Should you buy a USED BMW M135i/M140i? What goes wrong?

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@pboytrif1
@pboytrif1 3 ай бұрын
The absolute worst part about owning an m140 after 3 years is.... I have no idea what car to change to. Nothing comes close to fun, performance, economy, functionality and overall price for the package you get. Been running 500bhp on a Stage 2+ for over 2 years with zero issues.
@from2100
@from2100 2 ай бұрын
The next step is a full fat M car haha
@williamfarren2009
@williamfarren2009 Ай бұрын
I would advise against going for a full fat M car. They are significantly more fragile and difficult to live with especially if you get one with the god awful DCT gearbox. I would suggest the F90 540i, it's very tunable, very comfortable, does literally everything you'd want a car to do and the step up to an M5 only brings problems and nothing new. Strong regrets moving up to an M5.
@Tom_shaz_the_bad
@Tom_shaz_the_bad Ай бұрын
Save your pennys and Get a real M car these are not real M models they are a normal car with performance the M models handle a lot better and are a lot quicker
@MrBruster78
@MrBruster78 16 күн бұрын
You are so right, I’m in the position now
@neil5242
@neil5242 10 күн бұрын
​@@from2100it really isn't. The set-up is too firm for the road, which is where most people spend their time.
@wingmanlmg
@wingmanlmg 6 ай бұрын
Important note for buyers - in July 2013 BMW changed the turbo wastegate from pneumatic to electrical in the m135i. If you’re looking to buy one, make sure production date is at least 07/13. The electrical wastegate turbocharger is more reliable and makes way more top end power. With full bolt ons you can make 20-30kw more on the EWG
@Brajosh_
@Brajosh_ 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info bro
@fueltexgarage2768
@fueltexgarage2768 Ай бұрын
What engine code is the good one? Or they share same engine code (like n55b30a for example)
@wingmanlmg
@wingmanlmg Ай бұрын
@@Chu3kN0rr1s Sorry you're completely right I will delete the comment
@shaun75ify
@shaun75ify 6 ай бұрын
I've been a long-time follower of the channel, and as an F22 owner, I've been waiting (with a degree of trepidation!) for you to review the M135i/ M140i. Well researched and really informative for someone considering one - nice work! The N55 significantly improved over the N54 unit, and it's great to hear the B58 continues this trend. Many of the weak points with the N55, like oil leaks, water pumps, etc, run across many BMW engines. My 2014 M235i has been nearly faultless for my seven years of ownership. Apart from work to replace a washer fluid pump, it's only been consumables and servicing. The key to many of these 'highly strung' Euro's is to ensure the vehicle has been cared for by the previous owner and don't scrimp on servicing. Every 8k - 10k km, take the vehicle to a reputable European specialist mechanic and, where required, preventative maintenance. Take care of it and it will reward you with accessible fun every day. It's the most enjoyable car I've owned, and I still look back at it as I walk away in a parking lot. If you're ever in Perth and want to do a M235i review, let me know, no frumpy headlights on mine like the M135! 😛
@sanelemngadi9324
@sanelemngadi9324 6 ай бұрын
at first i thought you were trolling when you said F22 owner as i thought your talking about the raptor 🤣🤣
@AvenirRacing
@AvenirRacing 6 ай бұрын
That Wes Anderson section was a work of art.
@JayMuriu
@JayMuriu 6 ай бұрын
I love the Effort put in consistent video reviews. And The fact that you Review used cars which from different part of the world is easier and better to Buy than new Vehicle which can be expensive to some. You fit the criteria for so many car enthusiasts. Great work! 🇰🇪
@ReDriven
@ReDriven 6 ай бұрын
Thanks heaps!
@mivuyonkabi5780
@mivuyonkabi5780 6 ай бұрын
So true, the focus on used cars is what makes this my favorite channel
@AesmoMashaba-pf8og
@AesmoMashaba-pf8og 6 ай бұрын
1:1 1:20
@AesmoMashaba-pf8og
@AesmoMashaba-pf8og 6 ай бұрын
2:20 2:42 2:27 2:32
@tumomodd4955
@tumomodd4955 6 ай бұрын
True that! ReDriven reviews are insightful and easy to relate to. They touch all aspects.
@stephenwhite2614
@stephenwhite2614 6 ай бұрын
Owned an M140 for 3.5 years, 87k. Great car. Don’t need to flog it to get good performance. Huge amount of torque at low to mid revs. Works better up to 4500 revs. It’s not a real M engine. Auto is quick and smooth, especially in Sport mode. The car is a bit quick for a manual in my opinion. Problems? Had to get water pump replaced at 75k due to leaking and still loses a tiny bit of coolant. Don’t know why. Had some oil use which was topped up. Nothing major. Trim creaks inside (not screwed together like a Toyota). Wouldn’t say handling was great, but is ok. LSD would be a good upgrade. Overall, had been a fast, entertaining, economic and generally reliable car. Not Japanese reliability, but pretty good for something that isn’t white goods on wheels.
