2024 VW ID.7 vs BYD Seal vs Polestar 2. Time to cancel the Tesla? | Electrifying.com

[@vasil7410]

I'm 6'3" and never had a problem getting into the Seal. Try lowering the seat and enabling comfort entry, which automatically slides the seat backwards and forwards when opening and closing the door.

[@hamodalbatal464]

Won’t drive that Chinese junk even if I get paid.

[@vasil7410]

​@@hamodalbatal464I'm sure you can't even afford it 😂

[@bmc8195]

I'm fat, and I found it easy enough too. But my elderly relatives (who I drive around a lot) might struggle a bit: I'm probably going to to wait for the Sea Lion (basically a tall Seal), as an SUV will work better for them.

[@GT86crazy]

@@hamodalbatal464 better not buy the polestar then, that's made in china too

[@FGGiskard]

@@hamodalbatal464 😂 I wouldn’t but just because I don’t see the point of buying that over a Tesla Model 3. The interior of the BYD is just horrendous for me 🤢

[@GT86crazy]

Here in New Zealand the Polestar 2 and BYD Seal are NOT competitors. The PS2 is a lot more expensive. If you spec the equivalent (in performance and features) PS2, ie the Performance pack, dual motor, it costs 120,000 NZD. The top version of the BYD Seal is 84,000 NZD. Not even close. ID 7 isn't available in NZ yet.

[@aq3614]

And the seal still beats ps2 with that big price gap

[@GT86crazy]

@@aq3614 I haven't tried out a PS2 but it's well outside of what I'm willing to pay for an EV regardless. It's harder for EV makers to differentiate themselves than ICE vehicles. Other than range and performance it's really about the quality of the interiors. They are all quiet and fairly comfortable. I don't see how the PS2 is going to be 36000 dollars more car than the Seal

[@budawang77]

The top spec BYD is just 68,748 AUD (35,000 GBP) in Australia. Amazing value.

[@lukemothug]

​@@budawang77I thought it was 74k

[@sibaraku2023]

none of these beats Model 3 highland in NZ. Top spec Seal could only compete with Model 3 LR which is $9,000 cheaper than the Seal performance. It is a no brainer to go for Model 3. I mean come on, $9,000. On the other hand, 100% go for Seal in Australia. It is such a bargain comparing to the NZ price.

[@seanf3255]

Totally agree, I own the BYD Seal Performance here in Thailand, and love driving it everyday.

[@مرواریدمشرقزمین]

BYD It is the best EV car

[@kevinsamuel3930]

Can you please tell me the real world range in city and highway?

[@seanf3255]

@@kevinsamuel3930 550KM

[@vrome8]

The BYD Seal does actually have wireless Android Auto, but Car Play is wired. That's what the dealer said when I went for a test drive in one.

[@avivdy12]

That’s true, but it should not be a deal breaker, it’s updating every now and then. Android auto wireless introduced recently, I guess next update will have CarPlay as well

[@complexcomms]

Definitely has wireless Android auto. Set up mine for a test drive. Do all these reviewers only have lowly Apple products?

[@mf8176]

Dealer told me BYD has applied for a wireless license from Apple so should have that upgrade soonish.

[@刘飞林]

Less than a month after the Chinese New Year, BYD aims to achieve a sales target of 4.5 million vehicles this year. In the first month of the new year, two models will be immediately reduced in price by 20000 yuan. Just noon, other electric vehicle companies in China also lowered the price of some electric vehicles by 20000 yuan, including Hyundai brand gasoline vehicles. I estimate that the Chinese automotive market brands will be updated again this year, and gasoline vehicles will also be reduced in price, If we don't lower the price, we probably won't be able to sell gasoline cars in China. I just took a look and saw that a car model was lowered in the morning, and immediately five car companies followed suit in lowering prices

[@chaozi6688]

I really don’t understand. Chinese cars have already become connected and intelligent, while Europe and the United States are still obsessed with a mobile phone projection software.

[@jameschapman4824]

Options, Options Options. that is all you ever hear from car makers and that is why cars like the BYD will sell. It was the same when the Japanese cars started to arrive in the UK. They provided things like Radios and heaters as standard WOW unheard of on other makers cars unless you got the options list out. And that is why cars like the BYD will succeed in this country.

[@nfzeta128]

The ones trying to enter a market always give customers better options, at least early on. Just gotta hope they don't do the usual and screw you over after they corner the market.

[@alsetalokin88]

byd has been selling like hot cakes back home for years. all those features are not something new. they are pretty standard everywhere from the get go.

[@kwesto03]

Android Auto is wireless here in Australia. Can't wait to get my Seal. I pick it up in 4 weeks.

[@bmc8195]

Oooh, congratulations. Enjoy it!

[@lukemothug]

Which seal did you purchase?

[@seanf3255]

Did you get your Seal yet, and which model did you go for .

[@lukemothug]

@seanf3255 what's grt?

[@seanf3255]

@@lukemothug I not sure what you mean by GRT

[@ridingwithpat]

BYD would be my choice and it's on my shopping list. Value for money, features and performance. New to us but an established brand in China. I saw a BYD plugin hybrid at the 2009 Detroit Auto show, it looked a bit unrefined but now, wow!

[@Stan-at-KangarooIslandTV]

I love my Polestar 2 RWD refresh very very much - it’s a roadtrip machine and built for sheer driving pleasure, plus it has the best mapping and infotainment. I love the design and quality. It’s well suited a single bloke and his dog looking to conquer the long roads of Australia! Both the other cars are excellent though, and I’d take any other EV over a Model T.

[@TB-up4xi]

Lol...."plus it has the best mapping and infotainment" .......nearly fell off my chair laughing so much. Volvo / Polestar software is abominable it's some of the worst software availabe in the EV market - it's only slightly better than Vinfast and Fisker.

[@Colt16v]

@@TB-up4xi Troll. Polestars software coupled with Android Automotive is among the best out there. KZbin music and Spotify is integrated perfectly, along with Maps that gives a really accurate estimate on SoC.

[@GF-ep1pf]

Love our refreshed long range polestar too. Such a joy to drive. I can see the appeal of the BYD for others but don’t like the look of its interior, I appreciate that’s a matter of personal preference.

[@Stan-at-KangarooIslandTV]

@@GF-ep1pf I test drove 10 cars at the Everything Electric Sydney show this month, including a Seal, and my Polestar is still my favourite by far!

