BMW M2 First Drive Review | Almost the same weight as an M4?! (4K)

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Watch our first drive review of the 2023 BMW M2. Is BMW’s smallest M car its best, or does its 1,700kg kerbweight let it down compared to lighter rivals such as the Lotus Emira and Porsche 718 Cayman? CAR magazine’s Ben Barry finds out…
Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
3:14 - Driving part 1 (everyday driving)
4:50 - Driving part 2 (performance driving)
9:06 - Verdict
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[@CARmagazineTV]

Is £65k too much for the M2?

[@raiphtheimposter]

usual brexit tax just look at the civic type R

[@kayronmercieca8226]

I'm paying £74,000 for mine. Not because of anything special I ordered (I didn't even get the carbon fibre roof or carbon bucket seats!), but because I bought it in Spain, having it imported into Gibraltar (so no Spanish taxes are paid) and paying 22% import duty on arrival. Definitely looking forward to it! I customised an M4 Competition with more or less the same stuff as the M2 I ordered and it would literally cost me £30,000 more on top of the M2, so not worth it!

[@pauln0371]

Definitely

[@iamspyvspy3077]

1700kg is too much !

[@dimsoneill]

It is when the front grill is designed by Lego!

[@FOXHOUND4143]

That power slide in the first 5 seconds, SUPERB!

[@aowen1079]

A new manual, front engine, rear wheel drive car with a straight six. Page one, chapter one of the petrol head handbook. Suddenly it seems like the car World is not so bad after all.

[@SergioMenaGTS]

It checks literally all of the boxes yet people still whine and moan about it. The internet is a bad joke.

[@pauln0371]

You think £65k is good value then???

[@dimsoneill]

@@SergioMenaGTS Good looks box? That front bumper looks like something out of a bad 80's kit car. Makes the older M2 comp look pretty damn good though.

[@chrisharris4223]

The car world is anything but bad, we’ve never had it so good! What a car this is, I’d love one. And personally I like the styling as well (but my mrs doesn’t) 😂

[@Rascularvideos]

@@SergioMenaGTS It’s too heavy, big and fucking ugly

[@Hecziaa]

Incredible videography and editing, loved this review! Thank you!

[@seinsmeld13]

Nice review mate!!!🥶

[@romb1818]

BMW had to make M2 havier, in order to make CS lighter. 😂😂🤦

[@roots4x]

The M2 Comp last gen was also almost the same weight as the last gen M4. No one seems to know or acknowledge this. The only really light car was the original N55 M2. The M2 was always a short wheelbase M3 with a cheaper interior. The G87 is a basically a shorter wheelbase G82/80. Almost no different. It’s basically a “true” M3.

[@Levente20]

best review of the G87 so far

[@Saauuullll]

That snake edit was really nice 🔥

[@alsayedfakhri4597]

Welp, that looks very silly.

[@Rascularvideos]

Doesn’t it just

[@carrera3.262]

For a 7inch wrist is the big block doable? How does it compare to say a Tudor black bay pro?

[@popsbubbles1242]

I'm struggling with which to go with manual or automatic After this and throttle house's review being opposite in thoughts 🤔 Throttle house's advice is miss the gear box as they described it as a bit underwhelming numb especially second gear feeling rubbery. Etc Now you say it's ok Is ok good enough when the 47k civic gear box is better?

[@tommy516]

I would have never imagined buying or wanting to buy a red BMW…. But, Man I want one…and I already have an M3 Comp!

[@farishanafiah8461]

I think I remembered seeing that front grille design before. Completely forgotten which one is it.

[@giannski]

Great looking car

[@wisruteb]

The shape of the rev counter and the speedometer is a real eyesore, and to some extent the front grill too..

[@Franzino]

and the rear also 😮

[@Duny100]

Yesss man, the gauges on the iDrive7 M cars were soo much nicer

[@rm1626]

yeh feels like bmw lost that ability to artfully design...just saying lets throw a bunch of random shit at the exterior and interior to look new and unique...with no sense of cohesiveness

[@tommy516]

You can change it

[@rlsedition]

@@tommy516 OK, how could you "change it"?

[@philippebeinaerts]

I wonder whether all the images in the video are CAR’s own work. If so, stunning job

[@MattJelonek]

Hi team, your audio is a bit off. It's less centered and more in the right speaker....

[@artpassenger]

It seems BMW made it fugly to sell more M4s, which seem beautiful by comparison....

[@chandlerburke3873]

It’s hard to say this is a bad looking car when parked next to it’s beaver-toothed big brother. I’d say it’s a step up.

[@Rascularvideos]

A warthog is a step up on that.

[@almcdaniel1035]

I’ll be the first to say , i luv it .. awesome

[@Iwo26]

I really like the design !

[@nezabytes]

No you don't.

