BMW i4 vs Polestar 2 2022 shoot-out - Two Tesla alternatives but which is best? / Electrifying

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@robertsd8026
@robertsd8026 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting how they never mention that Nicki is a BMW brand ambassador and gets ‘free’ cars as part of her deal
@Static.Display
@Static.Display 2 жыл бұрын
Makes her opinion in this video invalid I guess?🧐 win for polestar then😅
@10gimp39
@10gimp39 2 жыл бұрын
Who is she
@Karl-Benny
@Karl-Benny 2 жыл бұрын
@@Static.Display yes when you also consider the other comparison between these two plus tesla 3 polestar won
@wiryantirta
@wiryantirta 2 жыл бұрын
@@Karl-Benny doesn't matter proper ethics means they need to disclose that. I've seen independent youtube reviewers with more integrity and transparency than this.
@boethiusm8438
@boethiusm8438 Жыл бұрын
Which one is Vicky
@gesp5151
@gesp5151 Жыл бұрын
Might just be me but i love the i4 grill. It's excellent
@paulgojenola1278
@paulgojenola1278 2 жыл бұрын
I ordered an i4 M50 to replace my 2016 M4… time to go green.
@VogelsangA
@VogelsangA 2 жыл бұрын
I have driven both and felt in live with the i4 as of one week I also have mine after a 11 months wait. The driving is so enjoyably and verry compatible to a petrol powered BMW with rear wheel drive.
@andreasl4507
@andreasl4507 10 ай бұрын
For me the polestar is much more fun to drive and you feel better in polestar because it’s a special car and isnt just a normal bmw. Drived polestar for a week and people toke photos and asked about me who I am and how the car is. But when I drive the bmw for 1 week no one even noticed me haha. Just a regular new bmw. Polestar is sush a nice drive and love it. Just got hand on my 2024. 610km. Lovely car. Just did a trip in north Sweden in the winter storms. 550 km drive in this weather. Crazy cool car.
@s13dad82
@s13dad82 2 жыл бұрын
I can't get my eyes off that P2, I bought one right after testing one and I am enjoying it.
@badboy250984
@badboy250984 2 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna test drive next week. Did you go for the dual motor version?
@s13dad82
@s13dad82 2 жыл бұрын
​@@badboy250984 Yes because of the AWD
@madonemt
@madonemt 2 жыл бұрын
We are going for a test drive tomorrow but orders are suspended till April 11.
@gregoryberke7201
@gregoryberke7201 2 жыл бұрын
do you still like it ? any harshness in the ride ?
@madonemt
@madonemt 2 жыл бұрын
@@gregoryberke7201 we placed an order but new models have uglier wheels and no pixel lights here in Europe. Ordered a used showroom model with 500 miles on the clock instead and had it delivered last week. Amazing car. Bit firm but that's well handling cars for you. Feels glued to the road.
@DanielKennedyaeos
@DanielKennedyaeos 2 жыл бұрын
As others have said, should have specced the Polestar higher so it matches the money spent on the M sport i4. Not quite a fair match.
@farodopi5170
@farodopi5170 2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s fair. The iM50 would be even more expensive. Completely out of the market price. It would have been worse actually.
@nigellegg4107
@nigellegg4107 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't bring out the ride comfort. As many EVs I've tested have rougher rides due to the battery weight, I'd like to hear about the comfort factor - especially given the apalling state of our roads. I has a BMW 340d M£ X-drive over the summer and was hugely impressed by the comfort as well as the drive. I think the i4 may pip the Polestar on that major factor.
@owitney
@owitney 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of comments about the i4 being better than the P2, but when you spend an additional 25-50% you would expect it.
@peterhammer4644
@peterhammer4644 2 жыл бұрын
how does your math work? The difference is 10-15 %, not 25-50.
@owitney
@owitney 2 жыл бұрын
@@peterhammer4644 I posted this 8 months ago. Why would you expect the prices to be still the same after this amount of time? Now it is just under 25%. With the BMW starting at £55k and Polestar between £42k-£50k.
@susand9296
@susand9296 2 жыл бұрын
It's not better though.
@sebastiantevel898
@sebastiantevel898 7 ай бұрын
In the US the difference is only 10%.
@Hutcho12
@Hutcho12 7 ай бұрын
@@owitney BMW dealers will give you a 20%+ discount on a new one. Polestar prices are fixed. They are effectively the same price.
@ting2006jd
@ting2006jd 2 жыл бұрын
I'm in the market for a EV and I watched a lot of videos. P2 ranks very high in my book. I love the interior and the material used in the P2. I had a Volvo S60 a few years ago and I enjoyed owning that car. The S60 never failed on me unlike my earlier BMW E92. Between i4 and P2, P2 for me. But between Model 3 long range and P2, I still need a little more time to decide.
@Sakonimo
@Sakonimo 2 жыл бұрын
Man... we are exactly on the same dilema(s). :). P2/i4/T3sr... can't decide for the life of me
@Andy82112
@Andy82112 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sakonimo Between P2 dual motor, M3 dual motor, and EV6 AWD I ended up with the EV6 awd.
@SirBobbyDazzler
@SirBobbyDazzler 2 жыл бұрын
I tested the Tesla Model 3 Performance, it is a great car, but the range and charging network were not enough to beat the P2 in my personal opinion. Due to the basic interior, the blurred rear windscreen caused by the curvature of the glass and the speed & sat nav information is only displayed on the centre screen (I didn't like needing to keep looking left).
@frans1522
@frans1522 2 жыл бұрын
I”take the i4: more range, higher efficiency, faster charging, bigger bootspace, quieter to drive, option for HUD, sunroof that can open etc.
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh 2 жыл бұрын
But Frans, if the range, higher efficiency, faster charging and the sunroof aren't a priority or a critical factor, then the BMW looks rather costly. Plus BMW's carry stigma for some.......
@sharpcircle
@sharpcircle 2 жыл бұрын
The P2 is a MUCH nicer car in every way
@bigfirepop
@bigfirepop 2 жыл бұрын
@@sharpcircle said no one ever.
