BMW M135i vs NEW Audi S3 - SHOCK VERDICT?

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In this unsponsored video I perform a head to head test of the latest Bavarian 300+ hp AWD hot hatches, the BMW M135i X-drive and the Audi S3 quattro. Will the verdict be a shock win for the BMW or typical predictable 'fanboy' outcome?
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@andrewmcivor42
@andrewmcivor42 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect answer for anyone who says your videos are biased (I don't, I've always found your comments to be honest & balanced, even if I don't always agree with them) - if they were, the S3 would have won, I'm sure! Personally, I like the "old skool" buttons on the BMW (my sister in law has a 19 plate 2 series Msport coupe, so I've seen something like it & it beats a touch screen, IMHO). That grille, though....what WERE BMW thinking! The Audi looks very similar to my Wife's new Edition 1 35 TFSi A3 (supposed to be a Sport, but she ended up with the Ed 1 due to a defect with the original car - long story!). Same 19" wheels, same interior & very similar seats (with quilted Alcantara centre panels, rather than leather, which I prefer, to be honest). It's s big step up from a Sport, but striking how similar it is to the S3 - almost identical (but with half the hp). Think if I was buying either of these cars, I'd wait for the Mk8 Golf R 🤣.
@gaycha6589
@gaycha6589 3 жыл бұрын
Good comment. Personally I am reserving judgement on the G8R and have ordered a CR Yaris to run alongside my 7.5R, whilst I form a view on the mk8 as it rolls out. Never thought I’d buy a Toyota, buy I just fancy some greasy road fun.
@samcourt6228
@samcourt6228 3 жыл бұрын
The interior in the latest one series is really good. I hate the exterior, but they’ve nailed it inside for me. It’s not flash, but it’s bloody well made unlike that nasty, chintzy interior that Mercedes out I the A Class. The fact that it retains buttons and the idrive wheel is a huge plus point in my opinion. I don’t like the relentless march of touchscreens high I don’t think are practical when driving. The only negative of the BMW interior is the digital dash....it’s horrible. I’m not sold on the latest S3 at all (not that I was on previous versions either). What is it with Audi and their love of bloody chrome.
@andrewmcivor42
@andrewmcivor42 3 жыл бұрын
@@samcourt6228 I agree. The chrome doesn't really bother me - I could live with an S3, apart from the lack of space (hopefully VW will do the Mk8 R as an Estate too)
@Taylor40667
@Taylor40667 3 жыл бұрын
New audi 35 a3 sline to lease was 2500 down , 150 a month in early november was tempted. 2 years 10k a year
@josephpeacock724
@josephpeacock724 3 жыл бұрын
Just a note if you are under 25 you can’t test drive any S cars from any Audi dealership😂 that’s one of the factors why I bought my m135i and it puts a smile on my face everyday
@stujones2966
@stujones2966 3 жыл бұрын
I've owned the M135 now for 4 months and I can't fault it, superb daily drive and build quality excellent. The performance of this car is outstanding and it's not to bad on the fuel either!
@DawahDigital
@DawahDigital 3 жыл бұрын
I’m thinking of getting one. What kind of mpg are you getting?
@stujones2966
@stujones2966 3 жыл бұрын
@@DawahDigital anything from 12-35 MPG depending what mode and how you drive it.
@DawahDigital
@DawahDigital 3 жыл бұрын
@@stujones2966 thanks for answering man! Appreciate it! God bless
@rupertevans6847
@rupertevans6847 Жыл бұрын
@@stujones2966 12mpg! Jeez is your right foot made from lead?!
@stujones2966
@stujones2966 Жыл бұрын
@@rupertevans6847 everything in sports and a diving boot on 👍
@heathoatmeal
@heathoatmeal 3 жыл бұрын
Unbiased car journalism.....a refreshing change, top notch
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 3 жыл бұрын
Thank heathoatmeal, I can not tell you how much that means to me👍
@peterrichards7387
@peterrichards7387 3 жыл бұрын
@heathoatmeal - Unbiased / Top notch!!!! did you actually listen to his comments , I've never heard a more biased BMW fan boy. He was doing down the Audi every second breath.
@PapiAndrey
@PapiAndrey 3 жыл бұрын
@@peterrichards7387 what? The Bmw is simply better quality in this case. It is what it is, the mk8 is lower quality in some ways than the mk7, same goes for the 8Y vs the 8V. They are better in some ways and worse in others, it’s going to come down to what you value more personally.
@ultradbz7820
@ultradbz7820 4 ай бұрын
I have just bought an M135I over the S3. And I’m so glad I did, it just feels like a mature race car, really sharp and quick. Looks sooo much better in person. Driving it daily around town etc, the fuel is really good surprisingly. I didn’t like the back of the S3 and how plain the interior looked. But very close cars, but the BMW is better in my opinion.
@appealinbanana
@appealinbanana 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve just stepped down from an M140i to this new 4 pot M135i. And what I like about it is, it feels like my old Golf GTI. Which I absolutely loved. And The standard grill with mat grey surround and chrome accents looks better than this gloss black version in my opinion.
