BMW M140i : YEAR 1 REVIEW 🤔

[@tracktimevideos5164]

To say this is better than an RS is just totally blinkered and delusional. Good engine and RWD, I can't see any other positives. £12k in one year? My RS has cost me less over 3years and only had one trip to the dealer other than servicing. Also the RS would be the faster car in track standard vs standard, you are now driving a modified car and have more experience of that track.

[@mjhmotorsport]

What are the positives about the RS? It looks average, sounds absolute crap and it's general unreliablility are quite key negatives to me (one of my best mates has one btw). MK2 was much better and more special.

[@tracktimevideos5164]

@@mjhmotorsport your comments are only on subjective things. Personally I think it looks great and the 1series looks terrible although improved with the facelift. It sounds great (not on camera but in reality) although maybe not as nice as the m140. It has far more direct steering, it's grippier whilst still being very playful, has better body control and imo (subjectively) handling, much nicer seats and gearbox (no question), better brakes imo, I prefer the driving position (subjective I know), I prefer the infotainment system to BMW (subjective) although some may disagree. Also mine other than the recall has been totally reliable, it went in for its 3rd service last week and has no leaks at all and everything works like brand new. The RS just feels much more fun and less of a cruiser. Oh and depreciation...the M140i is dropping like a stone as did the m135i. Even a 3 year old Cat D RS with loads of miles is £22k.

[@tracktimevideos5164]

@@amacke4736 it is this video that compares the cars. Maybe you and Mark should "get over it".

[@mjhmotorsport]

@@tracktimevideos5164 I agree on the values of the RS. That is one area they win, they are more prestige in that respect. I personally think they sound awful though, as do most 4 banger turbos. Nothing worse than fake pops and bangs if you ask me. BMW is also leagues ahead in the engine department and looks wise. You just cannot beat a RWD for driving pleasure. (coming from someone with a FWD track car).

[@mjhmotorsport]

@@mainman2999 It only has 'similar' performance because the boost is turned up massively (22.5PSI). It's impressive that the 140i engine has better performance and is on a very tame tune (14psi). Start tweaking the B58 to the levels of the RS and the crappy 4 pot with fake pops and bangs wouldn't have a chance I'm afraid! Plus it would still sound shit and look like a boy racers chav wagon.

[@NickG24]

I can’t understand some of the negative comments from Ford owners, unless they have owned both cars, simply saying the RS is a better car means very little. Mark has done a back to back comparison and let people know his findings. I’ve got 3 Fords - Mustang GT, Series 2 RS Turbo and a transit custom so am not a BMW fan boy piping up. I’ve driven all sorts, and owned all sorts. I also had an M140 for 2 years and I know how good they are. I like the RS too, it has its advantages as does the BMW, simply dismissing it is just childish. Great video Mark

[@MarkCup70]

Thanks Nick. I hold no brand loyalties at all myself, I'm just passionate about driving and the badge on the front/back is irrelevant. The reaction to my change from the RS last year caught me completely by surprise...it's been an interesting year and I've learned a lot about communities and passions! Oh, and S2 RST, mm, mm, mmmm 👍

[@tracktimevideos5164]

Unfortunately the newest addition is always going to be favoured. Nobody likes to admit they took a step back, the next car will be better again obviously.

[@MarkCup70]

@@tracktimevideos5164 if I thought I'd taken a step back, that simple driving enjoyment was less in the 140 compared to the RS, I'd happily admit it. The reason I don't is because in my opinion it isn't. At all.

[@waveybeats]

Nice unbiased input. For someone who hasn’t driven either, which would you recommend?

[@NickG24]

waveybeats I think it depends what sort of driver you are, and what you are in to. Do you want something you can chuck into a corner with little skill, not worry about and revel in the way the car grips and performs? In which case the Focus RS could be for you. You can drive it with skill too but just about anybody can drive a Focus RS hard and get away with it. They drive superbly and guaranteed to put a smile on most people’s faces. You will also need to like it’s brashness and slightly unashamedly hot hatch exterior. If you prefer being rewarded for getting things right around a corner, be able to see improvement in the way you are driving and prefer something a bit more subtle and classy, then probably go for the M140. There is something magical about fast BMWs, 50/50 weight distribution, RWD and a sweet engine - they just know how to set up a car. I had the 8 speed auto which was superb, but definitely takes something away from the driving experience. They are noticeably quicker with the auto though. If you also appreciate a nice engine rather than a boosted 4 pot, the BMW straight 6 is a peach with huge potential. I think given some of the well documented issues with the RS engine may put a lot of people off. The RS residuals are, as some pointed out, better, but if you’re buying 2nd hand the BMW will be much cheaper in the first place. I had a Golf R before my M140, the golf definitely wasn’t as fast but the grip was immense, similar to the Focus. I missed the ability to grip in all weather when I changed to the M140, but think overall I had more fun in the BMW.