[@TB-up4xi]

@@Colt16v delusional much- universally acknowledged as some of the slowest and most laggy software on any EV , put it in reverse..... waiting...... waiting......oh there's the camera, prone to losing LTE and WiFi if you use car play for music and internal maps god forbid you get an inbound text the maps revert to car play and it loses the plot....the list goes on and on...

[@qj4ib]

All three looks better than the Tesla inside and out.

[@nigelb3636]

Not difficult!

[@stuartgifford8672]

@@nigelb3636 Yep hate Teslas, most boring and uncomfortable car on the road.

[@steveflatman]

Can't believe they didnt mention that the BYD has heated & ventilated, electric memory seats, head up display, Adaptive Cruse with Start/Stop & traffic jam assest, Active Lane Keeping & Change Assist, Front & Rear cross traffic alert & auto braking, Blind spot detection & door opening warning, and more ALL AS STANDARD.

[@MrDAVIDATKIN]

I own the pre facelift P2 and I like the look of the BYD seal, great value for money. I was considering it as replacement when eventually the time comes. However no OPD rules it out straight away, the OPD in the Polestar is just sublime and I couldn't go back to a car where I have to use the brake again especially around town. Very surprised all new EVs don't at least have the option.

[@PoletstarLuke]

💯 agree OPD for life

[@JustinAmundrud]

My 2024 Polestar 2 is my favorite car I’ve ever driven. Beautiful car.

[@guanxi99]

Mine too :-)

[@susand9296]

I concur..

[@TheAegisClaw]

Really? I test drove one last weekend back to back with the new Model 3 and was not impressed. Currently own a Kia EV6. The Polestar felt heavy and the left leg and foot room was unforgivably bad.

[@PoletstarLuke]

Same here. Totally in love with it. I’ll keep it for 10 years

[@stefanbeigel7646]

It's not bad but still you can see it's a petrol car base. As a driver I feel cramped, because of the large middle console. Also in the back there isn't much head space. Same goes for the i4. As you said its your favorite car.

[@urbanstrencan]

For me it is just one choice it's Polestar 2 on the looks alone. Love almost like muscle car look and boxines. Polestar really knows design you can see that the designer is its boss :)

[@grandtourerpt]

In the flesh it looks way too big, almost cross-over like.

[@GarryM66]

Still polestar 2 for me I’m afraid and hands down better looking and more practical for my needs.

[@bryanduncan6178]

Isn't the ID.7 from the size class above? The BYD Han would be a more suitable competitor, although not sure if it will come to the UK?!

[@seansw3043]

It is in the UK, and available for Sale and Lease.

[@Radaos]

@@seansw3043 The Han is not listed on the BYD UK website.

[@UgglemannenFTW]

The HAN is a nice car but sadly it only got single phase. I think when the facelift arrives it will enter UK market.

[@gregkramer5588]

I agree strongly vs the Polestar which is pretty small inside to me.

[@GT86crazy]

Please correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t the ID 7 basically the VW version of the Skoda Enyaq?

[@Audios81]

Bought a Seal Performance over an i4. It’s fast, quiet, built well, comfortable, and extremely fun to drive (came from a G20 3 Series). Never considered an EV except that our tax laws here in Straya are extremely beneficial to EV car owners if you lease them. Couldn’t pass it up.

[@oliverstemp9132]

The ID7 isn’t the most expensive anymore, VW have seen the error of their ways and added equipment and brought the price down.

[@sorinelpustiu5674]

it was 68,000euros in my country.While the Tesla Model Y performance with 600hp is 55,000euros.... yeah,dead on arrival

[@UgglemannenFTW]

Compared to the 3 it still is.

[@BBingo-v5i]

​​​​​​​@@sorinelpustiu5674 The ID.7 starts at only 52.5k in Germany at the moment... ID.7 wins here.

[@mjcapinto]

VW group is in panic mode, they cannot compete with Chinese and American native EV makers. The debt legacy, workforce skills changes and manufacturing lines reshuffles, which costs a lot of money, especially when you have debts up to the ceiling. VW is a car company that uses software, the others are software companies that make cars, can you guess who will struggle to survive?

[@oliverstemp9132]

@@sorinelpustiu5674 that’s fine because that doesn’t apply in the UK.

[@alanrutland4424]

With all the extras on the VW and Polestar, I am unsure whether your given prices were inclusive or exclusive of them. If exclusive then the BYD is miles ahead with regarding price. Also, as said, why do VW not add a heat pump as standard.

[@thefathippy]

Good comparo and great chemistry between you all. Thanks. I saw my second Seal on the road today. On looks alone, BYD are on a winner, and it sounds like they match/beat the competition elsewhere. Damn, they're tasty looking cars. OTOH, the VW reminds me of a Camry. Disappointingly blah blah bland. 😂

[@teamnotleafy6887]

Surprised no mention of the seat massage in the iD7, not that it would swing it for me.

[@yoyyaesta4808]

My choice is 1st BYD Seal, 2nd Polestar, 3rd VW ID.7 Unless you add the Model 3 in that case is 1st Model 3, 2nd BYD Seal, and so on.

[@bmc8195]

Having driven both, I'd definitely put the Seal ahead of the 3.

[@TB-up4xi]

@@bmc8195 I haven't driven the id.7 but the Model 3 is still the value for money winner seal is close but still suffers from the UI being a generation or 2 behind the Model 3, then again I guess if you don't have a great UI you don't know what you're missing out on -The Polestar comes a loooooooooong way down the list for me, slower, heavier, less effcient, less usable space, poor cabin ergonomics, legacy transmission hump, worse UI/UX design and around 30% more expensive like for like in Australia than a 3 or Seal.

[@bmc8195]

@@TB-up4xi I can see your point, and I know some people like the Model 3's UI. I'm glad they do, but I hate it. I find that it's hard to read, and that it isn't intuitive. I also hate the lack of a driver's display. And the lack of Android Auto or CarPlay is frustrating to me. Again, I know others think differently, but that's my view. On top of that, I vastly preferred the interior of the Seal to that of the 3 - to me it looked and felt like it was better-designed and higher-quality.

[@ciybersal3499]

Seal for me

[@lynyarwood7977]

Does the BYD have good service support as its as you said new to the market in the UK only heard of ing the last couple of years. Do the sales out lets have service centres attache and how many are there and what are their locations? May be there is a whole video there.