@BT_life2
@BT_life2 6 ай бұрын
A bit quick for a manual? Please qualify that garbage statement
@stephenwhite2614
@stephenwhite2614 6 ай бұрын
@@BT_life2Feel free to disagree.
@idriveskyline
@idriveskyline 6 ай бұрын
@@BT_life2 I've owned 7 manual performance cars, the M140i is my first automatic car I've ever owned. I get what he means.
@paulklp8262
@paulklp8262 6 ай бұрын
​@@BT_life2You've never had 500NM of turbocharged power delivery gone through your entire left leg before. Not like an N/A motor at all.
@EnviousOG
@EnviousOG 2 ай бұрын
Buy a replacement cap for both coolant tanks. It wasn't leaking and likely didn't need replacing. The lid leaking allows air to steam the coolant. Mine uses zero coolant ever since.
@iseeq72
@iseeq72 4 ай бұрын
One main thing that needs to be done with N55 engines: Replaced oil filter casing -> that will leak eventually and replacement isn't a bargain. The other thing is the charge pipe. Originally a weak plastic part that bursts (BMW changed the design with the B58, well aware that this part was a failure). Even in untuned cars. Can fairly easily be replaced with a aluminium welded one. Nice side effect: the engine sounds more aggressive with it.
@PsyScapeGW2
@PsyScapeGW2 6 ай бұрын
I was genuinely surprised at how unrewarding the manual is in this series.
@hobo1704
@hobo1704 6 ай бұрын
Yep, notchy as. Hated it
@JWSoul
@JWSoul 6 ай бұрын
It's a 1 series.....
@hobo1704
@hobo1704 6 ай бұрын
@@JWSoul so you think the top spec 1 series doesn't deserve a better transmission? Delusional
@Tight--LiNeZ
@Tight--LiNeZ 6 ай бұрын
If you xHP the zf8 box, you can get up and especially down shifts faster than a dual-clutch.
@mz22wa
@mz22wa 6 ай бұрын
Great review!! I’ve owned both a M135i and a M140i. Both were amazing cars that I loved dearly. I only sold m135i after the serpentine belt let go due to the oil filter housing leaking. The broken belt was sucked into the front main seal and sent belt throughout the engine. I sold it for the m140i soon after. I’ve had s3s, GTIs and Golf Rs and the F20 is still the best car I’ve ever owned and so much more reliable
@Dickusification
@Dickusification 6 ай бұрын
That serpentine belt really sucked eh?
@Sharkster32
@Sharkster32 6 ай бұрын
I bought a finale edition 2019 140 a few months ago, best car I’ve ever owned by a long way. I’ve put close to 8k on it and haven’t needed any repairs or service yet, and I drive it like it should be driven.
@funkymonkey2091
@funkymonkey2091 6 ай бұрын
An M140i is my absolute dream car. Hope I’ll be able to own one someday
@wingmanlmg
@wingmanlmg 6 ай бұрын
Disagree with the idea the m135i is flawed. It’s RWD, high power, fantastic modding support, decent on fuel and reliable if maintained well. For under 20 grand. There is no car on the market that comes close. A45s, RS3, Focus RS’s are far more expensive and honestly don’t have anywhere near as much character.
@pokiou
@pokiou 6 ай бұрын
100% agree on the dirt of the back... holycrap and yes the led tail light dims on one side :( not sure why.
@carlantonbrandt8552
@carlantonbrandt8552 3 ай бұрын
had that as well, its an issue with the led coding. sadly still gotta replace the whole damn thing for 250€, because the control unit is hidden in the housing
@derzulya25
@derzulya25 6 ай бұрын
Loved the Wes Anderson style. You always find a way to improve your videos.
@riazshaik1773
@riazshaik1773 6 ай бұрын
I got M140i and I love it, I had coolant issues with the pipes and expansion tank, all replaced under motor plan, even rear main seal and diff leaking but I guess it's from the previous owner. Everything fixed. I truly enjoy driving this car, plus the stares you get ❤mine is fitted with the mpe and it's superb.
@TheJackNesta
@TheJackNesta 6 ай бұрын
I am exactly 12,164 kilometers from Sidney (inNairobi, Kenya) and I love your videos. The tough love from Jim makes me consider going back to horse-drawn carriages. Just kidding. Great content.(please also check consistently what sun-glasses the owner uses - so far Ray-Ban is winning. Looking forward to the next video
@kUNCHRIS
@kUNCHRIS 6 ай бұрын
i am one of 3 m135i owners in Kenya slightly modded to around 400bhp, coming to 3 years ownership , no issues at all. its a 2015 model year. fun weekend car for sure
@Tight--LiNeZ
@Tight--LiNeZ 6 ай бұрын
The bottom of the seat pulls forward to support under your legs if you want, and the bolsters are electronically adjustable to hug you tighter if you want.