@sharpcircle
@sharpcircle 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigfirepop apart from virtually everyone in this thread...
@bigfirepop
@bigfirepop 2 жыл бұрын
@@sharpcircle *no one with any sort of sense Better?
@tanushko
@tanushko 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve driven both cars, and I can tell you that there is a huge difference when it comes to handling and driving dynamics. The i4 is a proper sports car that drives heavenly compared to the P2. The P2 can be fun too, but nothing near the driving quality of the i4, in my opinion. If you’ve driven sports car before, specially the BMW ones, you’ll find the i4 the better choice. It has also better range, faster charging and bigger booth space. It is more expensive though. Personally I like the interior of the P2 better, but I wouldn’t trade that for the handling and driving experience that the i4 gives. Bottom line> both cars are better than Tesla M3!
@AW-gj4ji
@AW-gj4ji 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t disagree even though I own a P2. If only the i4 had an AWD trim that isn’t an m50. Then I could’ve gotten it instead(budget limit).
@weightliftingdoktor
@weightliftingdoktor 2 жыл бұрын
I drive an Escalade but even I notice all the Tesla destination chargers and superchargers along highways even in the rural Midwest. Where do these EVs power up for long trips?
@AW-gj4ji
@AW-gj4ji 2 жыл бұрын
@@weightliftingdoktor I don't know where you live, but it's highly dependant on which country you're from. You could download apps that pretty much shows all of the available chargers or sometimes it's even built into your car's navigation.
@weightliftingdoktor
@weightliftingdoktor 2 жыл бұрын
@@AW-gj4ji near Gilman, IL. We're not big into EVs around here, but there's a Tesla station off the 57 Interstate at a BP. Wonder if other EVs can rig a connection.
@AW-gj4ji
@AW-gj4ji 2 жыл бұрын
@@weightliftingdoktor There's also electrified America, but you will have to check if there are many near your location. In some countries Tesla superchargers are open to other EV. However, I don't think they have done that for the US yet.
@rob20676
@rob20676 2 жыл бұрын
As a PS2 driver I'm a little biase here, but completely agree with everything on this video. A couple of extras that were not mentioned, the Polestar has ventilate front seats, which are not an option on the BMW and if you go with the single motor version you get additional rear boot space where the second motor would be. I don't know of any other i4 features so any owners please share. The BMW does look and feel more grown up but as a thirty year old professional the Polestar has that young and fun edge that the BMW just doesn't.
@ardolijslager5277
@ardolijslager5277 2 жыл бұрын
You CAN get ventilated front seats on the i4. Besides that, the BMW has much more options to choose from the the Polestar. They all look the same, almost no chance for "personalising" the car.
@gregoryberke7201
@gregoryberke7201 2 жыл бұрын
ventilated front seats ? on the Polestar 2 ? which spec is that. Don't see that mentioned in Pilot, Plus packages
@milesforrest6920
@milesforrest6920 2 жыл бұрын
Why didnt you review an equivalent P2 with performance pack to match the BMW M ? The handling is different with the Ohlin dampers and Brembo brakes and 469bhp?
@dave9614
@dave9614 2 жыл бұрын
The P2 for me. Still looks as modern as it did a few years ago when it was revealed.
@victorc.979
@victorc.979 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, but it is a chinese car🤮
@dave9614
@dave9614 2 жыл бұрын
@@victorc.979 And what's wrong with that? I'm sure you're talking to me on a Chinese made phone, laptop etc right now
@victorc.979
@victorc.979 2 жыл бұрын
@@dave9614 yes, but a Phone is nothing compare to an car price, and if I could buy an german Phone, I would buy it insantly, but they are all made in China, and this is also why I'am keeping my Phone for more than 3 years already
@dave9614
@dave9614 2 жыл бұрын
@@victorc.979 Didn't answer my question; what's wrong with Chinese products? They are high quality, often higher quality than German brands.
@victorc.979
@victorc.979 2 жыл бұрын
@@dave9614 the fact that I they are gaining more and more money and their gouvernement is not a good one, and they treat their people(the workers) like animals, and it is not a good thing for Europe if we move all the production in China
@stegeorgy60
@stegeorgy60 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video and great presentation. P2 for me, but I would say that as I have one ordered in due in a couple of weeks. Just wish it was a bit lighter and had the I4 range.
@JonUsher
@JonUsher 2 жыл бұрын
The Nissan LEAF had the function in the sat nav to tell you how far you could drive with remaining charge in 2011 - nice of BMW to catch up!
@wilber8260
@wilber8260 2 жыл бұрын
Way back then us Leaf drivers called that the GOM. the Guess-O-Meter, because of how inaccurate it was! I dont pay attention to it in my i4, nor in my Tesla MY.
@CampGareth
@CampGareth 9 ай бұрын
​@wilber8260 there was also a circle on the map with e.g. a 50 mile radius, iirc it was more pessimistic and therefore accurate than the GoM.
@Robert-bv7of
@Robert-bv7of 2 жыл бұрын
Overview of the cabin makes no reference to use of soft or hard touch plastics. The BMW infotainment menu had so many widgets on it that it looked like an unorganized App Drawer on a phone, no criticism?
@SmartMart1658
@SmartMart1658 2 жыл бұрын
The Polestar 2 single motor gets better range (336 miles WLTP) than the dual motor - prices start at £44,900. Polestar looks better IMHO - hate the BMW grill. I bought a Tesla Model Y recently and I'm loving it! My first EV.
@Somun-a
@Somun-a 2 жыл бұрын
2:53 "It's kind of under the radar" BMW Grill: Hey, wassup?
@BogeyTheBear
@BogeyTheBear 7 ай бұрын
It's an electric sheep disguised as a gas-guzzling wolf-- complete with a big set of teeth.