@Piner5074
@Piner5074 3 жыл бұрын
Oh no!! I really like the BMW despite being a long term buyer of VW for the last 30+ years.... and I REALLY don’t like the current MK8 Golf. That BMW For me is now a serious contender 😱 What next BMWizard?😉😂
@AdrianTechs
@AdrianTechs 3 жыл бұрын
Bayerwizard doesn't have the same ring to it 😂😂
@stevecade857
@stevecade857 3 жыл бұрын
Try a Mini Clubman JCW. Similar underneath to the BMW but more fun to drive. Cheaper as well with a good deal. Don't forget luxury car tax is based on manufactures price and not any OTR deal price.
@dipeshpatel8974
@dipeshpatel8974 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevecade857 cheaper for a reason besides the badge. The interior has a lot if cheap plastics and the build is not a good
@ronaldbear1
@ronaldbear1 3 жыл бұрын
I had 4 golfs spanning 16 years and absolutely loved them. My favourite was the GTD. I recently jumped and got a M135i because the new golf gti/gtd had only minimal changes. Best decision I’ve ever made and I love the m135i
@declan9145
@declan9145 10 ай бұрын
Picked up my m135i yesterday, incredible motor, anyone watching this video you won’t be disappointed! 👍🏻
@ramonmartinez1428
@ramonmartinez1428 3 жыл бұрын
Came in an Audi fan, finished the video wanting a BMW. Interior quality and small things make a difference. BMW has better factory front brakes. I also understand that the Audi isn’t fully loaded. Panoramic moon roof look nice on that BMW.
@naeeel
@naeeel 3 жыл бұрын
same here
@helenbaylis6837
@helenbaylis6837 3 жыл бұрын
Don't do it. The twin clutch gearbox is 10 times better than the torque converter auto. Been there, done that.
@avuazahc1966
@avuazahc1966 3 жыл бұрын
hahaha. . .i gotta love your verdict when saying a winner witha face a mother can love. .. buy heyyyyyyyyyyy big up M135i
@shotta287
@shotta287 3 жыл бұрын
BMW are making some fantastic cars at the moment especially the new 3 series and I’m a VAG fan. I think the previous gen 8V was the high point for the A3, this new one seems to have gone backwards a bit especially with the interior quality. I still reckon the Mk8 Golf R will be the one to beat.
@kenw1295
@kenw1295 3 жыл бұрын
So near to buying a GTI, TCR or R and then they stopped production for the MK8. Now have a M135i and am really impressed, best of both worlds and a brilliant every day driver.
@billx4266
@billx4266 3 жыл бұрын
MK7 you mean
@kenw1295
@kenw1295 3 жыл бұрын
@@billx4266 stopped production of Mk 7.5. New Mk 8 interior not to my liking. M135i build is better and right combination of buttons and tech.
@dominicrusho
@dominicrusho 3 жыл бұрын
128ti vs Golf GTI will be a really interesting battle!
@jameslove888
@jameslove888 3 жыл бұрын
I’m very interested to see how that one shapes up.
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 3 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@Modshmockers
@Modshmockers 3 жыл бұрын
You know the Golf will easily be beat by the Bmw, far better quality in Bmw
@jimmyjt16
@jimmyjt16 3 жыл бұрын
I've got a feeling the BMW will be far superior.
@bibby65
@bibby65 3 жыл бұрын
Forgone conclusion,golf loses.
@jrushen4235
@jrushen4235 3 жыл бұрын
The speed of the gear changes on the Audi's S-Tronic are staggering. I cannot say one is better than the other just different.
@rl6783
@rl6783 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Very in depth comparison. Test drove both myself recently and found the m135i to be very underwhelming.... felt the S3 was less clumsy and a tighter drive.
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👍 Yes that's possibly true, difficult to push the BMW in the conditions and in the time available but it was so much better for quality and specialness that it could have had 4 flat tyres and still won!
@simonkingsley-smith990
@simonkingsley-smith990 3 жыл бұрын
As a long term Audi/VW customer who recently jumped ship to the new M135i (one year old press car with all the toys!) it was great to see your excellent review Andrew. After test driving the new A3 and Series 1, it was the quality of the interior that clinched it for me. I have the alcantara seats which personally I prefer to the leather, as well as the heated steering wheel and head up display which aren't even options on the S3. My only disappointment was the lack of configurability of the virtual display which is better on the Audi, although the iDrive infortainment is great.
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Simon, I was a little miffed the BMW digitial cluster wasn't anything like as configurable, considering this is just software it seems a bit weird, maybe Audi have a patent? Which press car was yours? It's always fascinating to see what they were doing, I don't have an issue with buying one provided it's not been on track extensively. Did you know it was a press car as BMW registered so many Y reg cars it can be harder to spot than the KY Audis?