@DaBahoo
@DaBahoo 6 ай бұрын
Gonna be honest, I usually skip the safety part of the video, but the Wes Anderson bit was bloody great hahaha.
@ReDriven
@ReDriven 6 ай бұрын
Haha, glad you liked it
@mattdebyl8806
@mattdebyl8806 6 ай бұрын
What would I get instead? E87 130i. They’re just a better driver’s car. Awesome in the manual. NA high revving with a shorter ratio diff. They look better than these too. A lot cheaper as well. E82 125i as well, but they miss out on the extra grunt, better gearing etc. Yes you can tune them, but it’s not the same. Hydraulic steering too. While these might be the last of the the small turbo 6 RWD, the 130i is kind of the only NA option at all. Has that ‘fun all the time’ turned up because you can thrash it more at more legal speeds and really just enjoy the drive. Utterly brilliant (and super underrated).
@brando79
@brando79 6 ай бұрын
I have one and I bloody love it, great reliability as well being NA.
@vilnaric3127
@vilnaric3127 6 ай бұрын
Cheaper and more fun? I can believe that. Better looking? Hell nah, it looks like a bee stung it's lips
@mattdebyl8806
@mattdebyl8806 6 ай бұрын
@@brando79 yeah they’re awesome
@idriveskyline
@idriveskyline 6 ай бұрын
I've owned 2 manual E87 130i BMWs and have done over 100,000kms in them in total. I agree with you they definitely have that fun all of the time factor. I have an auto M140i now and the straight line performance is not even close to comparable. Add a stage 1 remap and the M140i is competing with bonafide super cars from a decade ago, and $100k brand new performance cars. Completely different animals despite both having a seemingly similar formula of a 6cyl RWD hatchback.
@mattdebyl8806
@mattdebyl8806 6 ай бұрын
@@idriveskyline of course they’re faster. But we can’t use that performance most of the time anyway, so I’ll take the fun factor. The 130i was (to me) about bringing that old school BMW out again. Not the HP arms race that the turbos are a part of. It’s like how a Tesla can be as quick as a current supercar, but it’s just not the same. 130i didn’t chase 0-100 times. They weren’t remotely about that. For the same reason that many would take an E30 M3 over the latest and fastest ones. Also, E46s are still beloved for their relative simplicity and supposedly being ‘peak BMW’, but the 130i absolutely decimates them. The poor cousin E82 128i (horrible US spec ones) have gathered a real following for good they are, but they never got the far superior 130i, so we never hear about them in KZbin land. 195kw high revving I6 in a small, RWD hatchback with lovely manual trans and short gear ratios is just about perfection.
@carlantonbrandt8552
@carlantonbrandt8552 3 ай бұрын
My experience in 1 year, 10000km ownership of a 2013 f21 manual m135i: October- bought the car with 88.000km as a reconstructed title with no major issues december- right rear light started being dimmer than left one, left it be january- first oil refill 4000km after previous one march- ac started making weird noises, didnt get to the bottom of that yet (im broke) june- tail light significantly dimmer now, had to get a new one for 250€ without installation (5 minutes, one screw) fun fact: dim tail lights are a common problem with xenon f2xs, but the control unit for the red led drl's is in the housing so u need to replace the whole thing instead of just fixing the code, although the actual bulbs are fine... july- second oil refill after ca. 5000km no oil leakage though, runs like a charm. gotta get an oil change and service wth new brakes this fall. also will renew problematic parts like charge pipe and oil cooling system
@Tight--LiNeZ
@Tight--LiNeZ 6 ай бұрын
Also there is the PNG and EWG N55 engines. Pneumatic vs Electronic wastegate. The EWG gets a 4 inch turbo over the PNG's 3.5 inch. Also you get way more from your mods with the EWG N55. From June 2013 onward you get the EWG with the N55. So the last of the non LCI update M135i get the better EWG, which holds boost better, and way more mod-able.
@benji182
@benji182 6 ай бұрын
Had an 2013 M135i and regret selling it - this video makes me want it back even more =(
@mikerobinson7988
@mikerobinson7988 6 ай бұрын
I do miss my M140i she was glorious to drive and was the perfect companion to the Megane RS. 2 black hatches worlds apart but great together... love the Wes Anderson vibe. As always boys, keep this up. You bloody rock!
@pandabond8977
@pandabond8977 5 ай бұрын
I've owned a 2013 m135i for 4 years, modded stage 2. No major issues and its a great little punchy car. I would recommend upgrading the downpipe and charge pipes to get a nice pops and swoosh sounds when you are pushing it.