[@adamwest5625]

You need an eyetest😂

[@henrikkoukku2896]

Even if you could (as an optional option...) equipped with a double clutch or an automatic transmission!. 🤔

[@martyn_g]

Looks don’t bother me, glad it still has a manual!

[@sutats]

What's the MPG?

[@markdean3217]

Really really do not like the dash board, just a slab of screen ❗️🧐

[@jamsxr]

New Type R wins for me. Still, glad BMW are making the M2.

[@rayjoedef]

I would have rather them went with shawd and torque vectoring rather than just a front drive setup - looks good though

[@neilmcguinness4422]

Have I got a leaky gas pipe in my house or what as the new M2's looks are starting to grow on me. I would love to drive one.

[@tommy516]

It looks great!

[@jamesj97370]

My LCI M2 in 2017 was fully loaded and it was discounted to £47k. This is too expensive and the resdiduals show BMW know this!

[@scottanders5333]

Should have taken your glasses off. Lol

[@alexnelson3242]

"Engage launch control to get the best getaway from the line".. Proceeds to purposefully spin up the back wheels breaking any traction 🎉😂

[@cklam8722]

Hmm...This new M2 has got more like a saloon than coupe. Its face looks "tamed". It's a grown up M2 to M4, as Ben fairly said. I'll keep my M2 Competition for quite a while longer.

[@sashnaumoski7479]

Me too M2c will be a classic

[@collinhayes9509]

For the same price I could get 991 911. Would you suggest a ten year old 911, or 2023 m2 as a daily/GT/track car? I currently have an nd2 Miata so either will be a big upgrade (GT wise)

[@tharun72]

An M2 will have a way more spiky, more fun powerband than a 991. 991 is timeless though and great to get into a rhythm with on a winding road. Drive then and decide. Wishing you Blessed journeys ahead.

[@kpiskin]

Running costs will probably be less for the M2, plus you have a warranty.

[@GermanWhip-3900]

What's going on at the front and rear? The design doesn't flow at all.

[@enigmatwist6548]

So it’s a re-bodied M3.

[@ggkik]

...how about 92k euros in Greece? With average wages less than 1k per month...

[@Cyber_Nomad01]

Was the designer blind?

[@popsbubbles1242]

He described it as a 'squareed' theme , he was quite proud.

[@djroboscope]

It’s so painfully ugly

[@nezabytes]

No, he was just stupid.

[@Tracertme]

Clearly, it is an exceptional talent when the same manufacturer can keep building even uglier cars… 😅 it doesn’t even have one acceptable angle.

[@Rascularvideos]

Yeah, and now I am, too. It’s properly ugly. It looks like three cars in one.

[@boogboog8097]

And an m4 is nearly as heavy as M5 now.

[@NoToBigBro]

0:48 "It's the closest thing these days to an E30 M3... formula remains the same." When a car weighs 1000lbs more than the E30...

[@GutoFontana]

ahhahaha bullshit! The formula ended with the 1M and the 135i coupe.

[@jacekliberak5463]

It seems a bit uncomfortable to lift your elbow every time you change gears, doesn't it?

[@operationgetthugs232]

2 series was always ugly.

[@loverofgod6176]

Why did BMW feel the need to copy the Honda Civic Type R rear end side 'vents'...

[@abcdLeeXY]

“Almost the same weight as a Toyota RAV4”*

[@CARmagazineTV]

👀👀😮

[@Sum_Ting_Wong]

£65k? Wow 😳 You can buy a two year old LCi F90 M5 Competition for that money......🤔🤔🤔

[@JamesSmith-qs4hx]

This is brand new 🤔

[@billshoe22191]

Funny watching him afraid to criticize and give an honest review. Hideous design. Way too heavy. Not roomier inside for the backseat regardless of what this guy says compared to prior gen. They dialed out the fun. Step backwards.

[@tfunkhou88]

Man…how ugly the new car is really stood out when they showed the E30 M3, then the 1M, then the F87 M2, and then…this thing 😬🤢🤦‍♂️

[@iMANTlS]

Z400 and GR86 are having a laugh

[@markdc1145]

The steering isn't tactile and the shifter isn't tactile yet this car supposedly comes from the M division. Hmmm. Who then is developing these cars?

[@supraJZA80s]

BMW's lost their tactility a while ago

[@neilmcguinness4422]

The BMW office cleaner on her drunken tea break. As she smoked a crack pipe. She nailed the design anyway.

[@pereldh5741]

One strange looking car

[@tommy516]

It looks amazing! Better than the F87

[@ToBeOrNotToBeThatIsTheQuestion]

Agree. I've seen 4 in the flesh this week and it's uglier than Shrek's arse.