@uboweeg
@uboweeg 3 жыл бұрын
I have a BMW M135i which I recently replaced my BMW 335XD with, it's as quick albeit not with the low down torque I had the 6-cylinder 335. Never driven a S3 but I'd agree with much of the review of the BMW, weak point for me is the gear box which feels slower than the ZF in the 3-series. The car has a little torque steer from FWD bias and handling wise could take stiffer suspension set-up (I have the active). The sound is a little synthetic in elsewhere in the cabin and some of the plastics are a trade down from my 3-series (it's a 1-series after all). All in all though it's a great car to drive day to day for commute etc.
@georgewhiteford9869
@georgewhiteford9869 3 жыл бұрын
As usual, a very honest review, Andrew. Having recently replaced my Audi A4 with a fairly new BMW 3 series, I was super impressed with the quality of the interior which does make it feel special. Good to see different manufacturers on your channel.
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks George! Hopefully the first of many non-VAG cars👍
@japa6987
@japa6987 2 жыл бұрын
But your 3 series is unstable on high speed, so is much worse than audi i think
@stevepinder8596
@stevepinder8596 3 жыл бұрын
Great piece of work, informative and utterly unbiased I really hope the other car manufacturers see this video and give you other cars and brands to test. One of my favourite car You Tubers 👍
@brettgrecia
@brettgrecia 2 жыл бұрын
I like the looks of the BMW in the metal, on camera the front grill looks large and flat but in person you realise it wraps the front of the car and are not as in your face as you think. Also the side contour is lost on most press videos and photos which is more evident in the metal. Overall I like it. The decision for me is m135i or m235i
@davel8byr
@davel8byr 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha.. you turn coat Andrew! You can’t beat good and honest reviews. We all know you are VAG through and through so for you to choose the BMW you’re not messing about!
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 3 жыл бұрын
Well, it's simple really, why did I buy an A3 or RS3 in the past and are those criteria being met by the current car and the answer is no. I loved my RS3 saloon, I didn't care about understeer and you could actually make it power oversteer so it had some 'adjustability' to it but I loved the interior especially with the RS interior styling pack which put alcantara on the centre console. New RS3 might have this too BUT it's a bit pointless when the carpets and a lot of the plastics now look like an A1 or Polo, it's like getting your clothes from Matalan but wearing a Hugo Boss hat. It's annoying on the £38k S3, I think I might get plain angry with the £50k RS3!
@robinhosleftfoot
@robinhosleftfoot 3 жыл бұрын
@@volkswizard Can you not upgrade the carpets and/or seat materials as an option? Audi Exclusive or whatever it is called now?
@stevecotterill7981
@stevecotterill7981 3 жыл бұрын
Nice balanced review. 👍 Glad I’ve got a Golf 7.5, 3-door, manual in Lapis blue. With 19’s and adaptive... still love it after nearly 4 years. Keep up the great work. Best wishes, Steve 😁🇬🇧
@japa6987
@japa6987 2 жыл бұрын
How is oil consumption in your R? Must you refill sometimes?
@philsmith2219
@philsmith2219 3 жыл бұрын
Well done on the video, as VAG group car owner I'm all for flying the flag, but cost cutting has robbed the S3 of its premium specialness and the BMW in this case is a better product.
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Phil, the S3 is still a good car but it could be so much better
@karlbristow1223
@karlbristow1223 3 жыл бұрын
There needs to be a bigger conversation about VAG cost cutting. I've had some terrible experiences reliability wise and repair cost wise with my Scirocco and more recently the A5. I'd also argue driver engagement wise, they've all gone backwards since the mk5 Golf. The mqb platform has cut costs and taken something away from the hatchbacks. The cars look great, they have the premium badge, but I don't feel they have the premium build and driver experience anymore. Dieselgate has killed them. It's even seeped through to the dealership experience. I've had rubbish experiences with Essex Audi and Inchcape VW. My sister bought a John Cooper Works from Fairfield Mini a few years, absolutely fantastic customer service since, night and day difference. Glad Andrew has been honest in this review.
@philip244
@philip244 2 жыл бұрын
@@karlbristow1223 vw isn’t a “premium” badge
@AntonPanteleev
@AntonPanteleev 3 жыл бұрын
Love the bimmer! Owned several BMWs over the years, before pulled the trigger on my first VAG car, current 19 R.
@kizamitsuki72
@kizamitsuki72 3 жыл бұрын
Respect. I own an M135 as a second car and i had 6 Audis and currently have an A6 50 TDI, so i’m an Audi lover. But. Audi is loosing something in latest times. This M135 is a winner car, something like an old-school sport car. Really emotional, Audi is becoming hybrid in emotions, very good cars but just machines. This M135 is the car to buy if you want to feel something special and sporty
@ndivhuwosumbana988
@ndivhuwosumbana988 3 жыл бұрын
For A VAG enthusiast your comparison was very unbiased and objective.. you've earned my respect and that was a very good video. Big ups to you all the way from South Africa
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, it's appreciated. Unlike a lot of YTers I'm not intent on making a living out of this so I am able to tell it as it is without fear of a manufacturer press office telling me I can no longer borrow cars . @jayemmoncars is one channel where they speak the truth and it's his only job so work hard enough, gain the respect of viewers by being honest and in the long run it's for the best .