@lukeskywalker1666
@lukeskywalker1666 3 ай бұрын
I got 2017 m140i stage 2 with high pressure fuel pump about 490bhp and xhp gearbox map can’t go wrong
@hinterlandrider5300
@hinterlandrider5300 6 ай бұрын
I've had a 2015 235i (n55) for 40000kms now, no issues.
@hinterlandrider5300
@hinterlandrider5300 6 ай бұрын
@Revolutionneeded1 nah like they said in the video, you just service them properly.
@mikerobinson7988
@mikerobinson7988 6 ай бұрын
One thing I found was that it is sooo much better sticking with the Michelins Cup 2's. I put Bridgestone on it for one round but the side wall was so much sloppier than the Michelin and it did make the driving experience less enjoyable. B58 for the win.
@BennyStLeger
@BennyStLeger 6 ай бұрын
Had my M140i a bit over a year now & love it. Low (37K) km’s, Alcantara interior, Quaife LSD & BMW inclusive service package out to 2028. And does it go !
@laurence2192
@laurence2192 6 ай бұрын
I hope you ignore their recommended service intervals
@BennyStLeger
@BennyStLeger 6 ай бұрын
@@laurence2192 it’s my weekend / sunny weather toy & only doing a few thousand km’s each year, so an annual service is more than sufficient.
@NotNowCato1254
@NotNowCato1254 6 ай бұрын
The key statement here is 'inclusive service package out to 2028'. Nuff said...
@BennyStLeger
@BennyStLeger 6 ай бұрын
@@NotNowCato1254 whatever
@johndwyer2486
@johndwyer2486 6 ай бұрын
Great as always. You may not realise it and may not ever get rewarded for it, but you are doing millions of people a huge service with these videos. You do deserve some result for all this effort. You make the red book look lame - yeah not really that much of a compliment but there ya go.
@ReDriven
@ReDriven 6 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for the kind words, mate! Really appreciate it
@Andrewdoesbass
@Andrewdoesbass 6 ай бұрын
I have lusted for one of these since I sold my F6 and G6E turbo. Both have rwd, 6 cylinders and are turbo charged. It's like a baby barra...
@Tight--LiNeZ
@Tight--LiNeZ 6 ай бұрын
If you xHP the zf8 box, you can get up and especially down shifts faster than a dual-clutch, but as standard it's amazing how fast the changes. The paddles are great.
@ReeceT20
@ReeceT20 6 ай бұрын
Had an LCI M240i manual for 3 years, never had a problem with it, it's been custom dyno tuned to 450HP, bilstein adjustable coilovers and loads of other bits, I love it and couldn't afford to insure an M2 here in the UK The B58 really is worth the extra money, the cars need an LSD they're likely to kill you in the wet, especially on a stock map where the power delivery is almost like a diesel. Also I'd recommend better brakes/pads they generally aren't great but thats easy to do, the pre LCI 2 M135i is also nowhere near as good to drive as the M235i, but the LCI 2 fixed that (minus an underbody brace), I genuinely think these cars were made to be modified they're pretty boring out of the box
@neil5242
@neil5242 10 күн бұрын
The wet handling issue is so overblown. Had mine since new (2017) and never had an issue surg the back end. Decent PS4S or MPSS will sort it
@neil5242
@neil5242 3 ай бұрын
For those of you criticising the handling, perhaps learn to drive a rwd car quickly. There's an art to it. Seriously.
@awlonghurst
@awlonghurst 16 күн бұрын
The usual fix is Bilstein B8's, Eibach springs, an LSD and then they handle well Otherwise their handling is nothing to write home about. The stock passive set up is harsh and quite poor. And yes I do know how to drive RWD cars.
@neil5242
@neil5242 10 күн бұрын
​@@awlonghursta cheaper fix is an IAM Roadsmart course and a few track days.
@silversleeper484
@silversleeper484 6 ай бұрын
Hello ReDriven, coming over from the Dudes Channel. John, LOL LOL saw your sit down video and loved the format of having a down to earth conversation/banter. Great work. Love the Lambo e-brake pad. LOL LOL
@lloydgriffiths1847
@lloydgriffiths1847 6 ай бұрын
I’ve never understood the hate that the pre facelift F20 gets for its looks, particularly the front end. Most of the time I prefer it to the look of the facelift model that brought the M140. It has a more distinctive, aggressive and chunky presence as supposed to the softer lines of the facelift, where it looks even less distinct and removed from the regular 1 series. And maybe it’s just here in Scotland but they are a lot more rare too so in my mind, they are a more interesting option.
@neil5242
@neil5242 10 күн бұрын
And what about the monster that's under the 140's bonnet?
@reaperxi-0382
@reaperxi-0382 6 ай бұрын
Day 302 of asking for an F22 M240i episode… I guess this is the closest for now! Appreciate the vids - been watching you guys for a long time and enjoy every video
@PGW85Productions
@PGW85Productions 6 ай бұрын
5:43 - don’t worry Adam, we still enjoy the indicator joke with BMWs. It never gets old.
