The transition at 1:00 from diesel to petrol to convertible model was beautiful 🙌🏼
@digitalvectordrawing3185 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@robjohns20985 жыл бұрын
It’s a good transition, I think they disguised the transition with fake camera shake which is a bit cheaty, but it’s not bad.
@vulfieamadeus83065 жыл бұрын
Thank you, THANK YOU for fixing Henry's in-car mic! Sound is so much clearer.
@64Alvis5 жыл бұрын
Having owned a convertible in the UK, I’d say hot sunny days are when I want the roof up. Mild spring and autumn days are better, and I have had wonderful top down winter drives when it’s frosty but sunny, so the countryside sparkles like diamonds - just crank the heat all the way up.
@TrustMeIKnowEverythingАй бұрын
You want the roof up on a hot day lol. Good idea buying a convertible for you then 🤣🤡🤣🤡🤣🤡🤣
@danielohio94625 жыл бұрын
The thing with BMW interiors is that they're very colour sensitive. When the interior is all black with a smattering of silver here and there they can look quite plain but if you add some contrasting colours it really does make a difference. Plus the ambient lighting at night lifts it as well. But I take Henry's point here - for this sort of money I'm going 911
@TrustMeIKnowEverythingАй бұрын
But second hand these are 40k. For equivalent age 911 they are 80k lol.
@tdrxyАй бұрын
@@TrustMeIKnowEverythingin europe this is 50k but the equivalent 2020 911 even the base one is atleast 100k
@TrustMeIKnowEverythingАй бұрын
@tdrxy cool story bro
@tdrxyАй бұрын
@@TrustMeIKnowEverything true story bro
@TrustMeIKnowEverythingАй бұрын
@tdrxy do you understand we are saying the same thing. You are talking euros I'm talking pounds 🤦♂️🤡🤦♂️🤡🤦♂️
@stempleton19915 жыл бұрын
So happy about this, I had a chance to drive the original V12 a year ago and it was so superb. Thirsty but superb. It's just a different experience to what you would think for a vehicle of the size and he is dead on it doesn't feel heavy. Wish I could drive this one.
@gregmayled5 жыл бұрын
You can use a convertible far more often than you think in the UK. It’s so much more of a driving experience than a hardtop, especially if your car sounds decent
@inspirice98445 жыл бұрын
@R A except mclarens :p
@ECCvideo785 жыл бұрын
It sounds... *No noise*... Rather wonderfull !
@slambump19785 жыл бұрын
I'm a simple man, I see Henry Catchpole in the thumbnail and I enjoy the video.
@magmovies93235 жыл бұрын
That car + that scenery 😍
@mubblemann5 жыл бұрын
"It weighs 125kg more due to the folding roof, which makes it 125kg more than the coupe". Henry Catchpole 2019
@lloydyjonesy4 жыл бұрын
there are other variables that can change the weight differential, he was right to state both points
@peejstar5 жыл бұрын
Best channel not only on KZbin but anywhere at the moment, TV producers take note
@JacesOwnWorld5 жыл бұрын
Agree. Tired of all these KZbin posers trying to make car channels
@brethren1115 жыл бұрын
Needs a light brown leather interior
@leviathan52075 жыл бұрын
what are you, 87?
@devilgames22175 жыл бұрын
White*
@brethren1115 жыл бұрын
@@leviathan5207 it's kind of an old man thing haha but the right tone would be perfect, better than red that's overrated
@cbrooks27675 жыл бұрын
Cinnamon leather - delicious!
@JacesOwnWorld5 жыл бұрын
ivy Strauss so you like poop color then?
@w-james92775 жыл бұрын
Summer - Which here in the UK is described as a three month period where there might be a day when the weather is hot and sunny.
@longtailgt5 жыл бұрын
I'm the kind of person who'd buy this type of car. I love big GTs in which you can comfortably do long distances or even just use it for casual rounds in the city. But I am not sold on the 8 series' looks. And for this type of car (and it's price), looks are definitely important. I'd rather have an M6 or a 911 instead of this.
@CaffeinatedDoggo5 жыл бұрын
Agree. Starting $130K price... you couldget a nice Carrera S or M6 instead.
@JSchaefer933 жыл бұрын
I'm in love with this car tbh.. Currently own an M550i but just seeing him drive through the countryside with the roof down... beautiful.