@wrashid89
@wrashid89 3 жыл бұрын
great vid, cant wait to see a full review of the Mk8 Golf R
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 3 жыл бұрын
Coming soon Wseem!
@purpleotter10
@purpleotter10 3 жыл бұрын
Very good video. Drove an s3 and prefer my Cupra ateca. BMW looks good though
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 3 жыл бұрын
Not driven the Ateca Cupra yet but one day. Formentor looks great too
@DrFod
@DrFod 3 жыл бұрын
I've seen quite a few people on VW/Audi forums jump ship to BMW lately, and this review confirms why. BMW also tend to give bigger discounts and have better finance options.
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 3 жыл бұрын
Good point. CarWow quote 10% off BMW and just 5% off A3
@Rocketed12
@Rocketed12 2 жыл бұрын
The M135i F40 is absolutely not a drivers car. Yes I've owned one, also a Golf R 7 & 7.5. The BMW is massively compromised from an engineering point of view - Their first fwd, their first xdrive with transverse engine, Toyota Aisin gearbox - why couldn't they design a proper twin clutch which is what a high performance car needs? Interior quality is not special as so many perceive - the centre console buttons panel is cheap & nasty, you press one button and they all move. The dash is boring, bad design, bland, not customisable like VAG cars. Waiting for a Golf R 8 now, when it arrives later this year
@zippy441
@zippy441 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rocketed12 I wish I could agree as far as BMW built quality goes. I had my heart set on a new Golf r, but after experiencing the new interior I realized it really wasn't what it used to be... Since then my girlfriend has been given a 118i as a company car and I was instantly taken by its quality. She has had it for a little while now and I have had more time to play with it and I really can't find fault ... I am going to take an m135i for test drive, to see if I enjoy the drive!
@pyroteamalpha5931
@pyroteamalpha5931 3 жыл бұрын
Such a thorough and balanced review. I've been saying audi dropped the ball with this S3 ever since it was launched and was surprised by all the reviewers essentially praising it. Turns out they are probably bought and paid for. Thank you for a dose of real journalism. It's been badly needed.
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it PTA
@DjNikGnashers
@DjNikGnashers 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, genuine & honest. Glad I bought the right car (a 2017 M140i of course) ....
@antop4597
@antop4597 3 жыл бұрын
The EA888 engine getting 35mpg? is that before you turn it on?
@paulmichael3844
@paulmichael3844 3 жыл бұрын
I am a Audi guy but I like this review and faults you found with Audi now turning the s3 into a car that doesn’t feel much more better than a a3 s-line.
@I_am_Monty
@I_am_Monty 3 жыл бұрын
Great review.. thanks for this. It would be good to see a comparison between the m135i and the golf mk8 👍
@markrhoden68
@markrhoden68 3 жыл бұрын
Ok so as prices stand September 2021 the new Golf r stock will cost just over 40k yet as far as im aware both these cars in stock form come in at less than 40k which is important for tax reasons.
@matthewallen2725
@matthewallen2725 3 жыл бұрын
Owned the M135i F40 for just over 5k miles now and it’s getting better and better, had the Golf R Mk7 before it and would never go back, never lets me down on grip and power in manual brings a huge smile to my face. You can see and feel the quality difference between the R and M135i... great video, should have started the BMW up in sport for the pops and bangs 👍🏻
@lafranr
@lafranr 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always Andrew !
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks again man!
@aleemdatoo2375
@aleemdatoo2375 3 жыл бұрын
So honest, insightful, and engaging. Keep up the great work! This is quality journalism
@69maf
@69maf 3 жыл бұрын
Great review. Although Audi seem to have lost there way in some respects with the S3 , the same could be said of the BMW not being rear wheel drive only. The 6 cylinder engine in the old model was great but I guess emission laws have laid that variant to rest 😩
@dipeshpatel8974
@dipeshpatel8974 3 жыл бұрын
Not only the emission laws but there was really no place for the M140i. Besides a few niche group of fanboys that car made no sense. There was a reason no other manufacturers attempted to make a 6 cylinder rear wheel drive hot hatch.
@dennisstaines8005
@dennisstaines8005 3 жыл бұрын
Was a VW man for years had had several Golf GTI's the quality and reliability dropped very badly and I moved to BMW in the mid 90's and with just one exception (which was a dealer issue - drove the car into a ramp) the cars have been very good, a 318, 318 touring, 323, 525 & my present 530i E60 which is a bit tired after 15 years but still going strong and frugal. The Audi is in a really nice colour, the battleship grey of the BMM is awful (to me). I can't stand all the excess chrome on the Audi and the grill is too big and unbalanced. The info display is too low in the Audi and below the driver view line which is not good. I profess I like the 1 series and my daughter has a 2018 118i Msport which is really nice car but the new one does move it on. The 135i has been given good review especially on poise but a lot of moaning about the loss of the B58 six cylinder engine.
@foxesamu
@foxesamu 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry but IMO that S3 interior is way more interesting to look at. I’m sure there’s some austerity as far as materials because they’ve been going down that path for awhile, but I think the BMW looks a generation behind it inside.