@MrAsunderland
@MrAsunderland 2 жыл бұрын
No mention that the Polestar2 steering has different settings which is akin to sports or relaxed handling, also the single pedal driving has different settings linked to regenerative breaking. There are lots of other functions that were not explored and a more balanced review of inside tech would give a balanced view. Oh and for transparency...I am a Polestar lover after test driving one, so there is a hint of bias...despite my comments being based on fact!!! Lol 🤗
@ToneTravels
@ToneTravels Жыл бұрын
I've got the BMW i4, had it a year now and its an amazing car. Although public charging in the UK is a nightmare, but that's not the cars fault. I've got it as a company car for four years in total but I would happily take another one when the renewal comes round.
@andreasl4507
@andreasl4507 10 ай бұрын
Had the bmw for one week and didn’t feel nothing special but the polestar 2024 is amazing 600 km cool drive. Great feeling also!
@ToneTravels
@ToneTravels 10 ай бұрын
@@andreasl4507 yeh but it’s a Volvo…
@kevenharvey9711
@kevenharvey9711 2 жыл бұрын
The i4 just looks better, inside and out, but if I was to get one, I would do something about the glossy black on the front grill, makes it look more offensive than it needs to.
@adrianbroome7236
@adrianbroome7236 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with Polestar 2 but I am so looking forward to taking delivery of my BMW i4 eDrive 40 in March.
@artemzhdanov7119
@artemzhdanov7119 2 жыл бұрын
Polestar 2 , android automative is a big advantage and i4 look like all over ICE bmw models. You should compare both dual motors. Bmw dual motors is really fast but the range is very low
@thomaswellens2388
@thomaswellens2388 2 жыл бұрын
The Polestar 2 is about 2,5 years older than the BMW … it would be shocking if battery and charging of the BMW would be worse. Saying the BMW feels exactly the same as a normal BMW, is not a compliment, electric driving is a superior driving experience with the exception of the range. The infotainment is upgraded nicely, but still that ancient control wheel in the middle.
@rossbransby
@rossbransby 2 жыл бұрын
Assuming it's a press car, who from BMW allowed it to go out with the registration YAWN?
@MrBazsi888
@MrBazsi888 2 жыл бұрын
range & aero matters. i4 for me. i would take it with 17 inch rims for even better efficiency.
@Trades46
@Trades46 2 жыл бұрын
Probably the two choices for my next car. In terms of design I like the Polestar more, but the BMW has better drivetrain and interior.
@craigo2656
@craigo2656 2 жыл бұрын
Simple choice BMW, support western democratic jobs and economy that you belong to. The Polestar is Chinese, who have essentially declared war on the west and threatened many western countries. China (Geely) are in the process of moving Volvo to China as they slowly hollow out western industry and jobs. They cannot get traction with their own brands so they use western brands against us. This hollowing out will eventually hollow out every single sector as they move all industries in house to China. China are literally an enemy, that may sound like hyperbole but it manifestly isn't. They are a communist/totalitarian regime. Partnership is not a part of their thinking process. It is the cover they use to slowly dismember western economies. They do not want partnership they want control and ownership. This is an will increasingly bleed in to political control and eventually erosion of western freedoms. China simply cannot allow freedom of thought or speech, it is not only antithetical but an existential threat to their regime. They cannot limit restrictions of freedom to their own country as this is a constant pressure on their regime. So they need to extinguish freedom in as many places as possible. All empires spread their model. This will eventually be true for us. We are walking ourselves in to totalitarian control. If you think it seems too far fetched then you need to think deeper and harder. If you think this process will be benign, it will not be. They will slowly tighten their grip on democracy. Your government will be controlled by China, you will not be allowed to change your government and your government will impose every single decision handed down by China. You will not be able to protest or question this decision. You and your children will grow up without any freedom for the rest of your/their lives. As one example China force sterilises people, in the 80's Chinese themselves, now Uyghurs.
@gavinwhite9743
@gavinwhite9743 2 жыл бұрын
Have swapped my BMW5 series which I loved for the Polestar2. You can get a highly specced Polestar compared to the basic BMW I4 at the same money. The BMW will be 10k more(at least) to get something close. I'm a convert to it's looks inside and out, as well as it's highly intuitive google software, which is better. Fast, fun, and kinda Scandi cool.
@stevem2323
@stevem2323 2 жыл бұрын
You swapped a 5 series for Polestar? Jesus man 🤦.
@itsm3th3b33
@itsm3th3b33 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing of value that I got out of this "review" is that the green color isn't as bad as it looks in the BMW build website.
@jonassteger-jensen4136
@jonassteger-jensen4136 4 ай бұрын
You actually CAN put the Polestar 2 i nsport mode. I have driven one and it was a joy - havent driven the BMW though.
@martinsimson3535
@martinsimson3535 2 жыл бұрын
Please do a BMW i4 vs KIA EV6 comparison.
@Yanquetino
@Yanquetino 2 жыл бұрын
Informative comparison. I think I'd opt for the P2, but I'd need to actually see and drive them to say for sure. I wish that in your review you'd have mentioned what driver assistance features they have. I would imagine traffic-aware cruise control is a given, but what about auto lane steering or even auto lane change? If the latter features are available, how hands-free are they?
@craigo2656
@craigo2656 2 жыл бұрын
Simple choice BMW, support western democratic jobs and economy that you belong to. The Polestar is Chinese, who have essentially declared war on the west and threatened many western countries. China (Geely) are in the process of moving Volvo to China as they slowly hollow out western industry and jobs. They cannot get traction with their own brands so they use western brands against us. This hollowing out will eventually hollow out every single sector as they move all industries in house to China. China are literally an enemy, that may sound like hyperbole but it manifestly isn't. They are a communist/totalitarian regime. Partnership is not a part of their thinking process. It is the cover they use to slowly dismember western economies. They do not want partnership they want control and ownership. This is an will increasingly bleed in to political control and eventually erosion of western freedoms. China simply cannot allow freedom of thought or speech, it is not only antithetical but an existential threat to their regime. They cannot limit restrictions of freedom to their own country as this is a constant pressure on their regime. So they need to extinguish freedom in as many places as possible. All empires spread their model. This will eventually be true for us. We are walking ourselves in to totalitarian control. If you think it seems too far fetched then you need to think deeper and harder. If you think this process will be benign, it will not be. They will slowly tighten their grip on democracy. Your government will be controlled by China, you will not be allowed to change your government and your government will impose every single decision handed down by China. You will not be able to protest or question this decision. You and your children will grow up without any freedom for the rest of your/their lives. As one example China force sterilises people, in the 80's Chinese themselves, now Uyghurs.