@Sigma.66 ай бұрын
Any opinion on the 840i. I'm a step away from buying one, but know zero about them. I've been driving an e89 Z4 for the past 8 years.
@JSchaefer936 ай бұрын
@@Sigma.6 The V8 in my 2018 M550 has been pretty reliable so far, i've owned it from 22k miles to 41k miles now. I've heard the B58 engine in the 40i series is VERY reliable. So much so Toyota even borrowed it for their Supra. My only concern would be if the straight-6 would have enough power to get out of its own way for the 8 series.
@pdalia5 жыл бұрын
Nice summer vid specially with the - looks like - canola fields background . Nice piece of kit but , everything which is nearby 911 territory turns into 911, like the matrix agent’s smith. Well done !
@davidmitchell56385 жыл бұрын
It just looks perfect! Plus it sounds way better than M8.
@LaudaMaestro5 жыл бұрын
B.M.W are on it lately and so is CarFection and Henry. You lot are the best in the business, hands down. Change nothing.
@gregmayled5 жыл бұрын
Shareef Alsayed BMW certainly aren’t, but Catchpole and Carfection sure are!
@rustypart86765 жыл бұрын
When having a convertible the rule of thumb is roof up to go somewhere and roof down to come home This get rids of bad hair days and work etc etc but doesn’t matter on the way back home All good things
@inspirice98445 жыл бұрын
This is the smartest thing I've heard today
@edbull575 жыл бұрын
Check out the grille opening as the roof opens at 3.11 - cool, but im not sure why its cool!
@simonknight7763 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video as always.
@KPCOD2Gaming4 жыл бұрын
Car and place combination is great
@tarik83953 жыл бұрын
this car is just insane... i have one as a daily in germany, drive one and you will love it
@Djredbullka4 жыл бұрын
3:23 the hood is not closed properly!!!!! It's hard to click the 8 series... Only one side grabbed the hood.
@danielwillems37955 жыл бұрын
One of my favourite cars of the last few years, quite weird tho. Don't know why it is so
@missa19694 жыл бұрын
It appears weird old Pontiac to me and I hope they pull out of this phase.
@robb55165 жыл бұрын
Great review, except the closing. I’m on my third one of these... soon to be fourth, all as a daily driver. 2012, 2013 (engine upgrade), 2015 (facelift and digital dashboard) 650i and 2020 rebadged to 850. All with XDrive Turbo V8 and convertible. Great year round in snow, desert heat and rain. Flawless build quality and performance.
@hafizhmufid47683 жыл бұрын
do you own F 6 Series? I like it but I can't afford it now. Can you tell your experience? For example, how it is compared with say E63 6 series? Is it reliable enough as a premium German car?
@robb55163 жыл бұрын
@@hafizhmufid4768 yes it’s reliable daily driver. Never had a problem with any of them. But it’s all about how you drive them. If you beat on any car it’s going to break. Drive it normally and have BMW do all recommended service and it’s fine. But don’t buy pre-2013 4.4 liter v8 - it burns oil and turbos overheat. 2013 and later are great.
@hafizhmufid47683 жыл бұрын
@@robb5516 thanks for the feedback, man. Currently I have no kind of intention to drive fast, I just like a comfortable car that looks great, handle great, feels great, and for many years to come it's still a great car. In my country right now, there's a dealership selling a used BMW M6 E24 and 560SEC (I guess), man, I want it so bad lol. Yeah, anyway thanks a lot, man. Hope you enjoy your cars :)
@hafizhmufid47683 жыл бұрын
@@robb5516 anyway, how's your 8 series? :3
@robb55163 жыл бұрын
@@hafizhmufid4768 didn’t get that yet.
@potedude5 жыл бұрын
0:34 absolutely gorgeous!
@sadsismint5 жыл бұрын
I totally agree that the pricing of this car is just way out of bounds. It would have to be seriously luxurious and capable to warrant that price over a model lower down BMW's range. That's before looking at other cars/brands, and I just dont think it offers enough for that price. You're pushing R8 and Aston Martin prices for that sort of money.... It should be between 70-90k.
@rerikm5 жыл бұрын
wait for few months and it will get to that price range . lol
@LivingLifeSlower5 жыл бұрын
We had around 9 weeks of Summer last year.