[@VxO4fame]

This is a really good point. Here in Germany they bought themselfs a spot into existing car dealer networks in. Mostly at BMW and Mercedes dealers. But not many. So the closest for me would be 40 miles away. And i dont get the feeling that the sales persons are that much interested in sellong you a BYD instead of a BMW or Mercedes. I tried to contact them a a few times till i had a phone call and they said they dont have any BYD Seal in the showroom and they would contact me if they have one... This was 4 months ago. Now i couldnt care less since i bought a Tesla instead. It looks like BYD shoot themself in their knee with this german dealer network, which is more interested in selling their own car. And my boss had a similiar story. He has a subscription programm where he can select a car he wants to drive for a year So he decided to try out the Beo elaris. The service network was even worse. closest dealer was 40 miles away as well and there was just one single person who could work on this car. This person was ill 2 weeks and then he had to wait 2 months till the needed parts were delievered from china. In the end he got so annoyed that he chose a fossil fuel car from germany again after 4months of driving in a rental around

[@minama5147]

Totally agree with ladies. Because seal is just beautiful look and good quality with BETTER PRICE

[@darmou]

It get's my Seal of approval urh urh urh lol

[@VolkerOtt]

Having a weekend with the Polestar and the BYD I fully agree not only with your final decision but also with the individual results. There are good reasons for all three cars but the package with the price of the BYD is reasonable not to beat. Thanks for your review -- I like your practice and rather technical approach with the drawing in the end. Keep on !

[@cb250nighthawk3]

In my country, the BYD Seal sells for about £38K. And I still find it pretty expensive. 😮

[@karlInSanDiego]

Appreciate the mention of ID7's prominent placement of efficiency on HUD. 2.8 miles/kWh isn't great. If you're getting 2.8 in that car, and I'm averaging 4.0 (lifetime) with our BMW i4, I'm seeing a massive disparity. Put another way, if an ICE VW sedan got 28 mph, and a BMW got 40 mpg, you'd be really surprised and would rave about it. I feel like most people are lazy about exchanging fake WLTP range specs (Tesla) or large batteries for actual real efficiency.

[@cliveharrington1553]

And I'm getting 4.9 lifetime in my 3 Lr and I'm guessing none of these cars are going to get even half the sales of the new updated 3 , I wouldn't mind the BMW though which is the only other drivers car ....

[@morganangel340]

@@cliveharrington1553 too bad Tesla look like liquid 💩

[@devonbikefilms]

Getting an average of 4.1 with my Kia eNiro over two years now. Not impressed when latest generation can’t compete with a first gen car on efficiency…….

[@cliveharrington1553]

@@devonbikefilms and that seems not bad compared to a lot of cars now ...

[@Sturge0519]

I have an ID7 and currently achieving 4.5 m/kWh without really trying so will be interesting to see how it goes when the weather finally gets better.

[@LukasXu153]

Shadow green!

[@angela1984a]

Made by the Chinese Military Dictatorship no less. Did they condemn the RuSSian Dictator's Genocide in Ukraine? No? Ok...

[@GT86crazy]

Only wish the weather wasn't so... grey

[@SWR112]

Thing is that Polestar 2 will be worth what in a year £32k. I took out the previous gen for a extended test drive myself last year sticker price £53k with options. Same car six months later 6000 miles - £32k. 😮 I know there was a better generation Car out but even still I can’t decide if that’s a big drop and a lot of Car for £32k or both. It is a bit big for my liking but what a excellent comfy Car that hide it weight very well. What next for the motor industry the rediscovery of buttons described by some designers expressing it like like it’s something new.

[@SDK2006b]

Not sure you have used pricing correct. My 3 year old launch edition Polestar 2 (DM LR) was returned in December and is up for sale for £28k, after 36 months, 30k miles. Looking on AT this seems to be the going price. The car was £49k new, which included the £3k Government grant.

[@stegeorgy60]

LRDM with Pilot , 3500 miles March 22. Cost me £50k new and now values at £25k trade. Volvo dealers are not even interested in taking in p/x. Lookers Volvo offered £18.5k! Love the car but depreciation at that rate will stop me buying electric next time.

[@SDK2006b]

@@stegeorgy60 - Car depreciation has always been around 50% after 3 years, with the exception of the crazy period after COVID when new cars were 1+ year wait, hence used were often selling for more than new. Looking on AT 2 year old DM LR's with less than 10k miles are selling for £33 to £36k

[@stegeorgy60]

Yes car depreciation may have always been around 50% at 3 years this is expected trade in. Mine is less than 2 years with low mileage. The numbers you quote are not trade in values , they are dealer 2nd hand retail values. All electric vehicles are suffering much higher depreciation comparative to ICE as there is little demand in the 2nd hand market. Dealers do not want to stock electric vehicles that sit around unsold for months and take successive write downs.

[@davidkramrisch]

Love our PS2 LRSM 82kw. Well built. Handles superbly. Does an average 3-3.3 kw/mile so not the best but most of our trips are inside the overall range. Google interface is brilliant. Did not like the Tesla or the VW. Would consider a BYD Seal. Let’s see how they perform and don’t fall apart in next 5 years. I expect the Chinese will have got the quality sorted….

[@GT86crazy]

I just bought a BYD Seal, will let you know in 5 years I guess!! lol

[@EcoHouseThailand]

I have owned a BYD AWL Performance for 4 months now and love the car and it only cost £35,000 here in Thailand.

[@Yanquetino]

Given the import restrictions on this side of the pond, I think a better alternative is my spanking new Ioniq 5 Limited AWD. And I bet Nicola would prefer her Genesis GV60. Sorry!

[@bmc8195]

It's such a shame you can't get all the good Chinese EVs.

[@joebloggs6131]

There are more coming out in 2024 that'll leave hyundai in the dust... sorry mate I see you love your car, but BYD is gonna trounce it

[@elektrischverhaal5166]

Do wonder what that Polestar is doing there in the lineup? Don't really see any valid reason? Why not an Ioniq6 BMW I4 or a Kia EV6? I get the design point of view, but the interior space in the Polestar is really two sizes smaller. Complicated comparison .

[@thomasschlitzer7541]

maybe BYD got rules ;)

[@Kurre.]

The ioniq 6 should have been in this test but the polestar can stay. The EV is a suv/estate hybrid and the i4 is a lot more expensive

[@BBingo-v5i]

The Volkswagen ID.7 is like the perfect mix of great EV values. If you consider that a bigger 86kWh net battery is upcoming, which also increases the charging power to 200kW, then you have the best mid-size sedan on the market, better specs than a BMW i5. And it will also be available as a station wagon/estate car.