@guttagutta420
@guttagutta420 2 жыл бұрын
@Voltify Exactly. Tired of being nickeled and dimed for features that should just be standard at that price tag.
@paulie1428
@paulie1428 2 жыл бұрын
P2 owner here. The driver assistance package called ‘Pilot’ cost extra but has all those features. Basically Polestar 2 has three options : Plus - panoramic roof; better sound system + Pilot - Driver assistance package Performance- bigger wheels, better braking +
@fmartin59
@fmartin59 Жыл бұрын
Look up out of spec reviews and Bjorn he covered all that
@richardshiggins704
@richardshiggins704 Жыл бұрын
I think I would go for the Polestar . I find the interior presentation is less fussy and overwhelming . The price also clinches the deal for me .
@JustMe99999
@JustMe99999 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think you can go wrong with either one; I'd get either one over a Tesla. I think the i4 is a little nicer than the Polestar, and that's probably the direction I'd go in (the eDrive 40 seems to be the best value of the three i4's as well... the m50 is awesome but not for an additional $10k). One thing to keep in mind (and this probably isn't an issue in the UK) if you're buying in the US is that Polestar's dealer network is still pretty small. The closest one to me is almost 3 hours away, which isn't really practical.
@brianwilson245
@brianwilson245 2 жыл бұрын
P2 for me: I can look at it without hurting my eyes!!!
@_TrueDesire_
@_TrueDesire_ 2 жыл бұрын
don't forget to download the additional horsepower on the Polestar :)
@ProfRCook
@ProfRCook 2 жыл бұрын
'Love your videos and presenters. Really nice to watch. Thank you. You said you were comparing the top spec Polestar, but you didn't, and the styling and ride quality really are different with the 20 inch wheels, the Brembo brakes, ohlins dampers, and color accents. It seemed quite difficult to navigate through the BMW menus to get to the safety features. Much quicker with the Polestar.
@craigo2656
@craigo2656 2 жыл бұрын
Simple choice BMW, support western democratic jobs and economy that you belong to. The Polestar is Chinese, who have essentially declared war on the west and threatened many western countries. China (Geely) are in the process of moving Volvo to China as they slowly hollow out western industry and jobs. They cannot get traction with their own brands so they use western brands against us. This hollowing out will eventually hollow out every single sector as they move all industries in house to China. China are literally an enemy, that may sound like hyperbole but it manifestly isn't. They are a communist/totalitarian regime. Partnership is not a part of their thinking process. It is the cover they use to slowly dismember western economies. They do not want partnership they want control and ownership. This is an will increasingly bleed in to political control and eventually erosion of western freedoms. China simply cannot allow freedom of thought or speech, it is not only antithetical but an existential threat to their regime. They cannot limit restrictions of freedom to their own country as this is a constant pressure on their regime. So they need to extinguish freedom in as many places as possible. All empires spread their model. This will eventually be true for us. We are walking ourselves in to totalitarian control. If you think it seems too far fetched then you need to think deeper and harder. If you think this process will be benign, it will not be. They will slowly tighten their grip on democracy. Your government will be controlled by China, you will not be allowed to change your government and your government will impose every single decision handed down by China. You will not be able to protest or question this decision. You and your children will grow up without any freedom for the rest of your/their lives. As one example China force sterilises people, in the 80's Chinese themselves, now Uyghurs.
@madonemt
@madonemt 2 жыл бұрын
Hard pass on the BMW for the grille alone. Evs don't even need them but at least polestar made theirs aesthetically pleasing. BMW have forgotten how to make decent looking cars.
@DougDoan
@DougDoan 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it looks like rabbit teeth. I ordered a P2 with all 3 packs.
@madonemt
@madonemt 2 жыл бұрын
@@DougDoan p2 too. Shorter range though to keep insurance down cos the mrs only has a provisional licence. Ordered plus, pilot, leather seats though.
@cyco1978
@cyco1978 2 жыл бұрын
I own a P2 & I definitely agree with everything
@PaceyPimp
@PaceyPimp 2 жыл бұрын
You said BMW was more refined more about the drive yet you said the Polestar 2 was a funner faster drive so. P2 for me
@sevensixtysteve8662
@sevensixtysteve8662 2 жыл бұрын
Great review thanks although it would have been good to see more on the assistance systems. Polestar for me although I’d go for rear motor long range. I prefer the fact it’s a dedicated EV platform as well as the overall design and looks.
@MirkoReinhardt
@MirkoReinhardt 2 жыл бұрын
The Polestar is not on a dedicated EV platform.
@saladien9987
@saladien9987 2 жыл бұрын
Polestar 2 is based on a 2016 concept gasoline car. No ev platform yet. That’s polestar 3
@andrewparker5800
@andrewparker5800 2 жыл бұрын
Polestar 2 please. Mine is due in two weeks.
@LotiLaw
@LotiLaw 2 жыл бұрын
That Polestar 2 is not top spec. You don’t have the performance package which adds the adjustable Ohlins dampers, Brenbo brakes, 20” forged alloy performance wheels with performance summer tires, and all the cool gold accents and seatbelts. That’s going to make a big difference if you want to have a more sporty drive by tightening up the suspension and being able to smash the brakes, or you can loosen up the suspension and get an even smoother ride than a P2 without the performance package. Also not a big deal but if you’re talking truly top spec P2 then you’re also missing the leather interior option Edit: Also, there’s a performance software update coming out this spring that bring the P2 from 408hp up to 472hp Edit 2: There seems to be a fair bit of misinformation in this video, the ranges are both wrong by quite a bit, and the app for the bmw they were talking about is also available with the P2. The BMW base spec is going to be slower than the P2, but the i4 m50 performance is going to have a faster 0-60 than the P2 at the expense of range and costing more than a truly top spec P2 even before adding any packages or add ons. I read in the comments that they might be sponsored or have some connection to BMW, which makes it even more strange that they got info wrong even on the BMW.