@tiernankeane56435 жыл бұрын
This car is majesty.
@CineSadler5 жыл бұрын
Do you have any tips for getting into filming car videos? I'm a TV Graduate and working in a kitroom, training to be a camera op. It's always been my dream to film cars, but I have no idea how the industry works or how I could get started in it. Any advice would be hugely helpful!
@chrisogrady285 жыл бұрын
Disappointed to see the roof doesn’t have the buttresses and vertical glass retractable window of the 6er convertible. I’m always annoyed at the jokey notion that in the UK convertibles are just for the 1 sunny day a year, firstly we have lots of sunny days, actual summer is often way too damn hot and relentless, we have very days days of the year where you can’t have the roof down at some point with overall mild climate. You don’t need blazing sunshine to put the roof down you just need anything other than super heavy rainfall. In fact the most fun you can have is often when it’s cold, having the roof down and heated seats on while blasting through a white Peak District at 60mph is a magical experience. My default state is roof down, only to occasionally put the roof up when needed.
@HenryCatchpole5 жыл бұрын
I was only joking! Given that I once drove a Caterham Seven roofless for six months through a UK winter I'm in complete agreement with you that you don't need sunshine to enjoy open-top motoring. And yes, the buttresses on the six were nice.
@chrisogrady285 жыл бұрын
Henry Catchpole I imagined you’d agree, it’s just a general thing people go on about usually as a way to justify why convertibles are silly. I’d love dealing with a caterham in bad conditions, the inappropriateness sounds fun!
@chrisogrady285 жыл бұрын
Henry Catchpole also, nice cover photo, relevant
@cody344295 жыл бұрын
Drive one and YOU WILL BUY ONE So good!
@freegw13 жыл бұрын
I’ve ordered a 2022 BMW M850 I . My dealer doesn’t have the allocation for my build. I’m a little disappointed that I don’t know when it will be built and delivered.
@stelittler5 жыл бұрын
Longer videos please!
@dmax14795 жыл бұрын
Brits buy convertibles for the summer. Aussies buy them for the winter
@ToastbrotRaver5 жыл бұрын
but how do aussies not fall out of the seat?
@dmax14795 жыл бұрын
@snk_blk, aussies actually invented the seatbelt to not fall out.
@GadgetyMV5 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a real GT 2+2 convertible comparison test. Drive across Europe with what you deem to be the competition in the approximate price bracket.
@gregmayled5 жыл бұрын
Maserati GranCabrio any day of the week over this!
@thamimaluki75865 жыл бұрын
Maserati cabriolet is so dated, but still lovey, I guess.
@gabrielsong75515 жыл бұрын
It almost looks like the hood is only latched on one side for the rolling exterior shots. Compare the area just above each headlight on either side...
@toysandgameswithesmeeandis40965 жыл бұрын
Carfection new video.... world on pause...
@kurtkaster56663 жыл бұрын
I wasn't sure BMW was going to be able to improve on the looks of the 6 series. Parts of it are perfect. This car is amazingly beautiful. How can they possibly improve this? And I find it strange that car journalists keep saying they can't figure it out. It's too big for a sports car, too nimble to be a GT. It's a big beautiful, extremely fast luxury convertible with enough room in the back for your dogs bed. What else does it need to be?
@dj12112 жыл бұрын
I had a Saab 95 convertible; I think this one will be my next purchase.
@johncerpa37825 жыл бұрын
Great vid
@lavrentievv5 жыл бұрын
I prefer the previous generation 6 series: M6 v10 Lighter, looks better. As much as I love turbo V8s
@19chucki745 жыл бұрын
I wholeheartedly agree. The previous generation 6 series was the best. Hardtop, droptop, or the Gran Coupe, it was fabulous. I'd love to have one.
@brodyrufus74285 жыл бұрын
Clearly it is the usability(or not) of rear seat space that will sell(or not) this vehicle. Can the inlaws, or a couple of guests; enjoy, or must they have to endure; a half hour to 45 minutes back there?
@xicofaria5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, or being able to recline the seat and take a nap. Couldn't do that in a Merc.
@robb55165 жыл бұрын
Great review, except the closing. I’m on my third one of these... soon to be fourth, all as a daily driver. 2012, 2013 (engine upgrade), 2015 (facelift and digital dashboard) 650i and 2020 rebadged to 850. All with XDrive Turbo V8 and convertible. Great year round in snow, desert heat and rain. Flawless build quality and performance. And a bargain vs S Class convertible.