[@Red.be89]

I came from an STi to my m140i, once I started treating it like more of a GT car than a hoonigan car my enjoyment went through the roof. This car is just an insane long distance cruiser considering what it's capable of. 40+mpg sitting under 2k rpm down motorways, then you can boot it sideways through a roundabout! Not sure if I love or hate the fact it doesn't look anything special, 1 series bmws are everywhere but I feel sorry for anyone in a 1 series without the B58, what a great engine.

[@MarkCup70]

I've found I've gelled with the car more on road as I've treated it less like a GT car, throwing it about and using the rear axle. That said, at ten tenths on track it feels wayward...although it still ALWAYS goes where I want it. They handle really well, they just don't feel like they handle really well.

[@carl9184]

@@MarkCup70 It was never designed to be a track car thou Mark. It's not bad thou 😃

[@catalancars]

That's exactly how i feel about my brother's M140i with the 8 speed (the only way it's sold in my country). I have to took it a few months ago for its first service and drove it 200 kms (there's no BMW dealer or specialist where he lives so he asked me to took it where i live for that) and as a long distance cruiser i can't think of anything better. Lots of power available even to scare you at times, amazing fuel consumption even with a heavy foot, and a not-so-unconfortable suspension to use it as a daily driver (here the M140i's came only with the non-adaptive suspension, adaptive isn't an option). He has it since february and he only misses the luggage space from his previous F30 320i, but he doesnt think he will be able to drive a 4-cylinder car again, because of the M140

[@Red.be89]

@@catalancars I got the adaptive suspension, I was able to test drive with and without on the same day and the difference was substantial, firmer and less bouncy in sport and much much softer in comfort, it's amazing for motorways! (I did have to sacrifice a sunroof though to stay in budget :P)

[@catalancars]

@@Red.be89 the standard suspension is really rough in the city with a lot of irregular pavement, but the car is mainly used in motorways, so we can deal with that. You didn't got the sunroof but our car came with it standard :P

[@thekurgan3688]

A lot of Triggered RS fan boys haha, BMW just make better cars and better Built cars.

[@Ilovemycar0788]

What a truly excellent review given. Being a 140i owner myself, and forever looking at reviews both off KZbin and on, this by far exceeds any review of the car that I have come across. Well done; keep the vids coming. Regards Andy

[@iangelog]

I think the point here is the man has put a lot of thought into what he's saying and he's compared usage, enjoyment and figures moving from one car to the other. Is it all subjective? - In my humble opinion nothing is ever subjective; Mark likes the BMW better than the RS and that is his perception. I've never driven an RS so I won't disrespect it - I do however own an M140i and they are phenomenal cars. I've had an M140i for 3 years now and been to the dealers once because one of my boot-struts was squeaking. The breaks in my opinion are poor for a car with so much torque, especially if you're driving the auto. Mark - when you did the track day they would have felt awful because mine were exactly the same at that mileage; absolutely hideous and I was due a break fluid change at that time. Thanks for your review and thoughts.

[@LesroyBuckley]

love this Mark - You have to have that shiney steering wheel retrimmed by Jack at Royals Steering Wheels - best £130 you can spend on the that car! Cracking vid!

[@DownShiftThrottle]

Mirror covers are so easy to remove with just sliding a credit card through the side. Run flats.....what?....how did you have them on your car....sacrilege. Exhaust and panel filter gives a nice sound though....MPE with a res delete for me was perfect but I guess each to their own. Lol at centre caps - I have the same OCD Have the car lowered makes a nice difference without ruining ride quality on adaptive. LSD good upgrade....you should get a full M car next for the full experience. MPG seems decent....I averaged 28 over my 2.5 years of ownership based on fill ups and 22k combined miles My running and servicing costs were quite a bit lower than yours based on a service pack and not spending on a LSD but I opted for springs, spacers, body kit etc.... Good informative vid though!

[@chrisball3337]

Good video and stats. Its funny how people are dismissive of the m140i. I came to one from a RS Megane 275 and heard similar comments to the focus brigade... Its rubbish, it's not planted, it's dull to drive blah blah blah. I haven't missed the megane at all. It was an absolutely belting car, but for me, the m140i is a better daily proposition.

[@MarkCup70]

Absolutely Chris as a thing to own and drive every day I'm not sure there's much out there that beats the price and performance of a 140...and they have so much potential to become so much more...either a remap or diff and they're transformed. I find it handles really well, it just doesn't feel like it does...and that's it's main problem...even though I don't really see it as a problem myself.

[@yodabatface]

Thanks Mark, another very well presented video full of facts and info and you can clearly see you're enjoying the car 👍

[@gerardhorrigan5402]

Mark, great video. Sounds like your happy with the car and that’s all that matters. I’ve just sold my 66 plate RS. Bought a new M4 in San Marino blue. Currently running it in but what a car 😍

[@garymorris801]

I still prefer my m2 than the rs as it’s just a focus and no rust on the m2

[@STEVEBHPDEVON]

My rs has only been in once to the dealer for the recall and I didn't have to buy a lsd to have proper fun and servicing is cheaper also my car is still worth way more than any m140,I'm glad you have found a car that suits you and makes you happy cheers steve😀

[@THEWIZZYGAMER]

I was looking at MK3 RS and M140s before I bought an RS, My 2018 RS over the last year has lost about £4k whereas the equivalent m140i’s have lost about £8k!