@craigo2656
@craigo2656 2 жыл бұрын
Simple choice BMW, support western democratic jobs and economy that you belong to. The Polestar is Chinese, who have essentially declared war on the west and threatened many western countries. China (Geely) are in the process of moving Volvo to China as they slowly hollow out western industry and jobs. They cannot get traction with their own brands so they use western brands against us. This hollowing out will eventually hollow out every single sector as they move all industries in house to China. China are literally an enemy, that may sound like hyperbole but it manifestly isn't. They are a communist/totalitarian regime. Partnership is not a part of their thinking process. It is the cover they use to slowly dismember western economies. They do not want partnership they want control and ownership. This is an will increasingly bleed in to political control and eventually erosion of western freedoms. China simply cannot allow freedom of thought or speech, it is not only antithetical but an existential threat to their regime. They cannot limit restrictions of freedom to their own country as this is a constant pressure on their regime. So they need to extinguish freedom in as many places as possible. All empires spread their model. This will eventually be true for us. We are walking ourselves in to totalitarian control. If you think it seems too far fetched then you need to think deeper and harder. If you think this process will be benign, it will not be. They will slowly tighten their grip on democracy. Your government will be controlled by China, you will not be allowed to change your government and your government will impose every single decision handed down by China. You will not be able to protest or question this decision. You and your children will grow up without any freedom for the rest of your/their lives. As one example China force sterilises people, in the 80's Chinese themselves, now Uyghurs.
@Beastius24
@Beastius24 2 жыл бұрын
polestar for me. I hate BMWs for various reasons although all the issues I had was with ICE models. I just love the elegance and confidence that the Volvo (Polestar) gives :)
@EVsteve80
@EVsteve80 2 жыл бұрын
I vote BMW. Better handling, smoother ride quality, and a real sunroof! Good comparison, however
@choboutube
@choboutube 2 жыл бұрын
Air conditioning FTW. I drove a convertible for a few years, and only put the top down a dozen times. Doesn't make sense in hot climates.
@kcd2120
@kcd2120 2 жыл бұрын
In the US, the BMW is supposed to have 301 miles or range - must be a different test cycle than the U.K. with its 365 mile range.
@ahsannasir6214
@ahsannasir6214 2 ай бұрын
what people tend to ignore in this video is that the P2 and BMW with exact configuration shown in this video have around 10K price difference between them :-s so why would we expect P2 to be better? I think in terms of value, P2 is a higher value car but i4 is overall a better car with a fat pricetag.
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh 2 жыл бұрын
There can be no doubting the BMW's abilities. But it's a BMW, and not everyone might want a BMW. The Polestar looks interesting, and has lots of Volvo influence in it's make-up. I'd take a close look at it if I were in the market for a car like this..... As mentioned in the video, the Polestar is less fussy to look at. That would be a factor for me, as BMW seem to have lost their edge these days as far as design goes. That BMW grille is enough to scare small dogs and younger children.... The practicality of both cars is good, which, for me, is where the Tesla Model 3 falls down. What's perhaps sometimes worth thinking about here is the fact that we're basically around 10 years in with mass production EV's. I look forward to seeing where we'll be in just a few more years.....
@weightliftingdoktor
@weightliftingdoktor 2 жыл бұрын
How is the model 3 not "practical?"
@guttagutta420
@guttagutta420 2 жыл бұрын
@@weightliftingdoktor For starters it doesn't have a driver display cluster and in lieu of that they couldn't even be bothered to put a heads up display.
@weightliftingdoktor
@weightliftingdoktor 2 жыл бұрын
@@guttagutta420 same setup in the Model Y (preferred it to a previous model 3) and really didn't find those feature, or lack thereof regarding an HUD, troublesome enough to call the car "impractical" as a whole. But I see how it can bother some, and you. I have a 7 yr old model S and do prefer the separate driver display so buy can keep my line of sight while driving but my wife doesnt seem to care. Maybe relevant to this, Our Acura MDX died in the garage from non-use over the winter.
@guttagutta420
@guttagutta420 2 жыл бұрын
@@weightliftingdoktor What do you mean it died? You left it sitting over the winter and went to crank it and nothing? Strange...🤔 In any case it's definitely different strokes for different folks. I recently purchased a model 3 and for what they're charging for them I'm terribly disappointed. They bill them as luxury but in my opinion they're anything but. Get past the acceleration and you're left with a very minimalist overpriced car. There are just too many features missing that my $30k Hyundai has stock. There's no dedicated blind spot detection (alerts on mirrors), no ventilated seats, no cluster or hud, shotty build quality, auto park is hidden behind a $12k software upgrade (something my old Buick could do for free). And don't even get me started on the rip off that is fsd. There are cars out there that can keep itself centered in it's lane (including around curves on the highway), perform lane changes when you activate the blinker, slow (to a stop if necessary) and resume speed and maintain following distance all for free (my car is one of them)...I smell a class action lawsuit soon. At this point Tesla is just taking folks money for r&d and that's not cool. Fsd is nowhere near completion and yet they're still charging an arm and a leg for it as if it's a fully functional thing. Oh and my Hyundai has a digital key too so there's literally nothing my model 3 does better besides accelerate and my Hyundai was damn near half the price.
@weightliftingdoktor
@weightliftingdoktor 2 жыл бұрын
In no way would I really consider model 3 "luxury." It had quite a few shortcomings, maybe we had a bad build, I don't know. Traded it in for the Model Y. The MDX dying was my fault, I let the battery drain from non-use several months and thru the winter. I dont feel comfortable using FSD, I didn't bother to buy it. I do like the basic "autopilot" (misnomer) on my model s which is just basically like GM's super cruise good for highway driving. I'm glad there are more options from EVs now. Hyundai, and KIA are putting out good cars for more reasonable prices indeed.