@Stinky-pinkys
@Stinky-pinkys 3 ай бұрын
Don’t let this put u off buying a m135i guys I’ve never had issues like he said make sure buy one that’s been loved ! There’s faults with every car on the the road , plus the n55 sounds better in my opinion
@neil5242
@neil5242 10 күн бұрын
I agree with your comment about maintenance, but I'll have to disagree regarding the engine vs B58. It's levels above imo. Best wishes.
@malligrub2516
@malligrub2516 6 ай бұрын
Had one of these between 2013 - 2018. Was levels above the competitors for driving dynamics and engine refinement. Never gave me even a single issue and sold it on for a nice price too.
@cp4512
@cp4512 Ай бұрын
Watch out for condensation in headlamps, v expensive to fix.
@Purepump0
@Purepump0 6 ай бұрын
High Pressure Fuel Pump too which often does you in without any telling
@jaydencamilleri493
@jaydencamilleri493 6 ай бұрын
I was waiting for Redrivien to do a review on a m135i f20, was going to give mine but I knew it'll be done soon. Finally!
@ReDriven
@ReDriven 6 ай бұрын
Hope it was worth the wait!
@kieranmandy9987
@kieranmandy9987 6 ай бұрын
I daily a e87 130i. Though its obviously down on power, i far preferred the naturally aspirated engine in it to the later turbos in the Fxx cars. You can use more if the power on the daily, and it revs out more cleanly. makes the daily commute a lot of fun.
@Big.kilogram
@Big.kilogram 6 ай бұрын
How are you not a Top Gear host?
@PKDionysus
@PKDionysus 6 ай бұрын
Great review, guys. Also, shout out to your robust hairline and luscious locks, A.K.
@pluxluve
@pluxluve 6 ай бұрын
Thank you guys really wanted this one. Actually b58 is 9 years in production already, maybe there is some data on how reliable it is. I know they have a lot of revisions and specs on it too.
@kristoffer3000
@kristoffer3000 6 ай бұрын
It's very reliable, same engine that's in the Supra and it has been thoroughly thrashed on by tuners taking them up to ludicrous power
@jonathonedwards6741
@jonathonedwards6741 6 ай бұрын
Honestly I think I’m just going to stick to the swift Sport currently on the drive
@roysampson182
@roysampson182 6 ай бұрын
Love my stage 2 2013 M135i 150ks on the clock and stable as.
@illutible823
@illutible823 6 ай бұрын
So what have you replaced? Stock since factory?
@SteveCox-g5r
@SteveCox-g5r 3 ай бұрын
Can't speak for Australia, but in the UK, you will be hard pushed to find a used M135i or M140i that hasnt been re-mapped with stupid pop and bang map and been absolutely ragged to hell by some idiot around a supermarket carpark.
@neil5242
@neil5242 10 күн бұрын
Got one sat in the garage as we speak. Best example out there imo. 20 main dealer services too 😊
@BionicRusty
@BionicRusty 6 ай бұрын
My brother has the M135i. It’s awesome but this video will advise him of things to watch out for. 👍 🚙 💨 🚓 🌬
@DumbAccordionTricks
@DumbAccordionTricks 6 ай бұрын
2:35 I was cross shopping these with an SS Commodore. I drive an SS Ute, but if I ever have kids and need four doors, an m140i would be a serious consideration.
@ThePenguinface
@ThePenguinface 6 ай бұрын
Also seriously looking forward to regular 1 series f20/lci review! They’re priced very temptingly 👀
@mattdebyl8806
@mattdebyl8806 6 ай бұрын
Same sort of story, go the B48 ones. Still plenty of fun.
@kristoffer3000
@kristoffer3000 6 ай бұрын
They're very good cars, had mine for 1.5 year so far and it's been great.
@fenrir_szn6978
@fenrir_szn6978 6 ай бұрын
Im gonna assume a lot of this also applies to the m235i and m240i
@zeroyon4562
@zeroyon4562 6 ай бұрын
These rip and they’re not thaaat bad. Also, the M135i is cheap, at least in NZ.
@sjwright2
@sjwright2 6 ай бұрын
11:32 Those cupholder accessories were provided as standard with my car. (A mid-spec but heavily optioned 125i from 2013 which has been faultless and still a joy to drive.) They're useless and have been sitting in a parts tub for the past 11 years lol.
@carlantonbrandt8552
@carlantonbrandt8552 3 ай бұрын
ill buy them if you want been looking for those all over germany
@halidaymichael2899
@halidaymichael2899 6 ай бұрын
Love mine. It has one button that’s cracked, it leaks occasionally (bugger), and the damned blower motor. But I’m never selling it. When you steer it with your right foot and look out the passenger window doing it, you’ll realise that no other comparable car exists.