[@Astke]

these reviewers of this channel forget that people are not always looking for the best styling or quirks.

[@franky3830]

Yes and it is going to be more expensive.

[@lachlanB323]

The new Model 3 is just better. Better quality interior, 10x better infotainment system, has every option speced out by default, much more range, much more efficient making it way cheaper to run, has access to the full supercharger network... while the VW has access to some they pay a premium, your car won't get software updates either as proven with the other electric VW cars. It is pricier then the model 3 by a LOT with the only advantage being size. I would wait for the refreshed Model Y personally if size was a concern or just get the Model Y now if you're in desperate need of a car right now.

[@Bud_Terence]

@@lachlanB323 There are a lot of ppl who don't want a Tesla. So there is room enough for all the other manufacturers aswell, even if that is incomprehensible for a Teslafan. That is how the world works, diversity. 😉

[@GT86crazy]

@@Bud_Terence count me in! What if I wanted a car that can do Apple CarPlay or android auto? What if I wanted a gear lever and indicator stalks? What if I wanted a HUD or didn’t want neck issues having to look to one side for my speed? What if I wanted a comfy ride? What if I didn’t want to give my money to Elon?

[@dudleydog1612]

Great review guys. Attended an electric car show here in Dublin last week. Without a doubt, the BYD drew the most attention.

[@californiaprince]

My choices are Polestar 2 1st then ID7 2nd then none. Polestar 2 has classy superior design, premium interior, sporty powerful ride and more mileage.

[@angela1984a]

Who owns P-star?

[@magnarharsaker7513]

@@angela1984a geely, a company of the people's republic of China

[@benjaminsmith2287]

It's old and not really roomy but there's something about it than seems of a higher quality than the other 2. The VW's quality looks good but more like an EV version of a Passat. Not bad though. The BYD is just too busy and seems more downscale. But I've never seen one nor will I see one anytime soon so I can't say for sure.

[@benjaminsmith2287]

@@angela1984a Why does it matter? It's a type of Volvo.

[@angela1984a]

@@magnarharsaker7513 You mean the Military Dictatorship that is China - that crushed the Democracy in Hong Kong? Does Geely have an internal Chinese Communist Party (CCP) committee with with a CCP Committee Secretary?

[@Paul-hu3zr]

I do love the channel ladies, I really do, but there are a few things that can sound like a stuck record. I've had a VW ID4 now for just over a year and done 14,000 miles in it and it's great. Smooth, quiet, great sensible acceleration, good range 240 miles now, 290 summer. Why do journalists go on about the window switches every time? Number of times I've opened the rear windows by mistake is once. Yes I know some may love One pedal driving, but relying on it alone = rusty brakes and an accident when you borrow your better half's car for the day. Also bringing the car to 3 or 4 mph is great in traffic. Apple car play / Android auto, I was not impressed with the later, so not interested, wired or wireless, Haptic buttons are fine, a solution to a problem that didn't exist agreed. Great to see the ID7 has illuminated the heat and volume sliders, not doing that was just dumb. Keep up the good work

[@TubbyMTB]

In over 35 years of driving I can’t think of anytime I’ve opened the rear window from the front. It’s not just this video, it’s all reviews of id cars. It’s a non issue. The id7 is a fantastic car, head and shoulders above the other two in this video

[@Cloud__ffvii]

I’ve ordered the BYD Seal Excellence this week, arrives in 8 weeks and is £440 / month fully insured, with maintenance, tax etc. covered. Absolute bargain for a car that does 0-60 in 3.6 and a huge amount of tech. Better looking than the T3 but doesn’t have a Tesla logo

[@James-BB70]

£440 /month sounds like a great price, wonder what your annual mileage is? I've ordered a Dolphin, no deposit, fully maintained with insurance, etc for £428/ month but I will do at least 15k miles and set my mileage on the lease at a worry-free 20k miles/year

[@K300-e8t]

Press and hold the 'rear' button on the ID windows for a couple of seconds... you can open and close all windows with 1 button. Have lived with ID.3 and Cupra and don't understand why people find the window switches a problem... work fine for me.

[@marcopereira5576]

In the day I start to thing buying a electric car I was thinking to buy Polestar however I’m happy because I bought a crazy computer with wheels the Tesla M3 Performance and I just love it, Between these ones I would buy the BYD is just the best Vw is inefficient and boring, Polestar is just a electric car nothing special the BYD is experience, efficient, fast and have a nice look This is my opinion off corse 🤔

[@vasil7410]

The Polestar 2 is very expensive in Australia, compared to the Model 3 and Seal. And it feels much more cramped internally than the other cars. The presenter is not a big person so can you imagine a six foot man driving this car?

[@noodlefoo]

Yes, in Australia the price of Seal is unbeatable.

[@farodopi5170]

yeah Polestar price vary a lot from a region to another and even within EU. In some countries it is very cheap like Belgium for example. It really depends on the market

[@happyhero2881]

The Polestar 2s are mainly used by Splend as a rideshare (Uber, DiDi etc) vehicles

[@gundelfish]

The HUD has AR, the ID7 is tested to be very efficient, but mentioned here on a very specific personal experience that it isn't very - strange.

[@James-BB70]

Very entertaining ladies! Also, agree the BYD is my favourite too for spec, price and appearance, only thing that would let it down for me is that it is a saloon and not a hatch.

[@CoxJul]

There's an issue with one-pedal-driving you should consider; Muscle memory... bear with me. Every time you have to exert yourself to move your right foot a few inches to press the brake pedal you are training your muscle memory to make that movement when you want to stop. When you then need to do this in an emergency your reaction time will be fast and intuitive; someone who's driven the last 5,000 miles hardly ever pressing the brake pedal due to one-pedal will be reacting a lot slower and instead relying on auto-braking systems* etc. to stop in time.(* what could possibly go wrong!)

[@TB-up4xi]

What a load of BS this is....I have driven 12 months and 24,000 km using 1 pedal driving - my right foot as just as quick as it ever was going for the brake in an emergency. I can hop into a manual car after 5 years of not driving one and the emergency dual clutch/brake stop is the same as when I left it 5 years before, I can still hop onto a bike at 60+ and ride no handed.

[@CoxJul]

@@TB-up4xi Like me you clearly have many years driving experience of a number of vehicles and transmissions etc. Your muscle memory is well embedded - like mine. But come on - admit it, when you've driven many miles in a clutch vehicle and went back to an auto, how many times did you go for the non-existent clutch in an emergency stop? Now consider a new, inexperienced driver without those years of experience who's only driven mostly one-pedal and tell me it's still BS? Time will tell on this one...