@SavvyMoneyShow
@SavvyMoneyShow 2 жыл бұрын
Like and subscribed I love the polestar when I sell my leaf I am getting a polestar
@solidoperative
@solidoperative Жыл бұрын
I do wish BMW would sort the grills out. So close...
@badhairday_247
@badhairday_247 2 жыл бұрын
Not a tough decision, Tesla has the fast charging network. No range anxiety is a thing.
@badhairday_247
@badhairday_247 2 жыл бұрын
@@oldbasted With the production capability of Tesla and how well they’re selling I wouldn’t be so sure the superchargers will open to the public. Hope your BMW isn’t plagued with battery and software problems a la Audi and VW.
@badhairday_247
@badhairday_247 2 жыл бұрын
@@oldbasted Let’s see what happens in the UK. Knowing a Tesla can plan, give the status and stall availability from the nav menu is quite the reassurance. Oh, and nothing thrashes a Tesla, not even a BMW.
@Nickbaldeagle02
@Nickbaldeagle02 2 жыл бұрын
This is a BMW vs Polestar video.
@TheSlideshowtube
@TheSlideshowtube 2 жыл бұрын
My tesla's quality is absolute crap. Looking forward to getting rid of it. If I could swap it for an i4 today I would in a heartbeat.
@MichaelSimony
@MichaelSimony 2 жыл бұрын
I take the BMW i4, because I like the design and long range.
@d.n.3086
@d.n.3086 10 ай бұрын
No its gay
@doubleatube
@doubleatube Жыл бұрын
How do you get 365 miles of range in UK when here in the US it says 301 miles? Strange.
@BogeyTheBear
@BogeyTheBear Жыл бұрын
Because BMW understates and over-delivers. Consumer Reports did a highway-only range test on various EVs and their i4 got to 318 miles. Doesn't sound all that impressive until you learn it was the dual-motor M50 that they used in the test.
@svenn6242
@svenn6242 2 жыл бұрын
One thing you didn’t mention was the phone app. Polestar app is not good, according to a polestar owner I know. It’s very bad actually. BMW app isn’t very good, but it works. If you try to preheat your polestar, you may not get any connection. In the bmw it works ..most of the time.
@Leffe123
@Leffe123 2 жыл бұрын
I finally got used to THE BMWs hiddeous grill
@GadgetsBoy
@GadgetsBoy 2 жыл бұрын
ohhh this one will divide the crowd...I'm with the Polestar on this one, although the i4 is a great car too for BMW owners and lovers
@richardwilliams850
@richardwilliams850 2 жыл бұрын
Ive just test driven the i4 M50 , drive 40 and polestar . I currently have a mini electric and had high hopes for the BMW. My son has the new 220i coupe which for me is a much better drive than the I4. I was disappointed in the ride of the I4 - the adaptive dampers made it float and feel detached on the road . The polestar is not as sporty but was my choice . It is very personal and I think they are both awesome cars.
@JustMe99999
@JustMe99999 2 жыл бұрын
The m50 actually drives worse than the eDrive 40 according to most of the reviews I've seen.
@Shinael
@Shinael Жыл бұрын
A late comment: I choose the i4. By the way I just order one yesterday, same color as yours: the marvellous San Remo Green. 😁
@steverobinson2389
@steverobinson2389 2 жыл бұрын
As a 4 series Coupe drive I would go for the BMW but mainly because of the faster charging time and range
@Spoolingturbski
@Spoolingturbski 2 жыл бұрын
This channels presenter gets sponsored by BMW though… Also, the BMW did break the internet with style, and is certainly not under the radar. The front grille is by far the worst styling decision since the Pontiac Astek
@Ianmundo
@Ianmundo 2 жыл бұрын
I drove and iX yesterday and what struck me (I own a Tesla Model Y) is that the infotainment is baffling, regen is very weak and the gear shifter is rubbish versus a column shifter
@colossus_g
@colossus_g 2 жыл бұрын
You pay a premium for going electric, and the best they can say is it feels just like a petrol car.... BIG FAIL for the BMW. If I am going to pay more for something I expect it to be a better product. The Polestar 2 is a better product than a comparably priced ICE car. Clearly the winner here.
@DavidThomas-bv5nz
@DavidThomas-bv5nz 2 жыл бұрын
Really interesting watch, I’ve test driven the Polestar 2 today, I hate the centre console, the performance was superb. The range worries me slightly. The other option that I am looking at is the i4, the M50 is a little out of my price range. I currently drive a 330e so the bmw is the ‘familiar’ car. I am torn, what I do know is that I 100% don’t want a Tesla. The polestar was different with some nice touches, it also drove me a little nuts with the centre console and banging my knee, will I/could I get over that? The rear seat space in bmw is worse, slightly bigger boot but with no front trunk…. Will welcome replies to help me choose!!
@FreeRsGuides
@FreeRsGuides 2 жыл бұрын
Polestar 3 was just announced, maybe that's something to hold off for
@DavidThomas-bv5nz
@DavidThomas-bv5nz 2 жыл бұрын
@@FreeRsGuides unfortunately I wasn’t in a position to wait and have ordered the i4
@FreeRsGuides
@FreeRsGuides 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidThomas-bv5nz Fair enough :), congratulations! Great looking car I hope you enjoy it
@benjaminsmith2287
@benjaminsmith2287 2 жыл бұрын
@@FreeRsGuides So much bigger and will be almost twice the price.
@TheSlideshowtube
@TheSlideshowtube 2 жыл бұрын
Same. Test drove a polestar 2. I liked it. Didn't LOVE it. Worst thing is the hard plastic center console angled section that restricts your leg for no excusable reason. If I loved the styling I might overlook it, but it's a little too boxy and plain for me. I want an i4, but the wait is long and the chip shortage means no adaptive cruise control, which I can't tolerate.
@ebzoid
@ebzoid 2 жыл бұрын
The screen itself looks lovely. However, I don’t go a bundle on the plastic “struts” at the back seemingly propping it up. Who came up with that as a design feature? Not only is it ugly, but I can just imagine fingers getting caught and knuckles grazed trying to dust and clean behind the screen!