@samartz
@samartz 6 ай бұрын
Been eyeing these for a while and yes, the depreciation on these is as good as a toyota! Holds their values very well!
@NotNowCato1254
@NotNowCato1254 6 ай бұрын
Which is amazing, given their frailties
@wingmanlmg
@wingmanlmg 6 ай бұрын
@@NotNowCato1254 Not really. One sold at auction yesterday for 15,250 with 87,000kms. No rego and had some light hail damage though. Pretty much all of them listed of carsales have been there for several months with lots of price updates.
@samartz
@samartz 6 ай бұрын
@@wingmanlmg was is the 135i? i know the 140i with b58s are at least $35k for a decent one
@wingmanlmg
@wingmanlmg 6 ай бұрын
​@@samartz Nah, 2013 BMW M135i F20. It was online only, full service history on the iDrive. Was lowered, custom wheels and exhaust. But yeah hail damage + scratches here and there, interior wasn't fantastic either sagging roof liner and cracked dashboard. Needed some work hence ~20k for a perfect condition one makes sense. Of course all the perfect condition M135i's are listed for like 30k by spastic owners
@samlee7791
@samlee7791 6 ай бұрын
I had an early 2012 M135i and the bottom end con rod bearings went at 39k miles (on the way home from buying). I think the car had been used for lots of short journeys by the previous owner - resulted in new block ££. Seems to be more common than it should be. Con rod bearings are cheap - definitely worth adding to your maintenance schedule on the N55.
@wingmanlmg
@wingmanlmg 4 ай бұрын
If you ever end up buying another one sure it's one from 07/2013 onwards. BMW changed the conrods to forged ones to fix this problem
@samlee7791
@samlee7791 4 ай бұрын
@@wingmanlmg can you cite where you got this info, I did tonnes of research retrospectively and this is the first I’ve seen this. I know they updated the con rod bearings for the m140i but don’t believe they did it for any of the 35i’s during their production.
@neil5242
@neil5242 10 күн бұрын
A con rod at 35k from short journeys? Not a chance. Sounds like hydrolock.
@neil5242
@neil5242 10 күн бұрын
​@@samlee7791ignore it. It can't happen from short journeys. It'll likely be hydrolocked.
@EliasAnto
@EliasAnto 6 ай бұрын
Wes Anderson safety segment 👌 Also, I like Nickelback 😁😬
@derekdalton5658
@derekdalton5658 6 ай бұрын
Great video. When are you doing the F20 smaller engines? [118i]😊
@RickinHKG
@RickinHKG Ай бұрын
Where I live there is a 2018 M140i that has been used as a weekend only car with 20,000KM on it. Hoping it has a decent maintenance history. Having a look this weekend. The other option is 2016 ish Macan, but for slightly more money. Cheers
@neil5242
@neil5242 10 күн бұрын
Personally, I'd buy on condition, not mileage. I've owned my 140 since new (2017), and it's been serviced every 5k. I've put 120k on the clock. I'm confident mine is the best stock example around. A car that's done so few miles as the one you mention could have issues with cracked hoses, battery, etc. Good luck anyway.
@idriveskyline
@idriveskyline 6 ай бұрын
Great video, I bought a 2018 M140i a couple of months ago and I'm really enjoying it. I've owned many performance oriented cars, but this is my first automatic car I've ever owned. The engine and gearbox combo in this car is straight out of the 2019 A90 Supra, so it's an absolute bargain considering they're less than half the price with 3 more seats/doors. Main thing missing is an LSD which is definitely a worthy upgrade. Some minor feedback - I think you accidentally used a lot of interior shots from the the new FWD based F40 M135i in your video which might be confusing to some viewers. A stage 1 remap brings it up to around 300rwkw which is crazy in a car that weighs under 1500kg.
@kilex2899
@kilex2899 6 ай бұрын
I've seen you guys do the newer porsche boxster. But what about the boxster 986 (1997-2004) fairly affordable and fun to drive?
@klaspeppar5619
@klaspeppar5619 6 ай бұрын
“You got little nets to put your fish in” “Plastic in cooling systems are never good”, huh hum, 20+ year old Volvo P2’s with 400 000kms, that still have their original coolant expansion tank and radiator (which has plastic sides), would like to argue with that statement.
@Speedemon_88
@Speedemon_88 6 ай бұрын
Sadly have had quite a number of issues with my M140i, wish I never bought it tbh 😞
@Alva2323
@Alva2323 6 ай бұрын
Could you get into more detail? Electrical or mechanical? How often did you service it? Any mods?
@yangxu2496
@yangxu2496 6 ай бұрын
Yes, please do share with us.
@wendymorgan6651
@wendymorgan6651 6 ай бұрын
Come on tell please
@idriveskyline
@idriveskyline 6 ай бұрын
Could you elaborate?