[@EliotHochberg]

With these new car companies, even the pole Starr, I think it would be worth doing a review of presale, post sale, and maintenance to see how well they do. Some folks have said that BYD does well in Australia as far as maintenance and customer service, they apparently do have locations in that country. But I’m not just talking about that, as an example, here in the states, if you have a problem with the Tesla, the likelihood is you’re spending $10,000 or more to repair it. Now we understand that electric cars are far less likely to break down than gas cars, which is a great benefit. But if you watch a channel like Rich rebuilds or Louis Rossman, you’ll know that very small problems in a Tesla can cause very large replacement costs for repair. A single cable can end up requiring replacement of the entire battery pack as an example. And heaven forbid you get into an accident. Now a lot of modern cars of every drive train are expensive to repair because of the lack of standardize headlights and parts. And the integration of batteries into the frame can also make it more difficult to repair such cars. But it’s one thing to have that problem with Tesla, is it the same, better, or worse with a company that’s based in China? I don’t want to put it all on China, because as I say, Tesla is not doing very well in this respect. But I think that part of long-term ownership is an important aspect of the actual cost of all his cars. I drive a 2016 Fiat 500 E, I was in a fender bender accident, and the repair was listed at US$14,000. The value of the car was only $16,000, so it was considered totaled. I had to keep the car with salvage title even though it’s working perfectly well. the Fiat dealership tested the battery and confirmed that there’s nothing wrong with it. It is just superficial damage. That is not because it’s an electric car, the gas would’ve had the same problem, and in fact I suspect that the battery helped keep the car intact because of the additional weight. but I did have an unrelated issue with the charge cable of that car, and not even the Fiat dealership was able to confidently tell me what was wrong with it. They did end up replacing that cable which seems to have the issue, that cost $1400 plus several weeks being without the car during which I had to rent a car which cost me about $800. And so,That kind of thing is important to know as well. If you have a problem, how much is it going to cost you to take care of it? And how likely are you to have a knowledgeable technician who can diagnose the problem confidently, and then tell you what is needed?

[@hersawex]

Got my BYD Dolphin Nov last year and got a SRS Airbag error on the 1st day when I got my car. Brought it back to SC and had to replace the part as the SC manager told me the Airbag voltage was not stable. The SC ordered the part on Nov 2023, and due to some regulation (not sure what it was), it took roughly 3 months for the part to be delivered. Replace the part on last month, Jan 2024. I still got to use my car while waiting for the part. Imagine, what if the car won't work without the part replacement? That's would be a big bummer for the end user. Someone who own BYD from Malaysia.

[@EliotHochberg]

@@hersawex thanks for that anecdote, definitely good information to have

[@GT86crazy]

Totally agree, the ownership experience is going to be so important. Hard to do in a review when they only have the car for a few days. Looking forwards to some long term reviews.

[@EliotHochberg]

Absolutely fair I admit I have specific concerns about any Chinese vehicle company, but really, we should have such concerns about any company that sells a connected car that can also potentially drive itself on purpose or by accident, into a wall. How long before one of these cars gets hacked by a malicious person (in government or independent) directly into a wall or the water? We've already had people blindly following their GPS into a lake, doesn't seem too much of a leap for a system that knows where it is and tries to follow GPS directions to do the same.@@GT86crazy

[@DariaBlackwell]

We test-drove the Polestar 2 in Dublin and loved it with one exception. The centre console was positioned in such a way that our elbows constantly bumped into it. My husband in particular could not avoid it while driving and it was instantly annoying. With a longer distance drive, it would be very uncomfortable after a while. We are going to test drive the BYD Seal later this month. We loved the look of it at the electric vehicle car show. The VW ID7 seemed very cheaply finished in comparison to the other two. It felt plasticy. It did have a vast boot.

[@BrandonMurphy728]

The BYD seal is a stunning beauty and seems quite comfortable to drive with.

[@zaronatic]

You forget the part where atleast 2 of these cars are double the price of a tesla model 3 as far as I know

[@Audios81]

Are you on drugs!? A Model 3 for £25K? OMG this made my week. What utter morons on KZbin.

[@jana.2275]

Polestar 👍👍👍

[@RazorMouth]

I wish the seal had a hatchback version. Hate saloons, not practical enough for me.

[@MajorSnifEr]

hi for the id7 which is the color please ?

[@PaulMeier-cu3ds]

The two reasons I would like the BYD Seal are 4WD and speed. I agree the Polestar has aged really well and from a UI/UX point of view is the best sorted out here. VW does now have wonderful driving engineering, but its UI/UX has still not caught up from its awful early decisions on software. My last two cars were Audi RS3s with the most recent a 2017, and Audi VW are simply not making anything electric which does the same job so I no longer look to them for something I want to drive. The brand which is doing it seems to be Smart with either the #1 or #3 Brabus. That of course would be a bet on Geely/Mercedes rather than BYD, and Polestar is of course another Geely bet. Geely look to be the brand most likely to crack European tastes.

[@benjaminsmith2287]

Polestar is a Volvo. It's owned by Geely but it is really a sedan version of the Volvo XC40. A Geely brand is Geely Auto or Geometry. Polestar is like Lamborghini to VW Group. So, it's not realy a Geely brand more than a Geely Group acquired well-established European brand offshoot that people are getting with Polestar.

[@PaulMeier-cu3ds]

​@@benjaminsmith2287 Thank you. Another way of putting it is that Geely does not do brands directly, or at least very often, but allows a brand such as Polestar to put skin on its platforms. I presume Geely does not mind too much whether you buy a Polestar, Smart, Volvo, or one of its own brands; you are still buying Geely.

[@benjaminsmith2287]

@@PaulMeier-cu3ds Wrong. It is not a skin. It is a brand spec'd vehicle that is the same as what VW Group does with its brands but perhaps with less involvement even than VW. Volvo made the SPA2 platform. Volvo is writing their own software. Volvo is dictating their own designs and materials and sustainability and even making their own motors for future cars. Volvo is deciding to go with Northvolt batteries. These aren't Geely cars, they're Volvos with some Geely assistance in funding and with Geely able to use some Volvo engineering as well as Lotus in some other brands. Sure, Geely may own some of these rights but it's wrong to say Geely is creating the cars and brands are slapping skins on them. they're still Swedish spec'd cars that may or may not use some Group based common tech or materials. And Smart is a Mercedes brand. Geely provides the SPA platform and may even construct the car but the feel and drive properties as well as the design is Mercedes spec'd.