@dipeshpatel8974
@dipeshpatel8974 3 жыл бұрын
Quite the opposite and you may have your opinion but every motoring journalists have said the BMW interior is class leading. Unless you sit inside both cars which I have you wont get a true sense of it.
@paullockwood7219
@paullockwood7219 3 жыл бұрын
Great head to head. I'm the BMW fan boy here, but I don't like the new styling of the 1 series, I still own the old one and love the driving experience. Being honest here, the Audi is the one I'd probably have based on the looks. Both strong performers tho.
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your input Paul, yes the Audi is a great looker but the quality downgrades compared to old A3 and that M135i was too much to ignore especially at £40k (less of an issue on sub £30k S line which are very similar to S3)
@TIM612826
@TIM612826 3 жыл бұрын
Gud review, think u need a better mic though sounds a bit muffled to me...
@bmoray5702
@bmoray5702 3 жыл бұрын
Audi looks good generally, but BMW has more reputation especially in South Africa
@patrickmclaren7623
@patrickmclaren7623 3 жыл бұрын
A good honest review. I have got an 18 plate S3. And I am awaiting the new version. You are spot on about the interior not a patch on the previous version. It also a shame that they have pumped in the Rs3 soundtrack as the previous version doesn't and the car sounds fine even with the stupid regs.
@slen6293
@slen6293 3 жыл бұрын
For the m135i - Would you recommend the 19” wheels or 18” with adaptive suspension??
@davidbrady1551
@davidbrady1551 3 жыл бұрын
After reading all the comments I didn't see anybody ask how it compares to the tcr for smiles per miles?? I'm on the verge of ordering a very high spec clubsport over here as a base model R at a staggering €63000 without even a parking sensor is too hard a pill to swallow. A clubsport with all the options ticked is far more appealing and dare I say it, a better looking car. Great honest review as always. The only unbiased VAG journalist on KZbin these days
@drjamjam3188
@drjamjam3188 3 жыл бұрын
That journalist was right AUDI defo cut down on the interiors there still nice though how many times do u really feel a door card though 🤔 S3 for me all day
@timstaples9230
@timstaples9230 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate your honest review. Thank you.
@gavinowen4093
@gavinowen4093 3 жыл бұрын
The BMW would be my choice. Even the outside looks better imo. I particularly love the front end compared to the Audi. Great review Andrew 👍
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gavin, much appreciated 👍
@kandykouturelondon2028
@kandykouturelondon2028 3 жыл бұрын
Always listen to a testers tone of voice during an Audi v BMW face off. It speaks volumes, the Audi is always monotone, the BMW the pitch is higher and more excited. BMW cannot be matched for driving experience. Go click on any head to head test you’ll see what I mean.
@Mz77519
@Mz77519 3 жыл бұрын
BMW won always from 0-100 also against a35
@bigbro8439
@bigbro8439 11 ай бұрын
not living in Britain but seeing a lot of these clips I am always surprised watching the speed which they drive on small roads with a lot of potential danger coming from the side of the road. Do not get me wrong. I like speed especially on the highway but on the B roads?
@colinw1591
@colinw1591 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. We could see the pain when BMW won! The new front wheel drive 265hp 128ti to rival the GTI also an interesting option, providing you like auto and additional red styling! Cheaper than the Golf too....
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I saw that and it's fascinating. Still got to overcome the looks but then vs Golf 8 it's an easier battle than A3/S3.
@colinw1591
@colinw1591 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Even the latest Civic Type R in watered down Sportline trim looks acceptable against Mk8 GTI in my opinion. Hope the Golf R looks more coherent in the flesh....
@1976gerbel
@1976gerbel Жыл бұрын
Love it! Nobody ever mentions the carpets. They are really cheaper in the Audi.
@mrlionrocks
@mrlionrocks 3 жыл бұрын
Great video bro, well done. Shame the bmw looks like a warthog
@TheMatadrum
@TheMatadrum 3 жыл бұрын
I tell you what, it'd be REALLY interesting to see what you think of the newer i30N coming out soon with the DCT. Especially with the updates they're making to the cabin.
@GRfourfun
@GRfourfun 3 жыл бұрын
Me too, got the current I30N and I’m impressed.
@bat33.12
@bat33.12 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget i30N pricing £30k 280ish bhp on the new one, forged 19" wheels, memory heated seats and wheel, climate, cruise, rear camera, sat nav, wireless charging, all the custom modes, dynamic dampers, very fruity valved exhaust, all stock. Only option is paint colour. The build isn't quite as good as the very best speaking as an owner of the current i30N but it is better than many and driving ability is up there withheld very best hatches.
@nigelgordon4329
@nigelgordon4329 3 жыл бұрын
Great review. Question mk8 Clubsport or bmw 135i. Does the BMW come close?
@AmperahGaming
@AmperahGaming 2 жыл бұрын
It thrashes it lol
@Rocketed12
@Rocketed12 2 жыл бұрын
I owned an M135i - Definitely not a "drivers" car. Didn't like the gearbox also. Plus blind spot drivers door mirror. I much prefer the VAG 7 speed dsg for several reasons.