@steelearmstrong9616
@steelearmstrong9616 6 ай бұрын
Would love to know what you had issues with. Please tell
@maz500
@maz500 6 ай бұрын
Not sure what they're like there but in Britain they have crazy high insurance premiums
@hettmannsperger42
@hettmannsperger42 19 күн бұрын
B58 dont have any Problems with the timingchain, even after 250k km still fine.
@hellomotto1595
@hellomotto1595 6 ай бұрын
do the focus st next please!! lw/lz model
@anejz1637
@anejz1637 3 ай бұрын
1:58 No you also got awd versions called xDrive
@peterwhitehead2453
@peterwhitehead2453 5 ай бұрын
Love the Wes Anderson bit 😂
@mulamulelilumadi4717
@mulamulelilumadi4717 6 ай бұрын
You wouldn't recommend the manual if only to cut down on maintenance and overhaul costs?
@kristoffer3000
@kristoffer3000 6 ай бұрын
Maintenance on the ZF8HP is really not bad and they're very reliable
@bodybagnathanieldonato8241
@bodybagnathanieldonato8241 6 ай бұрын
Casually drops disses at Nickleback just days after Kendrick put Drake in a bodybag
@rileycasey3801
@rileycasey3801 6 ай бұрын
Huh
@SkydexFPS
@SkydexFPS 5 ай бұрын
It would be also intresting to see video about BMW F20 / F21 120i and 125i models. And specially with B48 engines. Are they reliable daily with fun and sporty rear wheel drive cars?
@neil5242
@neil5242 10 күн бұрын
I had a B48 in my Mini JCW. Decent engine. No issues for me. Just change the oil and filter every 5k as you would any other car.
@jamescheung3258
@jamescheung3258 6 ай бұрын
Always wanted a M135i but after watching this it almost scared the shit out of me 🤣
@kristoffer3000
@kristoffer3000 6 ай бұрын
Don't be, they're quite reliable
@pajerosdoinghelis1032
@pajerosdoinghelis1032 5 ай бұрын
Lol dont worry I think this video was a bit OTT with reliability concern. N55s are absolutely everywhere and fine, especially the updated spec in these F20s.
@kristoffer3000
@kristoffer3000 5 ай бұрын
@@pajerosdoinghelis1032 Usually are when it comes to European cars... I'd love to see them cover W211's for example as they're incredibly reliable cars, bet it'd still be a looooong segment of possible issues and uhm'ing and ah'ing about reliability woes.
@P_FamilyJAR
@P_FamilyJAR 6 ай бұрын
Jim is hilarious 😂
@kylegriffiths5990
@kylegriffiths5990 6 ай бұрын
I think that this model of the 1 series; the F20 is keeping its value so good because the new 1 series; the F40 is complete trash.
@mattdebyl8806
@mattdebyl8806 6 ай бұрын
Yep, this. They kind of said that in the video, there’s nothing like these.
@SilTheLost
@SilTheLost 6 ай бұрын
That game of thrones reference.. Relatable, but still painful.
@somesh7784
@somesh7784 6 ай бұрын
This is one of the best channels 🎉
@mmorwood92
@mmorwood92 6 ай бұрын
Cmaaannn they’re great. Holy walnut blasting Batman
@TheWretchedWorld
@TheWretchedWorld 6 ай бұрын
not really a big issue on n55 and not a problem at all on b58 due to redesigned pcv systems.
@Stevegrande1
@Stevegrande1 5 ай бұрын
lol centre console has no scratches ooops was that your watch or ring that scraped lol
@sticks2478
@sticks2478 4 ай бұрын
While Nickelback were a band hand picked by studio executives. All of them were session musos. So while they weren't a band who formed organically, they were stacked with top quality musos. As a musician you should know better 😂😂😂
@assininecomment1630
@assininecomment1630 6 ай бұрын
Re. Engine noise... Do any of the variants of this model, include _piped-in fake noise,_ added to the real sounds from the engine and/or exhaust?
@carlantonbrandt8552
@carlantonbrandt8552 3 ай бұрын
the pre-lci doesnt, sounds fantastic from the inside, although not obnoxious
@TABB_AUTO
@TABB_AUTO 3 ай бұрын
The rear light cluster breaks.. asin the led breaks so one light is bright, the other one is dimmer. Needs a whole new cluster. No bulbs in these new cars. Grr
@awlonghurst
@awlonghurst 16 күн бұрын
It's worse than that, the rear clusters have bulbs and LEDs.
@neil5242
@neil5242 10 күн бұрын
You mean yours has? 😂
@QualityMrMusic
@QualityMrMusic 6 ай бұрын
Timing chain on the rear of the engine? It’s at the front for N55?
@dragosandronic8003
@dragosandronic8003 6 ай бұрын
rear iirc, fairly sure all N series engines have the timing chain in the back
@willbobillbo
@willbobillbo 6 ай бұрын
Any chance of a MB CLA 250 sport review????