[@PaulMeier-cu3ds]

​@@benjaminsmith2287 Thank you again. Polestar is still loss making and likely to become Geely owned because Volvo can not afford to fund further losses. I agree the intellectual effort has come Volvo and ex Volvo people, but they are now Geely owned or part owned. Geely has done something similar with Lotus and has approximately half of Smart. Along with its in house Zeekr, Geely can let these bets run to see which work best. I agree “skin” was the wrong choice of word.

[@benjaminsmith2287]

@@PaulMeier-cu3ds Volvo and Polestar are both Geely owned. I don't think much will change, just transferring of the stake percentages. The thing is, I don't see any difference in Volvo's products pre and post Geely ownership and if anything, I see more support of Volvo Sweden and in turn Polestar Sweden under Geely than under Ford. What I'm not crazy about is all of the competing brands Geely is coming up with. Thanks.

[@hughmarcus1]

I hired a Polestar 2 a while back. I loved it engineering & yes the build quality is good I particularly loved the anti creep feature, which is fabulous in traffic. I did find the inbuilt sat nav had a little bit of lag & a couple of times I arrived at junctions before the screen had caught up & had to pause momentarily. Once I’d bought a USB C cable & ran Google Maps off my iPhone there was no lag. However, Nichola’s issue with the entry & hitting your head is interesting. The hire car didn’t have a pano roof & as I’m over 6ft I found the roof too low & the cabin felt a bit claustrophobic, with the black headlining etc. a lighter interior might have helped, but I ended up thinking I couldn’t buy one because of the low roof.

[@bmc8195]

Yes. I find that it feels like I'm driving a letterbox. I find the cabin really claustrophobic.

[@hughmarcus1]

@@bmc8195It’s such a pity as otherwise it’s an excellent car. There’ll be some bargains around when Hertz release their current fleet.

[@bmc8195]

@@hughmarcus1 Yes, I agree. I think the XC40 might be a better use of the platform - the extra height just makes it feel more airy. But Hertz isn't going to be selling them, unfortunately.

[@adrianhjordan1981]

I have a Polestar 2 on order, but I had to order before the BYD was available thanks to my current car contract ending. But if I was ordering today, I would certainly be giving the BYD a test drive and, based on reviews, it would be a strong contender. The only downside for me would be the small boot opening as I sometimes need to carry larger items.

[@spsmith45]

I might go with the VW for its tailgate, ride comfort, space and refinement. Sober, but good. Price not so good, but need to check PCP. Another factor - where are they built.? Carbon cost of shipping a vehicle from China to UK.

[@dougcomerford5551]

Byd seal owner in oz ....... fantastic car .... its cheap at $58k Australian. Just did a range test ..... 645klm to 7 % .

[@michaeldarling6791]

When did 0-60 in 6.7 seconds become lumbering? Most petrol cars in the segment of the ID7 will do 0-60 in 8.5 seconds +, and that's perfect. It used to be only super cars that could/needed 0-60 times less than 6 sec. When do you actually use that low 0-60 anyway?

[@Stewiedude1]

You don't have to blast it all the time but it does make driving more pleasant. Safer overtakes and the ability to join carriageways with short slip roads. It's the sense of power that adds another element of luxury if at half throttle you can accelerate as well as another vehicle where you have to put your foot through the floor

[@mf8176]

Every time I want to get ahead of a car on a roundabout or overtake a slowpoke on the few passing lanes on Hwy2 in New Zealand, mate!

[@talktorobi]

The fact that you have to put Tesla in your title to get views says it all.

[@u.wunschel7311]

VW❤

[@oliverstemp9132]

I’d pick the VW, I find the Polestar far too cramped and BYD haven’t been around long enough to fully trust. I think the ID7 looks quite nice and I love the space and comfort, the screens work well this time.

[@isurumw6119]

I think BYD has the most experience making electric vehicles compared to others.

[@oliverstemp9132]

@@isurumw6119 yes, but they haven’t been selling cars in the UK for long enough yet.

[@Astke]

have you seen the charge curve of that BYD? it is laughably bad. They are not better at making EVs really

[@Bud_Terence]

@@isurumw6119 The other way around. Look at how poorly BYD's thermal management works. Just watch some videos of Bjorn, he had coldgate and rapidgate in his 1000 km challenge with BYD's. Thats embarresing for a Cellmanufacturer. Tesla charges way faster with the BYD battery than BYD itsself.

[@madmikejohn]

You three put so much fun into car reviews - always a pleasure to watch, thank you.

[@SethPinnock]

I can't agree that the VW is worse looking than the BYD. The BYD's looks will age like bad wine, while the VW's look will be classic, sheek as it ages. and yes the Pleatar is the George Clooney of the group

[@actualfacts1055]

Which one goes best with a Latte ?

[@ClausLehm-nv4qv]

Again one of those stupid biased tests with wrong information. Fx which car is charging the fastest? Naturally Polestar with its 205kw peak charging speed. Wrong! Both the ID.7 and Polestar takes 28 min. under good conditions. The ID.7 has a flatter charging curve and therefore eq ually as fast as the Polestar. Another thing is efficiency, the ID.7 is mentioned as bad, but only WLTP on the other cars. What efficiency did they have under same conditions?

[@fathert]

*biased

[@--Wingman--]

You should have taken the Polestar 4

[@teem5642]

Love these guys. Same complaints and praises I have for the same cars is the same way they feel 😂I trust their reviews now

[@petermalkin2701]

Just test drove a BYD Seal. Its fantastic-I also love the colour. The only issue is its a bit low slung for me and I carck my head getting in!

[@namnification]

Way are you not try out News tesla 3 and mb EQE? In your video Id7 lite in spece are not so big comper to tesla 3?

[@Dellerss]

The BYD looks a lot better, but it's just impractical. The boot is too small, and no ski hatch makes it a terrible choice where I live. Those two negatives are true for most cars, sadly, so VW, Skoda and Cupra are pretty much the only real alternatives I have.

[@DavidJohnson-gh3si]

How about resale values?

[@yingmustang67]

Polestar 2 if money is not an argument. BYD is for my winning combination if it were a hatchback. I'm still happy with my Kia e Niro 64 KWh. ❤

[@theark.123]

What an engaging and fun review without missing anything ! Superb !