[@MarkCup70]

I did a straight swap, RS for M140i, and as of right now, WBAC would give me £5,165 less for the BMW than they would for my Ford (allowing for the miles I'd have put on it). The residual value is something I most definitely miss...although not enough to make me want rid of the 140.

[@carl9184]

That engine is pretty impressive and to date, reliable. The tuning community are now putting it through its paces. For me I can only go to an M2 from my 240i

[@AA-os1sg]

Is it snappy under gentle/normal acceleration? Or just when you press on.

[@Biterphobia1]

It is my goal to hopefully own one of these machines next year, have loved them since the day they where released but just didn't have the funds available for one unfortunately. Absolutely cannot wait to be behind the wheel of one.

[@lexian2k90]

same here man, trying to save up for one haha

[@juskillz5229]

I own the f20 m135i all i have to say when he started it in the show room lord help my wallet 😂

[@Biterphobia1]

@@juskillz5229 the dealership will be saying thanks to the back of my head once I save up enough to get one 😂, straight out there to cry at the fuel pumps cant wait hahaha

[@juskillz5229]

@jay_H92 best car il ever own il never get rid mate but its all standard no diff or stuff but got all the extras go treat your self mate and another thing its a sleeper no one knows what power you got in such a small car

[@rutcornelis8498]

I found it really easy to get the mirror caps off. Just put your nails behind it in the corner, closest to the car. And just pull, and it comes off. Workes for my 125i! :)

[@Mpower-hz4gk]

Mark have you not lost any centre caps ?? I lost 3 from the front wheels before learning to remove them before track days (brake heat soak loosens them up) You can then resurrect them by heating the lugs up and bending them back to shape. Maybe your mystery moving centre caps are just loose ?

[@MarkCup70]

I've never had an issue in the two times I've been on track...but thanks for the heads up. If I can whip them out I will.

[@robertlangham2356]

Great ownership review and comparison. Very helpful to anyone considering buying. 👍

[@JoeAchilles1]

Another great video Mark, hopefully bump into you at Goodwood really soon :-)

[@MarkCup70]

Let me know when you're next down this way Joe, would be good to catch up 👍

[@Ilovemycar0788]

Joe Achilles - hopefully I’ll bump into both of you at Goodwood. Any excuse and I’m there !

[@carlhughes8312]

Ooo friend 👍🏻👍🏻

[@lucatonipeperoni]

Hi mark, sorry im new to this channel and havent watch all videos yet What was the reason for the replacement of the backbox? I have a m140i since june and now my first winter is coming and i have this ugly noise from the exhaust valve.. its not a rattling like in other videos.. its more a metallic squeeki sound every time the valve opens/closes. Many thanks for your advice

[@MarkCup70]

I had the rattly valve on startup. So another back-box and, so far, all has been fine.

[@samellio]

Mark - great vid, bet you’ll get a second at least with the LSD but most importantly it’ll be much more fun! Why not try some track pads? - if you’re very quick Tegiwa are doing a full set of PBS pads for 175 (you buy the fronts and they include the rear FOC). If you get some negative camber your tyres will last so much longer, will also be able to run lower pressure and get more grip. I might take mine to Snett on dec 14th if you fancy it? What a suprise to see track time’s comments here too.. KZbin’s finest 😂

[@MarkCup70]

😂😂😂

[@CIratose]

@MarkCup70 - What app have you used there for cost logging? Or is it a fancy spreadsheet?

[@MarkCup70]

I use FuelLog to record fill-ups but otherwise it's all done in Excel.

[@boostaholic7116]

Good luck @ Goodwood Mark hope the weather improves a bit for you! Looking forward to the next instalment 👍

[@EJMiller123]

Great video Mark, love the content! Glad you’re enjoying the M140i, what a machine! What are your honest thoughts on the new M135i xDrive that BMW announced in September?

[@MarkCup70]

I intend to try and get a lengthy test drive in one to see if I can make a video out of it...but having done the AWD thing with the RS I think I'll be disappointed.

[@EJMiller123]

MarkCup70 Look forward to it! I’d be interested in heading your thoughts. (I work for BMW so my opinion may be slightly biased) but the new ARB technology they’ve used is bloody incredible - pretty bold for a manufacturer so state they’ve “eliminated understeer” but they aren’t joking! The handling, grip and front end predictably and precision is spot on. I believe you’re local to the Surrey area, I work at Cooper Cobham - they would be more than happy to lend you the car if you did a piece on it!

[@MarkCup70]

@@EJMiller123 so long as they accept I'll speak my mind this appeals Elliott. Can I contact you there? I won't be able to do anything until the new year though. If love a run in one, understand what your saying about the front end, will be interesting to see how it all comes together without throttle adjustability of the rear.