@flyingbear_fpv9291
@flyingbear_fpv9291 Жыл бұрын
Only seeing this now in fact. Good video. Only not agreeing with the final verdict. But, it is simply because the arguments you use to pick the BMW above the Audi, are one of personal taste, people agree or disagree, but in the end it is personal. Driving-wise they are quite close. And to me, having driven both, and besides that a few other cars as well, the BMW always feels like they are stuck in time, while Audi and some others are moving forward with their design. Some in a good way, others not so much. For example, I don't like the complete button digitalisation of the G8R. On the other hand, it gives a clean finish inside the car. De gustibus non est disputandum.
@ravenmaster6364
@ravenmaster6364 3 жыл бұрын
Great review Andrew, I've said this before about your videos, but very funny throughout again! on the Bmw "don't tell anyone!" All cars have their faults, and each manufacturer has their own querks, but I'm worried about the things you rightly mentioned on the audi. That carpet is awful in the s3, puts me in mind of the later mk2 golfs which went with a thinner, less plush covering than the earlier cars, and the "s" door sills and on the steering wheel!?? I can't believe they haven't tried a bit harder there. I wonder what direction the group are taking, and is it in anyway to do with Piech sadly not being around anymore?
@mariosneocleous1418
@mariosneocleous1418 2 жыл бұрын
Another great & honest review. I ordered my M135i a while ago and should hopefully be arriving in July 🤞🏻the one you reviewed was in the 19's so without the adaptive suspension. Mine will be on 18's also without the adaptive suspension. In your opinion will the suspension be too firm or just right please?
@ad_2211
@ad_2211 3 жыл бұрын
They should offer a larger wheel base for European markets just to allow for all the extra clothing in winters😂
@ryanh3285
@ryanh3285 3 жыл бұрын
Find them both boring looking inside and out probably get slated for this but the Mazda 3 is the best looking hatch around right now shame they aren't making a hot version.
@TheR3negadeMaster
@TheR3negadeMaster 2 жыл бұрын
The S3 costs double fully speced, but it’s a serious car you can see it’s a step up. And btw I’m a 2022 1 series owner
@leefoster8015
@leefoster8015 2 жыл бұрын
M135i is a step up from your m-sport mate. The new non RS Audis are a slap in the face for the price. Then for RS3 money you could have an m240i/340i. Bmw's drive better, cost less and have better interior and tech at this price point. Problem is Audi always save stuff for higher end models but you can see 1 series in an 8 series.
@alanwayte432
@alanwayte432 3 жыл бұрын
Touch screen and lack of physical buttons is dangerous, we can’t use a phone yet at 80mph I have to enter submenu...crazy
@stevecade857
@stevecade857 3 жыл бұрын
As a previous S3 (2015) owner we looked at the 2020 S3 and it left my wife and myself rather cold. Nothing special above S-line specced models, touchscreen controls and large sections of piano black trim look terrible 2 mins after touching them. Competent car but we were looking more than that when you're spending close to £40rrp. With just a few options both the S3 and M135i are in luxury car tax territory and for that you'll be paying an extra £1600 for the privilege over 5 years of ownership unless the government move the goal posts and I wouldn't put it past them. We ended up optioning a Mini Clubman JCW and stayed below the LCT which is a car I think you should also compare in this company. It's very similar to the BMW underneath but with more "go kart feel" and less Germanic exterior/interiors. I think the Mini fits the hot hatch sense of fun better than these German cousins and is still a very practical car.
@iamColaboy
@iamColaboy Жыл бұрын
I have the previous S3 and for me it's the best car I ever had. Now looking for a new one. Tne new S3 or indeed the M135i. I think I might be going for the BMW. If only because going from S3 to S3 is kind of boring....
@Mycryptospaceuk2127
@Mycryptospaceuk2127 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome review dude thanks!
@stevenfoleyuk9404
@stevenfoleyuk9404 Жыл бұрын
Audi make great cars , very classy and nice to drive , if you want a car to put a smile on your face then its BMW all daylong .
@BaruKz
@BaruKz 3 жыл бұрын
It's your opinion on this comparison, like you said the VW group is cutting costs and BMW are trying to gain terrain in this segment making more even no doubt is a good product but the ride very harsh and AWD isn't as good as the Quattro. While BMW need to the advert this version, Audi don't even bother to do so. That roundabout was a joke by the way, the car it's much more balanced and interactive than the older versions that's what really makes the difference not a dummy proof hot hatch. The Audi it's always quicker not just on b road, the gearbox it's miles away from the BMW, in resume it's much more mature car which the decade's of development prove, once the BMW it's the first front wheel drive platform. The interior it's much nice to the look than the BMW.
@tan9640
@tan9640 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone help but feel that the previous gen cars are better propositions? Why one of these over a 7.5r? Or if you want a RWD driver focused car then it’s the m135i/40i easily... Great video none the less
@shifty277
@shifty277 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with your opinions above. The Audi interior has taken a backstep from the previous generation... The BMW grills are making otherwise good cars on the whole be seen as unpalletable on all the cars they have slapped them on ..