@Collioure2325 жыл бұрын
I’ve owned quite a few different BMW’s and Porsche’s so I have no dogs in this race, but if anyone wants to buy this over a 911 gts convertible, then you’re mad. It will depreciate far too quickly and that interior is not what you expect when you pay 100k plus for a car.
@mrchallenger76165 жыл бұрын
Stop nipp picking about the interior, you can have that in any colour you want ! The BMW 8 series is the best looking car in it’s class both inside out !
@followthegrow1085 жыл бұрын
S65 AMG has it beat by a long shot. Who lied to you
@dampaul135 жыл бұрын
How can you call it nitpicking when it's his opinion, especially given that Catchpole has spent time each of the cars he mentioned? His job is to convey his opinions, including what he thinks of this car compared to others. Just because of what he says doesn't align with what you believe, don't mean he's nitpicking or wrong. How much time have you spent in all of these cars? Pretty sure he didn't mention anything about the colour of the interior either.
@mrchallenger76165 жыл бұрын
Follow The Grow The 8 series does not use 12 cylinder engines anymore, so less fuel and more fun ! As for performance, wait until the M8 comes out ! That car will be both lighter and faster than that big heavy monster from MERCEDES BENZ !
@mrchallenger76165 жыл бұрын
I'm not arrogant, I'm just better than you. He said the interior was boaring or bland, but that’s an option thing because the one he drove had all black interior ! You can spec it as you wish making it much more exiting ! And for the record i have spent alot of time in the all new M850i xdrive coupe allready ! However not so much the other brands and with good reason ... i don’t have to !😁
@dampaul135 жыл бұрын
@@mrchallenger7616 Can you let me know with a timestamp where Catchpole said, "the interior was boaring or bland [sic]?" The interior colour doesn't equate to layout, practicality, tech, value or how it compares to other cars. I think someone who has Catchpole's experience wouldn't dismiss the interior of a car just based on the colour spec. "However not so much the other brands and with good reason..." BMW fanboy admitting that he doesn't have the requisite knowledge to make an educated comparison on cars, whereas Catchpole has driven all the mentioned cars. Follow The Grow didn't mention anything about the engine, just that he thinks the S65 is a better all-around car. What does the M8 have to do with comparing the M850i to the S65? I actually think the M850i convertible is a great looking car.
@deanpriest30765 жыл бұрын
Why does the grill open when the roof does at 3:10 ?
@Andy-zy6yk5 жыл бұрын
Thought the same. I think it’s been speeded up slightly and light moves across it. But hard to tell.
@Naefukabootio5 жыл бұрын
Interesting review. Doesn't seem as special as the old shark nose 850i, especially with it's big ol' V12. I need to get my hands on one of those one day.
@janclaude24945 жыл бұрын
Gordybhoy be fast, they go up in value crazy
@GuysThatDrive5 жыл бұрын
It sounds like they’ve managed to make the same mistake as they made with the old 8. Place it in a segment with tough competition and give it no weapons.
@paulelverstone86775 жыл бұрын
BMW's - and most particularly recent BMW's - have always left me a bit cold. I get that they are hugely capable but so are a lot of other alternatives and they would have heaps of soul for the expense, perhaps, of a couple of tenths here and there. They're great cars - I just don't 'desire' one...
@auyongcwify5 жыл бұрын
Hey It's Gav from The Slow Mo Guys!
@SnakeyUk085 жыл бұрын
Lol 5:46 Henrys 80s power ballad hair :)
@mondachewon28735 жыл бұрын
Good reviewer. Doesn’t pretend or act like clarkson just because he’s reviewing a car unlike the rest
5 жыл бұрын
Move to Orlando Florida ... use it every day!
5 жыл бұрын
@R A I agree, I moved to Orlando three years ago from Miami! I needed a break from South Beach..lol
@jep19125 жыл бұрын
The 8 Series has always been a bit like the outsider trying to infiltrate an already perfectly operational club. Is it needed, given the current range? No, no it isn't and BMW have made it very obvious that the 8 is a total after-thought within the range. The market is not there. They should simply cut it now once the statutory initial production run is complete. Fabulous film as always though and Henry continues his wonderful standard.