[@sawtoothspike]

Do you still need to turn on Regen everytime you drive the ID7? I remember when the sales person told me this when i was looking at the id3 and i nearly walked out.

[@nickscott447]

Awesome review! I never LOL at reviews but you all are quite funny! I like the PS2 the best though.

[@granfersteve3815]

Alternatives ladies but as always for longer journeys t's still all about the Supercharger network. Do any of them plan your journey with recommended charge points?

[@joebloggs6131]

Elon Musk opened up 50% of Tesla's Superchargers here in Australia to vehicles other than Tesla's in a bid to have more EV's on the road... that's gotta make more of a dent in the supercharger network

[@granfersteve3815]

It may well do, but he hasn't made that many available as yet in the UK to my knowledge@@joebloggs6131

[@Sturge0519]

ID 7 plan charging stops and tells you how many chargers are available, not sure if it knows how many superchargers are available on the one open to all though.

[@CharlesLeoYNWA]

perhaps different strokes for different folks, and cars can be enjoyed by people with varying taste, no one really needs to be cancelled. I like the Seal but I think the Tesla is a lovely car too.

[@ludi7083]

Great cars and even much greater entertainment, Ladies. Thank you so much! ❤

[@jetvdna5449]

BYD 💯 🎉🎉🎉

[@simondehaas8784]

Interesting comments on the ID7 efficiency. I bet it's the heating up because of the size of it. Battery Life Chris has done some tests on the autobahn at 130 and found it matched the Model Y and Ioniq 6, pretty impressive.

[@BBingo-v5i]

The ID.7 really has great efficiency, range and specs.

[@screechmr2]

this isn't the only review where the id7 has really poor efficiency, seems like VW up to their usual lying tricks. 2.8 is very poor.

[@simondehaas8784]

@@screechmr2 no, other reviews that are more systematic have shown very good results. Bjorn is testing one soon so that'll give some more data points.

[@Popdog76]

⁠some have had mixed results not good results - even Chris was disappointed in his tests

[@simondehaas8784]

@@Popdog76 initially yes but the comparison tests were very impressive really. They are the most reliable as common conditions across cars

[@outrospection4all]

3 lovely knowledgeable and lighthearted British ladies - unbeatable

[@michaelhastings7441]

I love the look of the VW and the PoleStar 2 not so keen on the BYD .

[@benjaminsmith2287]

It's a bit busy inside and out.

[@michaelhastings7441]

@@benjaminsmith2287 I feel the VW looks classy and more like a normal car as does the PoleStar i wouldn't choose the BYD .

[@TheTrinitygroup]

V2L and V2G now a priority as energy companies are offering free electricity for compatible vehicles so BYD wins for me on that alone

[@wassap786]

I like the ID7, i'd have it over the P2 and BYD. Its bigger for starters, i would put in the class above. Polestar 2 is lovely car and the tech is tried and tested, but its too cramped for family duties. BYD is simply too new, and to throw that much money on a brand that doesnt have the dealer presence/support isnt good value for money imo. I like the direction VAG are heading now, their demise is greatly exagerated, the products are improving and its shows VAG group are listening and addressing criticisms.

[@Chris_the_Muso]

Which car should I choose? Anyrhing but an electric one...

[@ian9outof10]

You're on the wrong channel then chucklehead

[@wentjen]

Just booked a BYD Seal Performance

[@brunocolle]

Great video girls! I love watching electrifying!

[@bernardfong1019]

Brother in law bought a Seal 3.8s. I am about to give my Tesla 3 Dual Motor to my daughter to justify my buying either a Seal or MG4 XPower. Another brother in law already owns a Tesla S P100D.

[@marlasota]

Alternative comes from alternation - you can have either this or that. So 3 "alternatives" are NOT possible. You can have 3 choices, 3 options but NOT alternatives.

[@nandonandouze169]

BYD has Android Auto wireless since long time. Carplay is wireless since a few months now thanks to OTA.

[@KineticEV]

All great cars if you don't want a Tesla Model 3 but to be honest there are a couple things these cars have over Tesla such as Android Auto and Apple Car Play but for a small price you can get an aftermarket device for the Tesla. I believe the Tesla might have more overall storage space and will charge at 250kw vs. 205kw for the Polstar 2. I think the Polstar 2 beats the Tesla on range but the Tesla is more efficient. Bot the BYD and the Polstar 2 are a great contender to the Model 3. All of them have an ok back seat area but the Tesla has that screen with infotainment built in that the others lack. The new screen and infotainment on the VW is light years ahead of the ID4 so I'm glad to see that in this car. Another thing to note are the extra fees for options you may already get as standard in the Model 3. In the end I still think that overall you get more bang for the your buck with a Model 3. It's going to be cheaper in most cases, more efficient, have more overall storage as well. But ultimately you really can't go wrong with either depending on your wants and needs.

[@sana-nn7lc]

Well said, this is the truth. Unfortunately most people never realise

[@carlbushnell509]

BYD seems like a great car. But for me No 1 Pedal Driving is an absolute deal killer. Cannot understand why VW does not have 1 Pedal after all these years. 1 Pedal is one of the best perks of an EV. It also saves you on brake wear.

[@andrewnelson7219]

I would agree BYD 👍🏻

[@adechambers3026]

BYD as lovely as it may be, is clearly made for the Tesla home market of the USA! As it is missing one very important thing, especially given its shape. It isn't a hatchback, so it's totally impractical. So Polestar all the way, even without the additional options.

[@jamesdawson3123]

My wife and i are loving our Seal Performance, the only problem is who gets to drive it😅

[@BMWHP2]

Thanks for the review. Well done. Sadly there is already an endless line-up of boring 4 door saloons, 4-door stationwagens, and 4-door "SUV-like" EV's. But apparently, that is what the masses want, the same boring 4-door EV that everyone in the street has. Where are the 2-door cabrio's, the 2-door coupé's, 2-door "hot hatches"? The more sporty EV's, . . . that are not designed to take your grandmother and 3 kids every day, and the ski's and the surfboard, the 4 dogs . . . . .? (something that never happens, but everyone claims to need every day, while riding solo 20km per day on average)

[@bmc8195]