@del4189
@del4189 3 жыл бұрын
Lower range Audi interiors rear have taken a drop in quality, they even put lower quality door cards on the rear doors just to save a few quid, not much difference between a VW and Audi interior now.
@DrivenDailyTrips
@DrivenDailyTrips 3 жыл бұрын
I'm subbed to alot of car channels with hundreds of thousands of views. But the quality of this review was THE BEST!
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks Alex, I am genuinely touched by your kind words👍
@Carlst17
@Carlst17 3 жыл бұрын
There's this very technical review And theres me with my 2011 s3 esp off and plant it round a tight corner/bend and go weeee as your sideways 😂
@philipbolton2811
@philipbolton2811 3 жыл бұрын
Would love you to do a comparison video between the mk8 GTI and the new mk4 Skoda Octavia VRS as the Skoda seems a superior car at first glance and better value for money.
@Musti.1973
@Musti.1973 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Andrew. I'm still sticking with my golf lol.
@IAmxZki
@IAmxZki 3 жыл бұрын
Really fair review and a great comparison. I've booked a test drive at BMW tomorrow to give it a go myself :-)
@BobK5
@BobK5 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Volks, both are very good cars by the look of them but neither will tempt me away from my Gti pp 7.5 dcc, dyn audio, dsg, sun protection brilliant drive. Tried a Cayman 2 weeks ago, very disappointed and glad to get back in my Golf 😇
@malcolmscott4150
@malcolmscott4150 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video Mr C yet I’d go the S3 as an overall ownership proposition purely based upon my own BMW Mini experiences as I found the Cooper S chassis one dimensional yet I agree with your verdict here as RS3 likely a better match and the BMW spec is really nice yet the face oh no cannot do the gaping grille - the Audi S3 in spec tested would fill my driveway nicely :) and keep me entertained
@dilumpatel9796
@dilumpatel9796 3 жыл бұрын
Would you trade in a golf r for either car? It seems based on your video both are ok cars but not worth upgrading to if you had say the older model s3 or golf r? How does the current cupra r compare to both too?
@phillippereira6468
@phillippereira6468 3 жыл бұрын
Whoever designed the front of that BMW must also have a side job working for looney tunes or a manga cartoon firm
@darrencottrell5541
@darrencottrell5541 3 жыл бұрын
Eleven out of ten. Great to see you diversify slightly from pure VAG Andrew. As is always the case, an honest, well- informed and experienced voice. More please. Take care.
@Beardchanics
@Beardchanics 3 жыл бұрын
My issue with the new S3 headlights is not the size but the shape that is less aggressive than the 8V FL. Not keen on the new bumper either, remind me of some of the Hyundai model (side vents) or the fake vents at the back. The torque limit also make me wonder if it has the same upgrade capability of the 8V. Mine running 530Nm torque. Then dropped in interior quality. Loved the S3 for years but here feeling like Audi dropped the ball a bit, first S3 I wouldn't have.
@TomG1991
@TomG1991 3 жыл бұрын
I own the A3....I think the inside is gorgeous and so does everyone else 😂
@lewis6546
@lewis6546 3 жыл бұрын
I only ever see S-line trims on YT which is disappointing... never edition 1 which is much nicer with the black styling and alcantara. I'm surprised the S3 isn't like an Ed1 as standard. Which trim do you have? I've ordered Ed1 in white 👍🏻
@TomG1991
@TomG1991 3 жыл бұрын
@@lewis6546 I got the S-line and paid for the Mythos Black. I love it. Also, I know what you mean with the reviews. The Edition 1 is lovely, but was more than I wanted to pay. Have you got the interior lighting pack?
@lewis6546
@lewis6546 3 жыл бұрын
@@TomG1991 The mythos is decent and will look smart with the silver trim I'd reckon 👍🏻 yes mate the ambient lights is the option I wanted most, its lovely 👌🏻
@TomG1991
@TomG1991 3 жыл бұрын
@@lewis6546 few things that have annoyed me. No heated seats, reverse camera, front sensors, buttons/sun shield not adapted for right hand drive, and potentially a blind spot alert. I think these kind of things should be standard on a £29k car. Especially when Seat/Ford are producing this at a fraction of the cost. However, I love it!
@reece60
@reece60 3 жыл бұрын
@@TomG1991 all the things you listed are available in an option pack for just over 1k
@3204clivesinclair
@3204clivesinclair 3 жыл бұрын
Been driving new VAG group cars every 2/3 years since mid 1970’s. ‘Solidify’ of materials is getting worse. Never used to have any rattles after first year. Now rattles (usually dashboard) are common. It’s like they have turned down the quality control down. To save money from Dieselgate is my guess. My next ‘retirement car’ Is going to be a Volvo, or BMW.
@JackKing12.
@JackKing12. Жыл бұрын
09:05 a metal look trim surround the speakers would look nice 😊
@u187146
@u187146 2 жыл бұрын
Oh dear VAG have really dropped the ball big time on interior design. S3 looks cheap and will age about as well as a music system from the 80s. Same applies to Golf 8. Since when was a button considered old fashioned?