[@EJMiller123]

@@MarkCup70 I actually won't be there in the new year (I'm moving on to pastures new), but I will have a word with them, I would imagine they'd be happy to assist with this - It's a nice bit of local sponsorship of us! I will drop you a comment with what they say...

[@s11smk87]

I’ve got a 116i for my first car, can’t imagine how you car would feel!

[@Mike-pl1dz]

I had a 116i one day and then borrowed a M140i the next. The first time i put my foot to the floor... 😁😁😁😁😁

[@s11smk87]

Michael Woods haha my next car hopefully will be something like that or a 3 series

[@Mike-pl1dz]

@@s11smk87 I was extremely tempted to go for the M140i but after having it for just 1 day, there's no way I could justify the cost of the fuel when I do about 18000 miles a year.

[@s11smk87]

Michael Woods Jheez I average 5-6k a year so wouldn’t be too bad for me. But insurance ruins it for me tho coz I’ve only just got the 116i 2 months ago for my first car and insurance was 2.8k, imagine a 3 L

[@AB-vi8zl]

What's the point of buying the 116i? Should've gone for a sensible Toyota or Ford to keep costs down. That must be dreadful to drive

[@mpicanza4491]

Hi Mark, once again great video with useful information. One aspect that I would love to hear more from you about are the PS4s you fitted. I am asking because I am considering them for the spring next year. I am on Wintercontact TS850P right now, but the car came with MPSS. The issue I have with the MPSS is noise and harshness. This has become very evident since switching to the Contis, even taking into account the winter vs summer tyre differences.The PS4s are not viewed as a replacement for the MPSS and considered 'softer' and a 'step down' to the MPSS. Your view on this would be valued.

[@MarkCup70]

You have runflat or non-runflat PSS? If they're runflat that's your problem. As a summer or track tyre the PSS beats the PS4 all day long. The PS4 has great wet grip, but soft sidewalls giving some comedy squirming while on the brakes and loaded up in corners on track which doesn't help confidence levels. I changed my tyres 3 days ago, but I've gone for something completely different this time around...I'll have more on that in my next video.

[@mpicanza4491]

@@MarkCup70 Looking forward to seeing that. The PSS are non runflat. I have a different take on the M140i. For me, I didn't buy it to be an 'MLite' or build it into an M car. I think it fits the perfect GT car role in my circumstances. Your analysis of the PSS vs PS4 seems spot on and consistent with others who know what they are talking about. Happy to meet up and let you try my car for comparison.

[@SpeederSiehtAlles]

Feeling the LSD do what it does for the first time is a wonderful, wonderful thing ;)

[@MrH88]

BMW do some self centering wheel caps. That should solve your OCD issue

[@paulaspinall7596]

Good video Mark, looking forward to seeing the comparison lap times.

[@MarkCup70]

Sadly the weather's not looking to good for lap times Paul. I'll happily take a quiet wet track to play on with my LSD though.

[@paulaspinall7596]

@@MarkCup70 I really think your having a much more engaging drive with the BMW over the RS, it's fun to watch the amazing cornering and speeds your achieving at Goodwood, I used to live on Hayling Island. Now I have Road Atlanta in my back yard...

[@MarkCup70]

@@paulaspinall7596 That, I'm truly envious of but hey, I've got Goodwood on my doorstep 😀 The difference between the two really boils down to the fact that I can put the car off the track with just the throttle in the BMW whereas in the RS, that would never happen. I like that, you have to really drive it.

[@Chris.keeprunning]

Thanks for the video Mark. Im considering one as my next car . Look forward to your next video 👍

[@NWGaryP]

Another excellent video packed with great information :)

[@Matthew-jn7ss]

I wouldn't be going to we buy any car to find out how much depreciation you've lost mate. They underprice cars massively, it's well known. Autotrader would of been a better comparison 👍

[@MarkCup70]

This is true, but the WBAC is consistently poor and most definitely achievable. Any price I might take from AT would always be subjective...and therefore open to debate...whereas the WBAC price isn't.

[@carl9184]

Even auto trader is low compared to BMW approved dealer. I was offered an additional 2K from the quoted Auto trader.

[@alpinab14]

manual or auto man ? or should it be diesel car = auto or fun petrol = manual ?

[@AM7151]

Have you still got this mate and how is it ?

[@muldix]

Thank You for this review! This car is so much more interesting than the new M135i

[@simonfearing4907]

Excellent video mate very informative how many miles do you travel to work everyday? Assuming you use it as a daily

[@MarkCup70]

When I had the 140 it was a 30 mile round trip. It's gone now though, sold it just over a year ago.

[@simonfearing4907]

@@MarkCup70 what do you drive now? Why did you get rid of you don’t mind me asking?

[@MarkCup70]

I now have a Cayman. I got rid because it was pointed out that I have no need at all for rear seats (children grown up and two other 5 door cars in the household) and I craved a bit more driver feel and feedback which was always slightly lacking in the M-lite.