@jetpylot7523
@jetpylot7523 2 жыл бұрын
I probably would have gotten the i4 had it been available last year when I needed to return my beautiful 440i GC . I had made a decision to go electric . I wasn’t going to get an M3 for a number of reasons . I have no regrets at all choosing my P*2 !
@craigo2656
@craigo2656 2 жыл бұрын
Simple choice BMW, support western democratic jobs and economy that you belong to. The Polestar is Chinese, who have essentially declared war on the west and threatened many western countries. China (Geely) are in the process of moving Volvo to China as they slowly hollow out western industry and jobs. They cannot get traction with their own brands so they use western brands against us. This hollowing out will eventually hollow out every single sector as they move all industries in house to China. China are literally an enemy, that may sound like hyperbole but it manifestly isn't. They are a communist/totalitarian regime. Partnership is not a part of their thinking process. It is the cover they use to slowly dismember western economies. They do not want partnership they want control and ownership. This is an will increasingly bleed in to political control and eventually erosion of western freedoms. China simply cannot allow freedom of thought or speech, it is not only antithetical but an existential threat to their regime. They cannot limit restrictions of freedom to their own country as this is a constant pressure on their regime. So they need to extinguish freedom in as many places as possible. All empires spread their model. This will eventually be true for us. We are walking ourselves in to totalitarian control. If you think it seems too far fetched then you need to think deeper and harder. If you think this process will be benign, it will not be. They will slowly tighten their grip on democracy. Your government will be controlled by China, you will not be allowed to change your government and your government will impose every single decision handed down by China. You will not be able to protest or question this decision. You and your children will grow up without any freedom for the rest of your/their lives. As one example China force sterilises people, in the 80's Chinese themselves, now Uyghurs.
@savedfaves
@savedfaves 2 жыл бұрын
I wish you guys could quote additionally real-word range besides WLTP range. You can come up with the real-world range easily by looking at Bjorn Nyland's range test review of said car. No need to even test the range, your reviews can focus on everything else. Manufacturer's range claims are always wrong.
@samueld6511
@samueld6511 2 жыл бұрын
Yes but if you use the sat nav in the Polestar it has preconditioning so charging in winter is superior!
@trollking100
@trollking100 2 жыл бұрын
I love both of these cars but the BMW edges it for me
@marcel3045
@marcel3045 Жыл бұрын
My choice is the P2: Great car, best value. The BMW seems like a valuable option, too, but was not available 3 years ago. The model 3 was ruled out for missing practicality (no hatchback), bad lights and annoying blim-blim sounds.
@theotah
@theotah 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys- have been waiting for this comparison for quite some months now!- however I couldn’t make a pick, love them both for different reasons- waiting for the fall update on the polestar 2, finally bringing apple car play
@craigo2656
@craigo2656 2 жыл бұрын
Simple choice BMW, support western democratic jobs and economy that you belong to. The Polestar is Chinese, who have essentially declared war on the west and threatened many western countries. China (Geely) are in the process of moving Volvo to China as they slowly hollow out western industry and jobs. They cannot get traction with their own brands so they use western brands against us. This hollowing out will eventually hollow out every single sector as they move all industries in house to China. China are literally an enemy, that may sound like hyperbole but it manifestly isn't. They are a communist/totalitarian regime. Partnership is not a part of their thinking process. It is the cover they use to slowly dismember western economies. They do not want partnership they want control and ownership. This is an will increasingly bleed in to political control and eventually erosion of western freedoms. China simply cannot allow freedom of thought or speech, it is not only antithetical but an existential threat to their regime. They cannot limit restrictions of freedom to their own country as this is a constant pressure on their regime. So they need to extinguish freedom in as many places as possible. All empires spread their model. This will eventually be true for us. We are walking ourselves in to totalitarian control. If you think it seems too far fetched then you need to think deeper and harder. If you think this process will be benign, it will not be. They will slowly tighten their grip on democracy. Your government will be controlled by China, you will not be allowed to change your government and your government will impose every single decision handed down by China. You will not be able to protest or question this decision. You and your children will grow up without any freedom for the rest of your/their lives. As one example China force sterilises people, in the 80's Chinese themselves, now Uyghurs.
@xondeez757
@xondeez757 2 жыл бұрын
well thats easy. if you can afford it pick bmw, if not pick polestar. bmw is like 15-20k more expensive if you want full options and not just standard bmw
@JustMe99999
@JustMe99999 2 жыл бұрын
@@xondeez757 Is it really that much more expensive in the UK for the BMW with the options? Here in the US, the eDrive 40 tops out at about $64k USD with every option on it.
@xondeez757
@xondeez757 2 жыл бұрын
@@JustMe99999 i dont know about USA but in many European countries you have to pay like 20-25% import tax which greatly increases the price of a car. a typical 22k car in USA will cost like 30k in europe. this is why many europeans despite being wealthier on average than americans drive older and worse cars. with my 50k salary, i can only afford a Golf but in america i could easily afford a polestar or bmw with this salary. its sad but the tradeoffs are worth it.
@zargorn
@zargorn 2 жыл бұрын
I actually like the BMW because of the grille ...
@blackstars3720
@blackstars3720 2 жыл бұрын
why do people hate on the grill, it's fantastic
@Otrebor0707
@Otrebor0707 2 жыл бұрын
Something to note is not every Volvo dealership would service Polestar cars & even Volvo centers are limited compared to BMW.
@torrhthc4103
@torrhthc4103 2 жыл бұрын
Can u guys review the eqe43 or 53 amg?
@petercole474
@petercole474 2 жыл бұрын
For me Model 3 is still in a league above these two. Tesla supercharging is also still key for ease of charging and roadtrips in UK.
@raftonpounder6696
@raftonpounder6696 2 жыл бұрын
No contest. If you appreciate a fine driver’s car there is only one choice. BMW.
@kcd2120
@kcd2120 2 жыл бұрын
Can you use the BMW’s iDrive to change the temperature, fan speed and so on?
@joakimkarlsson4274
@joakimkarlsson4274 2 жыл бұрын
Off course
@buizel91
@buizel91 2 жыл бұрын
He's hoping for more vids with Tomi - great presenter!