@PedroDelgado7245 жыл бұрын
This car is amazing
@kanguruster5 жыл бұрын
"Feels like a bit of a throwback." Should sell well in the USA, then.
@thatotau74784 жыл бұрын
Love convertibles, I was in love with the car, everything simple, perfect for someone like me. But after hearing the price...nah. Disappointing pricing.
@ivalinapasse24694 жыл бұрын
Its Nice!!!
@gjssjg5 жыл бұрын
Does the video cut out early?
@jamiewilkinsracing5 жыл бұрын
As much as I enjoy a convertible, I'd love to see BMW make an 8-series shooting brake in the style of the beautiful and much missed Mercedes CLS or fantastic Porsche Sport Turismo. But £107k is nuts. It looks ordinary, inside and out.
@5000RR Жыл бұрын
I rented this exact car and its so quick0-80mph,quicker than e64 m6 i owned that would need to revv to at least 5k to pull
@santana95375 жыл бұрын
Glorious
@sushil7795 жыл бұрын
Please guys a Koenigsegg regera carfection style in depth review .. another car guy from India ❤️
@GY99445 жыл бұрын
I agree on pricing. I wouldn’t wanna see this car falling victim to the pricing policy of BMW.It’s a great car,but 911 for the same money is a big deal.
@AldiLover895 жыл бұрын
doesn't it better compare to the merc amg s63 convertible rather than a 911, grancabrio, etc?
@JabbaFanzz5 жыл бұрын
definitely not for the price :)
@abhishetty26375 жыл бұрын
the s63 is even more expensive but it looks the part for the people who buy it, this looks bland for what it should be
@AldiLover895 жыл бұрын
@@abhishetty2637 yea the interior of the amg is truly next level. even the non-amg version of the s coupe/convertible in a premium spec is way better! but I guess price wise they don't compare. It's not that big of a difference though.
@heavygustav5 жыл бұрын
Is it a hardtop convertible
@hoen20095 жыл бұрын
I get what you mean, it looks nice and all but it just looks a bit boring on they interior. Most open roof cars have a very fresh interior, and this looks like an interior you find on any other bmw. But it still a great car nonetheless.
@hoen20095 жыл бұрын
@R A I don't know in my opinion audi makes the best quality and looking interior in the car industry. Mercedes interior is fine except for the 2 big screen they just threw in there. And i didn't say bmw interior is bad, its mostly that i think an open top vehicle should have a more lively interior. Same happens with audi and mercedes, but could also be because this M8 had black interior in this vid. And if you buy an Convertible you should never ever buy black interior or you should get shot.
@choklat855 жыл бұрын
Wow, it looks so much better in black. That orange that they had all the press cars in was terrible.
@yass1235 жыл бұрын
Reupload?
@stevenagy885 жыл бұрын
This car is competent but not desirable, as is most of the current BMW range.
@roni145184 жыл бұрын
Problem is the depreciation, after a year the car loses almost £ 50,000 to £ 60,000
@levisanderson69515 жыл бұрын
I think bmw should have targeted the 8 Series as more of a sports GT, say more AMG GT or 911 than a softer GT like the S Class Coupe/Convertible. The 8 is still an excellent car, but at £107,000+ options, I think I’d find myself in a Porsche or Mercedes dealer instead.
@GarageSupra5 жыл бұрын
Those headlights seem like they were straight copied form an 2015 FGX XR8
@B3ansGuy5 жыл бұрын
The interior is definitely a let down, especially after the glory that the old 6 series interior was/still is. Don't really know or see what they've changed about besides the name to justify the extra £25k it costs over the old 650i cabrio. For the money I'd definitely much rather have a 992 4S cabrio instead. May not be as comfortable in a GT sense but it would be much more fun to drive and has 2 equally useless rear seats
@joebloggs41915 жыл бұрын
130K for this or 130K on a slightly used Bentley Conti GT or a Ferrari or a Porsche? mmmmm
@followthegrow1085 жыл бұрын
Right
@LivingLifeSlower5 жыл бұрын
Ir £130 for a 2 bedroom house. Where do you stop with this conversation.
@adilmalik34585 жыл бұрын
@@LivingLifeSlower 3-4 bedroom house where I live. Lol
@joebloggs41915 жыл бұрын
@@LivingLifeSlower We're not discussing houses here now are we, we are talking about cars.