[@simonfearing4907]

@@MarkCup70 seems a fair compromise I’ve driven a 140 for the first time and I shit myself as the back twitched on a straight launch , I think that’s what attracts me tbh it’s either this or the golf r but bang for buck the bmw wins hands down

[@MarkCup70]

Yeah, if I ever needed that much car again I'd buy another 140 in a heartbeat. Plenty of power and a drivetrain that can be fun but demands respect!

[@matrobroberts916]

Glad your enjoying the car enjoy watching your videos.what are your thoughts on the new m135i?what would you buy next after the m140i?

[@MarkCup70]

Thoughts on the new M135i? One word... generic. After the 140? I haven't thought that far ahead. The only car that would even slightly appeal right now is an M2. I'd love a Supra, especially if they did a manual, but right now I can't be without hatchback practicality and rear seats.

[@matrobroberts916]

@@MarkCup70 definitely agree on the m2 plenty of choice for the moment.

[@jonathanclarkewater]

Great video with lots of info. I had to watch it twice! Are your front tyres wearing more on the outer edges like mine? Maybe it needs camber or toe or something adjusting ?

[@MarkCup70]

Twice? I'm flattered LOL Front sidewalls? As of three days ago I'm now on my 3rd set of tyres on this thing and I've never had the sidewall wear many report.

[@RobertMilat]

The m140i is one of my dream dailys

[@chrisbaxter5041]

I have always been anti BMW but can now see the appeal seems a better bolted together car than the RS but the RS still has it on looks

[@MarkCup70]

Agreed on both counts. The 140 would pass for a 114d easily, especially when filthy, which helps.

[@tfj8430]

Dot 5.1 fluid and braided lines. 28psi tyre pressure and a good poop for weight saving u should be good 😊

[@marksshot6083]

smashed it this is what a review should look like 👍

[@Spudcracker]

Mark are you planning on giving it a remap any time soon? Would be good to hear your views on it in everyday and track driving with a remap

[@MarkCup70]

I need to take it on track on a dry and preferably warm trackday with the LSD before I decide on more power. It does appeal, but if there's enough power there already to work that diff then I may just remain standard. The 8/10 hooligan in me says just do it though.

[@briank4535]

@@MarkCup70 Enjoyed your review thanks Mark. Regards the remap, do it! MHD stage 2 has pushed the everyday enjoyment level of driving my 140i through the roof.

[@MarkCup70]

I've heard good things about MHD. My warranty expires soon......

[@briank4535]

@@MarkCup70 You will not regret it Mark. I think owners who pay 3 times as much for custom tunes are kidding themselves. Black Friday sale on MHD, buy now and install the tune when you are ready.

[@df9834]

Cracking review mark 🤙

[@avalaugh1980]

Hey Mark, I see in the video clip you got a test ride in a LSD equipped car, was it the same car you got the diff from ? Only reason is the manual and AUTO cars have a different final drive.

[@MarkCup70]

The LSD from the auto M135i fits the manual M140i ONLY. The auto M140i is the one that has a different final drive so Jeff's diff wouldn't have worked for me if mine had the ZF8.

[@anthonyh958]

MarkCup70 great info mark 👍

[@robinhosleftfoot]

Hey Mark, Good video but can I ask how many miles you did this year to get a £3239 fuel bill? Appreciate some was track days but wondering how it is in real world. Also only £299 insurance? Great price for that car. Who is insurance with?

[@MarkCup70]

That was covering 14,685 miles. What you see is real world fuel economy, the two trackdays will only have taken the average down a tiny amount as my mileage driven on track is 1% of the total. My insurance is BMW's own.

[@robinhosleftfoot]

@@MarkCup70 👍

[@Lou-f]

How much is the Bmw lsd? Any reason to pick up a Quaife or something else over it?

[@MarkCup70]

They're something like £2.5k new from BMW...but Jeff did me a nice friend's price deal. Quaife, Wavetrac? They work differently to the plated Drexler one...how those differences show themselves on road or track though...I have no idea.

[@SamAustin]

Great overview Mark 👍 I know the effort it must take to get all the details for a 9min video is very high. Everyone has their personal opinion so I'm glad your enjoying the BMW. I also dont think you've ever said the RS is a better / worse car than the 140i it's just different and I get the impression your looking forward rather than backwards which is the right thing to do :-)

[@MarkCup70]

You got it Sam. They're different cars with different strengths...and weaknesses. It all comes down to which things you place a priority on. I actually like the fact that the 140 allows me to be more of a hooligan, and discreetly so 😂

[@jondavies5885]

Agree on rhe run flats ive just gone to standard on my 225d, loads better.

[@JohIso]

Nice summary! I realise that I’ll drive like my granny, my average is 38,2 mpg.

[@MarkCup70]

There's nothing wrong with that! As a car to just recline in and chill while making progress, and with 400lbsft that's very easy to do, they're sublime.