@DER_FENRISW0LF
@DER_FENRISW0LF 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who had a Polestar 2 and had Polestar take it back amidst all the still ongoing problems: this isn't even a comparison. You get better range, better comfort, heck you get a better car all around...it might be more expensive on the list price, but at least in Germany you would get your normal discount on the BMW buying it from a car dealer vs. the non-negotiable online price of the P2. I mean just look at the sales numbers of the P2 to get a sense where this car is headed...
@MrBazsi888
@MrBazsi888 2 жыл бұрын
which is better?
@mortenee88
@mortenee88 2 жыл бұрын
The Skoda enyaq coupe is what I would choose :)
@garretthussey1851
@garretthussey1851 2 жыл бұрын
P2 for me, BMW just seems more of the same looks wise. P2 feels like the next generation inside and out.
@trevorsutherland5263
@trevorsutherland5263 2 жыл бұрын
Bimmer every time. It costs more because you get more. However I'd take the Polestar and be perfectly happy if I couldn't afford the BMW.
@Static.Display
@Static.Display 2 жыл бұрын
the polestar 2 looks so good
@StarryTemplar
@StarryTemplar 2 жыл бұрын
How come USA BMW is only 300 miles i4 and 270 miles i4 M50?????
@BogeyTheBear
@BogeyTheBear Жыл бұрын
'Murica has real mountains and elevation changes. Car's gotta climb the Rockies. Britain is farmland surrounded by a ton of sea.
@Simpleboneguy
@Simpleboneguy 2 жыл бұрын
Does the Polestar have Android Auto?
@HaxoReSc
@HaxoReSc 2 жыл бұрын
The Polestar is not top-speced as mentioned at the start..
@kogikashakunin4683
@kogikashakunin4683 2 жыл бұрын
and the i4 was. The price difference is actually quite big between the cars shown. Not the 6K base price difference.
@xondeez757
@xondeez757 2 жыл бұрын
why is no one mentioning the price? bmw with normal specs in the car cost 15k more than the polestar! 20k more if you want full specs in the car!
@kyonesdelle1427
@kyonesdelle1427 2 жыл бұрын
What’s the name of the color of the polestar 2?
@mroek
@mroek 2 жыл бұрын
It's called "void". it's just a bog standard non-metallic black.
@devislu1
@devislu1 2 жыл бұрын
I'd go for the i4 anytime. The P2 is even less attractive than a Tesla...
@wuss999
@wuss999 2 жыл бұрын
I have an F36 so it's the i4 every day for me!
@BuckFush08
@BuckFush08 2 жыл бұрын
"Frunk" is used here in the U.S., being a combination of Front + Trunk... Being in England, it's referred to the rear storage as the "Boot"... just curious, shouldn't you be referring to the front storage as the "Froot"???
@ericedge2929
@ericedge2929 2 жыл бұрын
*frunk
@BuckFush08
@BuckFush08 2 жыл бұрын
@@ericedge2929 my bad... typo. Thanks!
@technologyandsociety21C
@technologyandsociety21C 2 жыл бұрын
The Polestar2 sounds like a better value to me.
@davidcarvalho8067
@davidcarvalho8067 2 жыл бұрын
P2 for me
@asmartdude7428
@asmartdude7428 2 жыл бұрын
The idiotic looking kidney grills of the i4 alone makes it UNBUYABLE, such a shame because everything else is spot on
@hieroglyph321
@hieroglyph321 2 жыл бұрын
In dark colors you get away with it, saw one yesterday irl and it's fine. Dark maroon or black look bad@ss
@craigo2656
@craigo2656 2 жыл бұрын
Simple choice BMW, support western democratic jobs and economy that you belong to. The Polestar is Chinese, who have essentially declared war on the west and threatened many western countries. China (Geely) are in the process of moving Volvo to China as they slowly hollow out western industry and jobs. They cannot get traction with their own brands so they use western brands against us. This hollowing out will eventually hollow out every single sector as they move all industries in house to China. China are literally an enemy, that may sound like hyperbole but it manifestly isn't. They are a communist/totalitarian regime. Partnership is not a part of their thinking process. It is the cover they use to slowly dismember western economies. They do not want partnership they want control and ownership. This is an will increasingly bleed in to political control and eventually erosion of western freedoms. China simply cannot allow freedom of thought or speech, it is not only antithetical but an existential threat to their regime. They cannot limit restrictions of freedom to their own country as this is a constant pressure on their regime. So they need to extinguish freedom in as many places as possible. All empires spread their model. This will eventually be true for us. We are walking ourselves in to totalitarian control. If you think it seems too far fetched then you need to think deeper and harder. If you think this process will be benign, it will not be. They will slowly tighten their grip on democracy. Your government will be controlled by China, you will not be allowed to change your government and your government will impose every single decision handed down by China. You will not be able to protest or question this decision. You and your children will grow up without any freedom for the rest of your/their lives. As one example China force sterilises people, in the 80's Chinese themselves, now Uyghurs.
@kcwolf4624
@kcwolf4624 3 ай бұрын
I came here to decide which one of these to buy .......I really can't split them , just gonna have to toss a coin I think 🤔
@wolverine3344
@wolverine3344 2 жыл бұрын
New kid on the block for me. Wife comments after every drive in her Polestar 2.
@peteramey9385
@peteramey9385 2 жыл бұрын
You can't really compare the two as like for like as the I4 is designed as an ICE car (4 series) and adapted for electric. It has a transmission tunnel, no front storage and a fuel filler cap holder?? and is very heavy.
@TheSlideshowtube
@TheSlideshowtube 2 жыл бұрын
Polestar 2 shares a platform with ICE volvos.
@paulmilsom1346
@paulmilsom1346 2 жыл бұрын
I just changed my 4 series diesel Gran Coupe for the Skoda Enyaq. I couldn't afford the BMW at more than £50k, but I would choose it over the Polestar
@leftcoaster67
@leftcoaster67 2 жыл бұрын
Beaver I4.... :D I like it.
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