@WeAreWatchingU5 жыл бұрын
@@adilmalik3458 Where do you guys live?? In London that will get you a car parking space or maybe a house with no roof.
@davidgeorge266624 күн бұрын
Missing the entire point of this Touring GT. You assume the buying public are looking to buy new.....dumb move. 2020 & 2021 840i M sport convertibles are selling for under $50k USD +/- mileage and the B58 can produce 375-400 hp w/a remap. Carbon core, bullet proof B58, elegant interior, imposing size, quiet interior coupe or convertible. I could go on, you don't know where this fits.... it will fit in my garage.
@19chucki745 жыл бұрын
Is BMW going soft, or are they afraid of putting in things that make it truly worth the money? As much as I like the droptop, the interior looks pretty sparse, considering someone who would pay well over 100K for it. Just my opinion but with reservations.
@jonckheeremaite51715 жыл бұрын
850i has no sense whatsoever , go for the 840d or wait for the m8 competition...
@Lambullghini5 жыл бұрын
M8 has no sense since there Is the M850i since 94% Of the M8 Comp owners won't ever take it to the track
@campkira5 жыл бұрын
D used more fuel than normal i...
@Emilioh8885 жыл бұрын
Narrating volume is too low. Please raise volume next time. Thank you
@TuddecBMW5 жыл бұрын
I sure am more than 2% stiffer from looking at it ;)
@jcpaintingdesign5 жыл бұрын
I agree, BMW interiors are losing soo much ground for Mercedes... look to simple and cheap and all the same. Mercedes interiors you feel luxury and special
@joebloggs41915 жыл бұрын
And yet the BMW's have better quality interior then the Mercedes, fur coats and no knickers so to speak.
@VSS15 жыл бұрын
Mercedes interiors are flash, if you like that sort of thing you should get one.
@ZanarGaming5 жыл бұрын
The claimed 0-100kmh stats are bs on this car i think. If it was 3.9 seconds it would be faster than BMW M6. I seen videos of the M850i getting smoked by literally every car it was drag racing against
@devonmacdonald44395 жыл бұрын
it is 3.9seconds to 100km and go do your research before you say it is bs and don't know what videos you watch were the M850i gets smoked
@shadowraith15 жыл бұрын
Guess Europe has a vast collection of wealthy clientele.
@BFCZ8NAP5 жыл бұрын
cant wait to buy this car in 4 years when its 30k
@yeungeddie5 жыл бұрын
Fix the voiceover audio
@ahemgee95425 жыл бұрын
It sounds pretty bland to me for a V8. BMWs recent ones all sound ve to synthesied, compared to a V8 S560 for example, and obviously the S63.
@yapyap5445 жыл бұрын
Akash S thank those damn turbochargers
@ahemgee95425 жыл бұрын
@@yapyap544 yeah but listen to all the bi turbo AMG engines, from the 43's V6 to the 4.0 V8 M177. They all sound sick . M division on the other hand, need artificial speaker noise!
@abc20002koonrsr5 жыл бұрын
If it looked more like the original 8 series it would have been special and more liked , this car looks too much like a 3 series or x2 , not bespoke enough . Shame because mechanicaly i think its close to best in class. A missed opportunity by bmw current designers again . Going by recent form like the new 1 series we will have to go through more pain before there is gain .
@duvictzy.86802 жыл бұрын
4:24
@gibshall20075 жыл бұрын
Im cool w just a convertible s550
@JacesOwnWorld5 жыл бұрын
This is a beautiful car, but I would def take the Mercedes AMG GT over this. This 8 series isn’t even an //M car, and it’s in the price range of performance AMG flagship cars. 🤔
@MegaGuy20105 жыл бұрын
I think I'd prefer a m5 comp
@FinnishCarGuys5 жыл бұрын
Is it just me, or does the exhaust noise sound a little... I don't know... Fake, I suppose?
@Pandamasque5 жыл бұрын
Now when you want to spend Bentley or Aston Martin money on something a lot duller and a bit pointless, you don't have to get what's become of the Mercedes SL.
@JacesOwnWorld5 жыл бұрын
Who would tune this car right after they bought it? #nowarranty
@gregmayled5 жыл бұрын
Nice car, but terrible value for money. And the depreciation will be HUGE