@iantaf5559
@iantaf5559 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Andrew. I have to agree with your verdict. The drop in interior quality of the dash and controls in the S3 is so noticeable when compared to my 8V model. And as for that fake RS3 sound...... It certainly does not justify the increase in price, I'm afraid. Thanks for a great review as always.
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ian for your constructive comments (as always).
@sodjas
@sodjas 3 жыл бұрын
I think the 0 dislikes speaks for itself :D great, and honest review from a VAG fanatic
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 3 жыл бұрын
That confirms my suspicions that the dislikes were from Joe Achilles fans 🤣
@StringerBellz
@StringerBellz 3 жыл бұрын
@@volkswizard 😂😂😂😂😂
@bshah4831
@bshah4831 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for such a detailed review.
@glenr901
@glenr901 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video comparison, for me the Audi wins out on exterior looks only, everywhere else the BMW wins especially interior quality and user interface. Also at that price point if, I was spending my money quality and durability would factor highly in any buying decision. Many Thanks
@Mr.SVE86
@Mr.SVE86 3 жыл бұрын
I would pick the 135i m x drive or the 140i m. And the Audi s3 for my wife. For me BMW is not only the type of car it’s a lifestyle. There really thinking about the company’s history. Stick to the brand values. Making only small changes on the cars. Off cours with the 135i not being rear wheel drive but front is a shame they could give it the option from the BMWs m5 that there is a button to change to only rear wheels drive/x drive to only rear wheel drive But still is it the quality of BMW what make the brand so good and nice experience. Audi is very modern and new but the quality of Audi is less plus it falling basically under VW where Iam not that fan of. Stille after Porsche, than BMW I would pick a Audi. From Mercedes I also like the small A35 and 45 amg. Just so modern a new interior but than again it had parts what not that strong build or felt cheap with cheap plastic. Just a shame for a expensive car and still the nummer 1 celling German car company. I definitely thing with all of those cars you can’t go wrong and there al good. Just look what really fit you and which you feels the most connected to. Again for me is BMW is a life style. It has also motorcycles that are also really good so definitely a plus. Another thing are the experience of you get a new BMW or just when you walk in a BMW dealer with the fashion, the sit corners with the big screens etc. Just hole the experience is so great. And yes the car drives also good, it’s a company, don’t forget with one of the most race experience and like Porsche every time where they put them self into they win with the brandname. Yes Iam BMW lover but not a hater! I love cars and I really thing Audi is super modern and the Quattro is another level. And Mercedes crazy a cool the layers interior looks. Be safe everybody!
@Jim-jw8gb
@Jim-jw8gb 3 жыл бұрын
Price wise you can get better discounts on the BMW and the apr is a lot less than Audi’s making a pcp purchase much more competitive on a monthly basis with the BMW.
@JMNTN
@JMNTN 3 жыл бұрын
the audi interior looks great at first glance but it looks so much cheaper made than the old one
@davidhall7744
@davidhall7744 3 жыл бұрын
Nice review Andrew 👍 That grill on the BMW reminds me of someone who has put too much lipstick on, Ronald McDonald comes to mind 😂
@stevecade857
@stevecade857 3 жыл бұрын
To much bottox more like.
@Wilko101
@Wilko101 3 жыл бұрын
YES! Just sat down with a brew and this popped up on my subscription feed......and RELAX! Love your videos mate
@shadygiz
@shadygiz 3 жыл бұрын
I've had the M135i since june last year, had the remus race OPF back exhaust fitted @ Motech, makes it sound totally different.
@AmperahGaming
@AmperahGaming 2 жыл бұрын
My Remus exhaust will arrive tomorrow I’m super excited for the sound! Are you still happy?
@shadygiz
@shadygiz 2 жыл бұрын
@@AmperahGaming Yes very happy with the exhaust, it totally transforms the car
@AmperahGaming
@AmperahGaming 2 жыл бұрын
@@shadygiz yesterday was the day that it got installed on me own m135i. You are absolutely right! I would have never imagined that a 4 banger could sound this good!! :)
@shadygiz
@shadygiz 2 жыл бұрын
@@AmperahGaming love the pops & bangs on start up and the pops when you downshift to 2nd or 3rd when engine is cold
@dominicedwards9117
@dominicedwards9117 Жыл бұрын
How much was that?
@derekporter66
@derekporter66 3 жыл бұрын
nice review. take away that BMW badge and that could be anything, its a shame
@BojanPetrovicvft
@BojanPetrovicvft 2 жыл бұрын
you said 'THE BUTTONS IN BMW are OLD ,but the quality is perfect'. YOU WOULD rather have screens instead of the buttons? Just for the sake of future is here, now?
@ramonmartinez1428
@ramonmartinez1428 3 жыл бұрын
If only I could get either one in the USA!
@stuartderry7123
@stuartderry7123 3 жыл бұрын
Good review Andrew. i have really fallen out of love with the vw group interiors lately. but that bmw grill!! at least you can't see it from the drivers seat suppose. bmw for me.
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