@superjzh
@superjzh 19 күн бұрын
how about 125i M sport. I’m thinking to get one for 30k.
@jamakasis18
@jamakasis18 6 ай бұрын
And here i am in my sad little 116d xD Hey but at least its LCI, so its like Breaking Bad, good from start to end.
@CatFinder3000
@CatFinder3000 6 ай бұрын
You read my mind with choosing which cars to review
@James-cs2wi
@James-cs2wi 6 ай бұрын
For a couple of ex Londoners not a bad video😊
@mkvector9539
@mkvector9539 2 ай бұрын
They need to bring back RWD hatchbacks.
@simonh870
@simonh870 4 ай бұрын
My M140i has been totally reliable, and I love the engine. However a couple of things annoy. The ZF8 takes the fun out of driving somewhat and as standard the handling is rubbish. I have a friend with poverty spec E88 118d on 205 section runflats and his car handles better than my car.
@neil5242
@neil5242 10 күн бұрын
A poor workman blames his tools. Handling is fine. Do IAM Roadsmart.
@dalechenoweth915
@dalechenoweth915 6 ай бұрын
I am eagerly awaiting a 123d review.
@awlonghurst
@awlonghurst 16 күн бұрын
UK M140i's, even the last 2019 ones did not support Android Auto but the very latest iDrive update does support Apple CarPlay (sadly for me as I'm an Android user).
@neil5242
@neil5242 10 күн бұрын
If you're bothered about audio, you really don't understand.
@MichaelJones-mp6yt
@MichaelJones-mp6yt 6 ай бұрын
B58 pulls like a freight train and reliability wise Toyota wouldn’t have put it in the Supra if they weren’t confident in it.
@waterbourne9282
@waterbourne9282 6 ай бұрын
And so the Big Money Waste continues. My son traded the Corolla I lined up for him on a 130i. Dad called him a moron but he claimed he'd done his research. It was a ripper, especially of his wallet. Despite only having done 90,000km he spent nearly as much on repairs as it cost him to buy. Now fully inoculated against Euros Dad suggested Lexus and he bought an RCF. What a contrast, just superb and never cost him a bean outside of normal servicing. Completely impractical imo but what a car. Maybe you guys should do a review on them. Jim would be able to take the day off.
@meladgul
@meladgul 6 ай бұрын
Never happened mate
@kristoffer3000
@kristoffer3000 6 ай бұрын
@@meladgul Yeah lol, screams bs to me as well.
@idriveskyline
@idriveskyline 6 ай бұрын
I've owned 2 130i BMWs and drove both of them to well over 250,000kms before selling them. The N52 is a stupidly reliable engine. With bare minimum maintenance and daily thrashing they just kept running and running. Only problem I had was a water pump which at 200,000kms is to be expected. Car just warned me the pump was dead and I got it fixed relatively cheaply at the local independent BMW mechanic. Now a proud owner of a "stage 1" tuned M140 making over 300kw. Keen to see what the ownership experience is like, but pretty confident considering that there's owners of B58 engines running well past 200,000miles (over 280,000kms) in the USA. The engine has also been widely tested by tuners at higher power levels and proven reliable.
@jasimqureshi2672
@jasimqureshi2672 6 ай бұрын
I own the m235i 2015... I can't imagine spending on the car anywhere near what it cost to buy. You could change major items before you even reach $5k... Unless he blew his turbo's three times or did his rod bearings due to drifting... I'm calling BS.
@kristoffer3000
@kristoffer3000 6 ай бұрын
@@jasimqureshi2672 Probably talking about an E87 as well so it's even more unlikely
@tom-vx1lp
@tom-vx1lp 6 ай бұрын
I had a TDI tuned. It fanged
@jimmyp1433
@jimmyp1433 6 ай бұрын
What would I buy instead.. Well as far as something similar goes, probably an F30 340i M sport of the same vintage . I don't really like the hatch style AT all , ugly in fact. . The 3 series is a mint shape though. Slightly lower state of tune on the B58 but if you're going to do anything to the engine that's basically irrelevant
@ChrisPatrick-q6k
@ChrisPatrick-q6k 6 ай бұрын
I'm a big fan of you both, but this is naughty, it really is.
@icYHal
@icYHal 6 ай бұрын
You need to factor inflation into your msrp vs used costs. There's been over 20% inflation since 2018.
@mikerobinson7988
@mikerobinson7988 6 ай бұрын
Also... did have a water pump die in the B58.
@hettmannsperger42
@hettmannsperger42 6 ай бұрын
What year is ur car?
@mikerobinson7988
@mikerobinson7988 6 ай бұрын
@@hettmannsperger42 late 2017
@adzz6460
@adzz6460 6 ай бұрын
Bro can you please do the c43 AMG?
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