[@videogazer801]

It’s definitely a strange looking car, almost as if it’s incomplete

[@nathandepasquale9571]

Na

[@Ginbaubabe]

And people thought the Chris Bangle-designed BMWs in the 2000s were quirky, the most recent generations are just plain ugly! Shockingly ugly! And 1700kg in a small sports car? Do the engineering team actually know car design? Both the design and engineering departments should be sacked!

[@RichAbe23]

This is a hideous looking car.

[@lindaskhosana6623]

Literally looks like a toy...🙌

[@Murphy252000]

Boke

[@BigShmeels]

I dislike that you only mentioned the GLARING downfalls of this M2 successor for like 15 seconds. Pricier? Heavier? Less playful (“baby M3”)? No steering or shifting tactility? Worse styling? Longer wheelbase? I’m sorry, but there is no reason why an enthusiast should buy this over the old M2 Comp

[@wtr861]

Go price a manual m2 comp with under 20k miles. They’re about 60-65k for a 2-3 year old car. Not to mention they have a pretty serious Achilles heal, the crank hub sprocket is a serious issue for a 60-65k used car.

[@BigShmeels]

@@wtr861 Still a better car imo

[@videogazer801]

BMW designers have become lazy and have gone blind with this M2. This car looks okay at best. M2/M3/M4 are all messed up looking for the money buyers end up paying out the door for it’s looks. Wait 5 years past it’s last production year before going EV, and you’ll see these G-series M cars will be apparent flops in the history books. SMH

[@MacellaioNero]

Doubtful anyone thinking carefully would go for a new M2 when you can get an essentially new, 1-year old, sub 5000 mile M4 for the same or less money.

[@wtr861]

No you can’t.

[@MacellaioNero]

@@wtr861 You can right now in the UK. Just checked autotrader, there's 7 M4s, less than £65k, less than 5000 miles, barely a year old. So, yeah, you can?

[@zooski1516]

@@MacellaioNero they are considerably more in North America but the price is tumbling quick. Still close to 100k which is not far off msrp here in Canada.

[@edombre4637]

I will always pick a new car over a used one, I just love getting a brand new car that no one else has sullied.

[@mike786551]

@@AABB-rw6mh wrong lol. the interior is the exact same on both, plus the m2 drives better than m3/m4 so m2 is a better buy.

[@brightenupcc]

Ben Barry is the epitome of a journo who is great on paper and greatly boring on screen

[@sinisajakus3602]

normalna serija 2 kupe je najbolji bmw bez daljneg uz seriju 5 a tek m2 toje več remekdjelo,ovoje za ljude koji imaju novaca i kupuju ovo za gušt a za 10 godina kao polovnog če moč prodat za duplo

[@jameswillard1]

5:22 really with the sci-fi action sounds? 🤦🏻‍♂️ This is why I don’t watch Top Gear ⚙️

[@GutoFontana]

to match the fake engine sounds.

[@jameswillard1]

@@GutoFontana ironically this one is claimed to have almost no fake engine sounds

[@5abivt]

Great review. absolutley hideous vehicle.

[@JoeTryn]

Integra type s : hold my joint 🚬

[@P3iSwe]

It looks like a Camaro...

[@clpauto3710]

The automatic fixes the poor throttle response

[@sixpotshot]

Another porky and ugly BMW (with bumpers that look just like coming from an amateur's half-baked resin mould...) with what to me looks like yet another wonky interior with once again a big screen semi-plastered randomly onto the dash...however great the rest may be, at 65k (more like 70k with options...if not more) this cuts no mustard. Forget the kids: Porsche still rules this segment but it seems these ones are tired of so much success and can't wait to kill it by dropping a big vicious, one dimensional & monotone battery into their queen & king combo...if Lotus makes the right moves (highly unlikely...) they may have, finally, this segment just for themselves...

[@cstraley]

What do Porsche and Lotus have that is in the price range of the new M2? Nothing... I have a 718 Boxster GTS and it was almost 100k decently optioned. You can't go much lower than that for Porsche. Lotus? The new Emira with the 10-year-old powertrain lol! Even the Emira will be a 90k car lightly optioned and 100k with decent options. Emira's in any event will be low volume so good luck trying to procure one even at a markup...... And you were saying about the price? The Audi TT-RS is about the only true competitor and they are unobtanium unless you want one someone else has likely beat the crap out of and tuned.

[@OverTheRoadRowson]

First

[@thewing331]

Fugly to big,to heavy and overpriced.

[@jeffthomas3937]

That’s one fat car 😂

[@Kevin-si1es]

Wouldn't never have one will be totally unreliable shoddy build quality

[@danielmcdonald9917]

Looks shit though 😅

[@zuffweiss]

It's just not a beautiful car.

[@craigfleming-dc7fw]

Horrible looking,what are BMW thinking?

[@Chris-yg3nj]

It's terribly ugly.

[@Krasshirsch]

Terrible design, looks like a cheap chinese knockoff of an actual M2