in european reviews. Might be different in the US where Autopilot is better optimized
@andromedach
@andromedach Жыл бұрын
call me when they make an i4 on a bespoke EV platform
@sebvv5219
@sebvv5219 Жыл бұрын
How is Tesla way ahead in tech?! Mercedes has better route planning, driving assists and infotainment. VW and Mercedes have better voice recognition, except for English maybe. Tesla's sign recognition still doesn't work. Two weeks ago a 21-yo amateur coder developed a system far superior to Tesla's with a Raspberry-Pi and a cheap logitech camera. Their autopilot doesn't deserve its name. Tesla is still miles away from autonomous driving as can be seen by looking at the many incidents published on yt every couple of weeks.
@Zedus-rl9hp
@Zedus-rl9hp Жыл бұрын
"Their autopilot doesn't deserve its name." What does an autopilot do?! You seem unfamiliar with the definition, or Hollywood gave you something wrong.
@sebvv5219
@sebvv5219 Жыл бұрын
@@Zedus-rl9hp I don't get my definitions from "Hollywood", however autopilot =/= crappy lane assist.
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland Жыл бұрын
Tesla has octovalve. Read up about how it is.
@ulyden1947
@ulyden1947 Жыл бұрын
@@bjornnyland Isn’t that just a valve block for distributing cooling vater?
@sebvv5219
@sebvv5219 Жыл бұрын
@@bjornnyland Is there an article not written by a fanboy, clickbait vaporware salesman or biased share holder on it?
@martinwolf9495
@martinwolf9495 Жыл бұрын
According to Sandy Munro the i4 material quality is not good enough for a $80K car. Also according to nextmove news the i4 got only 4 of 5 stars in the EU safety tests. I wouldn't buy this car!
@ulyden1947
@ulyden1947 Жыл бұрын
Sandy Murno 😂😂😂
@fmartin59
@fmartin59 Жыл бұрын
@@ulyden1947 sandy rambles too much in his vids. Feel like they could be 5 minutes at max
@LarsBeduhn
@LarsBeduhn Жыл бұрын
I just can't get over the interior. The software looks like an iPhone from 15 years ago. The display is tiny. The navigation maps look like 15 year old TomToms. And then, to add insult to injury, they include this little trackpad thingy... This is a real turn off for me. But then again... I cannot stand any German car interiors. Audi, Mercedes, VW.... they are all equally bad. Tesla is WAY WAY WAY ahead of them... it's not even funny. And I say this as someone who actively decided AGAINST buying a Tesla.
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 Жыл бұрын
Bjorn Nyland - Disagree , BMW i4 is a COMPLIANCE car Built w/ a BMW 3 series GAS car body , on top of a OUTDATED bev Platform. they are not DELETEING parts & process , they are NOT Adding RANGE or saving WEIGHT. BMW is NOT Being EFFICIENT here. BMW i3 is MORE Advanced than i4. and BMW is Killing the i3 in favor for the i4, a JUNK car. the NEW Kia/Hyundai are making Better , more Efficient BEV like the EV6 and IQ5 . and TESLA is outselling BMW 3,4, 5 series in the USA with just the Model 3/Y , and the 6 and 7 series w/ Model S/X combined. BMW i4 only got 4 of 5 SAFETY stars in EURO NCAP. TESLA model Y w/ Giacastings are SAFER.
@ulyden1947
@ulyden1947 Жыл бұрын
Think its based on 4series grand cupe. 3series is a sedan. www.bmw.no/no/all-models/4-series/gran-coupe/2021/bmw-4-serie-gran-coupe-oversikt.html
@generalwolff1502
@generalwolff1502 Жыл бұрын
The 4-series is no longer sharing platform with 3-series. That is a common missunderstanding.
@savedfaves
@savedfaves Жыл бұрын
This car got over 400 miles of range in Bjorn’s Sunday drive test. Right up there with Model 3 LR in terms of efficiency. If this is a compliance EV, then it’s the best one in the world. Aside from the ugly front. And the glitzy iDrive 7, which I don’t love. Preferred iDrive 6.
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 Жыл бұрын
Bjorn - BMW i4 only has 268 - 536 hp and the car is HEAVY and too Slow. TESLA model 3 has better MOTORS and is Lighter Weight w/ Superior Handeling. TESLA motors have Superior HP , Torque and Speed. BMW i4 is just a CHEAP made car , its JUNK.
@generalwolff1502
@generalwolff1502 Жыл бұрын
Apparently, not that "superior" any longer...
@TheSlideshowtube
@TheSlideshowtube Жыл бұрын
How come BMW's "cheap made car" is higher quality than tesla's top of the line cars?
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 Жыл бұрын
@@TheSlideshowtube - NOPE , they are of EQUAL Quality , BMW M50 uses Cheap Plastic seatbacks and low Quality Vinyl. TESLA uses Organic Vinyl and High Grade plastics.
@TheSlideshowtube
@TheSlideshowtube Жыл бұрын
@@markplott4820 So how come teslas rattle so much more than BMWs do?
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 Жыл бұрын
@@TheSlideshowtube - my PLAID S does not Rattle , and the AUSTIN model Y w/ Gigascating should rattle way less then Fremont.
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 Жыл бұрын
Bjorn Nyland - BMW i4 interior is Cheap , really CHEAPLY done, mostly Plastic & Vinyl Interior , not what I expect in a mid LUXURY car w/ Expensive price. and use of OUTDATED Piano Black & Chrome accents is DEPRESSING. Infotainment is even LESS Impressive is lacking DOG mode and CARAIOKE .
@gyuri647
@gyuri647 Жыл бұрын
Bullshit
@c-fb
@c-fb Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️
@markuserbeldinger9674
@markuserbeldinger9674 Жыл бұрын
Why are you so upset? Beauty is that you can enjoy your Tesla and I can enjoy my i4 M50. I am grateful for Tesla pushing the traditional automakers to get EV‘s out but I personally don’t like the design of Teslas.
@generalwolff1502
@generalwolff1502 Жыл бұрын
Agree with Marcus, why so UPSET? Chill man and enjoy your preferred choice of car while some others perceive and experience things different. Piece love and EV for all.
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 Жыл бұрын
@@markuserbeldinger9674 - BMW is not even half trying, and the are Completely brain dead on how to ENGINEER & build a BEV. i4:is really SHITTY compared to i3.
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