[@baileypate9460]

That's really good, my mate has a 2018 Ford Fiesta ST line, it's only a 1.0L and it gets 27 MPG 😂😂

[@Kai240i]

Wish the m140i would come to USA

[@Noddyunplugged]

True story: the BMW locking wheel nuts are a nightmare, just like the run flats and the daft alloy valve caps - change asap

[@flyingwithmatt1986]

Good video Mark. But did you ever get to the bottom of why your hands jiggle around on the wheel so much - even in a straight line? 😂

[@MarkCup70]

I think so, and the fact that you're the only one to mention it for months kind of backs that up. Two hands on the wheel, ALWAYS, and a firm ride in the RS = lots of movement. Two hands on the wheel, ALWAYS, and a more pliant ride in the 140, and no one notices it.

[@ricknick74]

Where u get the mount for go pro on the seatmate ?

[@MarkCup70]

There's a link to it in the video description rick.

[@benwilliams3513]

Great video mate

[@woodshd97]

What app do you use to input your fuel data into?

[@MarkCup70]

I record it using an app called Fuel Log to record my fill-up mileage, costs, and fuel volume...but what you see in the video, the charts and so on, is all down to me taking the data recorded and playing about with it in Excel.

[@michaelhesford5191]

Even with your charts mark I’d still rather have the RS 🤪🤩 but I’m glad your enjoying it.. I’m glad it’s better on fuel and I’m also glad it’s faster in track ? (I find that one hard to believe ) I reckon if you went back to an RS now you would beat that bmw time.. you did that track over and over again got more confident that’s the reason why you beat it 🤪😎

[@mjhmotorsport]

He's been doing that track for donkeys years and knows it like the back of his hand. So it's nothing to do with learning it more in the 140i. It's just simply a better all round car and now it's got a proper diff it will be even quicker still.

[@michaelhesford5191]

mjhmotorsport I beg to differ ! I’ve beat many round the track not one bmw140i has ever come close !

[@mjhmotorsport]

@@michaelhesford5191 That means absolutely nothing! I've beat many a Porsche around a track in my trackcar. That doesn't mean its faster. It just means they were'nt pushing as hard. Same driver in both cars would show the 140i is faster, simple as that. As proven in this video. (and that was even without a proper diff in the bmw!!)

[@michaelhesford5191]

mjhmotorsport ok mate you believe that 👍🤪

[@STEVEBHPDEVON]

If mark had stop moaning about the rs he would have gone faster and he didn't even put it in track mode also didn't have ps4 tyres and was the track temperature the same, was the air temperature the same all these things make a difference, if I want a bland looking depreciating car that look like every other 1 series then the m140 is for me good luck with the new generation m135 cheers steve

[@mjhmotorsport]

Good video mate. Very interesting.

[@Saavvvv]

Which BMW dealership do you use mark? Chandler's Worthing?

[@MarkCup70]

That's the one, in Rustington. They gave me a comedy vehicle check write up when I took it there for a brake fluid change after my last trackday. "Front brake pads show signs of overheating. Rear brake pads show signs of overheating. Tyres are showing excessive wear." 😂

[@Saavvvv]

@@MarkCup70 haha! Well I'm sure you had fun explaining that one... I use them too, great service. Mind you I use the mini side - I've got a JCW with the BMW B48 engine and around 300bhp 😊

[@MarkCup70]

@@Saavvvv ooh that sounds fun!

[@markrhoden68]

And there it is, LSD is a great idea if your the committed unenthusiastic possible track day driver. In my case just not worth the cost. Agreed the engine is the best, great informative video.

[@MarkCup70]

This I wanted to put out there. If speed is your thing...a remap is a far more cost effective way of going quicker. If speed is less important, and acting like you're 6 is more so, you NEED one LOL

[@markrhoden68]

@@MarkCup70 I imagine a lot off people would go with that idea and maybe the rear under body brace

[@blackflagpirate3444]

Your yearly costs are going to me more aren’t they Mark because you race yours on track on a regular basis 🤔

[@KING0SISQO]

Not really. If you dismiss the sundries. And whether or not you need new tyres and brakes and calculate the mileage you’ll be doing. Then have an more accurate idea for you. Depreciation won’t be the same either because that depends on the age and mileage you get one at. The newer the more you lose though.

[@mikescott4008]

I drive my C30 more than my M. To the point I keep mulling ditching the M and forgetting about cars.

[@simonroberts6427]

Helpful information!

[@Trophy_R]

Another great video mate, enjoy goodwood 👍🏼

[@drivelife.channel]

Love these cars!! 😍😍

[@perpetualintellectual2026]

Be nice for micha charoudin to beast this around the nordshleife

[@jony5702]

You should buy some of these it will solve the OCD. Genuine BMW Floating Spinning Center Cap Set

[@MarkCup70]

Have you seen the price of them!? I'll live with my misaligned ones for now.

[@jony5702]

@@MarkCup70 keep a look out on ebay you might get lucky

[@Spezzia88]

Good luck at the track with the LSD bud. How about floating BMW roundels for the OCD?

[@avalaugh1980]

A dap if super glue sorts it Mark, but a word of warning they like to fall out on track, I use a little sucker cup thing to just pop mine off when I’m going on track, and simply pop them back in when I go home.