Nicki talks about the ID.7's stupid window switches at 8:50. And yes, you're completely right. They are stupid and impractical and a faff and annoying. It creates all the problems you describe, especially the fact that you have to either risk opening the wrong window, or look down to see whether the "rear" button is lit up. But there's more. That "rear" button is software-driven, not a hard switch like conventional window switches. I rented an ID.3 that has the same stupid window arrangement. And the software driving the "rear" button crashed during my rental. It was jammed in "rear" mode and I could not change it. I even took it to a VW dealer and they couldn't help. For three days, I could only operate the rear windows. Car park ticket machines, drive-through take-aways, and anything else that involved winding the driver's window down, were a nightmare. And then, inexplicably, it just started working again. I get that VW has maybe saved about $2 per car - maybe even as much as $4 - by getting rid of the rear switches. But that window arrangement alone is a dealbreaker for me. (That and VW having forgotten to sell its ID cars in Australia for the three and a half years since their first European sales, of course.) It's stupid and it's impractical and it's annoying and it's even dangerous. And it's unreliable. --- We don't have the ID.7 here, of course. But I did drive a Seal at (whisper it) Everything Electric in Sydney last week, and I've driven Polestar 2s and Tesla Model 3s. The Seal is a lot cheaper than the Polestar or the 3 here - about A$10,000 / GBP5,000 cheaper than a 3. But even at the same price as, or, as in the UK, more than, a Model 3, it would still be the best of the three cars (Polestar, Tesla and Seal) in my view. It was just a lovely place to be, and a pleasure to drive. Perceived quality was great; equipment was fantastic; and comfort levels were amazing. My only problem with it was that I want an SUV or an estate. So I might have to wait for the Sea Lion or Song L - whichever comes here first.

[@benjaminsmith2287]

Volvo is doing the same thing. But honestly, I don't open the back windows enough in my car to care all that much.

[@general236]

I would rather not have the rear window switch, than not having the HUD, parking sensors and stalks, like in a Model 3.

[@bmc8195]

@@benjaminsmith2287 I live somewhere hot, so I do need to open all four windows quite often. The same thing would put me off a Volvo EX30, although Volvo's decision to combine following VW on window switches with following Tesla on instrumentation really does mean that a car I would otherwise have been interested in is absolutely off my list.

[@bmc8195]

@@general236 Yes, absolutely. No rear window switch is an annoyance. No stalks, no HUD, no parking sensors and no 360-degree camera mean there's no way I'd buy a Model 3. I've driven a lot of the previous Model 3 - the one with indicator stalks and a gear shifter - and even that was infuriating because of the lack of a driver's display and the lack of switches. The new one sounds even worse.

[@general236]

@@bmc8195 I agree, I test drove the Model 3 2 weeks ago. It was all nice, but the missing stalks for roundabouts became a safety hazard, the other stuff are just extreme annoyances, but a car for 50k shouldn't annoy you. The ID. 7 is also more expensive than the Model 3, so it seems I will have to continue burning dinosaurs for the foreseeable future.

[@finn.hermansen]

Great and informativ video Lady's. Thank you so much. Help me .... which electric car should an old man of 58 years with two artificial hips, and thus not as mobile as others choose? I myself will probably look in the direction of an SUV, as it is probably a little easier to get in and out of. Give me some good suggestions, because if anyone can, it must be someone from this amazing KZbin channel. Many greetings from "old man in Denmark".

[@thomasschlitzer7541]

KIA EV6. Good entrance, auto moves the seat back when you open the door and got full one-pedal driving to full stop.

[@finn.hermansen]

@@thomasschlitzer7541 Thank You Thomas 👍👍

[@amperformance7998]

Definitely give the EV6 a try. I have one and it is excellent. It has a little more height than a sedan, but not as tall as a proper SUV. On the other hand, the low roofline and wide sills can make entry and exit a little more difficult. Not a problem for me at a relatively spry 42 years, but may be an issue for you. Another good alternative is the Hyundai Ioniq 5. Many of the qualities of the EV6 in a more upright open body. The Kia EV5 is coming soon (not sure if it is coming to the UK) and features a midsize SUV body. The Hyundai Kona Electric and Kia Niro EV are competent. The Volvo XC40 is very similar to the Polestar2 in an SUV body. The EX30 is also worth a look. There's also the Skoda Enyaq which is built on the same platform as the ID.7. The BYD Atto3 is an okay value EV SUV, if you can handle the divisive interior. Finally, and I hate to suggest it, but you may want to consider the Tesla Model Y.

[@finn.hermansen]

@@amperformance7998 Wauu amperformane799i Thank You very much. This very good information, I which I greatly appreciate. My thoughts have revolved around a Skoda Enyaq and a Tesla Model Y, I sense that my entry and exit of these models will make my everyday life somewhat easier. I kind of feel that it's a shame and way too early that I have to have these problems, but life goes up and down. Thank you very much for taking the time to answer my questions. Best regards Finn

[@Roobubba]

I'm ~192cm tall and I have no issues with the Smart #1 - it's fairly tall and also has the auto-moving seat to aid entry/exit (and remembers your seat/HUD/wing mirror positions if there is more than 1 driver). The interior is lovely, definitely worth a test drive 👍 It was also considerably cheaper than the other options we looked at, but we didn't find that out until we'd made our decision based on test driving everything! Of the others that we looked at but discounted, I found the EV6 to be quite low and awkward to get in and out of, and also lacking headroom once inside. The Niro EV was better for accessibility. The Enyaq was good for getting in and out, although the optional extras you would want end up adding a lot to the cost of this car, and it's quite bland (in my opinion). We really liked the Megane ETech, except that both my wife and I found the seats uncomfortable on a test drive, and it didn't come with a few extras we wanted. The Kona bings and bongs and oh my lordy make it stop... Otherwise, nice enough car, but no way we could live with that 🤣 Good luck with your car hunt!

[@Lewis_Standing]

The P2 needs the transmission tunnel gutting and being on it's own platform.

[@shad0wyenigma]

One thing I’d like to see mentioned is the carbon footprint of actually building the cars. I’m not sure about the others but polestar are incredibly transparent about the carbon footprint of its cars. Although EVs are definitely cleaner than ice cars over the long run, we should think about the emissions from manufacturing & reward the companies that care about it

[@CampGareth]

Mentioned perhaps but unless the break even mileage is extremely high I don't think it would affect my buying decision. If one car breaks even at 20k and another at 25k they'll both reach that easily, but 75k would be worth mentioning.

[@ianthomas8743]

There are only 3 dealers for BYD in the uk not much use for Aftersales

[@Michael4Reall00]

Why you didn’t put the Ioniq 6 in this video it’s charging faster and it have better range than those 3 cars