[@MarkCup70]

The floating roundels have been suggested to me already...too much moolah though! Superglue? I'm not sure about that...like I said...I just don't look at them too much now.

[@cfbm125]

MarkCup70 just run once around the clips with fabric loom (tesa) tape or insulation tape, that should be enough to just tighten them up without making them impossible to remove👍

[@cfbm125]

Spezzia88 then they’d always be in the wrong orientation to the M badge.

[@MarkCup70]

😂😂😂

[@GrahamReid34]

So a better car than the focus 👌🏻 I'll be down at Silverstone classic next year mark on the BMW car club stand let's get something organised then for you to review the M5 👍🏻

[@MarkCup70]

I've just looked that up, nice meeting, I'll see if I can work in a visit for a day or two Graham.

[@moovrr]

Great summary Mark, I really appreciate your OCD approach to car ownership and reviews 👍

[@fatblokescanfly]

Excellent video, thanks. I'm still pondering the LSD.

[@ChromeDonutGaming]

M140i is an underrated car, everyone thinks it's slow because it loses to most other hatchbacks in the 1/2 mile and because of a bad driver but The M140i won the RS3 and A45 AMG by far in the half mile and the other hatchbacks are no where near the M140i. Also the rwd helps massively with rolling start drags and again win the other hot hatches by far, only if in the hands of a good driver

[@peterbennpan7288]

Whats fuel economy like on day to day driving?

[@MarkCup70]

You can see it on the chart in the video Peter, outside of the two trackdays my usual range is 27-30 MPG

[@dannyfawcett8253]

Do you miss your fiesta st?

[@MarkCup70]

Honestly, yes I do.

[@gerrym4377]

Good well balanced review. Really interesting how you can actually prove it’s better in almost every way than the RS. Are you planning on keeping it for a lot longer mate? 👍👍👍

[@MarkCup70]

I wouldn't say it's better in every way...they're very different cars but very similar when it comes to specs and performance. For me, the RS is and was always the better car to drive just for the sake of driving. The BMW though, is the far better car to own. Plus, with the LSD out back, it's far more of a delinquent than the RS ever was!

[@triv7252]

£540 a month in depreciation!

[@stevem2323]

Who gives a flying fuck.

[@raggandb]

Big T The car depreciated 50% in a year? How is that possible?

[@triv7252]

@@raggandb 6.43 is a breakdown on the first year of ownership, depreciation of £6482 against total first year ownership costs of £12746 (fuel, insurance etc). So it didn't depreciate 50% in the first year. Although total depreciation of around 60% is normal in the first 3 years....cars are a total waste of money!

[@tracktimevideos5164]

@@triv7252 depends on the car. I once had an impreza RB5 that doubled in value in the time I had it and currently have an S60R that hasn't lost a penny. Also my current impreza has lost nothing. Some cars fare far worse than others, they are certainly not all much of a muchness.

[@kurajek33]

Wow man good video, hope u make it. Gj really

[@powertraindevelopments6065]

Mark have you thought about mapping your M140i? We have a great map for the M140i if youd be interested, drop us a message and you're welcome to test drive our demo car.

[@MarkCup70]

You're a bit far away otherwise I'd love to have a go. A remap of mine may happen when my warranty expires...I'm still undecided.

[@powertraindevelopments6065]

@@MarkCup70 ok well if you wanted to do a video review then I'm sure we could do a decent deal for you mate.

[@NigeUK007]

Lesson to be learned... buy one 2-3 years old!

[@EastWood2004]

We pay a premium for brand new feeling and smell. ;)

[@GeorgeAusters]

This may be a track toy but couldn’t stand a 1 series as a daily driver... So cheap and small inside... Wait til you drive a 5 series! 👍🏻

[@Rizzer318ti]

Solution: Owning both 😎

[@MarkCup70]

5 series? Too big, too heavy. No thanks.

[@jamsxr]

Ridiculous comment, you’ve got an old 5 series barge, congrats

[@bradmarshall8363]

A year on and still can’t believe you got rid of the rs for a bmw 😫😫

[@bradmarshall8363]

The simple answer is because 👌

[@nks80]

Jodie marshall yeah because he was sick of spending half his life back at the dealership cause of the unreliability of the overpriced RS!!

[@bradmarshall8363]

Personal preference lady’s calm down sort your tampons out and breath Jesus

[@bradmarshall8363]

God you’ve really spat your dummy out now 😂 what do you drive again

[@bradmarshall8363]

Or well then no wonder your for the bmw an yes I did follow from the start thankyou everything about the bmw is cheaply made all BMW’s are always have been an depreciate like there going out of fashion and I think you’ll find the number one most unreliable car is the 1 series bmw even the police hate to drive them they prefer Audi and also any kind of slope in snow or ice there’s always mr bmw sat at the bottom waiting for a tow so as it stand the best thing to do with your opinion is write it down on a piece of paper wet it slightly an gentle press it it to your arse where the only people who gives a rats knacker about it knows where it is ie your self (sweetheart)

[@kylenewberry2598]

Anyone else think depreciation is not worth counting on cost of ownership?

[@tracktimevideos5164]

Depreciation is one of the biggest costs of ownership with newer cars and some (like this M140i) depreciate a lot more than others. Not to count it is ridiculous.

[@kylenewberry2598]

Track Time Videos but again it's never money that crosses your hand. Any car you drive will depreciate. I mean cars are terrible investments anyway. So outside of a lease, I don't see how it really affects you

[@tracktimevideos5164]

@@kylenewberry2598 of course it crosses your hand. When you buy it and when you sell it there is a gulf. Some cars fare better than others and actually some cars even appreciate. You can't buy say an A8 TDi or S Class that loses £30k in its first year and say oh yes that car was so cheap to run seriously.

[@Mrbikertomtom]

@@kylenewberry2598 my S2000 hasn't really depreciated at all in the 18 months I've owned it. Play smart 😉

[@MarkCup70]

Not recognising depreciation (or finance payments if that's how you've funded a car) is the very definition of "burying your head in the sand"! It is most definitely a valid cost of ownership.

[@aticusaticus9138]

fuck, this guy knows his stuff, loved it m8.

[@ibo1137]

BMW M140I vs FORD FOCUS MK3 RS?

[@MarkCup70]

Yep!

[@ibo1137]

@@MarkCup70 It was just a question here in the comments, but okay, you can also make a video about it hehe :)

[@jont60]

£299 insurance is good who you with

[@MarkCup70]

That was with BMW Insurance. You have to be at least 25 (or maybe even 30), and they won't insure your car if it is in any way modified. My LSD didn't count as it was a genuine BMW M Performance part.

[@chain2001]

good insight thanks!

[@jamietaylor7748]

Love the OCD. Can you buy another M140i in black and Auto. Then pay for a few mods, then sell to me 👍 I’m struggling to trust the cowboys who are selling them with 450bhp. Need a reliable owner to buy from

[@anthonybarr2549]

Wish the USA sold these models

[@nigelfarage69]

Clean that steering wheel! That shine is oils from your hands.

[@JonJon-dk3nh]

Fab vid!

[@kujtimtopojani2020]

I have the feeling he is exaggerating a little bit my friends 340i he has it all 2 years when he bought it it had 40.000 km after one week he was all on stage2+ making 541 hp never had any issues and he has an automatic. he has now somewhere 90.000 without any issues and it has never cost him 12k. This man is like i expect the M performance from a non-M car and talking about fuel mate don’t buy it go hybrid or diesel. My fucking Golf 6 gti ed35 had an average consumption of 14-17 liter on highway and 22 liters on busy roads i had literally to go to the gas station every 2-3 days but if i had to look how much it cost me in fuel I wouldn’t never own a car.

[@MarkCup70]

Exaggerating? Apart from the estimate of depreciation what you see here are facts, all diligently logged throughout my ownership. I do it, because as a career that's what I do so to keep track of, and learn from the true costs of ownership, is a worthwhile exercise for me (and may others it would seem).

[@kujtimtopojani2020]

@@MarkCup70 I keep track of all my expense to more like i write i down just to know what to answer whenever some one ask me but i never keep track or look at how much i spend on fuel , keep track of how much your car consumed over a year just by a diesel? I don’t get it. I’m not trying to offend you but i try to understand how you do it, {its like you are saying every time you enjoy you car you ask yourself at the end of the day was it worth it all that money damn it i don’t drove that far maybe I didn’t had to refuel} i mean it sounds very weird to me. I’m not a rich multi millionaire but all cars i have owned i drove them like there was no tomorrow and all upgrades i did it was for my own pleasure to enjoy it. you review is based on saving money but still want the big engine hatchback? I’m so confused. I’m really to confused to understand maybe i’m wrong but to me money should be the main thing where you look at when you buy whatever car you want it should be your happiness and memory you make with it.

[@NVMotorsportUK]

Shifting!!

[@j.s.3414]

So the car is great, the engine is great...but the entire system putting the power to the pavement is junk. Yep, sounds like BMW.

[@salahdehina9733]

Can you not have this car with the LSD fitted from the factory?

[@specialboye4910]

People really do throw their money away huh

[@nathanthompson8728]

Mr dead does car reviews

[@Michael-yz4mc]

Reliable that was the complete opposite to mine!! It literally had nothing but faults!!

[@Donny_14]

What

[@grahamhaynes7658]

Get your hand in your pocket and get an M2 comp.

[@mikescott4008]

Graham Haynes over rated in my book.

[@MarkCup70]

I've considered this, but it's a significant cost to change, and for very little genuine benefit. Especially now I have the diff...I feel I have 90% of an M car for 50% of the £s.

[@mikescott4008]

MarkCup70 totally agree. My old 135i with a Quaife LSD and suspension etc was a better B road car. Hydraulic steering rack much nicer too.

[@rsxScott]

M2 any day over the M lite bread van